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I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
Thoughts? Am I missing something?
This is the wrong section, the General section would be the appropriate section for this.
this should be in general, but i agree it seems that lots of roms out there are just customizations of existing roms, a color change here and there. There really isnt anything major to differentiate between sense roms, except for 3 or 4 big ones, and then there is CM rom, and the roms based of CM seem like just themed version of CM, but who knows i mean im not a developer, maybe theres only so much one can do as far as development.
easedrop said:
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The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
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Thoughts? Am I missing something?
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Better get started developing.
What else do you want the ROM's out there to do?:
OC: Check
Undervolt: Check
AOSP Builds: Check
Open Source 4G: Check
De-odex: Check
Wide Variety of Themes: Check
Open Source FM Radio: Check
Wireless Tether: Check
Wired Tether: Check
Gingerbread: Check
AND THE LIST GOES ON...
What I'm trying to say is, unless your speaking specifically about HDMI, there's really not a lot left to be desired that can't be had from these phones until Honeycomb hits.
I mean, CM even supports SIP accounts natively...among the millions of other small details that are so amazing.
Even DLNA can be had through a simple app...what's left for you to want so badly that your phone cannot do already?
My point is, is that most devs are not going start over from scratch just for the heck of it, when something so close to optimum potential has already been reached.
Sent from my 4G-Toting, Lightning Smoking, Gingerfied, Cyanogenmodded EVO: Please stand back!
Itotally disagree. I mean, some, yeah, you're right, but look at the mods done to the more popular roms. Not just theming but tweaks, custome apps, etc.
What more do you want form a ROM?
And while, true, some people are married to CM, some are more into Senseui, some Miui.
Everyone has different tastes, and from what I se eon here, there's something for just about everyone.
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As per your questions, devs make roms based on their personal taste and, in many cases, general feedback from the users. There are many plain, stock rooted roms out there, and many tutorials in case you want to make your own as well. Also, you can easily theme any rom to your liking. I hope this answers your concern.
i think the ROM's on the evo are pretty strong. My criteria is, do the majority if not all ROM's improve upon stock? Yes. Do the majority if not all the dev's support their ROM's and upgrade in a timely manner? Yes Do the majority if not all the dev's have themes/mods available for their ROMS? Yes. Are there more than one style of ROM's to choose? YES 1. Sense 2. AOSP - MIUI 3. AOSP - CM 4. AOSP - Liquid metal
easedrop said:
I just wanted to get a feel/consensus on peoples opinion of the third party rom scene for the EVO. I started my XDA days back with a tilt, and have been loyal to HTC since then.
The EVO is simply the best phone out there at the moment, IMO. But the roms seem to be very lacking in actual substance and it's a bit disappointing.
Almost every rom I've looked at here has been so customized and themed they are really just eyesores. It was normal on all my other devices to have some of the roms that were being produced be like this, but not all. I've been really impressed in the past with HTC roms. Dutty is one of my favorites.
The only 2 current exceptions I've found are CM and Fresh, and since some of us refuse to use sense, it really only leaves one choice.
CM is awesome, and the work that goes into it is really really amazing. There isn't a bunch of customization to the UI, it's left up to you what you want to do for how your phone looks. It's a rock solid foundation to build upon, and it would be awesome to see more roms in that form.
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There are way more. Click my signature and you'll see
my EVO is way cooler than yours
Except your link is broken...
easedrop said:
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Yes. MIUI.
the OP ... is expectiong way too much....
you do relize for most.. this is a good little hobby..
so is done around free time...
you want more... you do it! I dont have the skills to even try.
I do appreciate the ones that can... and do.
there are a lot of phones out in the market. and not all phones even have a dev community.. and if they do, it aint that big.
so there are different levels of dev support from phone to phone.
EVO, is way up there in the level of quality devs and community support.
Fixed my sig, forgot i changed the link. But there are a Sh*t ton of choices, my count is at 144 thus far
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Yes. MIUI.
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+1... this.
I've had 4 Android phones:
Evo
G2
MyTouch 3g Slide
Moto Cliq
This forum has more roms, kernels, mods, themes, etc than all 3 of my prior phones combined. Every time I hit the dev section I'm a kid in the candy store. There's fully functioning roms that work with everything and a few that I'm excited to see get better, like MIUI getting 4g.
