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[Q] Advice on my Nook's current softwares/settings

Looking for some advice as I am still pretty noob-ish. I apologize in advance if this thread is out-of-bounds in any way; every search for answers that I've conducted always seem to beat-around my questions. Any advice will be thanked ASAP, even if you can shoot me a url to the advice I need that would be awesome. If it appears that I'm on top of things that would be great to know as well. Thanks in advance!
I'm running CM7.1.0 Encore Signed emmc with Tiamat v4.1.0 kernel; using Ram Manager Pro for optimization in lieu of task killers, Nook Tweaks for CPU stepping and voltage management, "Antivirus Free" for virus protection, "Battery Calibration" to monitor/obtain max charge (~4200 mV), and "Set DNS" for faster web-based loading. I've also disabled Android Cell-Standby Services through ADB and removed useless apps such as camera and voice apps using Root Explorer. My biggest questions are as follows:
1. Am I running the best kernel for speed and battery saving?
2. What are good voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
3. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
4. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
5. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
I keep telling myself that I'm probably good to go, but I want to be certain that I've been as thorough as I can be. If anyone does something differently with great results please feel free to advise! As I said before, any advice or even just urls that help with my questions will be thanked. Can't wait to discuss this more!

vessamj said:
Looking for some advice as I am still pretty noob-ish. I apologize in advance if this thread is out-of-bounds in any way; every search for answers that I've conducted always seem to beat-around my questions. Any advice will be thanked ASAP, even if you can shoot me a url to the advice I need that would be awesome. If it appears that I'm on top of things that would be great to know as well. Thanks in advance!
I'm running CM7.1.0 Encore Signed emmc with Tiamat v4.1.0 kernel; using Ram Manager Pro for optimization in lieu of task killers, Nook Tweaks for CPU stepping and voltage management, "Antivirus Free" for virus protection, "Battery Calibration" to monitor/obtain max charge (~4200 mV), and "Set DNS" for faster web-based loading. I've also disabled Android Cell-Standby Services through ADB and removed useless apps such as camera and voice apps using Root Explorer. My biggest questions are as follows:
1. Am I running the best kernel for speed and battery saving?
2. What are good voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
3. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
4. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
5. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
I keep telling myself that I'm probably good to go, but I want to be certain that I've been as thorough as I can be. If anyone does something differently with great results please feel free to advise! As I said before, any advice or even just urls that help with my questions will be thanked. Can't wait to discuss this more!
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Sounds like a good setup. You may experience market issues by removing cell service and camera, some apps may not show up. My question is how did you get tiamat's kernel to run on the nook?

bdcrim said:
Sounds like a good setup. You may experience market issues by removing cell service and camera, some apps may not show up. My question is how did you get tiamat's kernel to run on the nook?
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I'd like to know that as well......

I used Tiamat's latest Evo NON SBC Kernel ( http://tiamat-dev.com/tiamat_evo/ ). After downloading I installed the zip through Clockwork (after wiping both caches) in boot-recovery and I'm guessing it's working fine... what issues have there been with Tiamat's before?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color

vessamj said:
I used Tiamat's latest Evo NON SBC Kernel ( http://tiamat-dev.com/tiamat_evo/ ). After downloading I installed the zip through Clockwork (after wiping both caches) in boot-recovery and I'm guessing it's working fine... what issues have there been with Tiamat's before?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
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No issues reported, because the only kernels around this forum are Barnes and Noble source. Let us know how the battery life is. Not to question your integrity, but did it stick, showed up in settings, about tablet?

