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My academic friends use Ipads with retina screens for reading PDF journal articles and ebooks. They rave on about how great the screen is and the annotating apps the ipad has. Though I'm no apple-fanboy and don't want be made a prisoner!
When the Note 10.1 with a wacom stylus appeared I thought at last! Though will the screen res be good enough for reading pdf articles for many hours? I would want to avoid zooming in/out. When in a shop while the screen looks fine, it's difficult to know what it will feel like after long term use. When I look at an ipad I can see a difference in how smaller fonts are displayed more sharply, though I don't know if it will really matter (less tired eyes/much easier to read?).
I know this can be subjective and personal (my eyesight is fine for reading), but if anyone has used the 10.1 for long periods of reading, I'd be really interested in hearing about your experience how it feels, (and esp if you've used an Ipad 3/4 too!).
[EDIT:] I will be using it for annotating PDFs too
Thanks
I use the note 10.1 for reading a lot, and have no problems reading for longer periods.
My brother has an ipad 3 retina, and while that screen is sharper, the difference is not that big.
If you want to annotate pdfs, the s-pen is waaaaay more accurate then any capacitative pen.
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Note is better becoz of the pen.. it helps not only in annotating but clipping parts of the notes too..
I consistently get around 10hrs of screen on time when reading pdf 's ..
YOu should check out the premium features that are possible with s-pen..
Screen is fine. You should get the note because of the pen. I have replaced pen and paper as a physics/ math student.
No problems with the note. I hate capacitive stylii that you have to use with most tablets, including the Ipads. I suspect the features of your note, if you buy one, will make your Ipad toting friens jealous.
In terms of eye comfort, nothing beats e-ink.
The paper like display technology requires no blacklight, and thus is far less straining for your eyes.
But a 10" e-ink device is expensive.
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Screen is fine. You should get the note because of the pen.
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At 147 PPI the Note's display isn't going to win any awards. In its favor, it's bright, has good contrast, and vibrant colors. On text you'll notice the lack of resolution. The smaller the text the more you'll notice. You won't notice it on pics and video but that's not what you're asking. To me, the additional features of the Note make living with 147 PPI acceptable. But it doesn't make me like it when compared to 1080P+ tablets. I'd strongly suggest you go play with one and get a PDF loaded on it that's similar to what you'll likely be using. You can either download it from somewhere or sneak in your own microSD. Make sure the brightness is set to what you'll mostly use as the higher the brightness the more pixelated text looks. I wouldn't trade my Note for anything other than a Note with a FHD display so I'm by no means bashing it. But the display is what it is.
I'm a physics grad student so I use the Note for reading and taking notes daily. It doesn't strain my eyes or anything, and I think it has better contrast and brightness than my previous tablet (it certainly feels that way). Of course, I don't read with my tablet 5 inches from my face (okay, I do, but only when I reddit; I read from a reasonable distance when I'm reading actual documents) so I don't know if the resolution might bother you.
As for annotating PDFs, the Apple store supposedly has better apps for that, but then you'll be forced to used either your finger or the capacitative stylus. Having tried to taking notes with a cap. stylus on my previous tablet (the asus transformer), I can definitively say that using the wacom stylus on the Note is a complete game-changer in that sense. The best cap. stylus I used was the Adonit Jot Pro, and even that one was complete and utter crap compared to using the Note stylus.
So basically, I'd say that if your only use of a tablet was to read PDFs, you might be better off with the newest iPad or one of the e-ink readers because it will either have better resolution or e-ink is supposed to be easier to read on. Otherwise, if you think you might want to mark up some PDFs or maybe do some note-taking, your best choice at this moment would be this Galaxy Note tablet.
I do not yet have a Note. I will be getting one and am not particularly worried.
For 10 years I used a CRT monitor was at a resolution close to the Note. I read more from paper books but that was before e-books existed as such. Still I did read a lot.
Since then I have been reading from a 1440x900 27" monitor. The lions share of my reading has been from that monitor. Fiction, technical stuff, web pages( news). There is no reason to believe that the Note will be too low a resolution for me, and I am in my low 50s, a time when eyesight starts going.
Let me also note that technical devices always involve tradeoffs. A car might have a lot fo horsepower, but at the expense of gas mileage. A larger TV draws more power. The SPen being "a real pen" needs more CPU power, it needs more RAM, so does a retina display. To have both, you are going to need a tablet that cost $1500. Your choice, but to me the better control of a pen over what is a "prosthetic finger" is worth it.
As a final note, I would observe that the resolution of a Note is sufficient to read for long hours, but you can be distracted by it. However if you are distracted, it's because you want to be distracted and if the Note doesn't do it, something else will.
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Hello
My academic friends use Ipads with retina screens for reading PDF journal articles and ebooks. They rave on about how great the screen is and the annotating apps the ipad has. Though I'm no apple-fanboy and don't want be made a prisoner!
