Media capabilities? - Ouya General

It would be nice to use this for Netflix and Youtube. I also want to stream video files from my PC to the Ouya via PS3 Media Server or something similar. I imagine Netflix and Youtube will be easy, but what about streaming from the PC?

I'm interested too, though more of what kind of media it's able to play. My camera takes 'AVCHD 2.0' video, which is 1080p/60, which is 1080p video at 60 frames per second at a bitrate of about 28mbps.
I'm wondering if the OUYA would be capable of playing this. The PS3 apparently isn't, since it stutters when I tried to play the video's in it. It would be nice if the OUYA could, but I have my doubts.

Wouldn't worry about media playback or streaming.
http://xbmc.org/natethomas/2012/08/07/xbmc-and-ouya-oh-yeah/

XBMC is the #1 reason I got the OUYA

The Tegra 3 devices I have used have all been able to play 1080p video wirelessly, though not through SMB.
I use serviio on the host PCs and bubble upnp on the devices. With bubble upnp you won't even have to touch the OUYA controls. You can browse videos through your phone and will push the video to the OUYA.
Using the OUYA as a dedicated media player is the number one reason I want one.
RE 1080p/60: I would probably say no, but have not tested it.

xFaultx said:
XBMC is the #1 reason I got the OUYA
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+1
ouya will be perfect for this

The main issue with OUYA is that all existing android apps will have to be reworked to support controller/remote input
I dont think the Touch pad on the controller is going to cut it. The creator of the Mupen64 emulator sent me this:
"While originally this was planned as a separate port, having looked at the ODK more closely I've discovered that it can be pipelined inside a single APK. So the Google Play version will in fact include the OUYA port (it is now technically an expansion of the project rather than a port).
That said, there are quite a unique requirements when developing for the OUYA compared to vanilla Android. The most immediate are the lack of a touch screen for menu interfaces such as button mapping (touchpad workaround being awkward and slow), lack of Home and Back buttons on the controllers (OUYA simulating Back with a non-standard keycode), lack of a standard Android action bar and menu overflow button, and serious graphics overscan to name the big ones). Had I not purchased a devkit and actually looked into optimizing the app for the OUYA at all, the Google Play version would certainly not have worked well on the OUYA because of these problems. The most serious concerns would have been no way to access the in-game menu options for things like save-state or load-state, extremely tedious mapping the controllers, and borders of the screen being cut off."

I go with the above. You can extract an APK and install on Ouya and will more than likely run. The issue is more, will Ouya input controllers allow one to move around the system or within the apps. Maybe trying something like Sixaxias Controller app and controller may give some indication.
As for the rest, it'll be about the apps. I don't thin PS3Server will work since that is DNLA, and I don't believe Ouya is going to have DNLA. But something like XBMC or Plex should work for media distribution. For direct media playback, If you can find a way to navigate, something like Mobo Player, BS Player, or VLC Android should work.

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DrROBschiz said:
The main issue with OUYA is that all existing android apps will have to be reworked to support controller/remote input
I dont think the Touch pad on the controller is going to cut it. The creator of the Mupen64 emulator sent me this:
"While originally this was planned as a separate port, having looked at the ODK more closely I've discovered that it can be pipelined inside a single APK. So the Google Play version will in fact include the OUYA port (it is now technically an expansion of the project rather than a port).
That said, there are quite a unique requirements when developing for the OUYA compared to vanilla Android. The most immediate are the lack of a touch screen for menu interfaces such as button mapping (touchpad workaround being awkward and slow), lack of Home and Back buttons on the controllers (OUYA simulating Back with a non-standard keycode), lack of a standard Android action bar and menu overflow button, and serious graphics overscan to name the big ones). Had I not purchased a devkit and actually looked into optimizing the app for the OUYA at all, the Google Play version would certainly not have worked well on the OUYA because of these problems. The most serious concerns would have been no way to access the in-game menu options for things like save-state or load-state, extremely tedious mapping the controllers, and borders of the screen being cut off."
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lovekeiiy said:
I go with the above. You can extract an APK and install on Ouya and will more than likely run. The issue is more, will Ouya input controllers allow one to move around the system or within the apps. Maybe trying something like Sixaxias Controller app and controller may give some indication.
As for the rest, it'll be about the apps. I don't thin PS3Server will work since that is DNLA, and I don't believe Ouya is going to have DNLA. But something like XBMC or Plex should work for media distribution. For direct media playback, If you can find a way to navigate, something like Mobo Player, BS Player, or VLC Android should work.
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My bro has an xperia play, and he can use the controls to select and move around. I think that's how its going to work. When you connect a controller to your droid you can still move around using the controls some apps don't work but allot do with the controller or you can you use certain apps to "force" it to work. Plus it has a usb 2.0 port so you can use a mouse to operate it and if you want to connect more i have good feeling a usb modular hub like this one will do the job:
http://www.amazon.com/Black-4-Port-High-Speed-USB/dp/B002FFT8Z6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_3
Give it a launcher and it lives