That's a great point. It didn't stick. All seemed well when I installed it but I guess the long pause on the next reboot was from the system restoring the last kernel I had. After looking around some more I came to realize that in order to have control of CPU stepping with Nook Tweaks you must have Dalingrin's 2.6.29 OC Kernel 09/01/11 (http://coachz.inetpro.org/~dalingrin/nook/kernels/090111/) or later. So that's fixed.
Meanwhile my battery is only good enough that I have to charge it at the end of every day under normal use, sometimes earlier.
After that, my list of questions fall to:
1. What are good Nook Tweaks voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
2. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
3. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
4. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color

vessamj said:
That's a great point. It didn't stick. All seemed well when I installed it but I guess the long pause on the next reboot was from the system restoring the last kernel I had. After looking around some more I came to realize that in order to have control of CPU stepping with Nook Tweaks you must have Dalingrin's 2.6.29 OC Kernel 09/01/11 (http://coachz.inetpro.org/~dalingrin/nook/kernels/090111/) or later. So that's fixed.
Meanwhile my battery is only good enough that I have to charge it at the end of every day under normal use, sometimes earlier.
After that, my list of questions fall to:
1. What are good Nook Tweaks voltage settings for better battery conservation (currently on default voltage settings)?
2. Is there really a need for a virus protection, and if so is there something better than what I have?
3. Is there any settings that I should know about for "Set DNS" (didn't change settings, just installed and activated it)?
4. Are there any other technical ways to adjust battery consumption (have to charge every night under normal use)?
-XDA Premium on CM7 Nook Color
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Sounds like your battery drains about normal. I lose around 12 to 15% per hour, always have. I have tweaked the voltage some, but did not see much of a result. There is is no need for virus protection that I am aware of. I have not seen a single thread on that issue (I have been around this forum for a year)
I can't advise on any DNS settings. You may want to play with the voltage some and see if that makes any difference on battery life. By the way, there is an updated kernel in the development forum in MiRaGe's kang build. Look for it in the OP. Also his build, for me, is the fastest and most responsive that I have used. Good luck.

bdcrim said:
Sounds like your battery drains about normal. I lose around 12 to 15% per hour, always have. I have tweaked the voltage some, but did not see much of a result. There is is no need for virus protection that I am aware of. I have not seen a single thread on that issue (I have been around this forum for a year)
I can't advise on any DNS settings. You may want to play with the voltage some and see if that makes any difference on battery life. By the way, there is an updated kernel in the development forum in MiRaGe's kang build. Look for it in the OP. Also his build, for me, is the fastest and most responsive that I have used. Good luck.
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Thanks for the advice... I'll look up the kernel and see how it goes.

1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.

selection16 said:
1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.
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Thanks! I'm definitely gonna purchase Tasker now, as I've been looking at it for a while... and I'll check out the voltage and the security links for sure.

selection16 said:
1) There's some voltage stuff listed here
2) I don't use any, it seems to me like most malware is centred around phones anyway. I just use Droidwall to block internet access for anything shady-lookin'. LBE lets you block more permissions, or CM7 will too, but with no SIM, no mobile data, no GPS, there is just not as much to be concerned about on the nook . Basically, being aware of what Permissions are, and checking them, should keep you safer than relying on a faceless, profit-motivated company.
www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/mobile_security_dust_up/
4) If you're interested, Tasker can be used to under/overclock any app. So, your flashy game will run at 1200, your simple text reader at 800, and so on.
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Would you be willing to share a profile for 4) as this is exactly what i am trying to do with no luck thus far. Thank you.

gsutton said:
Would you be willing to share a profile for 4) as this is exactly what i am trying to do with no luck thus far. Thank you.
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This is where I got the info;
http://tasker.wikidot.com/cpu-profiles-governor-frequency-control

First-Timer Rooting NST. Latest Status?

I've rooted my phones but haven't rooted my NST yet.
I'm interested in doing it mainly to get access to Dropbox and one of the Dropbox apps that let's you get feeds put onto your NST daily (I want to get my local paper there--which is available). I already have the paper portion working locally.
I have a few concerns:
1. What's the absolute latest/best way to root the NST? I'm on 1.1.
2. Will rooting suddenly drive my battery life down while the NST is sitting idle? I can go a week without touching it. I don't want to have to charge it every time I touch it.
3. Are the latest approaches problematic? I'm seeing threads about people having some pretty serious issues. Should I just wait at this point assuming there's serious thought to a near-bulletproof approach right around the corner?