When the Note 10.1 with a wacom stylus appeared I thought at last! Though will the screen res be good enough for reading pdf articles for many hours? I would want to avoid zooming in/out. When in a shop while the screen looks fine, it's difficult to know what it will feel like after long term use. When I look at an ipad I can see a difference in how smaller fonts are displayed more sharply, though I don't know if it will really matter (less tired eyes/much easier to read?).
I know this can be subjective and personal (my eyesight is fine for reading), but if anyone has used the 10.1 for long periods of reading, I'd be really interested in hearing about your experience how it feels, (and esp if you've used an Ipad 3/4 too!).
Thanks
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get a real ereader (e-ink) if you dont need colors. You are going to kill your eyes if you read on the Note 10.1 for hours.
This one has a 9.7" screen: http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wirele...UTF8&qid=1358916393&sr=8-4&keywords=kindle+dx
Im not an apple fan at all. Having said that i gave serious consideration to the pad before getting my note 10.1. The reason I went for the note was simply this. Productivity! I read a lot and want to be able to mark up effortlessly and clip things etc. Last night i clipped a part from a video & posted it on FB (it converts into a still but gives you some idea of the power). Multiscreen, an excellent pen - Snote (which i love) an excellent tool. The versatility and productivity capabilities of the note helped make my mind up. I did notice the difference between displays. productivity won the day for me.
On the pleasure side you cant beat playing a video while surfing/playing a game like angry birds at the same time.
Battery life is also very good - im not a heavy user as yet - im still learning all about this note :good:!
If you are just going to read - get the ipad. If you just want to surf the net & read PDF's and respond to an email - juts get the ipda. If you want more productivity then get the note.
I haven't been disappointed.
The note has a choice of 3 default screen settings, Dynamic, Normal, and Cinema. Most people forget this fact, but it makes a BIG difference when using it for various different things.
I've said this before, but most stores which sell BOTH usually have the Note screen set to the worst possible setting for its environment. Bear this in mind when testing in store.
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Just to say a big thanks to those of you who replied in this thread. All your feedback has been really useful! I plan to go to a shop to check things out further.
cheers
Just played around with a friends ipad 4. Although the screed was very slightly clearer it was only noticeable on specific web pages when zoomed in all the way. Way closer than you would have it for reading. He was more impressed with my notes color reproduction than I was with his retina screen.
So yes I noticed a difference but only in situations that were not consistent with real world use.
Then we were both taking notes me with spen and he with capacitive stylus and there was no comparisson. Spen was so much better. It was like I had a ballpoint and he had a dull crayon
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The note is definitely the best device if you want to read and annotate PDFs. The spen is way better than any capacitive stylus. If you just want to read ebooks though, go with an eink device.
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The note has a choice of 3 default screen settings, Dynamic, Normal, and Cinema. Most people forget this fact, but it makes a BIG difference when using it for various different things.
I've said this before, but most stores which sell BOTH usually have the Note screen set to the worst possible setting for its environment. Bear this in mind when testing in store.
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What mode is best for reading PDFs and Web surfing?
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At 147 PPI the Note's display isn't going to win any awards. In its favor, it's bright, has good contrast, and vibrant colors. On text you'll notice the lack of resolution. The smaller the text the more you'll notice. You won't notice it on pics and video but that's not what you're asking. To me, the additional features of the Note make living with 147 PPI acceptable. But it doesn't make me like it when compared to 1080P+ tablets. I'd strongly suggest you go play with one and get a PDF loaded on it that's similar to what you'll likely be using. You can either download it from somewhere or sneak in your own microSD. Make sure the brightness is set to what you'll mostly use as the higher the brightness the more pixelated text looks. I wouldn't trade my Note for anything other than a Note with a FHD display so I'm by no means bashing it. But the display is what it is.
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I got a chance to compare the Note 10.1 with an Ipad 4 for reading a pdf file. I used a typical academic journal article (Times font, so bit more difficult to display). In portrait, the Note struggled to display the file clearly, because of the relatively small font size - it wasn't comfortably readable; in landscape it was better, though not perfect. In comparison, the Ipad retina screen displayed the pdf almost like it was in print. In portrait while font was still smallish, it was quite readable, and in landscape it was perfect. The Ipad won hands down (and I really did not want it to!)
Though for annotating, the Note blew me away with its handwriting recognition. My writing is so bad, sometimes I have trouble reading it, yet the Note was really impressive. There's no question that it can be productive. I've used a few windows tablets and felt it was on par with them in terms of handwriting recognition (and without any training too!)
Yet, I'm in a dilemma, wanting the razor sharpness of an Ipad (esp. with its 4:3 ratio) and the annotating capabilities of the Note
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Yet, I'm in a dilemma, wanting the razor sharpness of an Ipad (esp. with its 4:3 ratio) and the annotating capabilities of the Note
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People dont realise that using something like spen will limit increasing the resolution of screens..
