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why? why did motorola use a proprietary charging cable? it would of been so nice to have a micro usb cable to charge the xoom. im very worried one day that needle proprietary cable going to break and it wont charge my xoom anymore.
it seems like motorola is a HUGE fan or proprietary cables, especially the v60 series flip phones.
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why? why did motorola use a proprietary charging cable? it would of been so nice to have a micro usb cable to charge the xoom. im very worried one day that needle proprietary cable going to break and it wont charge my xoom anymore.
it seems like motorola is a HUGE fan or proprietary cables, especially the v60 series flip phones.
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All the latest tablets have proprietary cables...
fondoo said:
why? why did motorola use a proprietary charging cable? it would of been so nice to have a micro usb cable to charge the xoom. im very worried one day that needle proprietary cable going to break and it wont charge my xoom anymore.
it seems like motorola is a HUGE fan or proprietary cables, especially the v60 series flip phones.
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Simple, many recent tablets use proprietary cables to allow higher current and faster charge times.
The average usb cable hooked up to your pc provides about 500mA
The proprietary cable for a modern tablet like the XOOM can deliver around
1.5A
With a micro USB cable it would take forever to charge the XOOM. Then people would be complaining about why the XOOM takes so incredibly long to charge, and bashing motorola for the problem. Instead Motorola chose to do it the intelligent way, by separating the charge function to a proprietary cable to allow very fast charging, and including the usb cable for data transfer.
When I see a proprietary cable I don't think - crap why do they do it this way. Instead I think wow great, that means this thing was designed for fast charges.
Digital Man said:
Simple, many recent tablets use proprietary cables to allow higher current and faster charge times.
The average usb cable hooked up to your pc provides about 500mA
The proprietary cable for a modern tablet like the XOOM can deliver around
1.5A
With a micro USB cable it would take forever to charge the XOOM. Then people would be complaining about why the XOOM takes so incredibly long to charge, and bashing motorola for the problem. Instead Motorola chose to do it the intelligent way, by separating the charge function to a proprietary cable to allow very fast charging, and including the usb cable for data transfer.
When I see a proprietary cable I don't think - crap why do they do it this way. Instead I think wow great, that means this thing was designed for fast charges.
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THANK YOU lol finally someone that understands.....
plus, the input voltage in to the tab is 12v, hard to get 12v from a 5v USB supply...
For a bit more info, I too wondered about USB charging. The limit seems to be when the Xoom is running, the current drain can be upwards of 400 mA so I could see a situation where a USB charger at 500 mA would overload if you did too much on the Xoom during charging. That would be good enough reason to avoid that design mess. "Do not use during charging" would not be sufficent protection. The Moto Mains Charger manages 1500 mA for a couple of hours which is wonderful. Now if only I could charge my Nexus S that quickly
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THANK YOU lol finally someone that understands.....
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right? about time
I am really glad that trickle charging is not possible with the Xoom, saves a lot of problems...I just wish they had used a different connector for the power. Something a bit more durable and commonly included in third party multichargers would have been nice...but one can't have everything.
I still support the seperate power cable choice for all kinds of reasons.
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Just amazes me that folks will complain about anything and everything. Good grief, it charges in no time and runs more than a day when it does. What more can you expect?
I like the idea of a separate charger, but the only thing I take issue with is the design of the charger it self. Luckily, I just set mine on the dock before bed. The dock doesn't use that flimsy pin, it uses the two gold plates at the bottom to charge.
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I like the idea of a separate charger, but the only thing I take issue with is the design of the charger it self. Luckily, I just set mine on the dock before bed. The dock doesn't use that flimsy pin, it uses the two gold plates at the bottom to charge.
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going to have to look into that dock cause i'm not to fond of the charger that it has. so the avg. use time is about a day, are you guys mod or heavy users(as you can tell i dont have mine yet ordered and waiting for it to show up)trying to get as much real world use info as i can
i love the proprietary cable. It is SOOO much faster. My Galaxy tab with a 4000 mAH battery took almost 4 hours to charge and i was lucky to get two days usage out of it (standby time and normal usage combined). My Xoom (no idea on mAH size) charges in 2 hours and i get 90 hours usage out of it (mainly standby but still a lot of screen on time, wiht a much larger and brighter screen to power). LOVE it.
