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Whats the G1 like?
I suppose its a good phone.
The thing is, i have a very limited budget. I bought a LG GT540 about 2 months ago and i am not happy with the quality of it, so i thought why not a g1? I have liked the G1 ever since it came out and i have only seen one in real life, ever. I can't really afford a new one or a G2 or a newer android phone.
So, could you tell me what its like?
Any problems with the G1?
It would be great if you could help!
Thanks
Do you care about the camera pixels?
Screen resolution?
Screen size?
Color pixels?
adobe flash player?
Low Internal memory ?
Led flash or dual led flash?
If not the g1 is for you
I have upgraded mine to Froyo (the AOSP build). I have applied some of the changes found amongst these forums, and so have the new radio and enhanced memory, and I must say the phone performing wonderfully.
I don't surf on it heavily, but most apps I throw at it run very well.
As far as cons, Angry Birds doesn't do too well - it is so choppy as to be unplayable. Also, I have seen other phones that have a standard 3.5" stereo jack, and some that have an FM radio. These are two options I envy some.
But altogether, it's a great phone.
flyboyovyick said:
Whats the G1 like?
I suppose its a good phone.
The thing is, i have a very limited budget. I bought a LG GT540 about 2 months ago and i am not happy with the quality of it, so i thought why not a g1? I have liked the G1 ever since it came out and i have only seen one in real life, ever. I can't really afford a new one or a G2 or a newer android phone.
So, could you tell me what its like?
Any problems with the G1?
It would be great if you could help!
Thanks
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G1 is a solid android device it may not have the best screen but as far as speed man root it set cpu to a nice speed maybe compache and zx donut or superD and youll be ard maybe buy an extra battery like 4 dollars on ebay so itll last u the whole day buy your self a 2-8gb sd card thats all ya need
well my lg can play angry birds well
has a fm radio
the g1 has a 3.2" same res screen as the lg.
same camera res
i only really care about android wifi gps camera and build quality
I just don't feel that the build quality of the lg is going to last for at least 1 year.
the other htc's ive had have been phucking solid.
thanks for your advise. I am trying to buy a g1 for under £120, then i can sell my lg or go back to my trusty htc himalaya.
flyboyovyick said:
well my lg can play angry birds well
has a fm radio
the g1 has a 3.2" same res screen as the lg.
same camera res
i only really care about android wifi gps camera and build quality
I just don't feel that the build quality of the lg is going to last for at least 1 year.
the other htc's ive had have been phucking solid.
thanks for your advise. I am trying to buy a g1 for under £120, then i can sell my lg or go back to my trusty htc himalaya.
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haha good choice and you can get the g1 for like 60 on ebay and it might come with a screen protector charger case etc theres deals out there man look around
Too be honest, I would say just save up money and get a new android phone like the g2 or maybe even a used Nexus One.
The G1 ROM section is so boring now and it is NOT FAST at all. Even with these donut roms, all you will be doing is forcing yourself to believe that it is fast.
Coming from a dude whose phone has the space specs as the g1
Then get the device any android phone is good just with a simple root you can add feature, New Android 0S and removing annoying apps and the underclock speed from the carrier.
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G1 is a solid android device it may not have the best screen but as far as speed man root it set cpu to a nice speed maybe compache and zx donut or superD and youll be ard maybe buy an extra battery like 4 dollars on ebay so itll last u the whole day buy your self a 2-8gb sd card thats all ya need
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You can get it for cheaper in craigslist i bought an htc hero $40 dollars.
jamal717 said:
haha good choice and you can get the g1 for like 60 on ebay and it might come with a screen protector charger case etc theres deals out there man look around
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Fm radio it ok but i think tune in radio for an radio app is better then sense ui Fm radio.
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I have upgraded mine to Froyo (the AOSP build). I have applied some of the changes found amongst these forums, and so have the new radio and enhanced memory, and I must say the phone performing wonderfully.
I don't surf on it heavily, but most apps I throw at it run very well.
As far as cons, Angry Birds doesn't do too well - it is so choppy as to be unplayable. Also, I have seen other phones that have a standard 3.5" stereo jack, and some that have an FM radio. These are two options I envy some.
But altogether, it's a great phone.
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Too be honest, I would say just save up money and get a new android phone like the g2 or maybe even a used Nexus One.
The G1 ROM section is so boring now and it is NOT FAST at all. Even with these donut roms, all you will be doing is forcing yourself to believe that it is fast.
Coming from a dude whose phone has the space specs as the g1
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Just buy it and use the latest froyo roms (see CYANOGENMOD forum, nightlies)
IMO, keyboard is the biggest thing for me. And the g1's keyboard is one of my favorites. I used sidekicks and blackberries, and was able to type without looking at my phone with all of them. I also upgraded to the g2 for a month, but returned it cause at the time there was no root.