There's very few phones out there with this much dev support, my friend has an LG vortex. Go find the LG vortex section of the forums. They don't exist.
My point, you have to do some digging but there's something here for everyone. If there isn't, make it! We could always use another dev to try to topple the big dogs.
I hope SE marketing dudes can read this too!
I was a SE fanboy since the T68 and I only left them last year for the Nexus One, the reason?
HTC didn't lock everything in their Google Android phone and I can change any rom I want whenever I want,keeping me not to get bored by the same UI...
When I saw the presentation of the SE ARC I said to myself ''what a jewel!'' and was convinced to come back to SE,BUT it looks like SE doesn't want me or many many other people to get an ARC because they didn't understand the meaning of Android OS = Rooting and Custom Roms!!
Samsung in another hand understood very well the Android buyers needs and that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
In other words: SE is not learning from their errors or they don't want to?
Hahaha, how much do you want to hate a brand to start the 40th of such a topic. If you visit xda often you know there are hundreds of these kind of topics, tell me, why you open a new topic for this. 20 seconds of reading and you found lots of the same....
Mods, please delete this...this whole section will be a mess...just keep the flamers in one topic....
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The arc is rumoured to be more open than X10. Guess we just have to wait and see
The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
vegetaleb said:
that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
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I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
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I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
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Quite a few of the Galaxy S's that I have seen had some sort of lagfix applied to correct the messed up filesystem that Samsung implemented but on the custom roms I'm absolutely with you.
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The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
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Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
Ambroos said:
Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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Exactly, but as you said it's only a hardcore minority, and they should try to understand why Sony Ericsson (or other manufacturers) can't always make sure everything is the way they want it to be!
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
vegetaleb said:
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
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I beg to differ, think about it, how many members here for the X10 section? 100k? 200K? I don't think we exceed 10k to be honest. Xperia sold in 2010 more than 9 million devices. Calculate that then you'll understand that we are the minorities here, 10% maximum
I'm getting an Arc, and I for instance won't be rooting it or putting a custom rom on it. The X10, I would, just for JIT, but that's about it really... Oh well!
I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
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I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
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Then 10% is probably too much
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0.1% of 9 million is 9000... 1% is 90,000.. so I think we can safely pitch in at less than 1% will have rooted the phone. And sadly for them, they're also oblivious of how much more it can do once rooted!
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
xilw3r said:
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
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It will remain locked. Same with other companies as they are now asking SE's advice in locking their device. Atrix should be one of the new handsets that are signed locked.
darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
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darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
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well, you're locked to roms which are made for your kernel version, if you have a locked bootloader
anyway I'm not really too fussed regarding locked bootloader tbh, I want a Android phone that has excellent multimedia options, with sleek design and extremely potent camera, that's exactly what Arc is - I bought x8 just to test out Android and honestly I can't say I'm too dissapointed with them deciding not to support old xperia line of products
I'll be super annoyed if they don't provide future support for the arc though, minimum 2+ years support is what all the mobile phone companies should do with their phones
SE has learned that it doesn't matter and that they can get away with it. It's likely that android will stay on the 2.3/4. Xxxx for a while for phones. But I don't think that they will support any phone past a year anymore.
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This is a poll thread where you can freely state your facts and opinions on your favorite type of ROM (Sammy-based ROM, MIUI or CM)
This is also a thread for the people who want to know what kinds of ROMs are being used worldwide.
IF you want, you can even comment down below and say why you like them
I use MIUI myself, but I did come from a Sammy-based ROM and even tried CM for a few weeks.
Voice your opinions, and let us know why!
**Sammy-based ROM = stock as well
If you happen to want to try the ROM type which you are not using, click on the links below.
Sammy-based ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204
MIUI-based ROMs:
http://www.miuiandroid.com/
http://www.miui.us/
http://www.miui.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455731
CyanogenMod:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366341
This thread is NOT a question, just a poll. I don't want to post a favorite ROM post because new ROMs get released by the day and its hard to keep up ^_^
I haven't tried MIUI yet, so I won't vote. But I've been playing with the stable version of Cyanogen Mod for a week now and like it. It's heads and shoulders better than the stock ROM.
CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
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CM-based ROMS are nice, but video hardware decoding support is spotty. I use my phone to play 1080p/720p videos quite often, which are often unwatchable using software decoders. So I have no choice but to stick with Samsung-based ROMs for now...