Many other software can read any media file ( MxPlayer, Vplayer ... )
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DrROBschiz said:
The main issue with OUYA is that all existing android apps will have to be reworked to support controller/remote input
I dont think the Touch pad on the controller is going to cut it. The creator of the Mupen64 emulator sent me this:
"While originally this was planned as a separate port, having looked at the ODK more closely I've discovered that it can be pipelined inside a single APK. So the Google Play version will in fact include the OUYA port (it is now technically an expansion of the project rather than a port).
That said, there are quite a unique requirements when developing for the OUYA compared to vanilla Android. The most immediate are the lack of a touch screen for menu interfaces such as button mapping (touchpad workaround being awkward and slow), lack of Home and Back buttons on the controllers (OUYA simulating Back with a non-standard keycode), lack of a standard Android action bar and menu overflow button, and serious graphics overscan to name the big ones). Had I not purchased a devkit and actually looked into optimizing the app for the OUYA at all, the Google Play version would certainly not have worked well on the OUYA because of these problems. The most serious concerns would have been no way to access the in-game menu options for things like save-state or load-state, extremely tedious mapping the controllers, and borders of the screen being cut off."
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I would rather a few specialised apps that are developed specifically for this device over a lot of android apps "retooled" to make them work. That's why I bought this over an android initial pc.

Seems like the best thread to ask in.
Have had a look around, but can't find a definitive answer so apologise if it has been asked.
What is the story with up-scaling the android games? People now have 50-60 inch TVs, so will games just look sad on these big panels? What resolutions can we expect? 4k?

Darknessborn said:
What is the story with up-scaling the android games? People now have 50-60 inch TVs, so will games just look sad on these big panels? What resolutions can we expect? 4k?
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The games will all run at 1920x1080, native resolution for any HDTV. 50" or 60" doesn't change that.
4K is 2+ years away from being affordable and even longer away from being mainstream.

mancur said:
The games will all run at 1920x1080, native resolution for any HDTV. 50" or 60" doesn't change that.
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Agreed, but expect to notice more minor details/flaws in the big screen.
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I am getting an OUYA specifically for the XBMC capability. I am currently using a soft modded original XBOX to do this for my kids tv but would like something with an HDMI output and this fits the bill. The gaming and other apps are just an added bonus.

they haven't really said anything on the upscaling.
But I don't think it's going to be as bad as you think. Some of the games are designed for newer mobiles devices which has higher resolution screens them selves; they're just only a couple inches big. New mobiles phones have 720p displays, and tablets have 1080p. So, games may already be designed for those displays. They're just not going to super detailed because developers were making games on the screens for ten inches or smaller.
The games designed for Ouya I expect to look better since they're designed for significantly larger displays.
Just don't expect a game designed for low resolution desplays such as 4080x320 to look that great, even if they're is upscaling.

xFaultx said:
XBMC is the #1 reason I got the OUYA
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A port of Ubuntu TV to OUYA could be a nice catch.

Ouy(meh)
I got my Ouya yesterday. Like many of you, I backed the kickstarter to have a game console where I can play old NES SNES roms and watch and stream movies. As of this date I don't think the console is ready for prime time. In my two days of using it here are my pros and cons:
Pros
Able to play old games
Ability to stream music and videos
Small and quiet
Great value
Excellent customer support. Every time I write them an email they reply within 24hr or less
Cons
Unable to power unit on/off via the controller like the PS3/XBOX360
Limited launch apps and games
(currently) Does not support USB storage/expansion. EDIT 5/14/13: figured out how to access usb stick by installing ES File Explorer or Total Commander
Choppy frame rate while watching MP4 videos (via XBMC). Unbearable streaming of MKV files
Cumbersome method of sideloading apps (if you're not familiar with adb). EDIT 5/14/13: load apps/files by connecting the Ouya directly to my mac and installing Android File Transfer on my mac. I then loaded ES File Explorer and Total commander and I am able to create an FTP or LAN network with those apps to transfer files wirelessly.
Controller sticks and it feels really cheap. EDIT 5/14/13: I connected my PS3 controller so I no longer have to use the Ouya's cheap remote. It even works wirelessly.
Like all new technology I believe it will get better with time but I don't think it would ever handle MKV files smoothly

oreste191 said:
Cons
Choppy frame rate while watching MP4 videos (via XBMC). Unbearable streaming of MKV files
Like all new technology I believe it will get better with time but I don't think it would ever handle MKV files smoothly
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Oreste, are you using the libstagefright Android version of XBMC? Because from your description it doesn't sound like it.
XBMC has an alpha build that enables hardware acceleration on Android.
Try the Gotham Alpha 2 build from April 3rd. http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds/android/
It should decode 1080p mkv files smoothly. It works very well on my Nexus 7, which is running a slower version of the Tegra 3 chip that powers the Ouya.
Let us know your results.
Cheers

mancur said:
Oreste, are you using the libstagefright Android version of XBMC? Because from your description it doesn't sound like it.
XBMC has an alpha build that enables hardware acceleration on Android.
Try the Gotham Alpha 2 build from April 3rd. http://mirrors.xbmc.org/test-builds/android/
It should decode 1080p mkv files smoothly. It works very well on my Nexus 7, which is running a slower version of the Tegra 3 chip that powers the Ouya.
Let us know your results.
Cheers
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I am just using the stable build listed on xbmc.org/download. I just clicked on the Android download link. The file name is xbmc-12.2-Frodo-armeabi-v7a.apk but I will give that a try now. Should I uninstall the current apk or just override?
On a side note, I am using a PS3 controller wirelessly with the Ouya, so I am slowly liking the system more and more. I'll report back in a few after I update xbmc.