I can confidently say that if you're into keyboards, you should save up for the g2 or just get the g1. Motorola cliq and the other motorla phones are not for me.
if you're a simple man/woman, then the g1 will be good.
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True, if you could save up some extra £'s then you should get a G2 since its awesomely better & performs similar or even better than some of the new android phones out there. But if not, then go for the G1, mines been used for a year & a bit & still works great!
G1 is terrible, don't waste your time.
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I bought mine a year ago and I am still totally in love with it. It is the oldest android phone but still one of the best (IMHO). I had the opportunity to upgrade it to an LG optimus, but I prefered the quality of the G1.
- Less memory, slower processor
+ qwerty, quality, capacitive screen, developers and their cool roms
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I bought mine a year ago and I am still totally in love with it. It is the oldest android phone but still one of the best (IMHO). I had the opportunity to upgrade it to an LG optimus, but I prefered the quality of the G1.
- Less memory, slower processor
+ qwerty, quality, capacitive screen, developers and their cool roms
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All of those + can be had with other devices.
Ill admit that the g1 is a cool device, but it belongs in a museum at this point.. if you can get one for under $50 in excellent shape, go for it.. otherwise, save up and snag something a little newer.
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I wrote those pluses and minuses about the LG GT540 vs. G1 comparrison. Otherwise you re right there are many super phones out there if you have enough money.
G1 was a great phone. It allowed Android to sneak its way into the phone market and allowed the great N1 to make its way into the market. Now it's just dead. If you want a good Android phone, get a N1. It is still up to date with most smart phones and won't lead you wrong.
Hardware keyboards - They're great in certain situations. However, I can still type faster on my G2's soft keyboard than hardware keyboard and all I use is hardware keyboard to try and get used to it. After a few months of getting a G2, I'm still not faster with the hardware keyboard. Swype is also a great keyboard replacement, but I personally like typing letter by letter. With word prediction, it seems faster to correct mistakes.
Also, cyanogenmod 6.1 is great, but I couldn't use it on my myTouch3g. I often wondered if some of my RAM had failed or if my processor was starting to die because of how horribly slow it was yet everyone bragging about how fast it was. Indeed, it was great when I first loaded it. After I installed a few apps and a few widgets, that all went away. I tried numerous setups of swap, compcache and even left them be for weeks at a time seeing what was good and what wasn't... nothing was good. Now I'm running cyanogen 6.1 on my G2 and I've never seen it run so smooth and perfect.
If you absolutely desire a smart phone, and can get a G1 cheap, go for it. But I would personally only use it while saving up for something better. I'm aware these phones are pretty pricey and people have other priorities and they're not an option for everyone, but after using a G2 I can never go back to anything less than it.
Edit: Also, be careful buying budget Android phones. My fiancee has a Samsung Intercept on VM and even with a 800Mhz processor it is slow as dirt. It was basically unusable until I rooted it. And even with root there are still many, many speed issues.
I had a g1 for 2 years now I got a vibrant
If you are on a budget the g1 is the best most customizable android phone! There are tons of roms and you can overclock it and all other things plus its git a bunch of devs !
The vibrant has like 6 decent roms only from 3 devs
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I'll agree with alan up there, even though G1 development has severely slowed down, there are still devs working on producing ROMs for it and they are all great developers and do a very, very good job.
Okay so right now I'm using the evo shift but I'm about to switch to cincinatibell and was thinking of getting a hd2 because I'm an obessive flasher but I was wondering is the phone fast? Like my evo I've herd rumors that the speed is rediculously good like just as good as my shift I don't actually know how true that is what kinda changes would I be looking at if I did this would it be worth it I mean honestly is it as beast as the rumors I've heard or is it a p.o.s and I should concider a different phone
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Is it worth it ? depends on what it costs & what other device options are on offer.
HD2 is good for a cheap price, plenty of fun for a flashing junkie.
Downsides are: 1100Mah battery, no TV out, screen & motherboard issues are too common, sound quality is not the best, device can get hot very quickly.
I got my T-Mob version cheap but if paying close to full price it is out classed by other options.
1230 mAh battery, not 1100.
It's a good buy for a flashing junkie. And yeah, it's fast. It's the best Windows Mobile device and very good and fast Android/WP7 device. Of course there are faster and newer (and more expensive and not capable of multi OS), but there are also tons of slower devices.
Mister B pointed out downsides so... yeah, that's pretty it.
It would definitely satisy for disorder. On the note on whether it is fast. Yes it is fast, however your evo 3d should be a bit snappier.
To be honest, you won't find another phone with all these opportunities like the HD2, so if it's a ride you're looking for, this will give you one hell of a.