All roots are pretty stable, there have been some methods that have had issues. TouchNooter for example had a major issue just yesterday because of a space in an Apps name. But it's been resolved and is stable.
Battery Life won't be affected so much depending on your wifi settings, if you keep wifi off you won't notice the difference between root and non-root. If you keep your wifi on though you may find yourself needing to recharge more often if you have your nook doing data updates too often.
Each version has it's advantages and disadvantages:
MinimalNooter - If you're willing to use CWM Minimal Nooter is available and is easily one of the most customizable of all the Nooters with different packages ranging from the most basic of roots "Minimal" to a full root package with Gapps XorZone's Mods etc.
Advantages
Clear Instructions, lots of information, can be a little confusing/overwhelming.
More Customizable with multiple packages
Lowest chance of FS corruption due to CWM use
No One Day Market Wait
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Disadvantages
More steps to get to root through using CWM (Not just pop it in wait and done)
TouchNooter - TouchNooter was the original Nooter for Nook Simple Touch using the original Methods used on it's sibling the Nook Color. It installs a few mods and the basics to make it as customizable as a person needs you can drop apps in or remove them without having any real technical know how.
Advantages
Customizable with most extra apps in /data/app
Lower chance of FS corruption due to new TouchNooter methods
No extra Apps to fix Market Search
Clear Instructions that go step by step through each requirement
Disadvantages
One Day Wait to get Market Working

I would use TorimuNooter, because theCPU underclocking saves the most battery power.

I'd be very curious to know why Gabrial originally included TorimuNooter but then edited his post to remove mention of it.

[NST]MinimalTouch 1.1beta5 (+Index to manual rooting)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346748
My favorite so far, easy install as long as you can follow directions.
Market works immediately, lightweight - only includes apps necessary for functionality and has had no problems since installing a few weeks ago.
Still waiting for XorZones NST launcher for my nook to be complete

Agrajag27 said:
I'd be very curious to know why Gabrial originally included TorimuNooter but then edited his post to remove mention of it.
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After the update to 0.5 in which TorimuNooter is no longer really a derivative of TouchNooter, not even bothering to change bootloader images or disk names or a number of other things unique to TouchNooter, I feel that it no longer deserves to be recognized as it's own "Nooter"

GabrialDestruir said:
After the update to 0.5 in which TorimuNooter is no longer really a derivative of TouchNooter, not even bothering to change bootloader images or disk names or a number of other things unique to TouchNooter, I feel that it no longer deserves to be recognized as it's own "Nooter"
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He's gonna freak about that...
*hides*

So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?

Agrajag27 said:
So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?
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No.
Rooting just makes you gain root access, so you can modify your device.
It wont eat any battery just for rooting, but depends on what you do with your device, it will consume more or less battery.
On idle, except if some app is preventing your device to go to sleep, it should be the same.
If you read a lot of pdfs, play games, use web browsers, etc, the cpu will stay much more time active and there will be many more screen refreshes than when reading books.
Your battery will last less when doing more intensive tasks, the same when reading books, and the same when idle.
Just dont bloat it with trilions of apps you wont use, keep it minimal as more apps running, normally means more problems with battery.
If you wanted to lessen the cpu states, you could try SetCpu or follow this manual tuto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20069231&postcount=4 (I preffer this type of tricks, instead of installing extra apps).
Don't forget to never leave the wifi on for long periods of time, as it dosn't let the device go to sleep.

Agrajag27 said:
So do I take it that the "simple" act of rooting will drive my battery life down, possibly significantly?
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No.
If you have too many applications running the background such as email and twitter and weather updates and etc. Your battery life will be significantly less than if you have just email running. Your battery life is directly affected by what you put on your device and by which settings you use.
My nook is rooted and without underclocking my battery life hasn't changed that much, if I leave wifi off I can go weeks before I ever need to recharge, if I leave Wifi on I can go maybe a few days to a week. Which isn't abnormal or extreme battery difference from root to non-rooted.
It's very much like your android phone, when you rooted it the battery life didn't actually change, if you install new roms, or different kernels you risk a difference between non-root and root. However the only real difference between root and non root on this device is your ability to install apps on the device and do things that require root such as directly modify the filesystem, or use root ADB.
If you don't overload your device with bloat and lots of apps that want to run in the background you won't notice a difference. If you decide to bloat your device up with a bunch of excess apps that like to stick around in the background you risk the chance your battery life will suffer.
Googie2149 said:
He's gonna freak about that...
*hides*
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I'm a dev, I don't care if he freaks, it's my honest opinion. To me there's a fine line between derivatives and non derivatives, if he can't even bother to change the things that mark the image he used as TouchNooter than to me that is theft and nothing else, regardless of the changes or additions he makes to it.