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Using Splashtop as a YouTube/VLC remote

I've been looking for ways to remote control my VLC and YouTube videos. There are apps out there, but it seems like most of them need to be completely reset every time I close and reopen the browser/viewer. So I figured I could just use a remote desktop app and control it remotely that way. I don't think I'm going to do much gaming remotely, but I do want smooth 1920x1080 play-back. Or will the N4's 1280x768 screen cause it to scale down to a lower resolution? And if so, I'm wondering which is the best app to do it. Does Splashtop THD simply not work on non-Tegra devices? And will the regular HD app be limited to 720p video playback?
I remember back when I used the app on my iPad it would re-scale the whole desktop UI when I synced it to the iPad. It was kind of annoying... And I'd like to know if it will do that again before I start buying any apps.
Wait so you're trying to watch 1080p videos on the n4? It's possible with this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529715
[MOD] YouTube 4.4.11 (v5b), *1080p* / 720p HD (over WiFi & 3G), screen off playback
Not exactly. I want to keep watching my videos on my monitor (which is 1920x1080), I just want to sit back and use my phone as a remote. By using splashtop I should be able to use all of the play/pause and other controls via remote desktop functions.
I want to make sure that running splashtop isn't going to rescale my entire desktop UI to 1280 x 768 in syncing up to my Nexus 4. Like it did the last time I tried it with an iPad. If it does do that then I probably just won't use the app, and then I'd be spending 10$ for nothing.
Oh gotcha, just tried and you can have it use your computer's native resolution :good:
Which one, the regular Splashtop HD, or Splashtop THD?
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Which one, the regular Splashtop HD, or Splashtop THD?
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just the regular version. the hd versions are only for tablets...
the hd versions show up for you in the play store? they don't for me.
I use Spashtop 2 and the only thing it does it change your Windows theme from Aero to classic. It can definitely be used as a remote.
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have you tried the official youtube remote app? i haven't tried it personally, may be it has the reset problem you mentioned so you are looking for alternatives?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC55dHJlbW90ZSJd
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the hd versions show up for you in the play store? they don't for me.
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Now that you mention it. They do show up, but they say "none of your devices are compatible with this app." Good to know, I suppose. Well that settles it I guess. Thanks for the help.
EDIT:
Well, exactly what I was worried would happen happened. The screen automatically resized to 1024x768, with big black bars on my monitor. I can bring it back to full HD without too much trouble, but I have to do so every time I start splashtop on my phone. Is there a way to change the default way it handles being thrown into splashtop? So he doesn't do that resize thing?
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Well, exactly what I was worried would happen happened. The screen automatically resized to 1024x768, with big black bars on my monitor. I can bring it back to full HD without too much trouble, but I have to do so every time I start splashtop on my phone. Is there a way to change the default way it handles being thrown into splashtop? So he doesn't do that resize thing?
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edit the settings for the connection in the app, choose advanced, select "use computer's native display resolution"
Excellent!
There's only one little issue with it, but it's not a big deal. I just find that the connection drops too quickly. It seems like the link with my desktop breaks every time my phone goes to sleep. Also I'd like it if screen-rotation would lock... (poking at tiny icons while the screen flips about is not an easy task). But those are probably things I can fix by tweaking some settings.
Thanks again for all your help guys!
Wifi mouse will let you control your pc from afar. And with vlc it has all the stuff you need
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Unified Remote is my app of choice.
As you can see, you can use inputs like a touchpad or specific remotes for YouTube, Netflix, VLC, MPC, etc (I only use mouse and Netflix, which I find to be perfect). Using an RDP or VNC client seems like a rather heavyhanded method just to emulate HIDs from your bed/sofa.
Also, I've requested that this thread be moved to Q&A. Do not posts inquiries in any other subforum. Requests are accepted in themes/apps only.

Streaming Mac Games to NVIDIA Shield, without NVIDIA GPU... Challenge completed.

Hey YouTube, In this video I will show you guys COD4 streaming on my NVIDIA shield without an NVIDIA GPU or Windows operating system. I used Splashtop 2 and GameKeyboard, both of which are available on the Google Play store for free. I have changed my controller mapping since filming this video, and I will show those to you in a later video. Sorry for not having 1080p, My export got messed up so I could only get 720p. Thanks for watching! I have at this point created an almost perfect mapping for the controls, which allows really awesome controller support. Also,this trick needs no root, as you are mapping hardkeys to specific letters rather than mapping physical keys to touchscreen controls. Hope you enjoy it! www[DOT]youtube[DOT]com/watch?v=kiCleXTRNqY
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Hey YouTube, In this video I will show you guys COD4 streaming on my NVIDIA shield without an NVIDIA GPU or Windows operating system. I used Splashtop 2 and GameKeyboard, both of which are available on the Google Play store for free. I have changed my controller mapping since filming this video, and I will show those to you in a later video. Sorry for not having 1080p, My export got messed up so I could only get 720p. Thanks for watching! I have at this point created an almost perfect mapping for the controls, which allows really awesome controller support. Also,this trick needs no root, as you are mapping hardkeys to specific letters rather than mapping physical keys to touchscreen controls. Hope you enjoy it! www[DOT]youtube[DOT]com/watch?v=kiCleXTRNqY
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Coo! is Splashtop 2 a subscription based app or Free? Client itself is free, right? i had purchased Splashtop HD for my N7, but Play store says it's not compatible with my Shield
Splashtop 2 is free. It is available on the Google Play store and is compatible with the shield. If you are not able to get it from the Google Play store, I am sure you can get it online somewhere(the .apk). If you need any help with it, you can send me a pm or just leave a reply to this post. I hope you are able to get it working!