I have both an Ipad 3 and the Note 10.1. The only thing the Ipad does better is small text that I need eyeglasses to see. If you might be looking VERY closely at fine text, then yes, the ipad is sharper. Annotating the Note wins hands down, not even close. Reading Ebooks, the Note wins hands down. Perhaps some people need e-ink readers, i am not one of them. I find the Note far more pleasant and less tiring to read than an e-ink reader. I do a lot of reading or hours on end...
You do have to adjust the backlight to get the best light for your environment. I use Cool Reader because it is so easy to adjust the backlight. Just swipe your finger up or down the left edge of the screen. The Nook and Kindle apps require you to go into the menu to change brightness. I end up using the wrong brightness with those apps. That does tire my eyes quickly. With Cool Reader I end up adjusting the backlight automatically without even thinking about it. That's probably one big reason I don't get tired eyes like others have reported.
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I have both an Ipad 3 and the Note 10.1. The only thing the Ipad does better is small text that I need eyeglasses to see. If you might be looking VERY closely at fine text, then yes, the ipad is sharper. Annotating the Note wins hands down, not even close. Reading Ebooks, the Note wins hands down. Perhaps some people need e-ink readers, i am not one of them. I find the Note far more pleasant and less tiring to read than an e-ink reader. I do a lot of reading or hours on end...
You do have to adjust the backlight to get the best light for your environment. I use Cool Reader because it is so easy to adjust the backlight. Just swipe your finger up or down the left edge of the screen. The Nook and Kindle apps require you to go into the menu to change brightness. I end up using the wrong brightness with those apps. That does tire my eyes quickly. With Cool Reader I end up adjusting the backlight automatically without even thinking about it. That's probably one big reason I don't get tired eyes like others have reported.
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Well, to be fair, the Note doesn't do a good job showing the small numbers like exponents or side notes in scholarly articles, but zoom or landscape nullifies that for me. I'd rather waste a little more time zooming in on small spots than lose the s-pen though.
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The note is definitely the best device if you want to read and annotate PDFs. The spen is way better than any capacitive stylus. If you just want to read ebooks though, go with an eink device.
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It really depends on the situation. For low light scenarios I use movie as it yellows the screen a bit and increase the brightness level a touch. But most of the time I use normal. On the odd occasion where I have been outdoors, Dynamic and full brightness allows the screen to be clearly readable.
All this hooha over the iPad screen is overplayed. I will leave this artice I read a while back which explains exactly why you are being conned into believing something that simply isn't true. http:// http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/10/3226295/news-flash-surface-pro-has-a-better-retina-display-than-the-ipad
The screen on the Note 10.1 is a 1280 x 800 HD screen and IF it was made by Apple would be classed as a Retina display!
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Can owners of both Xoom and Ipad comment on the screen resolution for reading online text or pdf files? That's what I'm gonna use the tablet for most the time. I know Xoom resolution is slightly higher, but is it significant enough to show difference in clarity during reading. Thx.
I can't speak to the iPad, as I haven't read on one.
With that said, I've been pleasantly surprised by just how usable the Xoom is as an e-reader. I bought a book through the book market to use w/the Google reader app as a case-study, and have blown through a majority of it.
I can confirm very little eye strain (though dimming the screen certainly makes it easier).
The anti-aliasing is good -- not too 'blurred' around the edges.
Hope this helps.
There's no significant difference in the displays in terms of "just reading" on them. Not enough to me anyways, I own a Xoom and bought an iPad2 for my wife.
The iPad2 has a very sharp crisp and clear screen though, in terms of general over all brightness I would give it the edge.
i own both....I love reading on my xoom but the ipad2 has better clarity from all angles and just seems clearer despite the xooms superior resolution.....the wife uses the ipad more for her books and I just do more browsing and random crap so I use the xoom more.....my wife never complains when reading on the xoom so I guess both do the trick for her.....but then i can side load epub through the nook app so she is a bit envious of that.....so yah hers is prettier....mine has options....so we use both
k, I have played with both individually just not side by side. I still can't decide . I feel both are great, and neither tablet has any advantage in terms of what I'm gonna use it for.
Don't put large PDF textbooks on the xoom, it's an awful experience. IPad is much faster. Xoom needs a tablet optimized PDF app
I dislike the smooth text on the iPad I have..like windows without clear type. Even with the inferiorscreem, the text seemed to be a bit sharper
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Don't put large PDF textbooks on the xoom, it's an awful experience. IPad is much faster. Xoom needs a tablet optimized PDF app
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The Adobe App is not that great at looking at large PDF however Quickoffice in the Continuous View mode renders the PDF correctly and pretty smooth. It works best in portrait though.
I find text is blurry for the first half a second and then becomes sharp... quite sharp actually. I love reading on the lowest light setting.