In terms of the best performance, you should look else where I suppose.
So its a great phone but like all phones has its issues (undrstandable) so aslong as I get it cheap then yes its worth it if not then find something else gotcha thanks every1 you helped me and I think I will be joining your community very soon jw is the android fully functional? And is it swype compatible?
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Swype is fully functional and Android, well, that depends on the ROM you pick. But on the whole, Android works very well on the HD2 (as does WP7 too).
I am on my second HD2, the first one being stolen after 6 months. I didn't want any other phone as a replacement. It HAD to be another HD2. For me, it's the best phone I have ever had and the most versatile that has ever been built. For a flash-junkie, it has to be the best phone in the world! Android either via SD or NAND, WP7 NAND, Ubuntu and Meego (the latter still rather wobbly) and of course WinMo 6.5 factory installed. You can still get them new via Amazon and co, but expect to pay about €450 - not cheap for a phone that is over 18 months on the market. Just goes to show that it is still a desirable piece of kit
seeing as you said your a flash junky like most of us here than def go for it. i barely got mine thursday after school and im coming from a captivate and you would have to be doing some really intensive stuff to see any lag what so ever and since your coming from a evo shift there really isnt much of a difference between it and the hd2 plus you can dual boot!!!!
not worth every cent (hryvnia) i paid.
i keed, i keed =P
Many good quality used ones from $200 - $250. Well worth it. This is the only handset I need till SGSII hits TMOUS.
And yes they can be fast with the Android ROMs
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HD2 is a very nice phone. If you want to try different operating systems, it's the only choice. If you already know what you want, choose a new one with native operating system of your choice, if possible, dual core.
Used phone seems to be a very good choice nowadays, because people update their phones much too often.
It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
Correction, they don't utilize the full power of the processor. Meaning whilst its not operating both cores, both are still being used, just one is a helper.
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It's awesome, I've switched to HD7, Vibrant and Nexus 1, and the HD2 buries them all in terms of flexibility, power and is a very well constructed device, glass and metal. I don't understand why folk say Evo has more power, isn't it the same hardware wise? The new 2ghz phones aren't valid yet as I read
most app's don't utilize the processor...besides, you know once you buy virtually any other phone, it will be stuck on gingerbread and have far less roms than XDA has for the HD2...
I love my HD2 and will for a long time coming..
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Very well said, I will hold onto mine until it completely dies. Then I eill still try to fix it if repair parts are still avaliable.
At the OP, the HD2 is the beast you have read about. The HD2 falls short of nothing except maybe undo able hardware mods like no font facing camera and no TV out. It can handle almost anything you throw at it software wize and hang right in there with the native devices of what ever OS you use with it. I would dare say ot was the introduction device and is the intruduction device for several people who knew nothing ofcthe mobile development community and giving some pretty awsome crash courses. I am ome myself, now I know a good bit about Windows Mobile, learning like a ton about Android right now, and will try Windows Phone 7 eventually. I use Android for my daily driver now. I do not think my life would be the same without my HD2 now.
Much as I like my hd2, there are a couple of drawbacks: 65k dual touch screen & shonky GPS. Battery could be bigger too, but that goes for most androids.
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I just started using the HD2 with Android and I'm blown away. My house mate wants to swap his iphone 4. I love the voice commands with google. Swype is amazing. I've used the Navigation feature which worked right away. It seems like there is nothing the phone can't do, coming from a Blackberry perspective.
I find that the phone is very fast.
i own an hd2. i tried the stock rom, customized stock rom, and 2 android builds. as for android, the cam and camcorder suck, theyre not asd sharp as on the stock rom. battery on droid sucks too. and call quality is very bad.
on a customized rom, the call quality sucks, cam is horrible, and batt drains a lot, but it does look good. and this is what i dont understand. why is fluff taken out of a custom rom then its cam and batt suck?
on the stock rom, batt is better than custom rom and android. call quality sucks but a patch can reduce the static greatly. everything else works sharply and perfect. but, it lacks apps.. and this is what kills the phone.
hope this helps.
According to me, the only things that go against the phone are the fact that it has no front cam, the screen is just a 65k and the speaker could have been a wee bit louder. Everything else software related has been or will soon be sorted out by the good folks at XDA. If you can accept the hardware limitations, take the plunge man. This phone is a flash junkies dream.
My hd2 is my first smartphone (comming from a old nokia) i still use my hd2 as a normal 'call & be called' phone
litle by little im feeling comfortable with the bazillion options
i got it cheap for 150 euro (+- 200$) in original/clean state .