From Ouya to Mojo

Wanted to start with saying that i've been using Ouya from all my retro needs from 6 months now, the main use for the ouya has been the Xbmc support but i occasionally play FPse, MUPEN and GSNES. I was even brave enough to try the gamestick for a week before returning it to gamestop and using the credit to purchase addiontional Ouya. Recently purchased a mojo and was really looking forward to finding out if the ps1 games would run quicker, if xbmc would run smoother when im jumping around a movie looking for favorite scenes (i use 1080p DTS files that are 10GB+ not those low bitrate YIFY files) and thought it would be awesome if i could finally connect more than one ps3 controller and even an Xbox 360 controller. A huge downfall and prehaps a dealbreaker has been the navigation soft keys that appear in most of my applications, i know this isnt completely mojos fault (i blame you google) but im really hoping they release 4.4 kitkat real soon which adds immersive mode and hides the navigation soft keys when a game or movie thats using full screen. its extremely annoying that the navigation soft keys appear when im trying to watch a 1080p movie using XBMC v13 beta1/beta2, i even went as far as to install the Ouya version of xbmc hoping that would work but it didnt. I found two applications that can hide the navigation soft keys like GMD AutoHide and full!screen but both require root, i will root my device once my usb a to a cable arrives but i feel its insane that i need to root my device just so i can hide some keys that shouldnt be there to begin with (seriously madcatz why did you need those keys visible when the controler had home and back keys). if the experience doesnt improve by using one of those two apps than im going to return the Mojo. Please reply if you have any suggestions that wouldnt require rooting my device to remove the navigation keys.
mejdam said:
Wanted to start with saying that i've been using Ouya from all my retro needs from 6 months now, the main use for the ouya has been the Xbmc support but i occasionally play FPse, MUPEN and GSNES. I was even brave enough to try the gamestick for a week before returning it to gamestop and using the credit to purchase addiontional Ouya. Recently purchased a mojo and was really looking forward to finding out if the ps1 games would run quicker, if xbmc would run smoother when im jumping around a movie looking for favorite scenes (i use 1080p DTS files that are 10GB+ not those low bitrate YIFY files) and thought it would be awesome if i could finally connect more than one ps3 controller and even an Xbox 360 controller. A huge downfall and prehaps a dealbreaker has been the navigation soft keys that appear in most of my applications, i know this isnt completely mojos fault (i blame you google) but im really hoping they release 4.4 kitkat real soon which adds immersive mode and hides the navigation soft keys when a game or movie thats using full screen. its extremely annoying that the navigation soft keys appear when im trying to watch a 1080p movie using XBMC v13 beta1/beta2, i even went as far as to install the Ouya version of xbmc hoping that would work but it didnt. I found two applications that can hide the navigation soft keys like GMD AutoHide and full!screen but both require root, i will root my device once my usb a to a cable arrives but i feel its insane that i need to root my device just so i can hide some keys that shouldnt be there to begin with (seriously madcatz why did you need those keys visible when the controler had home and back keys). if the experience doesnt improve by using one of those two apps than im going to return the Mojo. Please reply if you have any suggestions that wouldnt require rooting my device to remove the navigation keys.
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I use MX Player Pro, it's in the start up wizard http://mojo.madcatz.com/index2.html
It hides the soft keys when not moving the controller.
gwaldo said:
I use MX Player Pro, it's in the start up wizard http://mojo.madcatz.com/index2.html
It hides the soft keys when not moving the controller.
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Thanks for the suggestion but I should have added that all my content is on a synology 1812+ so I can't simply connect it through USB. I guess I could setup a nas connection using ez file manager and have MX player play the files but that is a ridiculous way to play movies. I wanted this box to replace my living room ouya but so far its looking like this box is going back to Amazon.
Rooted the mojo makes the console way better. So I would definitely do that.
I also came from the ouya and honestly would have stuck with it if wasn't for the fact of no play store. I like the mojo since it's basically android and can customize it it to my liking.
Anyway I would highly recommend rooting the mojo and using the play store mod. Then use that app to hide what you want and enjoy just how better the mojo is.
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mejdam said:
Wanted to start with saying that i've been using Ouya from all my retro needs from 6 months now, the main use for the ouya has been the Xbmc support but i occasionally play FPse, MUPEN and GSNES. I was even brave enough to try the gamestick for a week before returning it to gamestop and using the credit to purchase addiontional Ouya. Recently purchased a mojo and was really looking forward to finding out if the ps1 games would run quicker, if xbmc would run smoother when im jumping around a movie looking for favorite scenes (i use 1080p DTS files that are 10GB+ not those low bitrate YIFY files) and thought it would be awesome if i could finally connect more than one ps3 controller and even an Xbox 360 controller. A huge downfall and prehaps a dealbreaker has been the navigation soft keys that appear in most of my applications, i know this isnt completely mojos fault (i blame you google) but im really hoping they release 4.4 kitkat real soon which adds immersive mode and hides the navigation soft keys when a game or movie thats using full screen. its extremely annoying that the navigation soft keys appear when im trying to watch a 1080p movie using XBMC v13 beta1/beta2, i even went as far as to install the Ouya version of xbmc hoping that would work but it didnt. I found two applications that can hide the navigation soft keys like GMD AutoHide and full!screen but both require root, i will root my device once my usb a to a cable arrives but i feel its insane that i need to root my device just so i can hide some keys that shouldnt be there to begin with (seriously madcatz why did you need those keys visible when the controler had home and back keys). if the experience doesnt improve by using one of those two apps than im going to return the Mojo. Please reply if you have any suggestions that wouldnt require rooting my device to remove the navigation keys.
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It's odd that xbmc doesn't have a setting for making movies full screen. The Netflix app, Hulu+ app, and quite a few others I use regularly occupy the entire screen during play back.
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It's odd that xbmc doesn't have a setting for making movies full screen. The Netflix app, Hulu+ app, and quite a few others I use regularly occupy the entire screen during play back.
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I read that some applications, mostly the ones you named used tricks to achieve becoming full screen apps.
jbuggydroid said:
Rooted the mojo makes the console way better. So I would definitely do that.
I also came from the ouya and honestly would have stuck with it if wasn't for the fact of no play store. I like the mojo since it's basically android and can customize it it to my liking.
Anyway I would highly recommend rooting the mojo and using the play store mod. Then use that app to hide what you want and enjoy just how better the mojo is.
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The ouya can obtain the play store once you root it, guess its similar to the mojo that modifying is required before making the device worthwhile.
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100mb Ethernet
I setup FTP and just realized that the Mojo just like the Ouya only support FastEthernet (100mb) and not GigEthernet (1gb)
Post Root
The main purpose for this device was to have one extremely fast XBMC player and so far its Living up to everything i wanted it to be. Below i'll list some of the modifications i have made.
-MMM³ - MoDaCo Mod for MOJO (root + Play Store mod)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617242
-GMD Auto Hide or Full!Screen, removes the navigation soft keys at the bottom.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen
-TV Launcher 2.0, Gives it a more TV friendly UI.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.awe.dev.pro.tv
-Mele Pro F10, keep in mind this is a living room device where family can quickly pick up and play content.
http://www.amazon.com/Mele-F10-PRO-Wireless-Keyboard-Intelligent/dp/B00DHEUBPA/
-XBMC v13 beta 2
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Development_builds
--plugins
XBMCTorrent, XBMC version of Popcorn Time. Simple way to stream content.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=174736
mejdam said:
The main purpose for this device was to have one extremely fast XBMC player and so far its Living up to everything i wanted it to be. Below i'll list some of the modifications i have made.
-MMM³ - MoDaCo Mod for MOJO (root + Play Store mod)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617242
-GMD Auto Hide or Full!Screen, removes the navigation soft keys at the bottom.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen
-TV Launcher 2.0, Gives it a more TV friendly UI.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.awe.dev.pro.tv
-Mele Pro F10, keep in mind this is a living room device where family can quickly pick up and play content.
http://www.amazon.com/Mele-F10-PRO-Wireless-Keyboard-Intelligent/dp/B00DHEUBPA/
-XBMC v13 beta 2
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Development_builds
--plugins
XBMCTorrent, XBMC version of Popcorn Time. Simple way to stream content.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=174736
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But i wish i had Dolby Digital (AC3) and DTS in XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2, i only have stereo, see never Dolby Digital and DTS on my
Receiver, and with MX Player + DTS Codec i see Dolby Digital and DTS on my Receiver.
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But i wish i had Dolby Digital (AC3) and DTS in XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2, i only have stereo, see never Dolby Digital and DTS on my
Receiver, and with MX Player + DTS Codec i see Dolby Digital and DTS on my Receiver.
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sorry about that i gave you incorrect info use this version of xbmc
https://diegomejia.globat.com/android/Xbmc for ouya_12.3.2.apk
mejdam said:
sorry about that i gave you incorrect info use this version of xbmc
https://diegomejia.globat.com/android/Xbmc for ouya_12.3.2.apk
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Thank you for that, when i get my M.O.J.O. back i will install this version.
My M.O.J.O. whas freezing everytime, and was getting very hot, so sent it back for repair.