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Are any of you using ez-PDF Reader on the Xoom? If so how does that handle PDF files compared to other reader apps you've used (document handling, sharpness of text, speed, etc.)?
Anyone care to speculate on whether or not we'll be able to use (with the assistance of the good folks here at XDA) Google Books to view PDFs that we load into it?
Hello,
Is there anyone that got a tab 7.7 and can do a review on how good the tab work as a cbr/comic book reader? Preferably a video one... Considering buying one as a comic book reader but want to know how it handles it, for example how small will the text be in full screen without zoom.
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Micke
HI, I also would like to know this, I'd like to use it a reader, but i'm concerned with an eventual burn in given a lot time displaying black lines of text on white background. Will that result in a burn in over time or is burn in actualy not a problem with ne new generation super amoled?
I've used Komik/Perfect Viewer/ACV/ComicRack/jcomic on a number of owned devices including SGN/Asus Transformer.
I've also go an ipad that I used to use cloudreader on.
When in bed, if holding the screen really close to my face, whilst lying on side - the SGN and 7.7 are about equivalent for me. In general use though, the 7.7 is the best size for comics. May need to dim brightness in dark environment (eg. long flight) because it can feel a bit like retina burn. The true black makes the comic "float" in the middle of the screen.
Response is very smooth on Perfect Viewer on both cbr and cbz. This is my preferred viewer with preconfigured brightness down/up on the bottom left/right. I set 200ms transitions and 10% swipe tolerance and the thing flies.
I am 6 foot with normal size hands for my height. It's doable, but not super comfortable to hold and swipe with the one hand. I don't use a case/cover. The fact that it's feather-light is a big plus.
Feels almost like the ideal device atm. On flight mode, battery only dropped about 10 percent from 75% on a 20 hr flight. This was on low brightness. Almost constant use.
The Asus Memo might be a better size when it comes out. Will wait and see.
Thank you for a great reply! I will most likely buy one. Any chance you can make a video review about this subject?
With kind regards
Mike
I find the 7.7 to be excellent as a comic reader, and a book reader in general. It can be held in one hand easily without fatigue. I prefer using Perfect Viewer and the rendering of comic pages is really fast even on the highest quality setting. Text and images are super sharp and the colours are amazing as would be expected on this type of screen. I have no problems with text size and its not much different to reading a paper version.
I also have an Asus Transformer and it just can't compare. The TF is big, heavy, and slower than the 7.7. Rendering pages is so slow on the TF I have to use a low quality render setting or there will be too much lag when flipping pages. Holding it with two hands is tiring after a short while.
The 7.7 is about as good a reader there is right now, ignoring all the dedicated eBook readers out there. But of course the 7.7 is so much more.
I use the GT7dot7 for a large amount of manga reading and some comic reading. I used the nook color before this and a 4 inch phone before that. I used to use perfect viewer as most people who try it end up using it since it is the most powerful comic reader and functions very snappy on most any device. I have since switched to komik reader for the gtab and i personally use it now as my only reader. I am a sucker for smooth page turns and komik allows for very smooth sliding of each page to the next. Where as perfect viewer allows for very quick and responsive page turns but there is no smooth scroll option.
Reader aside i have absolutely no problem reading on this device, it is a great size and it has a very crisp screen. I read though all of engadget distro with no zooming needed. Also, Google currents works great for reading stuff around the web, again the screen for me is the perfect size for it.
Any chance anyone of you can do a video review on how it is to use as a cbr reader?
With kind regards
Mikael
I have the original tab 7 (gt-p1000) and use comicrack to read comics on it all the time. IMO, it's the perfect device for that task; either standing, in bed, or sitting (airplane, f.e.).
I'm actually planning to upgrade to the 7.7 pretty soon, and expect to have the same or better results on that regard.
Hi all,
I'm thinking about buying a 7.7 for reading technical PDFs, but I'm not sure how legible a PDF will appear when viewing in full page mode with the 7.7
My worry is that a 7.7" screen will be too small for this purpose. The resolution (I think!?) will be fine.
Has anyone tried using their 7.7 to read technical PDFs in full page view? (Without zooming).
Many thanks for your help.
Don't know about technical but i've read a few PDFs in the last two weeks and i only had to zoom for one of them the rest i had no problem with
Can you describe a technical pdf? I read pdfs all the time on this tab and its mostly for school. One thing you have to keep in mind are the dimensions of the document itself, if its aspect ratio is 16:10, you'll have a good view of the document itself as it will fit entirely with no empty space on any opposite sides. I came from the galaxy tab 10.1 and the main difference regarding pdfs is that on the tab 10.1 everything was bigger (obviously) than the 7.7. If you need to view a wide spectrum of things clearly then go with a bigger tablet. Remember its the same resolution, just the screen sizes are different.
Well, it depends on the technical document...