Yeah I wouldn't worry about the Cable its seems durable, only thing I AM worried about was how you plug the wires all on the side of the device, I feel like there's abit of give on the wires when holding it sideways, I wish it was more like the iPad.
You know the first time I saw that the tablets used a seperate charging cable I was like, "why?" but then I stopped and think, there's no why a USB (let alone a micro-USB) can charge those suckers, so I'm personally glade that tablet makers did what they did and make it seperate.
I just wish they chose a 30-pin connector instead of this tiny one. The slightest mistake while it's charging (like say you trip over the cord), and there goes your xoom for repair/replacement.
Lets not rule out USB charging. Yes, I love going from 5% to 100% in about an hour. But I also have USB plugged in for hours on end when doing my thang. . That being said, we do not know for certain that USB charge is a hardware limitation. Yes, USB puts out 500mV. But I can tell the kernel to suck in whatever. If the hardware is capable, its doable.
I still think the option should have been given to us. Cuz many if not all of us have micro USB around. I for one only take a single micro USB in my pocket for my phone. So its would have Been nice to be able to charge both device with one charger. But I mean scull charge usually carry me all day. So I don't see it as a major problem right now.
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Lets not rule out USB charging. Yes, I love going from 5% to 100% in about an hour. But I also have USB plugged in for hours on end when doing my thang. . That being said, we do not know for certain that USB charge is a hardware limitation. Yes, USB puts out 500mV. But I can tell the kernel to suck in whatever. If the hardware is capable, its doable.
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Its actually 500mA not 500mV. Usb provides 5 volts at 500ma for usb 2.0 and that will be picked up to 900ma in usb 3.0. Even with this in mind it isn't the biggest problem with stoppinh usb charging in the xoom. The issue I believe is in the fact that the current charger is 12 volts and 1.5 amps. That's more than twice the volts at tripl the amperes.
Even beyond the amperage issue charging a battery that is set up to input from a 12 volt source with a 5 volts supply, even if it was possible with existing xoom hardware it would take forever!
I wish there was a way to have both options available for charging. Use the USB if you have no access to a AC adapter, albeit, a slower charge.
It seems that there's a false dichotomy here; the options aren't only trickle charge by usb and wall adapter with the proprietary connection. What about a wall charge via the usb port? I don't see why the usb port couldn't be used for the charge. I can trickle charge my n1 or I can plug it into an outlet, which charges the phone much faster. I'm sure the xoom could have been designed to suck in more power when conected to an outlet.
The only plus with the proprietary port is that we can charge and have the xoom connected to a computer or peripheral at the same time.
before signing up for another data line, was wondering if i can use a otg cable and stick a 3G usb stick to use data on the go
would this thing drain my battery too quick if it does work?
any experience and input are appreciated.
Might be better to get one of those mobile hotspot things where it has it's own battery...if you can. I would guess even if it can work, it would drain your battery very quickly.
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In theory it could but in practice it wouldn't be viable. Better off tethering if you can.
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thanks all, i tend to tether so much that i wind up with a dead battery on my phone when i am on the road
i'd suppose i can get another cheap 3G phone for tethering only thanks!
U can otg--- > USB cable--->phone.... I found my n7 will charge my thunderbolt for situations where I can't get to a car or ac charger. Haven't tested what a full charge would take timewise/toll-wise on n7 and I would assume your phone battery might keep draining even while leeching power from the n7 if you are tethering and using heavy bandwidth
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U can otg--- > USB cable--->phone.... I found my n7 will charge my thunderbolt for situations where I can't get to a car or ac charger. Haven't tested what a full charge would take timewise/toll-wise on n7 and I would assume your phone battery might keep draining even while leeching power from the n7 if you are tethering and using heavy bandwidth
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well.....wouldnt that drain your tablet then? lol, kinda defeating the purpose now
Yes troll it would drain your tablet but not as much as a 3g dongle through USB. Did you even read the thread? What do you think the "purpose" is? I didn't say its ideal I said for situations where your phone is about to die from tethering and you need a little charge. Just trying to help.