This is my second hd2 and it is well worth it...it is a very fast phone when flashed to android
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after my digitizer suddenly died out of nowhere and found out that this is a known issue to all HD2s, no its not worth it
Hey guys,
Can you share your overall feeling with the usage of the phone so far? I have seen O2x users complaining how badly their phone is and would like to know the general feeling of S2 users.
Thanks in advance.
....there are plenty of threads with ppl giving their opinions on this phone? Why don't you read a little more?
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Or we could leave our opinion as he asked.
I have many issues with this one but they are all related to software, and i will be applying root to my one so it does not bother me.
But i was using an iphone 4 and it isn't as smooth a transition, wifi is chewing battery, but that's really all .
But i love the freedom of the os so i will suck it up for now.
If you're considering an O2X, run, run fast and far. I had its illegitimate offspring the G2X and it was hands-down the worst phone I've ever owned. The price for it in the U.S. has dropped to "free" with new service and it's been out for only five weeks. I've only had my phone since Monday but so far I like it a lot. I (knock on wood) don't seem to be having the battery issues others are and I expect the SGS2 to get about 16 hours with moderate usage. It's been getting 11-12 with me on it constantly tinkering. Also, Samsung's already issued two updates so I'd imagine things will only get better. If you want a high-end phone the Sensation will be out soon. I think that's a more relevant comparison than anything produced by LG.
Not overly impressed with mine.
I originally came from an iphone 4, had a HTC Desire HD for a few days, til someone at work made me an offer I couldn't refuse for it.
Then I bought the S2.
As much as the S2 is a better equipped phone
i.e
Camera
Dual Core
Better Battery
AMOLED screen
I still prefer the user interface etc of the HTC
I would say try the sensation when available, but apparently its Locked for modding.
I am considering the Optimus 3D myself as the S2's are fetching more money on fleabay than I orignally paid.
All I can suggest is try before you buy if possible.
Devices ive owned in the last year.
Samsung Vibrant(Most consistently used)
HTC HD2( Love the modding)
Atrix(POS device, this made my decision easier but decent battery life)
LG G2x(Decent device, wasnt impressed)
Motorola Milestone(My favorite)
Xperia X10(decent device, great music player)
Iphone 4(my fiance phone)
I have absolutely none of the problems that other users are having. Ive had it for 2-3 weeks now. My battery life is amazing and getting through my workday plus some. My screen is very vibrant and have no issues. Size/Weight is perfect for me and device feels very sturdy. No lag whatsoever and apps run very smoothly with no crashes since owning. I can only see this device getting better with age once developement start. We have some great Devs coming to work with the sgs2.
I dont think much of iphones and I think this is the phone to beat. I like the look of sense but I think it lost alot of functionality since window mobile days. We all have to wait and see what the htc sensation has to offer. I think it will be the usual htc offering, 3steps forward 2steps back.
The only real con for alot of people is the non support for games without tegra 2 processors. But I dont care for games much(not enough time) aslong as Live Holdem Poker and angry birds work.
impressions
excitement at first then boredom now excitement again looks like this phone is going to be a ripper when all the guru's start to work on it----roms themes etc etc
Besides the GPS, data, screen and battery issues, this thing rocks!
FishTaco said:
Besides the GPS, data, screen and battery issues, this thing rocks!
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Let's play a game. I'll go first. Assuming there are at least a hundred thousand SGS2's in the wild already, what percentage do you think have the problems you indicated?
GPS - My guess is <10% and the cause has still not been isolated and isn't consistent
Data - My guess is <15% with an unknown amount attributed to specific carrier, SIM, or router issues
Screen - My guess is <2%
Battery - <25% and again, some people are getting appropriate performance for an Amoled dual-core phone meaning it's not a universal problem
The first three work great for me and battery seems OK so far but I want to use the phone normally (instead of constantly playing with it) before declaring victory.
P.S. - I see in the Sensation vs. SGS2 thread you're getting a Sensation. Let's see what the front page of the Sensation board looks like three weeks after launch. Especially considering it'll be loaded with T-Mobile crapware and specific changes they've demanded of HTC. I hope for both T-Mobile and its customers that the launch goes better than the G2X launch.
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Let's play a game. I'll go first. Assuming there are at least a hundred thousand SGS2's in the wild already, what percentage do you think have the problems you indicated?
GPS - My guess is <10% and the cause has still not been isolated and isn't consistent
Data - My guess is <15% with an unknown amount attributed to specific carrier, SIM, or router issues
Screen - My guess is <2%
Battery - <25% and again, some people are getting appropriate performance for an Amoled dual-core phone meaning it's not a universal problem
The first three work great for me and battery seems OK so far but I want to use the phone normally (instead of constantly playing with it) before declaring victory.
