[Q] Control Android TV stick with Android Smartphone/Tablet - Android Stick & Console RockChip based Computers

For now it doesn´t matter if it only works with certain combinations of Stick and Smartphone/Tablet
I just want to know if it is even possible.
With Control I mean that I can see the same screen that runs on my TV on my Phone/Tablet, because I am thinking about buying a Nexus 7
and those stupid things don´t support Video output in any way
Hopefully somebody can answer me this question
As always i´m sorry for my bad english :cyclops:

I use the mk 802 III remote free from the play store to control my unrooted mk809. Works fine. If your stick is rooted, then droidmote on the play store also seems good, but I've not tried it yet. For this one you download a server app on the stick (paid) and a free contoller app to your device.
You don't get a mirror of the stick display on your phone - it basically turns your phone screen into a touchpad which controls a mouse pointer on screen - similar to a touchpad for a laptop. The only thing for the mk802 app is you need to keep switching modes for operating the pointer and operating a scroll function. Easier to do than explain, and its fine once you get used to it.
There are also remotes for xbmc if you decide to go that route (and why not!) which are a bit easier to use with that app.
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DroidMote, is not only a keyboard, a mouse, a multi-touch touchpad and a real controller with six axis and 16 buttons, with DroidMote you can play also with all multi-touch-only games even if you don't have a touch screen or your device is hooked to the tv
And with the last versions you can use also your hardware controller via DroidMote Client to play all multi-touch-only games
DroidMote Client control Android, Windows and Linux
Look this playlist for know almost all potential:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2E8D73B9D757086B
the latest videos refer to the latest versions

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[Q] Gaming on the transformer