I am an airline captain and have all the technical documentation (AFM, AOM, etc) for the aircraft I fly duplicated in my tab.
If a technical diagram is a simple one and contained in a single leaf, it is quite straightforward to use and read.
If, however, the diagram is a larger one (two or more foldout leafs, for instance), than the PDF reader still displays it in one page only and, consequentially, it displays it "zoomed out" and more difficult to read. In this instance, one has to zoom in on parts of the diagram to be able to read captions, notes or any other type of written material.
Mind you that pilot targeted technical diagrams are not very detailed ones (we are only users of those systems, not designers or maintenance technicians ).
The AMM for my aircraft (from which I have some excerpts also, out of the need to dwell a little deeper into the systems, since I'm a TRI) has lots of intricate engineering diagrams and those can be a little more tricky to read in a PDF reader...but it is still usable and practical.
If the diagrams you intend to display are very detailed and intricate (like industrial machinery, architectural or electric/electronics layouts technical diagrams), then you'll necessarily have zoom in/out in order to make good use of them.
It's a matter of real-estate size of the screen and your own visual acuity.
Hope this helps!
XK
Yeah, it's really going to come down to how good your eyes are. The PDFs are usually quite crisp and legible, but tiny text.
For programming books I find repligo reader in portrait mode works very nicely.
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Screen good performance snappy but IMO aspect ratio too small
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Thanks all for the feed back, especially XDAKhan for your detailed reply.
Today I managed to track a 7.7 down in a store, which was surprising as I didn't think there were any retail stores in this country stocking the 7.7.
Sadly the 7.7 is going to be too small for my use. It's size is just too close to that of my Galaxy Note. While in the store I loaded up some PDFs from my Drive account on to the 7.7; in full page view text is legible but it's tiny. Recipe for eye strain over prolonged periods of reading for sure.
It's a shame as it is a nice tablet, build quality and screen are good. But it's not for me, it's just too comparable to my Note and wouldn't be a sensible purchase.
I'm now looking at 1280x800 10" tablets.
Thanks for your time and input all.
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Thanks all for the feed back, especially XDAKhan for your detailed reply.
Today I managed to track a 7.7 down in a store, which was surprising as I didn't think there were any retail stores in this country stocking the 7.7.
Sadly the 7.7 is going to be too small for my use. It's size is just too close to that of my Galaxy Note. While in the store I loaded up some PDFs from my Drive account on to the 7.7; in full page view text is legible but it's tiny. Recipe for eye strain over prolonged periods of reading for sure.
It's a shame as it is a nice tablet, build quality and screen are good. But it's not for me, it's just too comparable to my Note and wouldn't be a sensible purchase.
I'm now looking at 1280x800 10" tablets.
Thanks for your time and input all.
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Dude, get the new iPad if you want stunning PDFs. Nothing else comes close at the moment.
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Dude, get the new iPad if you want stunning PDFs. Nothing else comes close at the moment.
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the best advice so far
i just had to look at a set of plans for a commercial bldg on the tab, no problem reading all the dimensions
Besides the obvious uses for the note tablet, what do you use yours for? I'm a freelance illustrator and the wacom digitizer and s-pen are what initially attracted me to the note phone, and now the note tablet, both allowing me to sketch on the go and minimizing the amount of time sitting in front of my desktop. Honestly even though I'm a huge tech person and love gadgets such as phones, i was never really into the tablet craze, especially after having a phone with a huge screen, i used a buddies iPad a few years back and didn't understand the buzz (with any apple product actually) but i started eyeballing the old note tablet as a new toy and tool for drawing and days later watched the IFA live on the computer and was sold on the Note 2014 edition, aesthetically it's great looking and has nice specs where I wouldn't have to worry about bogging it down. I love to game, avid xBoxer (when time allows) so the tablet would also serve as a good way to game while watching TV or laying in the couch without burning my phone battery up, and the drawing is awesome, but being drawing, gaming and browsing the internet, I don't know what else to use this thing for ... After dropping $600 + $60 for a 64GB sdcard and another $30+ in cases and accessories, I'm wondering if I just bought another really over priced laptop lol like I'm missing why people really enjoy the tablet, don't get me wrong I love it and refuse to give it up, I'm just looking for tips or advice on how to unlock the true potential of a tablet, like I said this is my first tablet, so any good apps? Games? Tricks? Tips? What role does your tablet serve in your life? Anything I guess that I might be missing, I've been rooting my phones for years and def plan to root this thing, and fully understand what a root can do to a device as far as unlocking extra potential, but beyond that just looking to see if I'm overlooking something awesome about tablets I could start using this for and really getting my moneys worth. Any advice is really appreciated! please excuse any typos lol I'm typing this using Swype on my note phone, and the auto correct has a mind of it's own.
Thanks.