P.S. - I see in the Sensation vs. SGS2 thread you're getting a Sensation. Let's see what the front page of the Sensation board looks like three weeks after launch. Especially considering it'll be loaded with T-Mobile crapware and specific changes they've demanded of HTC. I hope for both T-Mobile and its customers that the launch goes better than the G2X launch.
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I am lost, whose side are you on??
You claim that between 24.999% and 51.999% of all SGS2 have some kind of a problem?
The SGS2 is going to be the HD2 of 2009.
It's the first phone out with all the top specs that from now, will set the standard.
HTC do NOT have amoled or a 1.2ghz dual core cpu.
I have been a big fan of HTC since I had the XDA EXEC. But sadly HTC have not done anything that great recently. I am also not a fan of the htc Sense.
I have used the HD2 for the past two years and this was my introduction to android too.
the SGS2 is my first native android device and, Whilst I didnt like touchwiz that much at first (Has a very much Iphone-esk feel to it) I have soon learnt how to get around it, and how to use the different connectivity modes (Kies 2.0/Kies air etc)
This phone is outstanding, And Samsung have done them selves proud.
The general feel of the phone makes you think its a cheap dummy phone. Its all plastic and SOOO light, It only seems to weigh as much as the battery does.
The screen is just brilliant, Great colours and amazing blacks, When the screen is black it blends so well with the screen bezel that it looks like there is no screen. If you have a few icons against a black screen, It looks like they are stickers planted on - It's that good!!!
I have a friend who is a big Apple Iphone fan, He has just come from the Iphone 4 and really loves it for how smooth and responsive it is. He did say he wished there was more pixles and he also seems to have an issue with how fast the battery dies - But he uses the phone purely for the internet, generally watching tons of flash in desktop mode. It runs as well as a PC, it's that good!
This forum is picking up fast and quite frankly I cant wait to see what roms come about, this phone is future proof and blows every other phone out of the water. Try running an N64 emulator with 0 frame skip - It's flawless. Try that on a Desire HD, It's laggy really bad. The dual core really comes into its own here.
Amazing phone, Amazing screen, Similar battery consumption as a HD2, Great UI when you get used to it and great connectivity for getting your files off your phone. Oh, And 16GB internal memory!... Wow!
Amazing phone so far. Battery life is good eniugh to get me through a day and loving the fact samsung pre installed 'my files' and 'downloads'. I do like the touchwiz app drawer a lot because of folders and horizontal scrolling. The only thing i would want on this phone would be the ability to set default homescreen on TW. Or someone could make a sense 3.0 ROM?
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Thanks for your inputs guys. I certainly have a better idea of whether to get this phone or the nexus s. Battery life is a very big factor to my phone criteria.
Thanks once again.
I'm thinking about trading my Nexus One for the HD2....is it worth it??? Is the development on the decline?? Is the hd2 still suffering from freezing issues??? Does android run good enough to be used as my daily os? ??
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Anyone???
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Depends on price.
Dev is slow because its pretty much perfect now.
Camera isnt great
What's wrong with the camera? ??
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I don't think I'm alone when I say I would trade for the HD2. What a powerhorse of a phone! I have been running sd android for as long as I can remember now. There are still good android developers working on roms. If my HD2 died tomorrow, I would move he** and highwater to get me another one.
Thx for the comments guys....also I'm a huge Android fan but I love the form factor and screen size on the hd2.....do you guys think it'll run Ice Cream Sandwich a.k.a. Android 4.0???
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If you're going under contract for 2 years for it, then HD2 is not a good buy.
But if you buy it from amazon for 300 or get it used for less than 200 (must be good quality), then yes, it's a great buy.
Probably 6 different good roms you can change it to. Perfect for someone that doesn't need top of the line or can wait for things to get cheaper.
Keep in mind quad core is coming out just around the corner
Don't think our beautifull HD2 will support Android 4.
It now arrives to the limits of his technology.
But right now, it remains a marvellous toy if you want to test Android (of all kind), WP7 and so on...
with newer devices...more like HD2 Good Bye !!!
If you're good with on-screen keyboards and know your way around NAND android installation and rom loading, then yes its amazing, I just traded mine for a G2 cuz I wanted a keyboard
Being Cool from my HTC G2 running CM7
Android runs awesome on HD2 (select a stable 2.3.4)
jm5503 said:
I'm thinking about trading my Nexus One for the HD2....is it worth it??? Is the development on the decline?? Is the hd2 still suffering from freezing issues??? Does android run good enough to be used as my daily os? ??
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Let me answer, as someone who just recently bought HD2 (after a lot of choosing).
-Android runs PERFECTLY, just like it was meant to be. Everything is supported and I've experienced no bugs or freezes so far, at all.