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Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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what is this MIU thingy
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions. But good luck anyway.
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I never tried MIUI because it looks to me like a clone of iPhone, when I want iPhone I buy iPhone...
I used CM7 because of its configuration options and theme chooser, hope CM9 will get them too...
I've tried all of them.
I prefer Samsung based ROMs at this time. They just seem to be the smoothest, most reliable ROMs which is not a surprise really. I did go through a phase where almost everything was stock but I've gone back to Go Launcher and Go SMS as I found the Samsung launcher too limiting (even though it is smooth, though Go Launcher isn't far behind) and the same can be said for the Sammy SMS app, also I find it a little slower than Go SMS in terms of responsiveness.
Cyanogen ROMs I feel do not run as fluidly as Samsung ROMs, and generally contain more bugs. As another poster said, they lack some of the codec support of the Samsung ROMs. Also, and I realise you can change this with themes etc, but the AOSP Android is a bit bland, at least in pre-ICS form. And CM9 simply isn't ready yet as a daily driver IMO. I look forward to revisiting CM9 when it is more polished.
MIUI ROMs I really like in terms of features. Everything you need is there out of the box, however, I find them resource hogs, and go a step further again than Cyanogen in not running as fluidly. You can see this when jumping from screen to screen or navigating menus, it feels like I am running an old Nexus One again in terms of speed. It just isn't fluid. This was a while ago so maybe things have changed. If they sorted these issues out, it could be the most fantastic ROM.
So Samsung ROM for me at the moment.
Suarez7 said:
Lol agree with u fella. To @OP
I like roms that are already in the android development.
But on a serious note if we all voted on a best rom everyone would be using that. You are only going to get different opinions.
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Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
TheSaw said:
Woohoo! Another thread where I can freely state my opinion. Jolly good!
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As stated, you don't have to write why you like it, just click on what you use in the poll, and people who are actually interested would actually care about the stats. No ROM discussion is required if the repliers don't want to reply. Just a poll.
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Aosp every time.
Cheers
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Well, I dont see how this post is the same as those noob questions on whats the best rom you see, if i posted one of those questions, it would be all those "there is no such thing as a best rom, only what fits you" kind of answers all over the place. This is only trying to get people to know what kind of ROMs we are all running, and also its the kind of stats that gets people knowing how many people are using what kind of rom.
hehehe and also you wrote android development, meaning you like Sammy-based ROMs, should have just entered it in the poll.
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true Sir i did not see the poll you already had above as i was on the phone. but anyhow android development is not just sammy based roms you have MIUI in there plus CM7 like builds and ICS but personally for me..I like so far yes you got it right Sammy based roms....But as soon source code gets released and Siyah is out for CM9 and they get it more stable i am making the leap straight away....
Cheers...Still find this pointless thread but anywhoo
I also prefer stock ROM's.
Not to ditch efforts of all custom ROM makers, but two reasons my stock preference. I really don't trust enough to 3rd party applications much. That's even true for my desktop computer.
Second of all, I'm a bit lazy to deal with any problems, bugs or other stuff that may occur and obviously more chance of bricking phone with 3rd parties.
Third reason unlike most, I really like TouchWiz and additions that Samsung did over standard Android. I have two other Android based devices, one of them is default, other is HTC. I know they lack a lot of free utilities and touch & feel, (and no Sense does not cut it)
alsgrigorjevs said:
Incorrect, try Dice Player. It's fantastic and by far superior then Sammy stock.
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I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
Logi_Ca1 said:
I should have mentioned that I used MX Video Player, which falls back to SW Codecs 70% of the time. Gonna do a quick install of CM7 and see what you say about Dice Player is true.
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Does MX video player rely on samsung codecs? because I use it with my stock rom and the latest versions play almost everything in Hw decoders.
Older versions used to play some video files in sw decoders , but now everything is hardware accelerated and I even use it instead of the default player.
So my understanding is that if an update made the app support more video formats in Hw decoding mode ,then it should be indpendent of the rom we're using ,right?
Anorexic stock for me. Never liked MIUI, and appreciate the stability/100% functionality of stock over CM every time.
Used the ROM kitchen on my SGS1, got used to having no bloat, and haven't looked back since.
The ROM in my sig ticks all my boxes.