Personally I use my pad as a more mobile laptop. I read on it, code on it, write on it... mostly read though. And games of course, can't forget about the games. Well, i guess i actually do everything on my pad, starting to get all itchy now since i broke the tf700t and am eagerly awaiting the new note. But hey, i guess you could produce some music on them as well... nothing a-grade but some snippets and loops here and there while waiting for whatever.
Mainly for communications, the rest for testing applications and gamea
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When home i use it as most probably do, Web browsing, forum reading through tapatalk, some games, social media etc. Basically a laptop replacement.
Its main purpose though is for use for college.
I use Lecture Notes extensively for note taking as well as all audios of lectures.
I found Class Buddy Pro to be great for scheduling all my classes when papers are do, when exams are etc (great app which syncs with any of your calendars) you can even attach files to the class itself (like a syllabus) and papers for assignments can be attached to the event you create for the assignment so you don't lose them (I use the paper the professors pop up on our internal web site so they are always available with me in an easy to find spot)
I use ezPDF Reader Pro for simple PDF annotations.
Mantano Reader Premium is by far the best PDF ePub textbook reading app out there. I need something which supports Adobe DRM and having tried every single app on the Play Store, I was blown away when I finally got to this one. While the interface is not as flashy as some of them, the nuts and bolts (reading, highlighting, annotating, bookmarking etc) cannot be beat.
This is my 5th tablet. I love my original Note 10.1 so much I bought this one the day a 32GB black one became available (I wanted / needed the higher resolution for anatomy books, really anything with pictures in them). Incredible piece of technology.
Since you like Wacom Digitizers, Google using the Note series as a Wacom Digitizer for a PC.
Porno and drawing porno.
if i had one of these and internet while i was going through puberty...
when i was a young chap we had to look at porn or video cassettes, uphill, both ways!
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if i had one of these and internet while i was going through puberty...
when i was a young chap we had to look at porn or video cassettes, uphill, both ways!
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If I had one going through puberty I would have been locked in my room for ages never once looking outside.
That reminds me, is Reagan still President?
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I use the 2014 Note 10.1 mainly for movie watching at the moment. Also owning an iPad 4 I use that for most anything else. Email reading and email management I do mostly on my Note 3, with its indicator light and easy deletion options (the iPad wants you to Archive in stead of delete).
I'm actively looking at other uses for the 2014 Note 10.1 though. Areas of interest include: drawing, decent internet browsing, HD games, reading, and music/audio playback. This could be a great device given the right software. It already is top of the heap in some areas.
Usage of my 2014 Note 10.1 is currently hindered somewhat by the lack of a proper (slim, light weight) smartcover. Right now I'm using an iPad 1 or 2 Belkin "woolen" type sleeve (great fit), but I'm hoping for something more like my beautiful/handy Decoded iPad smartcover.
Op, its really up to what kind of illustrating you are up to do.
As of now, painting and drawing loose is more easier to do, and the results will come out quite clean. However that's the extent of Sketchbook that comes with the note10.1 itself. Generally you'd want to go beyond that for reproduction pipeline, as well as refining for details in cases of print work. HOWEVER. I consider that actual painting beyond the tablet's ability.
Note 10.1 is GREAT for sketching. I feel like it gets the idea down fast, and the first 2 or 3 stages of an illustration is completed just using the tablet - such as the grey value drawing, the base color palette, and general composition. I've yet to find an app that goes to 4K resolution and comes with a decent set of tools. Someone at XDA might point me out on this, but for my own use, I bounce back to my usual pipeline on the PC after my sketch is completed.
Things the Note is also good at, is the beautiful display. Max your colors out and brightness, and you get a 2nd monitor. There are plenty of apps that turns your PC / Laptop into a 2nd screen. Generally for viewing purposes and color / value checking. More things you can do: Use the screen as color reference, use the note as photo ref when drawing, use it as a scanner! 8MP is decent if you snap a pencil drawing and then paint on top of it, as an artist my self, I find this thing similar to be a Swiss army knife, it use it for literally everything.
On another note! Pun not intended, the note is not yet capable of doing any adobe illustrator. It's a horrible set back if you're a vector artist - or a graphic designer that intend to pump out quick samples. I feel that the apps available right now are inadequate. It's quite a shame. my current work around is using splash top and connect it to my home computer.
Previously i was a Tab 7.7 user.