[Q] Local Streaming/Plex & Alternatives

Hey guys, I just pulled the trigger and bought a Nexus Player, currently im a kernel developer for the Nexus 4/5/7, will be checking into optimizing it and adding some features, but first I got a question. I know plex only works with plex pass customers, can you sideload the plex app? Looking to save some money, already bought the plex app for android and have an insanely large collection running on a Plex media server, is there any DLNA apps that are Android TV Sexy as an alternative? Getting mine in next week, can't wait
Thanks
defcon
Yes you can side load it with sideload launcher. But as far as the sexiness I would imagine its less than stellar. I've noticed most apps run great that are side loaded but the screen resolution for the apps are not optimized for the player. Meaning some apps will cut off the sides or top of the screen.
However on the plus side...
The plexpass app for the player looks and functions beautifully.
Super easy and fast to navigate.
I was very impressed with the plexpass app.
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defconoi said:
Hey guys, I just pulled the trigger and bought a Nexus Player, currently im a kernel developer for the Nexus 4/5/7, will be checking into optimizing it and adding some features, but first I got a question. I know plex only works with plex pass customers, can you sideload the plex app? Looking to save some money, already bought the plex app for android and have an insanely large collection running on a Plex media server, is there any DLNA apps that are Android TV Sexy as an alternative? Getting mine in next week, can't wait
Thanks
defcon
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What he said. The sideload version *works*, but the official version is so much better. SIdeload one doesn't show on homescreen, no 5.1 surround, no display of movies on home screen, no searchability. Official does 5.1 passthrough, can be searched from the menu, and is aesthetically perfect for the Nexus Player.
Historically, plex pass-only features make their way to the regular app after a month or two. In this case, at least for me, I am absolutely fine with paying $4 or $8 for such an amazing UI. Oh, and it does all kinds of neat category sections when browsing - "Top movies by Ivan Reitman" or "Top unwatched Comedy" if you watch a lot of comedies. It's almost netflix-like...but even better looking.
Also, if you're gonna use it...get a USB NIC adapter. Even over AC, HD streaming is laggy. Having a solid LAN connection will always trump wifi in my mind.
digitalhigh said:
What he said. The sideload version *works*, but the official version is so much better. SIdeload one doesn't show on homescreen, no 5.1 surround, no display of movies on home screen, no searchability. Official does 5.1 passthrough, can be searched from the menu, and is aesthetically perfect for the Nexus Player.
Historically, plex pass-only features make their way to the regular app after a month or two. In this case, at least for me, I am absolutely fine with paying $4 or $8 for such an amazing UI. Oh, and it does all kinds of neat category sections when browsing - "Top movies by Ivan Reitman" or "Top unwatched Comedy" if you watch a lot of comedies. It's almost netflix-like...but even better looking.
Also, if you're gonna use it...get a USB NIC adapter. Even over AC, HD streaming is laggy. Having a solid LAN connection will always trump wifi in my mind.
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Can you recommend a NIC adapter? I bought one on Amazon and it doesn't work with the Nexus Player. It's supposed to be pretty much automatic once connected, right?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KBZF20W/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1
defconoi said:
Hey guys, I just pulled the trigger and bought a Nexus Player, currently im a kernel developer for the Nexus 4/5/7, will be checking into optimizing it and adding some features, but first I got a question. I know plex only works with plex pass customers, can you sideload the plex app? Looking to save some money, already bought the plex app for android and have an insanely large collection running on a Plex media server, is there any DLNA apps that are Android TV Sexy as an alternative? Getting mine in next week, can't wait
Thanks
defcon
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I disagree with the others... I sideloaded and bought the plex pass.. IMHO, not worth the extra money... Sideloaded version works just fine.. I personally dont need the bells and whistles of searching for movies or seeing suggestions from the home screen.
You can easily see the app via Sideload Launcher... Plex works perfectly on both the sideloaded and the plex pass version.
defconoi said:
Hey guys, I just pulled the trigger and bought a Nexus Player, currently im a kernel developer for the Nexus 4/5/7, will be checking into optimizing it and adding some features, but first I got a question. I know plex only works with plex pass customers, can you sideload the plex app? Looking to save some money, already bought the plex app for android and have an insanely large collection running on a Plex media server, is there any DLNA apps that are Android TV Sexy as an alternative? Getting mine in next week, can't wait
Thanks
defcon
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I side loaded Plex for android but it pretty much unusable for me. Any of my files with DTS audio will not play with sound when forcing direct play (no transcoding). Basically audio pass through for all 5.1 formats is broke.
Kodi/xbmc works as it supposed to but that is not how I want my player to function I feel like I'm booting into another os to play my media. I want the full integration with the launcher and search. Kodi does not do this.
Lastly I have a HD homerun prime that will stream my Comcast cable to my network devices. They are working on a app but from what I have been reading there is no MPEG2 hardware decoding. Seems Asus or google didn't license the codec. Huge fail for me and has got me contemplating on retuning it. A question for you could this codec be added with a custom kernel or rom? Or is this entirely at the mercy of Asus or google? If this won't be implemented im sending it back.
I love the player interface because of it simplicity my family immediately picked it up and figured it out unlike my kodi/xbmc setups. So if I can get the updated interface Plex app with out paying a monthly subscription and mpeg2 hardware decoding support I will purchase one for every TV. Until then this device isn't cutting it for me.