-Despite age, hardware on this device is still good. 576MB ram is more than in some new high-end devices (Droid 3 anyone?). 1Ghz Snapdragon makes everything snappy (like, real fast!). Connectivity options are stellar (bluetooth, wifi, A-GPS, HSDPA - everything) and 4.3" screen is HEAVEN.
So overall it's still very good buy. I dare to say that it's the BEST buy today, second-hand and in this price range (htc desire hd is comparable, perhaps a bit better, but also somewhat more expensive).
Now, comparing it to Nexus One:
-Both phones have the same SoC and almost identical performance
-Both have very big development community working - don't worry about getting new versions of Android
-4.3" screen of HD2 IS worth it. I've used these two in comparison and boy, difference is big. You'll never want to use smaller screen again.
-I like hardware buttons of HD2 much more than capacitive ones on N1
Summing it up I say go for it.
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Let me answer, as someone who just recently bought HD2 (after a lot of choosing).
-Android runs PERFECTLY, just like it was meant to be. Everything is supported and I've experienced no bugs or freezes so far, at all.
-Despite age, hardware on this device is still good. 576MB ram is more than in some new high-end devices (Droid 3 anyone?). 1Ghz Snapdragon makes everything snappy (like, real fast!). Connectivity options are stellar (bluetooth, wifi, A-GPS, HSDPA - everything) and 4.3" screen is HEAVEN.
So overall it's still very good buy. I dare to say that it's the BEST buy today, second-hand and in this price range (htc desire hd is comparable, perhaps a bit better, but also somewhat more expensive).
Now, comparing it to Nexus One:
-Both phones have the same SoC and almost identical performance
-Both have very big development community working - don't worry about getting new versions of Android
-4.3" screen of HD2 IS worth it. I've used these two in comparison and boy, difference is big. You'll never want to use smaller screen again.
-I like hardware buttons of HD2 much more than capacitive ones on N1
Summing it up I say go for it.
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i second that
I agree with floating_point_unit,
Furthermore, we can easilly extend the RAM memory with EXT partition on the SD card.
No more problems of memory limit!
well let me chuck in my tuppence.
I had my hd2, my first ever phone, for over a year. i then managed to crack the screen. so i needed a replacement phone. I looked around did some research and in the end i bought.......
yup you guessed it a second hand hd2. I was torn though because i wanted a tmous one. It cost me £130 i sold my cracked phone for £100 it was the second best phone purchase i made. The best being the first hd2.
i have been running android 2.3.4 for a couple of months and it does white screen me once every couple of weeks and i get a force close every week or so. I think this is more due to launcher pro than the phone.
I personally love my hd2 and the development for it is still pretty much alive.
i love my hd2 the size of the screen compaired to the nexus is amazing . . . im running TyphooN CyanogenMod and recieve regular updates and a very stable rom
there's not many phones out there that are as capable and versatile as he HD2, talk about having choices of operating systems and performance. i think it can keep up with pretty much anything out there at this point.
it can run, windows 6 (6.5), windows 7, android, ubuntu, meego, windows 95, windows 98 etc.... u can install from NAND or run off the SD. choices are endless and at this point if my HD2 was to die, i'd go get another HD2 asap.
but there are some nice new phones coming out now, just nothing to go crazy over... not for yet anyways
rlee
nay thi 10 bai viet
vm54 said:
I agree with floating_point_unit,
Furthermore, we can easilly extend the RAM memory with EXT partition on the SD card.
No more problems of memory limit!
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What are you talking about?
sd-ext extends ROM memory not RAM lol
I joined this forum actually to get some android help from ya'll you see well I live in Brazil and my parents in the USA, so I dropped my iPhone 3G (yes 3G not 3GS) and the touch screen cracked, so I would like to know from you guys that have more experience with Android if the Nexus One is a good phone still - compared that I only had a iPhone 3G which is not that great nowadays lol. So like the title of the topic says, is the nexus one still a good phone to this day compared at least to my old phone?
The community is also very active with updating it to the latest android it seems, and besides all I do with my phone is send SMS, read e-books and play Angry Birds and other games of that type, and a better camera would be welcome also.
Thanks
Yes, the Nexus One is an awesome today still, but something that's a tad annoying is the power button. It might start to fail relatively early or just completely die and a replacement costs as much as a used Nexus One.
Rody2k6 said:
I joined this forum actually to get some android help from ya'll you see well I live in Brazil and my parents in the USA, so I dropped my iPhone 3G (yes 3G not 3GS) and the touch screen cracked, so I would like to know from you guys that have more experience with Android if the Nexus One is a good phone still - compared that I only had a iPhone 3G which is not that great nowadays lol. So like the title of the topic says, is the nexus one still a good phone to this day compared at least to my old phone?
The community is also very active with updating it to the latest android it seems, and besides all I do with my phone is send SMS, read e-books and play Angry Birds and other games of that type, and a better camera would be welcome also.
