[Q] Does the Nexus Q support the HDMI audio return channel? - Nexus Q Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The HDMI audio return channel would mean that a TV could send audio back down to the Nexus Q from another source/input and, by doing this, let one use the Nexus Q as a glorious little makeshift receiver. This would be perfect for a bedroom setup where I don't really care about surround sound and would like for everything (such as cable TV) to play through my stereo speakers that I've attached to the Nexus Q.
I understand that if the hardware technically supports it, the software quite probably does not--even CM10.1 probably doesn't. I'm just trying to get a response, preferably from a developer that has poked around with the drivers and low level interfaces, about whether this dream of mine is a possibility. If this feature is actually working right now out of the box or with CM10.1 installed, though, that'd be great to know as well

Malnilion said:
The HDMI audio return channel would mean that a TV could send audio back down to the Nexus Q from another source/input and, by doing this, let one use the Nexus Q as a glorious little makeshift receiver. This would be perfect for a bedroom setup where I don't really care about surround sound and would like for everything (such as cable TV) to play through my stereo speakers that I've attached to the Nexus Q.
I understand that if the hardware technically supports it, the software quite probably does not--even CM10.1 probably doesn't. I'm just trying to get a response, preferably from a developer that has poked around with the drivers and low level interfaces, about whether this dream of mine is a possibility. If this feature is actually working right now out of the box or with CM10.1 installed, though, that'd be great to know as well
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In my first bit of exploring thinking, my Q wakes itself up, or at least the LEDs when i switch to it on my reciever. And it also enables it as a video destination in youtube and movies when switched to it on my receiver, so its not just a dummy "speak only" hdmi output. It knows when it is connected to something... now just to see if it will do ARC.

So far i dont think Q is HDMI 1.4 device
so i would think not possible
but who knows~

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Stream Video From Hero To Other

Anyone know of a way to stream video from the HERO to another device? I'm sure the EVO can do it since its got HDMI out. Basically what I'm looking for is soon here on my vacation I was thinking if my 11 month old gets fussy I could stream micky mouse which I already have in mp4 format on my phone to my portable DVD player.
My dvd player is old though and I only see AV out and AV in. No svideo, rca or anything. It may not even be possible. I'm open to buying something else cheap tho. Any other ideas?
I wonder if I could just buy a smal 8 inch portable TV off amazon and stream it to there? In the car ride of course
It appears that the functionality needs to be in the hardware. It might be possible to do on our phones but I don't think it is possible to have a general any Android with USB support type of thing. I would imagine modules would have to be compiled into the kernel for it to work so it would be on a phone to phone basis with a custom ROM and that is probably why no one has put the effort into it.
n/m I found an HTC OEM usb mini to RCA cable that will work wonders. My brother in law uses it to stream video from his phone to his car LCD display.
Anyone know of a TV OUT android app though? I'm assuming you'd need something like that

[Q] Use Nexus Q as an external amplifier?

My Nexus Q is slowly collecting dust on my entertainment center. It looks pretty, but being limited to Google Play or YouTube content only just bites. I've already got an iOS device and a receiver that supports Airplay (which quite frankly works much more reliably), so I don't have a reason to leave it plugged in beyond the novelty of it.
What I'd love to do, however, is use for the "audiophile quality" amp it supposedly has in another room with some vintage Bose 301 speakers I have and my desktop PC. Is there any way to get audio in on this thing? It's got optical audio out, would installing CM10 allow me to change that port to optical input instead? Or how about USB, would any hack or rom allow me to plug it into my PC and use it as a USB-Audio device?
splitpea said:
My Nexus Q is slowly collecting dust on my entertainment center. It looks pretty, but being limited to Google Play or YouTube content only just bites. I've already got an iOS device and a receiver that supports Airplay (which quite frankly works much more reliably), so I don't have a reason to leave it plugged in beyond the novelty of it.
What I'd love to do, however, is use for the "audiophile quality" amp it supposedly has in another room with some vintage Bose 301 speakers I have and my desktop PC. Is there any way to get audio in on this thing? It's got optical audio out, would installing CM10 allow me to change that port to optical input instead? Or how about USB, would any hack or rom allow me to plug it into my PC and use it as a USB-Audio device?
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The only thing I could think of would be an app that makes it a Bluetooth audio reciever. But it doesn't appear to have one. Last I tried cm10.1 the amp didn't work. Just HDMI. You could sell it

DVI and USB Audio?

Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
On the same note, since my monitor doesn't have speakers and an HDMI audio extractor is about the same price as the OUYA, it'd be nice to be able to use a USB DAC to output audio to my desktop speakers. Apparently the SGS3 has it enabled, it just isn't in the stock android kernel yet: See Android Issue 24614
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
TopherBarnett said:
Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
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The resolution isn't an OUYA specific problem, it's the same on many devices. I believe it does have to do with HDCP. I know there are some people out there with similar situations as you that have a converter cable that works, but it's not very common. IMO this is something I believe they never thought would come up was a problem that seems to be more common than not.
And yes, any type of converter box or audio splitter is going to cost you. the HDMI to Component box that I was looking at that I heard works costs 150, so it's not really worth it.
As for the sound over USB, I haven't heard of that yet for OUYA, but I know it was actually part of android starting with 4.1. That does not mean it works with the OUYA, however, as it seems only a few phones/tablets actually have the ability. If you have a micro USB to USB adapter, you might try it through that, but other than that not sure if there's any options.
I was really hoping this thing would have a AUX port, but it doesn't. I know there's some devs working on pushing sound and video from android over a network, but it's still in early stages and as far as I know no one has it working yet.
Really hope someone finds a good workaround. I don't particularly want to buy a TV just for this little box.
Well this is interesting...I just installed CWM, and while in recovery it shows full screen and looks rather nice. This must mean that it's not an inherent problem with my screen or connection, but is something do do with the software. This makes a work-around seem feasible, no?
Just found a reply in the StockPlus thread in the Dev section, but thought I'd repost here since I don't have 10 posts yet and can't reply there:
KyleK29 said:
http://www.amazon.com/Syba-SD-CM-UAU...Syba+USB+Audio
This one, from what I understand it's Android compliant, so it just needs the standard USB Audio modules. I know the Nexus 7 got it working with certain kernels that had the necessary modules loaded. Jellybean was supposed to make this easy, but it's been hit or miss on which ROMs have the files.
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I have the same USB audio adapter and it's not working for me either. Really hoping someone cracks this nut.
TopherBarnett said:
Well, since I don't have a TV with HDMI, I was really hoping I could run my OUYA on my computer monitor with an HDMI to DVI cable. I do get picture, but the resolution is horrible. I've contacted support about this, but have not received a reply in over a month. Apparently I am not the only one with this issue as it can be found all over the support forums. Not sure if it's a resolution issue or HDCP issue or something else, but I'm hoping some enterprising dev can figure it out.
On the same note, since my monitor doesn't have speakers and an HDMI audio extractor is about the same price as the OUYA, it'd be nice to be able to use a USB DAC to output audio to my desktop speakers. Apparently the SGS3 has it enabled, it just isn't in the stock android kernel yet: See Android Issue 24614
Anybody working on this or heard directly from OUYA support?
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The issue with this is that the Ouya looks for screenmodes of 1920x1080p and 1280x720p in the monitor EDID.
Failing this, it reverts back to a letterboxed 640x480 screenmode.
There's a thread here with more info.
I have an old monitor that runs 1600x900 I use it on next to my computer just to root. If I could make it use 1280x720 and my logitech usb sound card I'd get more use from the ouya as it's now hooked to a shaerd TV. I can run my PS3 and xbox on the monitor at 1280x720 and get sound from the av outputs.
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muriani said:
The issue with this is that the Ouya looks for screenmodes of 1920x1080p and 1280x720p in the monitor EDID.
Failing this, it reverts back to a letterboxed 640x480 screenmode.
There's a thread here with more info.
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Good info on that thread, too bad nobody has seemed to make much progress though. My monitor is capable of up to 1920x1200 and supports 1280p and 720p resolutions. Sounds like the solution is either to get the EDID talking correctly, or hack in a way to override the OUYA settings and change the resolution manually.
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
shaDNfro said:
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
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I bet the switch provides some EDID spoofing. Most do in order to keep display sources from freaking out when the display is disconnected and reconnected.
Glad to hear it works...hopefully that means it's less of an issue with HDCP and more to do with EDID. I'd rather not have to buy a switch that is almost as expensive as the console itself when DVI and USB audio (in my opinion) should work out of the box. Hopefully the OUYA devs get around to adding support, but I have more hope for the XDA chefs.
Hi.
shaDNfro said:
I am running a HDMI Audio Switch (Ligawo HDMI Audio Switch ~35€) using a hdmi-cable between ouya and switch and a hdmi-dvi cable to connect the switch with my computer monitor. The switch comes with a cinch-output that is connected with my 2.0 Amplifier.
Funnily enough the switch also solves the resolution problem, I still have when connecting the ouya with my monitor via hdmi-dvi cable. Now my monitor runs brilliant on 720p.
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I just bought such a Ligawo device, and whenever I plug in the HDMI-DVI cable, the OUYA seems to turn off sound via HDMI, seemingly because al that digital stuff is so "clever" it knows that DVI doesn't do sound. At least that's what I think, and one of the customer reviews on the device on Amazon (the link I cannot -yet- post here, grmbl) confirms it, kind of.
You don't have that problem?
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Karsten