Main use was surfing, and reading books and scanned manga's. I got tons of those digitally and in paper form, same with European comic books. Now the later are usually printed in a A4 format, so it all got a bit to small on the screen. And next to that PDF manuals, big fast high resolution tablets make them better to watch :victory:
So when i went looking for a new tablet, one of the things, i wanted was a bigger screen, a higher resolution, and some decent processor power. I had been eying the Nexus 10, and the LG G Pad 8.3 that was coming. Nexus 10 like all nexus lacking and SD slot, and from what i later heard also did not work with a OTG + USB drive right out the box, was not an option. The G Pad 8.3 looked nice, but i felt it might still be to small a screen for the bigger books to displace well, and readable. So when the Note 10.1 2014 came and i read the specs, and saw the price tag, i though, it might be a bit pricy but it can do everything i want it to do and more. I must say im not disappointed by it yet
So the note safes me from having the lug kilo's of paper books around, they can stay in on my shelves now
OP, since you are looking at sketching etc, check out this article. It's in French but Google translate should help, and even if it doesn't the sketches speak for themselves.
http://goo.gl/Rm7jhO
The drawings were made with Sketchbook Pro which is included on the new Notes.
My original Transformer Prime became a laptop replacement for anything that didn't involve heavy lifting (development work, etc). Once I find a decent bluetooth keyboard I expect I'll be doing the same thing with this.
My primary reason for upgrading to this particular tablet is the screen as I will be using it for photography. I pull the pics off the camera via wi-fi and then I can preview/edit them on the tablet.
I just use my table for viewing movies while traveling.
I find the spen, ezpdf, Dropbox combo to be perfect.
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I actually just said that in a recent post. It is true. I know that having the pen with ezPDF is amazing and works well. The issue is in the performance. Try an iPad. Load a graphic intensive PDF on it and then start moving around from page to page and zooming. It's smooth as heck. Now do it on the Note 10.1 2014... Choppy, inconsistent and slows down to a crawl sometimes. As much as a hate Apple and I think that their products are mainly consumption kiddy toys, they do have some very optimized well put together hardware and software. There is a reason why they are praised for their gaming capabilities, because the GPU capabilities are amazing. But like I said, outside of that, there is nothing special about it so it's not like that would win me over. The Note 10.1 2014 is what I am sticking with and it will do wonders for most everything, I just hope the video processing and random system performance gets patched along the way soon.
Dissappinted to hear that. I wanted to upgeade to a 2014 for better, faster pdf handling. I guess all the ipad needs is a pen with good palm rejection.
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dtziheucdavis said:
Dissappinted to hear that. I wanted to upgeade to a 2014 for better, faster pdf handling. I guess all the ipad needs is a pen with good palm rejection.
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If they put a Wacom Digitizer in there they may have something.
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yeah my daughters old ass ipad2 is still pretty smooth. any 2yr old android tablet can't even hang - tegra2 sucked!
Is what you are seeing really attributable to a difference between an iPad and Android from a hardware and OS perspective or is it a difference in the PDF apps that are available? I know that it really doesn't matter in the end because the results of the same but it seems to be more related to deficiencies ezPDF then in the hardware or OS. I really wish Bluebeam would step up and bring their PDF reader to Android.
I think pdf handling on the note 10.1 2014 isn't perfect but its definitely smooth enough unless you're OCD
Compare GoodNotes on iOS to ezPDF on Android and you'll see why.
Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.
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Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.
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Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?
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Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?
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You should try out the lite version first because I think it's essentially the same in terms of performance. The turning page effect is not there for PDF files (doesn't matter to me really), it just a straight horizontal or vertical scroll. I believe you can put some equivalent of sticky notes - you can write a text note and have it linked to a page, but it wont explicitly show a sticky note symbol on the page. Also I must warn you that despite the scrolling and rendering to be really smooth, the text rendering isn't that amazing, but I'm not sure which other PDF reader has that anyway. What I mean is that, when zooming in, there is a delay before the text gets sharper.
Edit: there's also this other reader I heard is quite good performance wise. Radaee PDF reader. I haven't tried it out myself, but maybe you want to give that a look as well.
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Check out Mantano reader. I find that it has the smoothest experience out of all android PDF readers. There performance may not be as good as the iOS alternatives, but it comes pretty close. I can read a 1000 page textbook on my galaxy s3 without any noticeable lag or stutter. The performance should be just as good, if not better on the note 2014. It also has annotate/highlight functionality which could put the pen to good use.
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Mantano is indeed good and smooth, but it seems it does not have palm rejection when using the spen?
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Before I shell out for the Premium version, does it have the ability to put sticky notes, and does it have a "turning page" effect like ezPDF?
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Remember. You have a 15 minute refund window. I refunded it myself cause I couldn't find a way to persistently highlight. It was annoying to keep to the side to highlight. I emailed the Dev to ask but no reply yet.
Its the apps that are present.
Just two app 'notability' and 'good reader" in ipad can already give superior annotating which up to date no developer in android has ever manage to create.
It has everything lecturenote, snote, ezpdf or any annotating app on play store has to offer. On top of that they auto cloud sync(no need for dropsync), it keeps text formatting of your pdf files, import and export in seconds.
Downside is... there is no s pen for ipad. If one day those 2 companies plan to hit the android market I think those apps I mentioned will probably be obsolete. I was quite disappointed with android in this when I traded in my iPad for a note 10.1 2014.