I have a little question:
Is it possible to play games on the transformer through a remote-desktop app such as teamviewer? And with possible I mean is the quality acceptable, is it fluent, is the keyboard-dock usable etc. and with games I mean stuff like Call of Duty, World of Warcraft etc.
So, anyone has an answer to this...?
it is if your connection is good enough. Screen is sort of small though.
Pretty sure you're gonna end up padding someone's k/d ratio if you try to play CoD this way, as well as failing miserably in arena/raiding. Questing and instances should be ok though, but its not going to be nearly as good via a remote client as it would be if you were right there. Also, i havent tried to reconfigure it, if its even possible, but in android the there is no right click so the RDP/VNC clients all interpret right clicks as the back button, so good luck trying to ADS in CoD using right click...but i guess you can work around it by mapping it to a key instead.
I hope it works out for you better than it did me =P
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Could be neat to try the onlive gaming service lol
So what I understand from here is that you have tried but the biggest problem is not being able to right-click? Also I'm aware that the quality will not be as good as on your normal pc would be, but I just wanted to know if it's playable.
Does anyone know a remote-desktop app that let's you configure the right-click key? I know it's probably possible since teamviewer let's you use some other keys like ins and home that your Android device normally doesn't have, but I haven't found an option for right-clicking yet.
Edit: by the way, I don't have a transformer (yet) that's why I can't test it out myself. One of the things that will decide whether or not I'm getting one is this factor, so I hope you guys can help me .
yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cdfsf0BSGA
That's just what I've been wanting to see, thanks!
I'm sure that's laggy in real life, and I'm sure it's not ideal, but at least we know it's possible, and not just a slideshow.
This made me smile...
Thanks!
Anyone gotten the scuum emulator to work on it yet?
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Anyone gotten the scuum emulator to work on it yet?
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Sure....I've managed to get monkey island 1 and 2, sam and max and broken sword all working pretty well. Just have to download the relevant plug ins from the market and providing you have the necessary files from the original games you're good to go.
Still one question... Is it possible to configure an easy right-click button?? (Most ideal would be the possibility to actually right-click with an external mouse instead of going back)
Perhaps I'm missing something, but does anyone know how to get input from the keyboard dock to go to a game via Splashtop, or if it's possible? Every game I've tried will take touchpad/mouse input, but nothing on the keyboard.
I just got confirmation from someone that my idea does work and it's playable without any noticeable lag.
There are 2 problems though:
1. Full-screen doesn't work, so you have to find a way to play it in window-mode
2. The mouse input isn't complete. What I understand is that in the game Duke Nukem Forever you can't move the screen with your mouse, what makes the game rather useless on the transformer. However, I have seen some videos of call of duty where the mouse input does work, so I'm not sure what's the problem here.
Anyone has a solution for this? Maybe something for a transformer dev?
dr0ne57 said:
Perhaps I'm missing something, but does anyone know how to get input from the keyboard dock to go to a game via Splashtop, or if it's possible? Every game I've tried will take touchpad/mouse input, but nothing on the keyboard.
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I definitely played just a little bit of Transformers War for Cybertron and was able to use the keyboard!
I have had mixed results with trying to play games. Some games work in fullscreen, even though it says they can't (I was able to play Guild Wars this way). Unreal Tournament 3 and Sacred 2 were a no go though. It would just stop streaming when I launched them.
There is some slight lag no matter what, even on the desktop, and that is with me sitting 10 feet from my router and my PC wired, not wireless, to help reduce lag. Some say it is indiscernible, but I definitely notice. Overall I find this setup to be playable for MMO games like Aion, Guild Wars, etc, but not instant action games where the half a second ping can miss you a shot. Just my opinion.
P.S. I love playing games using my PS3 controller in bluetooth mode with the PC in the other room! (I'm using MotioninJoy on my PC so I can play Gamecube games on my Transformer)
@ryukeima
You're the first person I heard complaining about lang, so maybe it's your Internet connection?
Anyone here plays the game league of legende? I want to know some more about that game on the transformer .
I've played Civ 5 and The Witcher on my tablet using the included Splashtop. It wasn't too bad, but I don't know that I would do it on a regular basis. The play experience was good enough for me to believe that if someone came out with remote desktop software with this use in mind it would be very playable (Hey, if the Wii U can do it, I should be able to pull it off with my monster gaming PC and the Transformer, which has to be better than the tablet Nintendo is using).
Splashtop's user interface is a little weird which causes issues. I think I am going to try the Citrix ZenDesktop and see if it works out better.
AS A SIDE NOTE, I looked at PocketCloud remote desktop software for this use as well, but only the RDP protocol on PocketCloud supports sound and if you are running Windows Home edition (even Premium) you don't have an RDP server. The VNC protocol in PocketCloud does not support sound.
Is something like this hard to make? If not, then xda could maybe start developing their own remote desktop app with this idea in mind...?
bluejay2345 said:
I've played Civ 5 and The Witcher on my tablet using the included Splashtop. It wasn't too bad, but I don't know that I would do it on a regular basis. The play experience was good enough for me to believe that if someone came out with remote desktop software with this use in mind it would be very playable (Hey, if the Wii U can do it, I should be able to pull it off with my monster gaming PC and the Transformer, which has to be better than the tablet Nintendo is using).
Splashtop's user interface is a little weird which causes issues. I think I am going to try the Citrix ZenDesktop and see if it works out better.
AS A SIDE NOTE, I looked at PocketCloud remote desktop software for this use as well, but only the RDP protocol on PocketCloud supports sound and if you are running Windows Home edition (even Premium) you don't have an RDP server. The VNC protocol in PocketCloud does not support sound.
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As far as I could see, RDP dosen't do DirecX, so no games at all. At least on XP.
Anyway... it seems to me that Splashtop uses the same idea behind Sony's Remote Play! It's essentially an audio/video stream with inputs going the other way.
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[Q] *WINDOWS* keyboard/mouse application

Hey just wondering I've set up my Windows PC to my TV which is about 10ft away from TV, and I play media through XBMC which is on the TV and use the dedicated Android application for it.
I'm looking to take it a little bit further though, and use the A500 tablet as a keyboard and touchpad for just doing other things on the PC while using the TV.
I've come across a few applications which use software on the PC to communicate with the tablet and send/receive keystrokes and touch input for mouse which is fine but all the apps I've played with so far if you use the keyboard bit the touchpad goes away, and you have to press another button to switch to the touchpad, and same with when using the touchpad you can't use the keyboard at the same time, I was wondering if anyone has come across an application that can show both at the same time without having to hide one or the other when using one of them.
I am not home right now to see if using the touchpad and kb at the same time works, but I use TeamViewer. I cannot see a reason you need both the kb and touchpad functionality at the same time.