Since wii're throwing out ideas, I picked up a 5000mA battery charger for $25. It was on sell, so don't expect that price. My Nexus 7 doesn't accept the charger for some reason, but my phone would charge from it. So you can tether and always be able to charge your phone. The thing I have is about the size of a MiFi thingy. LoL!! I think they're going for about $60+ now. Since my E4GT has a 1800mA battery, I technically have 3 batteries with a remainder of 1400mA. That's practically 4 batteries. LoL!! =.P
I bought something "like" this. Looks very much alike except it wasn't from China and it had a 1A and 2.1A port. And I have no idea where "solar" is even coming from. The one I have has nothing "solar" about it. LoL!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-5000mA-...ccessories&hash=item2c650dd34a#ht_2856wt_1197
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Yes troll it would drain your tablet but not as much as a 3g dongle through USB. Did you even read the thread? What do you think the "purpose" is? I didn't say its ideal I said for situations where your phone is about to die from tethering and you need a little charge. Just trying to help.
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Obvious asshat is obvious. The guy points out a fatal flaw in your thinking and suddenly he becomes a troll? You need to brush up on your definition of troll.
I haz no sig
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Since wii're throwing out ideas, I picked up a 5000mA battery charger for $25. It was on sell, so don't expect that price. My Nexus 7 doesn't accept the charger for some reason, but my phone would charge from it. So you can tether and always be able to charge your phone. The thing I have is about the size of a MiFi thingy. LoL!! I think they're going for about $60+ now. Since my E4GT has a 1800mA battery, I technically have 3 batteries with a remainder of 1400mA. That's practically 4 batteries. LoL!! =.P
I bought something "like" this. Looks very much alike except it wasn't from China and it had a 1A and 2.1A port. And I have no idea where "solar" is even coming from. The one I have has nothing "solar" about it. LoL!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-5000mA-...ccessories&hash=item2c650dd34a#ht_2856wt_1197
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Do solar powered battery packs like that even exist?
How are those who've got their N10 finding the charging speed? Mine arrived yesterday and has been charging very slowly, as the reviews had said.
In six hours last night on charge whilst left on standby, it charged about 20%. Is everybody else finding a similar situation?
I'm looking forwards to the pogo-pin chargers/docks being released, which will hopefully charge a bit faster! If anybody knows how to hack something together to make use of the faster charging speed on the pogo connection then please do share! :good:
Of course, you have to look at the amperage and watt of your power supply. Even among the AC powered chargers, they vary greatly, and here you are talking about charging this behemoth with a measly powered USB.
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If it takes 6 hours to charge 20% on a 2amp charger than that is seriously messed up.
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If it takes 6 hours to charge 20% on a 2amp charger than that is seriously messed up.
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Not messed up, just physics. There's an awful lot of resistance in a 9000MaH battery, and a standard microUSB (or even full-sized USB) connector can't handle the amperage that a faster charge would require. Which is why most big tablets had proprietary connectors up to this point.
But guess what? Google and Samsung knew this, it's why the N10 has one too, we just don't have the cable for it yet.
Pogo charger is coming, supposed to be at least twice as fast. Don't know why it was delayed, but most likely either a certification issue, or worry about Apple suing for it being too much like a Mag Safe connector.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet-forum/225484-pogo-charger.html
Some guy posted the Pogo charger here. I wonder where he got it.
Buy a powered USB unit and plug into that, mine puts out around 5 amps
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Buy a powered USB unit and plug into that, mine puts out around 5 amps
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Are the slow speeds people are getting from the wall charger our from a pc connection?
Are you saying a powered USB hub is charging it quicker than the mains charger supplied?
Thank you
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I don't even charge phones via normal USB on PC anymore, let alone a tab. I've found the charging time on the N10 to be ok, provided the screen is off and also if I'm downloading something it seems to slow the charging down. Other than that it's not lightning fast, sure, but I'm ok with it. And so much the better when they release the pogo charger.
charged mine over night yesterday from 10% to full wall mains, but when the screen is one it doesn't seem to charge just maintains current charge which is a bit annoying
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How are those who've got their N10 finding the charging speed? Mine arrived yesterday and has been charging very slowly, as the reviews had said.
In six hours last night on charge whilst left on standby, it charged about 20%. Is everybody else finding a similar situation?
I'm looking forwards to the pogo-pin chargers/docks being released, which will hopefully charge a bit faster! If anybody knows how to hack something together to make use of the faster charging speed on the pogo connection then please do share! :good:
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Try turning anything that uses power off (i.e)...turn the screen brightness the lowest it will go, turn the tablet on airplane mode. Turn the sounds off.