I like Samsung Roms firstly for the Email app for my Company's exchange account. Also for the Enchansed camera app, for the BEST stability and Siyah Kernel for Speed and Battery life!
I voted for cyanogen, but honestly the best ROM is always the one I just flashed :laugh:
160dpi stock Sammy rom for me
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Hi friends......
I wanna know what special feature is available on cyanogenmod that don't have in ours custom roms?? And why everyone just want a CM port on their phone??? What's the benifit of it?
Can anyone explain????:beer:
im curious too
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Anyone don't know??? Then why everyone's interested in CM???
CyanogenMod (pronounced sigh-AN-oh-jen-mod), is a customized, aftermarket firmware distribution for several Android devices. Based on the Android Open Source Project, CyanogenMod is designed to increase performance and reliability over Android-based ROMs released by vendors and carriers such as Google, T-Mobile, HTC, etc. CyanogenMod also offers a variety of features & enhancements that are not currently found in these versions of Android.
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The "varities of features" are not ordinary ones, and when you use a CM integrated phone, you'll understand better. So, there are many, many benefits. In short, cyanogen mod is like a trip to heaven for our phone.
well it depends in what version of cm but 4 me cm7 is enough... cm7 is
1 android 2.3.7 while our stock and custom rom is 2.3.6
2 it has crt effect when turning off the screen and when you enable rotation on the screen rotates like galaxy s3 or like apples iphone
3. The lockscreen we have ported is just basic compared to lockacreen of cm7, it has more features and more customizablility
4 custom themes are readily available, even OTA i thinkcant exactly remember
5 theres a lot of stuff you can tweak in the system without ever needing 3rd party apps like setcpu, nofrills and the like
These are just the top 5 things i want from cm7
And i know all this cause i used cm7 galaxy S for a day
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dude,
there is no need to explain,
borrow someone else's phone with CM7,
and you'll see the beauty of CM and what we're missing out
Well Thanks ... now waiting for CM..... anyone know about the progress of cm for our phone?
deathnotice01 said:
dude,
there is no need to explain,
borrow someone else's phone with CM7,
and you'll see the beauty of CM and what we're missing out
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Just wanted to give him an idea what cm has that our stock or custom roms dont have
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Just wanted to give him an idea what cm has that our stock or custom roms dont have
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sorry if i offended you,
i wasnt quoting anyone,
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sorry if i offended you,
i wasnt quoting anyone,
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No hard feelings and no problem bro
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CM is good
As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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tanjotsingh said:
As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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wrong,
some low-end devices has CM7,9,10
like galaxy mini, galaxy 5, galaxy ace, and some others i forgot
tanjotsingh said:
As compared to other custom Roms CM is best you can also compare it with any of the custom roms and ICS or Jelly bean mostly not possible to port in low end devices but the CM is platform that provides these versions of ported roms to low end devices.
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But the sad truth is our device isnt really that low end we just cant make use of the full potential of our hardware due to lack of source code to make full use of the phones hardware capabilities
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Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
you are looking for any aosp(android open source project) based rom, based on pure android. the nexus 4, as well as all other nexus, are aosp devices. rasbean jelly is one of the best, if not the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028025
aokp is good man...there is no difference
I guess you should understand that all of the Roms you have mentioned are actually built from the Nexus Software. PAC and PUB are basically offshoots of AOSP /AOKP /Cyanogen / Paranoid. The nexus is the test bed, if you will. These ROMS are specifically for our phone, built from our phones ROM, with additions in order to better them. That is as straightforward of an answer as I can get you. You should give ALL of the roms a try and see what fits your taste best, hope this helps.
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
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Pac(Vertigo & Blue) has Linaro, Krait, and whatever the A15 patches are called(memspy?).
Thanks everyone.
simms22 said:
you are looking for any aosp(android open source project) based rom, based on pure android. the nexus 4, as well as all other nexus, are aosp devices. rasbean jelly is one of the best, if not the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028025
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I have to say that in my opinion, this ROM looks somewhat unprofessional. Its not that I tried it, but I can't understand the basic things from the OP as I should, for example the ROM's features, bugs, screenshots...
[email protected] said:
I guess you should understand that all of the Roms you have mentioned are actually built from the Nexus Software. PAC and PUB are basically offshoots of AOSP /AOKP /Cyanogen / Paranoid. The nexus is the test bed, if you will. These ROMS are specifically for our phone, built from our phones ROM, with additions in order to better them. That is as straightforward of an answer as I can get you. You should give ALL of the roms a try and see what fits your taste best, hope this helps.