Games on Android stick computers

So far, I have observed that few games are not working on MK-808. Few such games not working are temple run, bad piggies, talking tom, silibili etc.
As per my understanding, many games are configured such that it requires larger touch to operate than mouse courser can provide. Hence, these games are not able to take input with mouse.
Can someone find solution?
Yesterday tried pitfall and same issue....
I am not developer / software guy...so don't know how to fix it myself...
In droidmote, this issue is resolved by increasing pointer size...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6bAMUUWg0
I don't want to use my android mobile as mouse...
I want someone patch this feature in default ROM or make some app, so that I can use my RC12 mouse to operate these games...
So far, I have found this stick fantastic except only this issue which is creating game compatibility issue...
I believe it's serious issue but should not be very difficult to resolve...as already done in droidmote app
Problem game MK808B
Hello, I have the same problem. Please anybody, how to fix problem.
Thanks.
You would have to ask each developer to update their app to support other input methods besides touch screens.
lion2 said:
You would have to ask each developer to update their app to support other input methods besides touch screens.
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Don't sweat the simple stuff. You had to obviously know that some games just won't be playable without a touchscreen.
With the rise of Android sticks and Ouya coming... controller support will become the norm. Remember official controller support only JUST started to become mainstream (even though some of us have been doing it for years).
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The best games for such devices are One-Button games
on my Equiso, i play Canabalt and Jetpack Joyride. these two awesome games need only one button to control the actions. or games that doesn't require multi-touch the whole time, i play also Tapped Out (the simpsons game) and it works flawlessly. just stay away from arcade games like where you need to get moving and jumping and shooting at the same time.
i'm always searching for new ones and it's not easy.
hi
I have installed the finless 1.7 and bad piggies works well with the rktools app on my tablet or S3 to control my android tv. Also other games (in particular mame and n64oid) work superb with a wired xbox controller.
Only game i have had issues with is templerun 3 - i cant seem to get the gyro to work . Annoying but not the end of the world
I have read good thing about droidmote - i might buy that to see if that is any better.
Andy
andyfletcher said:
hi
I have installed the finless 1.7 and bad piggies works well with the rktools app on my tablet or S3 to control my android tv. Also other games (in particular mame and n64oid) work superb with a wired xbox controller.
Only game i have had issues with is templerun 3 - i cant seem to get the gyro to work . Annoying but not the end of the world
I have read good thing about droidmote - i might buy that to see if that is any better.
Andy
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You mean you have installed Finless 1.7 ROM on MK-808, because I PM finless and he said he requires lots of work to solve this issue so he has not planned to take care this issue.
If his own 1.7 ROM automatically resolves this matter, he should be aware of it.
Also, does it work without rktools, I mean with mouse?
One more question,
1.7 is not meant for MK-808 device. So, is it OK to use it?
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It is the RKRemoteControl that is making possible to play games and not ROM.
Some update here
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread....on-SS808-(MK808)&p=52013&viewfull=1#post52013
Hi,
Mine is a cheap one that i got off ebay. i think it is mk809 or ug802. But it works well with XBMC (SD only) and a ton of emulator games that i have tried.
The RKRemote app is bundled with the finless 1.7 package. This remote app does not work on the standard rom and neither does the xbox controller. But both remote app and controller work really well on the finless rom. Still struggling to get gyro working though.
Andy