I find that helps my phone charge faster, maybe this will help with the tablet.
Are you talking about charging via USB on a PC, or via the PSU?
Through the PC will be very slow at a maximum of 500mA, but the PSU should be able to power it? My N7 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 had 2A chargers - what does the N10 come with?
I am regretring more and more buying this. I haven't received mine yet but the amount of pixels is kind of ridiculous. I would have been happy with 1920x1200 with that beasyly hardware. Saw a review that said their battery only lasted 4 hours because of the insane power the screen sucks away.
Also the fact that this pogo charger will probably cost $50+ and it is something that should have been standard either way.
Oh Asus infinity..why must your I/O be so god awful. You were almost the perfect tablet
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Yeah charging is slow, though not as bad as 20% in 6 hours! I think mine was charging faster than that even when I was using it. I think trade off is worth it though with the microUSB connector.
The iPad 3/4 is no better... Takes forever to charge
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I am regretring more and more buying this. I haven't received mine yet but the amount of pixels is kind of ridiculous. I would have been happy with 1920x1200 with that beasyly hardware. Saw a review that said their battery only lasted 4 hours because of the insane power the screen sucks away.
Also the fact that this pogo charger will probably cost $50+ and it is something that should have been standard either way.
Oh Asus infinity..why must your I/O be so god awful. You were almost the perfect tablet
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It's just a cable, the charger is already capable of 2a.
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It's just a cable, the charger is already capable of 2a.
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Well if the cable is only $5-$10 then that's great, however I foresee them milking that cable for all its worth . I'll see when I get mine today how I feel
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Lumsdoni said:
Are the slow speeds people are getting from the wall charger our from a pc connection?
Are you saying a powered USB hub is charging it quicker than the mains charger supplied?
Thank you
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No but it will charge at the same speed as a Mains charger and thats better than plugging into your laptop or PC
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No but it will charge at the same speed as a Mains charger and thats better than plugging into your laptop or PC
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I got about 40 % in 2 hours off mains
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It's nice to know that we have the Pogo pins option for faster charging. It makes me feel better now going through with my decision to get N10. I am a heavy media/game consumption guy so this device is perfect for my needs.
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I must say I would hate to spend an extra $55 (assumed price) for a pogo charger for a tablet I've already spent $550 (tax+ship)
I've found a couple forums on this but no solutions. Can anyone confirm a working fast charge USB cable other than the stock LG 3' long one?
Here is the closest thread I found..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483462
How to know which chargers/cables are compatible?
I want to know this for my car charger
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Best buy sells 15watt rapid chargers for car and wall. . There like $30 each but they do a good job. Think the brand name is rocket fish. Just bought 2 a few weeks ago.
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Thanks. But chargers are easy to find. What is difficult to find is a USB cable to work. You'll see in the thread I linked on the first post, lots of people are having challenges with finding USB cables to work even if a charger is well above 2 amps. Even using the stock LG charger, no USB cables seem to work except the one that came with the phone, to eliminate the "slow charge" icon and allow around 1500mA of current to be drawn from the charger like it should in a fast charge..
what cable are you using with your new charger? And do you get the slow charging icon?
I think it all boils down to the charging base... I have used the LG, various Htc and Samsung base units with all kinds of mini & micro USB cables without any issues... The base units are rated from 800mA~1.5 and have not had any slow charging issues... I've only experienced the slow charging when connected to the PC or some car chargers...
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I bought this combination and fast charges great in my car.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W34X5O/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077PM3KG/ref=oh_details_o01_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used to run a 1.5' usb cable from monoprice and the GPS on my phone would discharge the battery faster than it could be charged. Now the phone charges so much faster.
I have yet to have a problem with any of the generic monoprice cables and wall charges I bought a couple years ago. Only time I get a slow charge notification is using my 1a car charger. My Optimus G and HTC One X chargers and cable work fine as well.
IT IS NOT THE CHARGER!!
It is something in the cable. And good luck finding one. If you use the included USB cable that came with the G2, then it will charge on ANY charger "normally" (fast charge). If you use ANY OTHER cable, it will slow charge.
I don't know what is in the cable or why it makes a difference, but none of my USB cords/chargers work unless I use the INCLUDED USB CABLE.