Guys with Plex pass....is direct play and audio pass through for DTS working for you?
WhiteWidows said:
I side loaded Plex for android but it pretty much unusable for me. Any of my files with DTS audio will not play with sound when forcing direct play (no transcoding). Basically audio pass through for all 5.1 formats is broke.
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If you install Plex For Android, I recommend changing the layout to tv rather than mobile, then set the Device Media Profile to "External Player." If you pair that with a good video player app, you can play almost anything (even with dts) stutter-free without needing to transcode. I use MX Player with the x86 version of DTS custom codec, and all hardware decoding options enabled; works perfectly so far. Hopefully the officially supported Plex app will re-add some of these features in time; I don't understand why the ui was completely changed and most of the advanced features/options removed to "best support" the Nexus Player, when the ui of Plex For Android is working lightning fast with no major issues so far.
Ok audio passthrough works for both dts and dd?
What about direct playable video codecs? Is it like chromecast x264 only or does it support other codecs as well. I wish it played video as good as on my Samsung. Then it's a good option to our bedroom TV.
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MX Player? I have it working, but no 5.1 options.. I used the custom codec, and can play DTS, etc - but its all 2.0 - Are there no 5.1 pass through options that work? Does anything besides Netflix and Google Play even have any kind of 5.1 support?
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If you install Plex For Android, I recommend changing the layout to tv rather than mobile, then set the Device Media Profile to "External Player." If you pair that with a good video player app, you can play almost anything (even with dts) stutter-free without needing to transcode. I use MX Player with the x86 version of DTS custom codec, and all hardware decoding options enabled; works perfectly so far. Hopefully the officially supported Plex app will re-add some of these features in time; I don't understand why the ui was completely changed and most of the advanced features/options removed to "best support" the Nexus Player, when the ui of Plex For Android is working lightning fast with no major issues so far.
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I didnt know the tv layout setting existed, thanks for that suggestion!
I have a plex server and I havent been able to get 5.1 to work with plex on the NP at all yet. Things I have tried:
-Plex for Android app
-Plex for Android app + MX Player as external player, with the custom codec pack
-Plex for PlexPass Users
XBMC Gotham does work like a charm for 5.1 audio. I connected it up to my media share, enabled Passthrough and Dolby Digital (AC3) capable receiver (Settings -Advanced Settings Level- > System > Audio)
I was not using any addons, btw.
I still have not tried XBMC Helix.
I prefer Plex's Interface and the Plex Server over XBMC's setup... So has anyone else figured out 5.1 audio for Plex on the Nexus Player? For me it really is not that big of an issue, the NP will be the entertainment box for the kid's tv (no surround system) upstairs, so I dont really require 5.1 audio... but I would still like it to work, and would consider it for my main system if it did.
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MX Player? I have it working, but no 5.1 options.. I used the custom codec, and can play DTS, etc - but its all 2.0 - Are there no 5.1 pass through options that work? Does anything besides Netflix and Google Play even have any kind of 5.1 support?
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sideloaded XBMC, with passthrough enabled in settings
ok just got the NP all hooked up, its badass, much better than roku/samsung smart bluray, I sideloaded plex but pulled the trigger on one month of plexpass, I hope they make it free/integrate it into the android app but I have a feeling they will change for the nexus player app seperately or require plexpass for good... Its really nice for now though. Sideloaded Kodi and that works great too.
Does sideload launcher show the sideloaded Plex app?
For some reason that is the only app that doesnt show in the sideload launcher for me.
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Does sideload launcher show the sideloaded Plex app?
For some reason that is the only app that doesnt show in the sideload launcher for me.
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Nope gotta launch it from app settings
defconoi said:
ok just got the NP all hooked up, its badass, much better than roku/samsung smart bluray, I sideloaded plex but pulled the trigger on one month of plexpass, I hope they make it free/integrate it into the android app but I have a feeling they will change for the nexus player app seperately or require plexpass for good... Its really nice for now though. Sideloaded Kodi and that works great too.
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Glad you like it, as do I, I love the interface and voice search capabilities, but as everyone is saying its not a finished product. All I want to work right now is Plex 5.1 audio with no trans-coding, and MPEG2 hardware decoding. Then it will be perfect for my living room.
I see you said your a kernel dev, well im looking for some collaborators to get mpeg2 hw decoding working on this device. I opened a dev thread and have been trying to build ffmpeg into android x86 hoping this will enable it. So far my builds have been failing. If you can help me out drop me a pm.
Ive been going off this documentation.
https://software.intel.com/en-us/android/blogs/2013/12/06/building-ffmpeg-for-android-on-x86
Also have you herd any chatter on anyone working on a custom recover for the NP?
I have been using Kodi (formerly known as XBMC) and it works like a charm. I'm running the latest beta 2 version, so I experience a crash or two from time to time, but other than that it works wonderfully. 720p content scales up very nicely to my hd screen (even 480p). I have no issues streaming 1080p content from my NAS to the box. I have a 802.11ac network, and I have not tested it with a n network, though.