If a digitizer appears on iPad. It will be the end for the productivity appeal of android (apart from note 10.1 with multi window IMO).
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Its the apps that are present.
Just two app 'notability' and 'good reader" in ipad can already give superior annotating which up to date no developer in android has ever manage to create.
It has everything lecturenote, snote, ezpdf or any annotating app on play store has to offer. On top of that they auto cloud sync(no need for dropsync), it keeps text formatting of your pdf files, import and export in seconds.
Downside is... there is no s pen for ipad. If one day those 2 companies plan to hit the android market I think those apps I mentioned will probably be obsolete. I was quite disappointed with android in this when I traded in my iPad for a note 10.1 2014.
If a digitizer appears on iPad. It will be the end for the productivity appeal of android (apart from note 10.1 with multi window IMO).
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Best post in this thread. I agree on every point.
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Best post in this thread. I agree on every point.
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:good: Hope you are not having a bad time with your note 10.1 haha..
Anyway my opinion is not a biased one. I have always tests device and tell friends if they are good or not. I have tried almost every single annotating there is on android but all were not up to my standard of productivity.
Please don't read peoples' comments on how good this app is or that app is. I was fooled.. Most of them only had the experience on one side of the coin and not the other. Try it yourself (if you can), and tell yourself which is better.
Here is my advise though:
If anyone want get an android device for PDF annotating or dealing with PDF(drawing diagram etc), please reconsider your option as a jotpro + notability/good reader on iPad as it does a better job.
If you don't mind all the hassle(frankly speaking its very troublesome) of rendering every single pages during import and export which takes a whole lot of your time for lecturenotes/s note (not to mention increase in pdf sizes and lack of quality) or lack of functionality of ezpdf (and other pdf annotator). Go ahead and get a note 10.1 for its multi screen so you can view and refer to multiple document at once.
If you are considering of hardware performance-wise, I'm not sure about gaming but other than that there is no difference between a iPad 3 and note 10.1 2014 edition performance.
Is jotpro really comparable to spen though? I use my tablet only for pdf reading and annotating. The downside of all the ipad stuff has always been that the stylus is too thick and imprecise, and there is no palm rejection. Other than that, I do agree ipad is superior for just reading pdfs. Although, I have found that mupdf is extremely fast on Android if all you want to do is read and not annotate.
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iPad, Jot Pro and apps are POS. Just look at YouTube videos of mentioned app with Jot Pro like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4oTEQqSiyo
- Writing input is laggy even compared to my old Note 2. Should be even faster on Note 3 after it finishes downloading Call of Duty Strike Team.
Update: Note 3 (Snapdragon 800) is even faster as expected. Only suggestion is to change the freehand writing thickness from default super thick to either 1 or 3 point to make it more responsive.
- No palm rejection will give you carpal tunnel syndrome writing awkwardly with palm in the air. Or, you can waste half of your screen with what this guy is doing using a make shift palm wrest.
- Even on a full size iPad with the input window zoomed in, the writing is inaccurate and looks like chicken scratches. On Note 2 5.5" without zooming I can write tiny text accurately.
- I tested the free Acrobat Reader to annotate a 133 page PDF and it's fast to scroll, zoom in/out, manipulate, etc. and this is on my old Note 2. It has built-in cloud sync with Adobe or you can use a number of other services like Google Drive, Dropbox, SkyDrive, etc.
- On the iPad with only 1GB DRAM you risk losing whatever you're working on when you task switch if, for example, you have to switch to VOIP app to take a call, check Gmail/Maps, run another app, etc. I've lost comments I was in the middle of writing task switching just between browser and Apple Maps and back on an iPad because the browser reloaded. Non-issue with Note series with 2GB and 3GB DRAM on the newer devices.
- It's wishful thinking but no stylus including Jot Pro can compare to the Note's Wacom pen and there's no way to stow inside so it's bound to get lost.
- If you're concerned about performance check out the Note 10.1 2014 LTE with Snapdragon 800 which is what I'm waiting for along with 12.2" to arrive in the US.
Forget about the iPad. I've used both and it's a POS.
That's exactly why I left ipad and ios. There still doesn't seem to be a good stylus option with PM rejection that is even close to spen.
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It depends.. I never used notability with my Palm in the air before. There are work around for it. The video quality aren't very good that's why the words are sketchy. I have also never lost work while switching apps. I'm lazy to elaborate more lol.. Anyone would wanna consider go try them and see for yourself. Try notability! Really a good app. See if you can name one in Android that is better than that by experience not by videos or others' POV. I can post the screen shot of lecturenotes/s note and annotation done by notability to see if writing is sketchy.
Other than these I think I like the function of the s pen and the multi window functions. Otherwise I would really chunk this device out of the window*just kidding*
Point is, you should ignore what everyone is saying including and do the comparison yourself.