[Q] Ouya IR remote options

I'd like to know about remote options, specifically for use with XBMC. I don't have a Ouya yet, I just pre-ordered this week.
I have a bluetooth mouse already, but would like something a bit easier to use for simple pause/play/volume changes on XBMC.
Would a USB IR receiver that shows up as an HID device be compatible with the version of Android on the Ouya? Something like this?
http://dx.com/p/multimedia-ir-remote-controller-with-usb-receiver-for-pc-1-cr2025-26368
Apparently it should show up as a keyboard/mouse, according reviews.
Has anyone tried using the controller as a remote for XBMC functions? How well does that work? It seems the ergonomics would make it difficult to use.
So, I'm responding to my own thread. It seems that as long as the USB IR receiver shows up as a keyboard/mouse, you can map the XBMC keys to what ever the remote uses.
While reading about this, I noticed some posts from Windows Media Center users who apparently need to use remotes that are certified for WMC in order to perform all the functions. *Sigh* I'm so glad there are things like XBMC, things written by people who are dedicated to making useful products.
I hope I can use a WMC remote as I have 2 and my WMC PC is dead.
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Let us know if you get one that works. I would love to have a remote that works.
coachclass said:
I'd like to know about remote options, specifically for use with XBMC. I don't have a Ouya yet, I just pre-ordered this week.
I have a bluetooth mouse already, but would like something a bit easier to use for simple pause/play/volume changes on XBMC.
Would a USB IR receiver that shows up as an HID device be compatible with the version of Android on the Ouya? Something like this?
http://dx.com/p/multimedia-ir-remote-controller-with-usb-receiver-for-pc-1-cr2025-26368
Apparently it should show up as a keyboard/mouse, according reviews.
Has anyone tried using the controller as a remote for XBMC functions? How well does that work? It seems the ergonomics would make it difficult to use.
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Do you own an android phone or tablet? If so then a controller app is way more convenient imo for managing xbmc. I use yatse. It's better than the ouya controller as it has a lot of neat shortcuts. I use it for xbmc on my Windows machine too. The only negative thing is that volume control doesn't work in the xbmc build that works on the ouya. It probably will further on.
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Using the OUYA controller in XBMC isn't too bad, although I found the Official XBMC Controller App to work really well, too.
Truthfully I'm satisfied with using my phone for extended use and the controller for quick stuff. If i had a bluetooth or HID controller I'd probably use it, but I wouldn't go out and buy one for the OUYA.
On a side note, I was looking for an app that works with the OUYA itself and not JUST XBMC. I'm assuming that's what yatse is that Mertzi mentioned, so I'll probably be trying that.
EDIT: I realized yatse is a XBMC controller, is there such a thing as an app that can be used as a universal bluetooth controller?
why not just get a blue tooth remote instead. You won't need some IR dongle uglying the place up then. And even better it doesn't require line of site.
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Do you own an android phone or tablet? If so then a controller app is way more convenient imo for managing xbmc.
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I have both a phone and a tablet. I know you can use them to control the Ouya, but it's far less convenient than a remote control. I guess it comes down to personal preference.
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why not just get a blue tooth remote instead. You won't need some IR dongle uglying the place up then. And even better it doesn't require line of site.
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I've thought about using the PS3 remote, but I read some issues with connectivity and having to reboot the Ouya. Have you had any experience with a bleutooth remote, either the PS3 one or some other model?
coachclass said:
I have both a phone and a tablet. I know you can use them to control the Ouya, but it's far less convenient than a remote control. I guess it comes down to personal preference.
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Of course, everything is subjective, it was just a tip and why I said imo. I love that I can scroll through my library on my phone, both in file mode or category mode like I have for e.g. tv shows and start it from my phone without having to navigate anything at all in XBMC itself. Swipe from left > tv shows > choose show > click on episode and it starts playing. I agree that a controller app is inconvenient if you want to use it for navigating in xbmc, cause then you have to look up and down all the time between your tv and phone's screen. That's why yatse is great, you don't have to look on your tv until what you want to watch has started playing.
coachclass said:
... I've thought about using the PS3 remote, but I read some issues with connectivity and having to reboot the Ouya. Have you had any experience with a bleutooth remote, either the PS3 one or some other model?
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I hadn't thought about it. I wasn't really planning on using the Ouya for media. Thus, I haven't tried it. I don't have the Ouya setup right now. I'll try to remember, and tinker more with it this weekend. I do have a PS3 remote. I can also try syncing my Logitech DiNovo Mini that I use with my HTPC and see what happens.
I have an AirMouse I got from Amazon. It has a thumb keyboard and a gyro mouse cursor like a WiiMote. Works great. The cool thing is that its rechargeable and has a built in IR remote on the back for basic stuff like Power, Chan+/-, and Vol+/-. I think I paid like $15 for it.
That would serve multiple purposes.
Update:
Here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/iPazzPort-2-4...=UTF8&qid=1372394393&sr=1-2&keywords=airmouse
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Look up FLIRC and you'll be happy.
Little keyboard emulating IR dongle that you can program to use any remote.
Update: The WMC remote receiver Is not working on the OUYA.
The Old One said:
Update: The WMC remote receiver Is not working on the OUYA.
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the receiver and the remote from ZOTAC works... kinda.... I cant get my USB UIRT to work with the zotac remote tho, would be gr8 if the uirt could work well with ouya. Thats all Im missing to have a complete living room being controlled by my 10" tablet. Bought a Griffin beacon for the soul purpus of that.
If any1 gets the uirt to receive and work on ouya properly i´d love to know how u did.
MCE Remote and IR work in OUYA XBMC app perfect for me. What doesn't work is the "O" button to select the XBMC app from the OUYA dashboard. But I can navigate the dashboard with the MCE Remote's mouse type pad and arrow buttons fine. It's power button also works like OUYA's center button.
Anyone have a good free android app to program the OUYA controller buttons into the MCE?
Shiftone said:
Look up FLIRC and you'll be happy.
Little keyboard emulating IR dongle that you can program to use any remote.
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Thanks. Just ordered one !!
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can someone with CWM as recovery and a remote check and see if the remote works in CWM?
tjsooley said:
can someone with CWM as recovery and a remote check and see if the remote works in CWM?
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My remote works in CWM
FWBase said:
My remote works in CWM
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Thanks, What remote do you have?
Fully functional?
IE: can navigate and select things from the menu?
tjsooley said:
Thanks, What remote do you have?
Fully functional?
IE: can navigate and select things from the menu?
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I use Flirc (beta firmware) with a Harmony One. The remote I programmed as a Revue (Google TV).
CWM works simply because Flirc acts as a keyboard. no problem navigating, selecting, etc.
Android apps is a bit more work. I used a guide* on forum flirc as a starting point.
* I can not post website link, google "[GUIDE] Flirc getting to work with OUYA"