I had read elsewhere that an app or two that got installed as a by-product of the rooting process was taking up CPU that wasn't there prior.
That was the concern. For me I'd think about adding passive e-mail support, another keyboard, possibly another reading app and would be likely to read more PDF's though now it appears I can get my newspaper (which is the primary goal) in epub format daily.
On WiFi, I haven't touched the default other than setting up access and it's been a good three weeks since I last charged and just re-charged it at 10%. I guess I could do better than that turning that off.

GabrialDestruir said:
I'm a dev, I don't care if he freaks, it's my honest opinion. To me there's a fine line between derivatives and non derivatives, if he can't even bother to change the things that mark the image he used as TouchNooter than to me that is theft and nothing else, regardless of the changes or additions he makes to it.
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I understand that entirely, but Torimu will still be upset about it. He is kind of going around advertising his as the best nooter, and having it "insulted" (in his mind) will probably set him off. You know what, I should probably just leave this whole thing alone... :/

Agrajag27 said:
I had read elsewhere that an app or two that got installed as a by-product of the rooting process was taking up CPU that wasn't there prior.
That was the concern. For me I'd think about adding passive e-mail support, another keyboard, possibly another reading app and would be likely to read more PDF's though now it appears I can get my newspaper (which is the primary goal) in epub format daily.
On WiFi, I haven't touched the default other than setting up access and it's been a good three weeks since I last charged and just re-charged it at 10%. I guess I could do better than that turning that off.
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Gapps does get added in with some other apps to make it more usable. Gmail runs in the background but with the right settings it isn't an issue. The launcher I believe could also run in the background with some settings (I believe there's an option in ADW so it doesn't close completely) but I pretty much find battery life between root and non root is pretty much negligible.

I forgot about the disk names...
But I will change that. I'm just trying to improve upon others work.
Thanks for your opinion Gabreil......
I'll try to stop advertising.

Torimu.Joji said:
I forgot about the disk names...
But I will change that. I'm just trying to improve upon others work.
Thanks for your opinion Gabreil......
I'll try to stop advertising.
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It's more than just disk names there were other changes I made, big changes that would be rather noticeable if you bothered to test your work. Like for example the start up image which was left completely unchanged in both your most recent updates.

@Gabrial and the other nooters
While you're on the subject of images I just want to take the opportunity to emphasize the importance of you guys keeping your images within the size of the original NST boot partition.
Reason is, as said before, people regularly do the mistake of writing your image directly to the NST instead of writing it to the SD card.
Just this week I've had four cases where people have written "garbage" data outside the boundaries of the boot partition, and as you (should) know, the next one is the tiny /rom partition with the really important stuff.
Thank you
-Roger

ros87 said:
@Gabrial and the other nooters
While you're on the subject of images I just want to take the opportunity to emphasize the importance of you guys keeping your images within the size of the original NST boot partition.
Reason is, as said before, people regularly do the mistake of writing your image directly to the NST instead of writing it to the SD card.
Just this week I've had four cases where people have written "garbage" data outside the boundaries of the boot partition, and as you (should) know, the next one is the tiny /rom partition with the really important stuff.
Thank you
-Roger
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I often keep this in mind. It's even addressed as one of my "Before you Begin" pieces. The problem is there's only so much you can do before it just falls to the user to pay attention and not screw up their device. When "You must have an external microSDCard reader or this will not work. Do NOT use the Nook Simple Touch." is apart of the "Before you Begin" and a user ignores that, then it's unfortunately their fault if or when they screw up their device by not following directions.
I've always limited my images to 128 because it's big enough for people to add what they want or to expand Nooter as needed. I'll actually be switching over to the CWM method which would be safer but you're stuck with the same issues with CWM that you will see with using TouchNooter's current image based method and that is people not following instructions and screwing up their devices.
While limiting images and such to 70MB (I think that's right) would be ideal the issue is the majority of that space is already filled, meaning you're very much limiting what you can do with an "automatic" method.
Mind you I've heard of methods like noogie which is the exact size if I remember for the boot partition completely destroy a device because someone wasn't following the proper directions. So the issue isn't the size of the image but how the user uses them.