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No, the n1 is crap compared to new phones, buy the desire hd much better processor (1.5 ghz), Hd camera's, 1gb internal memory, etc etc.
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Yes, the Nexus One is an awesome today still, but something that's a tad annoying is the power button. It might start to fail relatively early or just completely die and a replacement costs as much as a used Nexus One.
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I read online that if you root your phone, you can use the trackball to power it on and other methods, does it still apply to the latest version of android that N1 runs?
race55 said:
No, the n1 is crap compared to new phones, buy the desire hd much better processor (1.5 ghz), Hd camera's, 1gb internal memory, etc etc.
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and is not about newer or such it is more about cost and as I am in Brazil, the phones here are expensive and I don't have much to work with anyways, so the N1 is a good and very affordable option and already comes unlock, well I could root the Desire HD but hey, the N1 already comes unblocked lol
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I read online that if you root your phone, you can use the trackball to power it on and other methods, does it still apply to the latest version of android that N1 runs?
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To be able to unlock your screen with either the volume buttons or the trackball itself, you would need to flash a custom ROM.
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To be able to unlock your screen with either the volume buttons or the trackball itself, you would need to flash a custom ROM.
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That would be where cyanogenmod would come in right?
Rody2k6 said:
That would be where cyanogenmod would come in right?
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You learn fast ^^
I would recommend partitioning your sdcard (512mb-1gb ext4, no swap, no secondary ext) through 4ext recovery and then install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416894
First wipe everything three times (just to be sure)
Then install through 4ext
race55 said:
No, the n1 is crap compared to new phones, buy the desire hd much better processor (1.5 ghz), Hd camera's, 1gb internal memory, etc etc.
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I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not the planet called "Reality." I have a SGSII and it has all of these great specs, but quite honestly, it's an inferior phone to the Nexus One. The Galaxy nexus and the Nexus S just blow it away.
There are so many things you can do with native android that you either can't do or are just a plain old pain in the ass compared to my nexus one.
The only things the Galaxy S II has on the N1 are internet speed (only in certain areas), camera and screen size/brightness.
Get the N1 and don't listen to spec hounds. Specs don't mean crap.
Estimated Prophet Hawk said:
I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not the planet called "Reality." I have a SGSII and it has all of these great specs, but quite honestly, it's an inferior phone to the Nexus One. The Galaxy nexus and the Nexus S just blow it away.
There are so many things you can do with native android that you either can't do or are just a plain old pain in the ass compared to my nexus one.
The only things the Galaxy S II has on the N1 are internet speed (only in certain areas), camera and screen size/brightness.
Get the N1 and don't listen to spec hounds. Specs don't mean crap.
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I believe you're the one that needs reality check.
A phone with extremely annoying and non-repairable touchscreen problem, faulty power button construction that makes it vulnerable and prone to failure, lousy sub-par GPU, slow USB transfer speeds, and you're suggesting it over much newer and better ones?
And to the OS argument - plain Android OS, at least till ICS, is crap - and IMHO, ICS adds nothing in exactly those areas that need adding. Any overlay will add LOTS of capabilities to it - be is crappy TouchWiz 3, much better TouchWiz 4 or also much better Sense 3/3.5. I posted enough comparisons of my own that show exactly where and how pure Android or CyanogenMod fall short and can't reach, no matter how you try.
Shortly - for the price of used or new N1, there are MUCH better options today. Sorry to disappoint.
It's not a bad phone, and some of my friends are still using it. Its quirks are livable with, if you don't demand gaming capabilities, and if you don't mind to occasionally turn off/on the screen when everything messes up, especially during navigation. If you already have it, there isn't much pressure to upgrade, if you can live with it. But if you're making your decision today - N1 is a bad decision.
And personally, neither me nor my wife found its quirks to be livable with. I lived with it for a year, because there were no better options at the time. My wife moved to another phone after 3 or 4 months.
If you want a good phone - see what fits your network. Being in Brazil, you probably need 850/1900MHz band phones, and all good MSM8x55 family models (Desire HD, Desire S, Desire Z/G2, MyTouch 4G/HTC Panache) are 900/2100 or 1700/2100 band. If some of those models exist with the bands you need - the suggestion is indeed to move to one of those. It'll be completely another world from Nexus One.
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Specs don't mean crap.
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Way to lose all credibility in four words.
There are plenty of phones that came out after the nexus one that are better candidates. As others have said, the nexus one has a few too many hardware flaws that make it really crappy as a daily phone versus being a nice tinkering phone. The buggy digitizer and abysmal internal storage are two things that irritate me daily.