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Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
Ace42 said:
Pac(Vertigo & Blue) has Linaro, Krait, and whatever the A15 patches are called(memspy?).
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Vertigo is the username of the Pac ROM developer as I can see. Is there a version of a developer Blue? I don't really understand.
And what is memspy?
the information is there, screenshots arent needed. but you should stay with cm then, if youre looking for an op and not a rom.
anyways, you do realize that all the nexus 4 roms are built from source? there no need to port roms to any nexus since all the sources are available for every nexus. so to say, all nexus roms are built specifically for the nexus 4, even cm. just because a rom exists on multiple devices, doesnt mean that its ported. most non nexus roms are ported to non nexus devices because they dont have sources available. this doesnt happen to nexus devices.
this is identical with a thread i remember seeing in the gnex forums a while back. anyways, they are all made for the nexus 4. they use drivers that are specific to our phone. if you flash it on another device, it wont work. AOSP is AOSP, that's the point of it. you won't get any extra device specific features if a rom is only built for the nexus 4 vs cyanogenmod which is out for a bunch of phones. the only way that happens is if your phone has a hardware feature another one doesn't ie: NFC.
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
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Hi. There are many things to argue here is this post but I will try to help to get you some information to get you on the right track. First off there are two versions if you will of Android, one being "AOSP" or the "Android Open Source Project" and "Google Android". Google Android is what shipped with your device, and has Google owned proprietary in it that is closed sourced, most of the development done in a Nexus forum will come from using AOSP Android. Its the same Android that ships with your device but it does not contain any of Google's proprietary and its completely open-source, however some of the coding needed for a specific devices hardware is not open-source, there's more I can go into on that but I'll stop in short by saying the Nexus4 is probably one of the best devices to be working on platform level coding since all of the binaries needed are properly licensed and most of the hardware coding is open-source. So now that's out of the way. Most of the roms here are forks of AOSP with some being forked from AOKP, CyanogenMod and PA, in order for a developer to build a Nexus4 rom they have to use the provided hardware binaries in combination to the software coding to produce said roms, so ALL of the roms here are built directly for this device. Where confusion come in at is that some of the developers do not have a Nexus4 and build based of the availability of someone being a guinea pig. Also you will have to know whats in you device, such words as "krait optimizations" should not be a hook to get you to try a rom nor should a screen shot since most of the roms look stock besides the few that are themed, ok if they're themed they probably should have a pic, but seriously know your hardware so that you are not just letting a buzzword give you a placebo effect, and remember a roms OP most times doesn't do any justice for the experience you will have from that rom so its best to just try what ever sounds interesting blindly...
TheeWolf said:
Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
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you can't really optimize a rom for a specific device.
they are nearly the same for all devices, and there is no point in optimizing it for specific hardware.
what you can optimize is the kernel, the part that contains the device specific drivers and basically controls the hardware. these are already built and optimized for the nexus 4.
but that doesn't mean that fixes and improvements for other devices have negative effects on the nexus 4.
also, device specific changes in changelogs are mostly kernel related.
TheeWolf said:
Thanks everyone.
I have to say that in my opinion, this ROM looks somewhat unprofessional. Its not that I tried it, but I can't understand the basic things from the OP as I should, for example the ROM's features, bugs, screenshots...
Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
Vertigo is the username of the Pac ROM developer as I can see. Is there a version of a developer Blue? I don't really understand.
And what is memspy?
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Dude, first try and test a rom before you form and vent your opinion based on nothing.
Thank you everyone for the explanations.
gee2012 said:
Dude, first try and test a rom before you form and vent your opinion based on nothing.
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As I have said, I have already flashed many ROMs, I am not basing my opinion on nothing. I have not opened this thread is not to find out "what is the best ROM" - more than a year of messing with Android and being here in XDA got me understanding there is no such thing, no best ROM. The purpose of this thread is get me some answers, to see if what I am saying is even true.
If Cyanogenmod is the same for every device then riddle me this:
Why is there a different .zip for each device?
You are not going to find a better all around ROM than CM dude. In CM each device has its own tree with many device specific commits and custom changes. You sound very ill-informed asking the questions you are asking; I am surprised you haven't received a lot more flame for it.