GabrialDestruir said:
Mind you I've heard of methods like noogie which is the exact size if I remember for the boot partition completely destroy a device because someone wasn't following the proper directions. So the issue isn't the size of the image but how the user uses them.
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True, but my experience is, and I get around three to four cases every week, is that they write it to the root device which means that 76MB (or 155648 sectors to be exact) is ok.
Beyond that you go into the next partition and the data there is only a couple of hundred kilobytes.
So you see, just 300KB beyond the size of /boot is enough to completely brick a NST forever :/
Yes, there's a backup zip in p3 (factory) but it's usually fragmented and I have only once succeeded in recovering it..
Let me end with a 2012 version of a famous (mis)quote:
"155648 sectors ought to be enough for anybody"
-Roger

ros87 said:
Let me end with a 2012 version of a famous (mis)quote:
"155648 sectors ought to be enough for anybody"
-Roger
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I wish that were true, lol, but considering how much information we want to put on the device it's hard. Perhaps if CWM could grab zip files off of the internal media storage you could toss CWM on 155648 sectors then keep all update zips, etc on the internal storage partition

So i just squires an NST and already have a Fire and Sensation for most of my needs, i really only want to use this as a reader, but the restrictions blow. i really only care about fixing this partition silliness. Which is the best way for just getting that space available.

possible buyer, simple question!

i'm really interested in this e-reader.
i was about to seal the deal with a kindle touch but saw the android support for this e-reader, and me being the android dude i am (samsung galaxy s2) i HAD to give this a shot.
quite briefly: i have a lot of pdf's already, and NEED good pdf support, or at least a good way to convert them to a good readable format.
also, I know with android I can use Google docs, Gmail, etc. how is typing on this thing? I have a great ics multi touch keyboard, would it work on the rooted nook?
oh and how much does android effect on battery life?
is this is e-reader for me?

Out of the box it has pdf support but not necessarily the best support. Here is a review with a video showing stock and rooted nook abilities with pdfs.
http://www.the-ebook-reader.com/nook-pdf-review.html
once you have it rooted you have the market to test a lot of different pdf programs. Probably is going to depend on what your looking at. i personally convert all of my pdfs to epubs with calibre. Every so often one doesn't format right but the majority are readable. I've been happy with this reader. I have a 6in eclair eink tablet which is pretty awesome.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

thanks for the response, it seems a rooted nook touch will be able to do quite a lot, I updated the first post to reflect my typing and battery concerns.
Hercules was here

For typing, I use my Nook to take notes on during class. It took a little bit of getting used to, but it's not that bad.

darkness122 said:
[...] i was about to seal the deal with a kindle touch but saw the android support for this e-reader, and me being the android dude i am (samsung galaxy s2) i HAD to give this a shot.
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You will be able to do more than with a stock NOOK or Kindle, but don't expect too much. I've had mine rooted for about a month now, and have found that it offers a few more options that work very well as a reader with a few goodies added.
quite briefly: i have a lot of pdf's already, and NEED good pdf support, or at least a good way to convert them to a good readable format.
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I tried the readers, and they do work. I settled on Repligo. That said, these readers are definitely not designed for a device with an eInk screen and lacking multitouch. You can read a PDF, but there is a lot of flickering.
also, I know with android I can use Google docs, Gmail, etc. how is typing on this thing? I have a great ics multi touch keyboard, would it work on the rooted nook?
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Be aware that it runs Android 2.1, so many apps do not work. I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device. I found that Smart Keyboard Pro with a high-contrast display (black letters on white background) works with minimal flicker. Prediction does not work. Any keyboard animation generates a lot of flicker, which I don't like. Auto-prediction does not work correctly -- suggestions do not display -- so I've had to disable most of the automatic correction features. It does work well, though, once I get used to "typewriter" (all manual) mode.
oh and how much does android effect on battery life?
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That's up to you. With wifi off and allowed to sleep normally, it sips battery life. After extended testing, I find that it consumes something like 0.1% battery per hour. With wifi and screen on and in use, consumption goes to 4-8% per hour. If you load it up with widgets, background polling and the like, battery life will be very disappointing. Again, don't think of it as a feature-laden tablet. I've used Tasker to only enable wifi when a few specific apps are running, and to disable it when they exit, or the screen goes off. I'm good for at least several days, and I suspect a week or more before charging is required. It's hard to gauge, because every time I plug it in to USB to sideload content, it charges up so quickly.
is this is e-reader for me?
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No. It's MINE!