Use Nexus Player in Car?

So I was thinking I would like to use a nexus Player or raspberry pi in my car as my current cars music player is crap (I cant stream music through my Bluetooth)..So a couple questions for you smart guys. One my car uses rca for the aux screen input, if i use a HDTV Mini Composite 1080P HDMI to RCA Audio Video AV CVBS Adapter Converter would this play nice with the nexus screen size?
Also I have a nexus 5x can I use my phone as a hotspot tether for the player?
Thanks for the input guys
dillyoee said:
So I was thinking I would like to use a nexus Player or raspberry pi in my car as my current cars music player is crap (I cant stream music through my Bluetooth)..So a couple questions for you smart guys. One my car uses rca for the aux screen input, if i use a HDTV Mini Composite 1080P HDMI to RCA Audio Video AV CVBS Adapter Converter would this play nice with the nexus screen size?
Also I have a nexus 5x can I use my phone as a hotspot tether for the player?
Thanks for the input guys
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The NP will be able to run fine while tethered... I've used my G4 to give my NP internet access and watched 1080p movies just fine. The NP is just like any other android device in regards to connecting to an available WiFi network(in this case provided by your hotspot)
As for using a NP in a car setup rather than a Pi? I'm not sure you are going to enjoy either to be honest. I've tried some creative car audio/visual installs but learned it is not ideal(or safe) to rely on a remote for control. Touch/voice controlled configuration is best for day to day use.
As for will down-converting your digital video output to use with rca cables work?
Probably.... But the NP is still going to think its outputting digital, and you will surely experience some issues. The NP already has some over-scanning issues on older hdtv's. Not to mention the androidTV launcher isn't designed for a car sized display......
Just my 2 cents I guess. Try it and please report your experience with it:thumbup:
Thanks Bud...Not worried about safety I dont even look at my phone when I drive. Its more to have a decent media player for music and have google maps on display when I need it. My display is a 7" no touch....If I did a root and did something like a cm mod could I fix re-sizing issues with the display?
Thanks again
Just trying to find out options for my car with the crap oem nissan media
They are starting to make stereo's that will mirrorcast your phone... but that doesn't seem as fun lol. I'm not opposed to the NP as a car computer idea. You might want a small bluetooth keyboard with trackpad to use in conjunction as the remote.. or maybe not.

Is it possible to connect a Shield to a set of old 7.1 computer speakers?

Hi!
I'm thinking of buying a Shield to centralise my Plex/Netflix/emulators/etc on one device. One thing I'd like to do though is use a set of old Inspire T7900 speakers (7.1, powered) that I have lying around. I don't have a dedicated receiver (and the speakers wouldn't work with it anyway unless they had pre-amp outs), so I'm thinking I might figure out a way of hooking the Shield directly to them -- perhaps through a USB sound card.
Is this possible? Do you know of any usb sound cards that work with the Shield *and* support 7.1? No need for amplification as the speaker set does it itself (because it was originally designed to work with PC sound cards).
I've been poking around and I've come across a lot of people doing stuff with optical USB adapters and even just pulling sound off the USB port because of reasons, but not this kind of setup. Any help will be welcome thanks!
PS: just in case it comes up, yes, I do plan on getting a proper AV receiver at some point, which I will pair with an adequate set of speakers (not these). However, my living room is quite cramped for AV gear as it is; we expect to move to a bigger house sometime in the next 1-2 years and I figure I'll do it then. For now, the T7900 is good enough.

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