Any way to get a Android TV like experience?

Currently it's kinda hard to navigate because it's not possible to type with joycons. Apps like YouTube are also impossible to use in docked mode. Does anyone already experimented a bit and got a better experience?
You could try to remote control your switch with your smartphone.
Something like DroidMote should work. I might try DroidMote myself but the Server app is paid and I don't really want to add my Google account to the switch (I am not using GAPPS on switch). Maybe buying it on my phone, backing up with Titanium Backup and restoring it on the switch will do the trick.
You *may* be able to get an android tv bluetooth remote and connect it. I have not tried.
Kodi can give you a great dashboard for an htpc setup with a custom theme. You can even have it auto launch when you boot into android so you never see the android interface just a nice tv setup. That's how I have my Android tv boxes. I use one of these style remotes as well for the keyboard:
https://www.amazon.com/ILEBYGO-Back...e+tv+keyboard&qid=1564503866&s=gateway&sr=8-4
You will want to use Android TV apps for landscape apps like youtube etc.
I use one of these when it's in docked mode. Just have the dongle plugged into the dock and you have an easy to use mouse and keyboard.
https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Rii-Wireless-Keyboard-Raspberry/dp/B00Z81U3YY
Try hal launcher and the leakback keyboard.
sorry for kidnapping your thread, but when you use docked mode, does it go to fullscreen? Mine stays with black bars up and down... would say that it's not outputting the correct resolution...
Just want to recommend airscreen so you can use it as a Chromecast.
Replace the default launcher with TV Launcher or HALauncher. Use a blue tooth or wireless keyboard until the soft keyboard get fix. The current Amazon Fire TV remote can be paired using blue tooth and works with this android build.
I think would be great if someone with more experience could port this solution https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByIKEmoQi-hpYXBpbV9Sb3JFeVk
It is way to convert Shield Tablet into Android TV Shield. I've found this pdf with guide and files in zips folder. It obviously doesn't flash because Lineage has different file structure, but maybe it doesn't require much tweaking. It would be great, because it comes with Chromecast support and there are plenty Android TV apps which require full Android TV structure.
The scripts itself seems compatable, the only thing that needs proper porting would be TV Gapps. If anyone can port these successfully let me know.
Think it shouldn't be to hard to transform the OS into a Android TV. Just don't have a Switch to play with it, but i really like the Idea... Think i will grab a Switch around Christmas and make it happen...
is it technically possible to implement framerate switching and widevine level 1 support for drm protected content playback in hd in the switch android port?
see my questions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ni...wers/to-change-tv-refreshrate-docked-t3992615
i'm really curious about that.
would be awesome to watch stuff with the proper refreshrate for smooth playback and the drm protected content in hd in docked mode

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