bobstro said:
I settled on Repligo. That said, these readers are definitely not designed for a device with an eInk screen and lacking multitouch. You can read a PDF, but there is a lot of flickering.
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There are eink-optimized pdf readers, like ---
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186949
--- that incorporates partial freshes, significantly reducing flickering. The URL has links for the freeware; there is also a version on the market that makes better of our hardware, for a very low price (no, I'm not the developer!)
Be aware that it runs Android 2.1, so many apps do not work. I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device. I found that Smart Keyboard Pro with a high-contrast display (black letters on white background) works with minimal flicker. Prediction does not work. Any keyboard animation generates a lot of flicker, which I don't like. Auto-prediction does not work correctly -- suggestions do not display -- so I've had to disable most of the automatic correction features.
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Just to clarify: Auto-prediction does work on some apps. In fact I wrote an app (for generic 2.1+ devices) that calls the most basic auto-complete macros and it works like a charm on NST, so there is likely to be an issue with how a specific app was implement.

bobstro said:
I'm using Maildroid for corporate Exchange, Google and IMAP email, and find it works very well. My favorite, Enhanced Email, will not run on this device.
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I just use the gmail app and it doesn't give me any problems, works the same as it does on my E4GT
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

in all honesty, i never planned on buying my books via kindle or b&n so it really came down to the hardware itself for me.
simply put, after much research, the two are basically identical hardware wise (no sound on the nook but whatever i dont need it) and the fact that I can further customize a bit with android just put the nook touch over for me.
im gonna do a 2-3 hour charge, then root this badboy right away. im assuming this is the latest n greatest way to root our ebook atm?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351719

darkness122 said:
im assuming this is the latest n greatest way to root our ebook atm?
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It's not, actually. The author of TouchNooter made a comparison of the different rooting methods here. Ignore the TorimuNooter in that list, as it doesn't exist anymore.

Nook Simple Touch Noob Question

Hi
I have a nook simple touch - 1.2.1 firmware not rooted yet, I only want to use it as an e-reader but the ghosting is awful compared to my wifes kindle of the same generation (non touch).
I've been trying to look around and find out what I can do, is there a way to force it to refresh every page, some searching seems to suggest the issue was better on older firmwares, why B&N didnt include an option like amazon to force refesh every page who knows (that's not enabled on my wifes kindle) - the Kindle is just much easier to read in direct bright sunlight but I'm sure theres some tweaking that can be done to improve it

I have to say I am surprised by your description of your NST. I've been paying close attention to mine today while reading and I may be losing my vision but I can't see the ghosting you are describing. I've always felt the native Reader and its default settings worked really well. In some other apps there may be issues with ghosting, but not in the reader.
I'm running FW 1.21 also and while I have rooted and altered my device a lot, to my knowledge I haven't done anything to the functioning of the Reader app. Are you sure you don't have some kind of hardware issue?

nmyshkin said:
I have to say I am surprised by your description of your NST. I've been paying close attention to mine today while reading and I may be losing my vision but I can't see the ghosting you are describing. I've always felt the native Reader and its default settings worked really well. In some other apps there may be issues with ghosting, but not in the reader.
I'm running FW 1.21 also and while I have rooted and altered my device a lot, to my knowledge I haven't done anything to the functioning of the Reader app. Are you sure you don't have some kind of hardware issue?
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It could be a hardware issue but it's well out of warranty, I do notice the ghosting on the kindle too so maybe im just susceptable to spotting it and having it irritate me, just wondered if there are any tweaks to control thow often it refreshes as its ok once it refreshes the screen

damianiw said:
It could be a hardware issue but it's well out of warranty, I do notice the ghosting on the kindle too so maybe im just susceptable to spotting it and having it irritate me, just wondered if there are any tweaks to control thow often it refreshes as its ok once it refreshes the screen
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OK, so look here at what Renate suggests.