I had a thread on this already somewhere in the General Area I think. It REALLY sucks because I have TONS of chargers and cables. I have some at work, home office, bedside, 2 in my car, friends cars, etc. I DO use Wireless Charging at night and luckily the phone has a huge battery to last through the day.
There IS a problem here but my thread got ignored like, "I don't see a problem here, just use the included cable". Well yea if I stayed home all the time. My work makes me travel for work so I have to make sure I remove the 1 working cable and carry it with me EVERYWHERE. What a pain in the butt.
Has anyone tried on custom roms to see if perhaps it is something just on the stock software telling it to go Slo-Mo.
My Verizon non usb attachment cable charges fast. My OEM Spectrum cable does as well. My dual one amp car charger charges slow no matter the cable, and my works Motorola and Kyocera cable charges slow no matter the connection. I have a couple Samsung's I need to test. I do not own any generics. I have not tried other combos.
player911 said:
IT IS NOT THE CHARGER!!
It is something in the cable. And good luck finding one. If you use the included USB cable that came with the G2, then it will charge on ANY charger "normally" (fast charge). If you use ANY OTHER cable, it will slow charge.
I don't know what is in the cable or why it makes a difference, but none of my USB cords/chargers work unless I use the INCLUDED USB CABLE.
I had a thread on this already somewhere in the General Area I think. It REALLY sucks because I have TONS of chargers and cables. I have some at work, home office, bedside, 2 in my car, friends cars, etc. I DO use Wireless Charging at night and luckily the phone has a huge battery to last through the day.
There IS a problem here but my thread got ignored like, "I don't see a problem here, just use the included cable". Well yea if I stayed home all the time. My work makes me travel for work so I have to make sure I remove the 1 working cable and carry it with me EVERYWHERE. What a pain in the butt.
Has anyone tried on custom roms to see if perhaps it is something just on the stock software telling it to go Slo-Mo.
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I am using the Asus charger that my Nexus 7 (2012) came with and Samsung cables to charge my LG G2, no problems. Charges fast.
I just picked up one of these for work:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OD89MY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Charges fast, as well.
vween said:
I am using the Asus charger that my Nexus 7 (2012) came with and Samsung cables to charge my LG G2, no problems. Charges fast.
I just picked up one of these for work:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005OD89MY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Charges fast, as well.
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Na I have TONS of chargers that all fast charge. They are all 2.0+mAh. Its just the cables.
I service hotels and I always raid their lost and found bin. Always treasure in there.
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Its just the cables.
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LG Spectrum cable does not work, slow charge, my fault.
However, the straight plug from my new Verizon car charger does work, the USB port also (ONLY with G2 cable so far[tested lg spectrum, Motorola, Samsung, and Kyocera. Older cables]).
Recap: So far ONLY Direct car charger or USB G2 cable has fast charged. Must be chipped or using some different wire combo?
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Na I have TONS of chargers that all fast charge. They are all 2.0+mAh. Its just the cables.
I service hotels and I always raid their lost and found bin. Always treasure in there.
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
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Ok. I can confirm that the cable used for the Nexus 7 (2012) works.
Also, the original cable for the Samsung Skyrocket works.
Works meaning fast charge.
I can't gurantee that this is the cable, but my skyrocket cable does look like the top cable here:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-usb-cable
(Charger looks like it too, but the charget won't fast charge G2)
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The Skyrocket was really picky about cables/chargers. If it didn't have the correct one, it would wakelock. Maybe there's something with the way it's wired that makes it good for the G2 as well.
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I wonder if one of these would help:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YX4HDU...UTF8&colid=30QBEX6L12GNN&coliid=IG0PDK7SARZGV
It's something to do with pins 2&3 being bridged that enables a cable to support fast charge.
That adapter linked above is supposed to do that.
More links:
http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-Char...2912&sr=1-6&keywords=USB/USB+Adapter+charging
http://www.amazon.com/Specialised-M...3703391&sr=8-1&keywords=fast+charge+usb+cable
Has anyone tried any of these.
player911 said:
IT IS NOT THE CHARGER!!
It is something in the cable. And good luck finding one. If you use the included USB cable that came with the G2, then it will charge on ANY charger "normally" (fast charge). If you use ANY OTHER cable, it will slow charge.