New to XDA and the Shield!

Hi everyone, just got done setting up my new Shield TV with Kodi to stream media files from my unRaid NAS! I purchased the Shield because my old WDTV Live was dying and there did not appear to be many options for media boxes that could stream network content without transcoding with Plex or similar. My unRaid server uses a very old Atom CPU and doesn't have the horsepower to transcode 720p video or above.
Setting up Kodi was pretty easy, although it wasn't able to install it from the Play store. I had to go the route of loading the APK from a USB stick. All of my networked media seems to play flawlessly!
So now onto my question, what is everyone using their Shield for? I've got mine in the bedroom and I'm curious to see what else I can do with it. Out of all my Android games (I have a lot because I've gone through 3 android phones and 2 android tablets) only Wayward Souls was available for Android TV. I some experience with PS1 and SNES emulators from my tablet, but it seems the Shield is much more capable.
My general household includes 2 android phones, an android tablet, a gaming PC with an nvidia graphics card, the unraid server, and an HTPC in the living room. Solid AC Wifi connection between the Shield and the rest of the network.
Throw some ideas at me - what else should I do with the Shield?
Welcome.
I'm using my Shield as a main media center hooked up to my TV in the living room.
I do some android gaming sometimes, but there aren't enough titles i like (hoping this will change)
once nop releases the NTFS and samba kernel, i'm planning to use it as a NAS with a 2.5" usb 3.0 hdd connected to it.
RetroboxTV is pretty sweet for game emulation.
We use our Shield as our primary media device. It does everything we want minus native WatchESPN. We have an hdhomerun prime that we use with the Live Channels app for live TV.
We have a 2 TB external HDD hooked up with movies and TV shows that we watch through Kodi.
What else are you looking for?
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Get sideload launcher, it will give you a wider range of apps you can run. You can also install amazon underground (first download and install the Chrome .apk to browse to it). IMO, ES file explorer provides a lot of the network search functions that I used to use Kodi for, so that removes some software layers. MXPLayer seems to be the most capable video player I've tested.
Mount as fileshare
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Welcome.
I'm using my Shield as a main media center hooked up to my TV in the living room.
I do some android gaming sometimes, but there aren't enough titles i like (hoping this will change)
once nop releases the NTFS and samba kernel, i'm planning to use it as a NAS with a 2.5" usb 3.0 hdd connected to it.
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Hey can you help me out? I cannot figure out how to mount a network share into the filesystem.. ive tried using cifsmanager and tutorials but to no avail. can you please help?
just ordered my Shield TV
Relatively new here, roamed forums and maybe posted once or twice. Just ordered my NVidia shield tv and cant wait to get my hands on it! One question that I have yet to get a concrete answer to is can you run amazon prime video on it? Currently have an AFTV second gen and love it but always wanted more power out of it. Think im good with the shield tv but I do need to have prime video. Can someone give me a concrete answer? I've read through tons of threads out there and seems some people say you can while I've read others who say its a no go. HELP PLEASE!!!
P.S. thank you in advance!!!!
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Relatively new here, roamed forums and maybe posted once or twice. Just ordered my NVidia shield tv and cant wait to get my hands on it! One question that I have yet to get a concrete answer to is can you run amazon prime video on it? Currently have an AFTV second gen and love it but always wanted more power out of it. Think im good with the shield tv but I do need to have prime video. Can someone give me a concrete answer? I've read through tons of threads out there and seems some people say you can while I've read others who say its a no go. HELP PLEASE!!!
P.S. thank you in advance!!!!
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You CAN run prime video. However, the current workaround will not give you you 1080p (or 4K). You'll be limited to 720p. http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/amazon-prime-video-demand-android-tv-t3278778
OK everyone so I've been using my Shield for a bit now and here are my quick thoughts. I haven't rooted or installed ROMs or done anything else. The most complicated thing I've done is put APKs on a flash drive and clicked "OK" in ES File Explorer to install them. I've also had to use a computer with the Play store to install a few games/apps.
1) ES File Explorer is OK but the user interface is very difficult to navigate (not intuitive)
2) Getting a PS1 and SNES emulator up and running were easy
3) Netflix, PBS, and CBS Sports are the only native video streaming apps I can get to work because I have Comcast/Xfinity and they hate Android TV. However, CBS Sports is only clips, not full programming, I find that pretty useless.
4) HBO Go and Showtime Anytime work with built in app casting functionality from my Android phone
5) Fox Sports Go works by casting my phone through Android (not within the app)
6) There are very few games in the Play store that seem to support Shield TV. So far I've only got Wayward Souls and Reaper.
Questions:
1) I've got Retro Arch and Arc Browser installed because I read about them a lot. However, I can't figure out what to actually do with either of those apps.
2) What other Android/play store games?
3) What other video streaming services (I have Comcast/Xfinity)
4) What emulator next? I'm thinking PSP would be good... anything else?
5) Any other apps or cool uses I should look at?
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OK everyone so I've been using my Shield for a bit now and here are my quick thoughts. I haven't rooted or installed ROMs or done anything else. The most complicated thing I've done is put APKs on a flash drive and clicked "OK" in ES File Explorer to install them. I've also had to use a computer with the Play store to install a few games/apps.
1) ES File Explorer is OK but the user interface is very difficult to navigate (not intuitive)
2) Getting a PS1 and SNES emulator up and running were easy
3) Netflix, PBS, and CBS Sports are the only native video streaming apps I can get to work because I have Comcast/Xfinity and they hate Android TV. However, CBS Sports is only clips, not full programming, I find that pretty useless.
4) HBO Go and Showtime Anytime work with built in app casting functionality from my Android phone
5) Fox Sports Go works by casting my phone through Android (not within the app)
6) There are very few games in the Play store that seem to support Shield TV. So far I've only got Wayward Souls and Reaper.
Questions:
1) I've got Retro Arch and Arc Browser installed because I read about them a lot. However, I can't figure out what to actually do with either of those apps.
2) What other Android/play store games?
3) What other video streaming services (I have Comcast/Xfinity)
4) What emulator next? I'm thinking PSP would be good... anything else?
5) Any other apps or cool uses I should look at?
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1) There is a touchpad on the bottom of the game controller. It's hidden, but if you run your finger over the gray area above the volume control it should respond as a mouse pointer. That should help you navigate some apps easier.
2) Implosion (play store), Sonic CD & Goat Simulator (Chrome.apk -> Amazon underground -> amazon Apps), and some of the more ambitious MMO like War Thunder and Vendetta should work well.
3) HBOGo should work from your phone by casting, as will a lot of other video apps. FoxNow, WatchESPN, NBC, xfinity TV Go are some others I've tested successfully.
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5) sideload launcher if you don't already have it. Kodi is good for live TV from external devices (i.e. HDHomeRun Connect), but I've always found its navigation to be more complicated than it needs to be.

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