nmyshkin said:
OK, so look here at what Renate suggests.
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Seemed to be very complex, so I went for root and under there is the option for how many pages before full refresh
also installed cool reader for good measure and very happy - problem solved

damianiw said:
Seemed to be very complex, so I went for root and under there is the option for how many pages before full refresh
also installed cool reader for good measure and very happy - problem solved
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Excellent! Your rooting method must be different from mine but now we're both happy

Good job, @nmyshkin!

Thanks everyone, my main concern was rooting would stop it behaving like an e reader but relaunch I a great launcher and the default options for home and library mean I have best of both and importantly control over the refresh as my nook does appear to ghost far more than a friends on comparison, for the £29 paid over a year ago the nook is awesome

Comparing my nook to a friends the contrast looks really different so maybe this unit wasnt calibrated right - i'm now looking for a contrast adjuster to see if that solves me needing to fully refresh the screen so much as that will be using more battery

NST Screen Saver Frequency Setting?

I've successfully rooter my Nook Simple Touch and explored all of its files and databases that I can find. But I cannot locate the setting to change that will update the frequency at which the screen saver changes images.
My goal is to have a folder of image files that change every 30 seconds or so. Unfortunately, the stock screen saver's change timer is much longer than that.
As a workaround, I set the screen saver activation time to 500 hours and installed Perfect Viewer to run its slideshow function, but this is less than ideal. I'd rather just do it the right way.
Does anyone know where this setting is located?
Thanks!

Reaperducer said:
I've successfully rooter my Nook Simple Touch and explored all of its files and databases that I can find. But I cannot locate the setting to change that will update the frequency at which the screen saver changes images.
My goal is to have a folder of image files that change every 30 seconds or so. Unfortunately, the stock screen saver's change timer is much longer than that.
As a workaround, I set the screen saver activation time to 500 hours and installed Perfect Viewer to run its slideshow function, but this is less than ideal. I'd rather just do it the right way.
Does anyone know where this setting is located?
Thanks!
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That would seem to be a poor decision as far as battery life is concerned. Are you sure you really want to do that?

nmyshkin said:
That would seem to be a poor decision as far as battery life is concerned. Are you sure you really want to do that?
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Battery life is not a concern in my application.

Reaperducer said:
Battery life is not a concern in my application.
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OK, so I have to admit I didn't even know this happened. It's been a long time since I used a folder of images for a screensaver. What I seem to recall from that time was the images changing each time the NST went to sleep, but not during sleep.
Let me take a look. I guess one possible approach would be to consult a logcat after an image change and see if there are clues there.

I've come up empty on a search through the various B&N app databases and settings files.
Just to see this actually happen, I changed my screensaver from a static book cover image to one of the packages of images I installed years back. That was nearly 24 hours ago and there is still no change, which is what my memory told me to expect. So without an automatic change, there is nothing to look at in the logcat.
Are you sure your images actually change by themselves during the standby/sleep process? I know they change when you wake up the device and then let it fall asleep again.
You've already tried the slideshow idea or I would suggest that, but did you know there is a built-in slideshow (probably associated with the demo mode)? I don't know what the parameters of that are or whether you could replace the images with your own without breaking it.
Maybe a better question to help me understand what you'd like to do is: will the NST be used for something other than the slideshow display (either running in the background or running on demand when the device is awakened)? If all you want is the slideshow then any number of apps (like the PerfectViewer you mention) would work. Maybe something simple if you just need the slideshow. But if you really are using the device for other things and just want the sleep screen to change periodically, that's either got to be supported in the settings in an accessible way (which I'm doubtful about) or it has to be a custom alteration of the OS.