I don't know what is in the cable or why it makes a difference, but none of my USB cords/chargers work unless I use the INCLUDED USB CABLE.
I had a thread on this already somewhere in the General Area I think. It REALLY sucks because I have TONS of chargers and cables. I have some at work, home office, bedside, 2 in my car, friends cars, etc. I DO use Wireless Charging at night and luckily the phone has a huge battery to last through the day.
There IS a problem here but my thread got ignored like, "I don't see a problem here, just use the included cable". Well yea if I stayed home all the time. My work makes me travel for work so I have to make sure I remove the 1 working cable and carry it with me EVERYWHERE. What a pain in the butt.
Has anyone tried on custom roms to see if perhaps it is something just on the stock software telling it to go Slo-Mo.
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Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. It may be the software in the phone that is causing the issue. I had to replace my car charger so I picked up a rocketfish 3.0 amp charger. When I originally used it, it was ridiculously fast, literally 30% in about 30 or so minutes.
Now, here's why I don't think it has anything to do with the charger cables. When I got my phone, I kept putting off doing the first update because I wasn't sure if I was going to root this phone. During this time, I got very good charging speeds from my rocketfish 3.0 amp car charger and many of my other rapid chargers. When I decided I wasn't going to root, I went ahead and downloaded the update. Now, unless I'm using the cable that came with the phone, I get the slow charging message with every single charger. I went from 30% in 30 to about 10% in 30 on my car charger.
I may need to pull out my tinfoil hat, but it would be a pretty huge coincidence that all my charging woes began with that update.
Yea something isn't right. I have a GNex, G2, Nexus 7 2012 and 2013. I always check for AC charging in Settings>Status. It will say AC or USB. When I got my Nexus 7s I replaced all of my chargers with fast chargers. For 2 years I've been fast charging. I got 3 different fast USB chargers on my desk, using the existing setup, Everything fast charges except the G2. If I use the included G2 cable, it will fast charge off all of them. The same with ALL of my home/office/car/travel chargers.
I can only get it to fast charge when I use the included USB cable.
Its something magical with that cable.
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player911 said:
IT IS NOT THE CHARGER!!
It is something in the cable. And good luck finding one. If you use the included USB cable that came with the G2, then it will charge on ANY charger "normally" (fast charge). If you use ANY OTHER cable, it will slow charge.
I don't know what is in the cable or why it makes a difference, but none of my USB cords/chargers work unless I use the INCLUDED USB CABLE.
I had a thread on this already somewhere in the General Area I think. It REALLY sucks because I have TONS of chargers and cables. I have some at work, home office, bedside, 2 in my car, friends cars, etc. I DO use Wireless Charging at night and luckily the phone has a huge battery to last through the day.
There IS a problem here but my thread got ignored like, "I don't see a problem here, just use the included cable". Well yea if I stayed home all the time. My work makes me travel for work so I have to make sure I remove the 1 working cable and carry it with me EVERYWHERE. What a pain in the butt.
Has anyone tried on custom roms to see if perhaps it is something just on the stock software telling it to go Slo-Mo.
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I haven't even unwrapped the charging base and usb cable that came with my G2, they still remain in the box. I have been using the charging bases from my Nexus 4, L9, Htc One X, Motorola Atrix and a GS3 through out my house and have mixed cables from god only knows where and all of them work. I get no slow charging from any combination. Even using mini usb cables with micro usb adapters attached and they all still work. I've checked all the output voltages and the lowest one is 800mA. Granted my D801 is rooted, but no custom rom as of yet.
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MkV05 said:
I haven't even unwrapped the charging base and usb cable that came with my G2, they still remain in the box. I have been using the charging bases from my Nexus 4, L9, Htc One X, Motorola Atrix and a GS3 through out my house and have mixed cables from god only knows where and all of them work. I get no slow charging from any combination. Even using mini usb cables with micro usb adapters attached and they all still work. I've checked all the output voltages and the lowest one is 800mA. Granted my D801 is rooted, but no custom rom as of yet.
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Have you gotten an OTA update?
I'm on the Verizon model. The other guy here said he only started having problems after the Verizon OTA.
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
Here's my theory,
There are chips either in the battery, the transformer, or both. When the phone doesn't detect what's required, it gives a slow charge message and reduces the charge speed. I have had previous phones with batteries that had built in chips that I had to buy because the generic batteries without the chips wouldn't work as well. I haven't taken a good look at the battery, and the transformer seems abnormally large, when I get a chance and some spares, I'll probably take them apart.
My tinfoil hat is telling me that LG is trying to rope us into buying first-party accessories, but it may also be a way to regulate battery health. Having a non-removable battery, it may be a move by LG to extend the life of the battery as long as possible.
Also, I just rooted my phone and so far no change. I will try the car charger tomorrow.
No updates from Tmobile as of yet... I can only imagine the frustration though. You would think LG would have made charging the phone, regardless of the model more standard across the board.
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800mA is a slow charge... You should average 1700mA. Our cable is five pinned (if that matters). I need grab the mA reader app again. Now we know there is kernel check for flux ect. I want to know if the cable is pre chipped as well for check and regulation, isn't too uncommon. I'm beginning to lean more on an over aggressive kernel check though or possibly a combo of kernel and certain chip model check. I just find it odd my straight Verizon car charger and only this cable is working for me. Gonna check car cable pins in the morning. Verizon here, OTA taken. Did not check before.
After careful thought, I decided to return my shield tablet (so I won't be doing any dev work for it.) The tablet just isn't right for me. It has some issues, but so does every tablet/phone/etc. I'm not posting this to start bashing nvidia, etc... I just felt obligated to let people know that I've changed my mind and so won't be doing dev work for the device.
Take care
Gary
Wow. Talk about selfish. Let me guess, Apple paid you to keep developing for Samsung o_0 , wow. No one believes in charity anymore, so much for Ferguson.
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Huh? I'm selfish because I returned a tablet I wasn't happy with? What am I missing here?
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Sad to hear/see a dev leave a product, but can you tell us/me why? Just wondering. I'm on the fence with regards to buying the tablet and would like to hear from someone with a more objective point of view.
Cheers and good luck with your future dev work
I think bipoler was being facetious.
Thanks for what you do as a dev. Hope you find the right device for you!
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can you tell us/me why? Just wondering.
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1. Anger at NVidia for what I feel was purposely misleading consumers about the lollipop release on the 18th (US/LTE). I know they turned a blind eye to the leaked update, but they should have disclosed the potential delay when they made the announcement.
2. While the battery life was acceptable, the charging wasn't (for me.). Even with a high amperage charger, the silly tablet would lose charge even playing simple games like "dots" or "threes."
3. I wasn't satisfied with nvidias resolution (or lack of) for the cracked edges issue. Too many customers were (and still are) experiencing the problem even after nvidia claimed it was fixed.
4. My wife asked me to stop spending money on geek toys, and I really wanted a nexus 6
Take care
Gary
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>the charging wasn't (for me.). Even with a high amperage charger, the silly tablet would lose charge even playing simple games like "dots" or "threes."
Were you using the stock cable and stock charger? Some cables do not support high charge rates and even some high amperage chargers are wired for apple devices and most android devices cannot charge higher that .5amps with them.
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Were you using the stock cable and stock charger?
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The stock charger was worse than a computer USB port. I only use higher end USB cables, and I have various charging bricks from several different phones and other devices. The simple fact is that the charging circuit just wouldn't pull enough amperage. (None from apple, BTW). I even have 3.6 amp USB charging ports hardwired into my electrical outlets in various rooms of my house.
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>The stock charger was worse than a computer USB port.
That is not right, and sounds like the power brick had a problem. Pc usb should only be providing .5 amps way less than the brick. My brick charges vastly faster than a pc usb port.
> I only use higher end USB cables
High end is only part of it, you need ones that are specifically built with thicker gauge cable.
>None from apple, BTW
It does not have to be from apple as most usb charger manufactures still follow apples charging standard. They do not do the standard for dedicated charging devices (short data pins) that most android device follow. Actually, every dedicated charger i have bought i have had to solder the data pins together for full charging.
Okay. You are assuming that I don't know my way around USB charging. The opposite is true. As well, it really makes no difference in terms of the nvidia tablet. It's gone.
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It may not matter to you but the Clarification's made would be extremely useful to someone who may not be well versed in the myrad of issues with charging any android device.
Thread is degenerating... Closing it.
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