I would recommend checking out the Sony Ericsson Neo. The mytouch 4g is nice too; also known as the htc panache. If your budget is really tight you can look at the LG optimus one or something equivalent. You will still get the Google services with tradeoffs of using manufacturers' skins.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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There are plenty of phones that came out after the nexus one that are better candidates.
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This.
As much as I love my Nexus One (power button and touch screen problems do not affect me that much), I wouldn't buy one now. Other phones with equal or better performance are in the same price range.
Jack_R1 said:
Shortly - for the price of used or new N1, there are MUCH better options today. Sorry to disappoint.
It's not a bad phone, and some of my friends are still using it. Its quirks are livable with, if you don't demand gaming capabilities, and if you don't mind to occasionally turn off/on the screen when everything messes up, especially during navigation. If you already have it, there isn't much pressure to upgrade, if you can live with it. But if you're making your decision today - N1 is a bad decision.
If you want a good phone - see what fits your network. Being in Brazil, you probably need 850/1900MHz band phones, and all good MSM8x55 family models (Desire HD, Desire S, Desire Z/G2, MyTouch 4G/HTC Panache) are 900/2100 or 1700/2100 band. If some of those models exist with the bands you need - the suggestion is indeed to move to one of those. It'll be completely another world from Nexus One.
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My iPhone 3G that I let it fall and crack the touchscreen -.- I mainly used it for sending SMS and calling, reading ebooks, and playing games such as Angry Birds, Jetpack Joyride, so nothing heavy on the phone, hell I barely used the camera since I always had my digital with me when I wanted to take a picture.
And I totally forgot about the BAND stuff, because when I bought my iPhone 3G to Brazil from the USA, I just unlocked it and voila I was using it, so now you got me, and I was reading a topic (not on this forum) about the Galaxy Europa (or Galaxy 5) and there is many differente basebands you can download, so I don't know if specific basebands only apply to Android phones or all phones, and I just got lucky with me iPhone 3G
needmoregigs said:
There are plenty of phones that came out after the nexus one that are better candidates. As others have said, the nexus one has a few too many hardware flaws that make it really crappy as a daily phone versus being a nice tinkering phone. The buggy digitizer and abysmal internal storage are two things that irritate me daily.
I would recommend checking out the Sony Ericsson Neo. The mytouch 4g is nice too; also known as the htc panache. If your budget is really tight you can look at the LG optimus one or something equivalent. You will still get the Google services with tradeoffs of using manufacturers' skins.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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Thanks mate, I will check on them, currently on eBay I see Nexus Ones going around for 70-100
mostly are around the 80s, so if I do buy one for 80 bucks is it worth it? The chances of having a headache with the phone are they common?
If there are any other phones in the same range @ eBay 80-100 (max 110) could you guys please help me out
Thanks
EDIT: Internal Storage, but can't you use a microSD card and plug it into the phone and it will extend its memory, or is the SDcard only used for certains items and the internal for other stuff - but isn't there something that lets you choose the partition size?
mighty nexusone
nexusone in question is an HTC phone made carefully for Google for developing android os in its first days and was the best in those days and still it is one of the best ones i believe, you just have to bear crappy start button which in some phones fail to operate and the Sonys freaky super LCD screen seen on late models. in my option super amoled screens are waaay better which can be seen on first models which i believe are better in quality from the newer ones ı used both and the early model which ı still keep as a spare phone is still working with no problems while the late model one which i sold did had problems with screen digitization and start button and comparing two of them ı sold the newer model as ı kept the older one so if you are buying a nexusone it is like lotary you can be lucky or unlucky depending the factory conditions while it is been made if you ask me i would recomend to buy one with amoled screen and buy it by seeing and touching it fizically.. but with the money you may spend on a nexus you can get a samsung galaxy S 16 gb and it will run flawlessly the new versions of android and plenty of memory in it if you are in to games with its 3d engine it will be great for you while you can keep lots of books to read in its huge memory yes it is not good looking as nexusone but it will last longer because it is plastic and drop resistant because of it....coming from iphone you will get use to it quicker since they look similar goodluck
I have been checking the price of nexus one in ebay for the last few days, it seemed that the ones in the 80-100 range mostly have problems while a functional ones will cost you 130-150 at least. I would highly suggest you to get a mytouch 4g instead for around 150.
mahmutmuratdemir said:
nexusone in question is an HTC phone made carefully for Google for developing android os in its first days and was the best in those days and still it is one of the best ones i believe, you just have to bear crappy start button which in some phones fail to operate and the Sonys freaky super LCD screen seen on late models. in my option super amoled screens are waaay better which can be seen on first models which i believe are better in quality from the newer ones ı used both and the early model which ı still keep as a spare phone is still working with no problems while the late model one which i sold did had problems with screen digitization and start button and comparing two of them ı sold the newer model as ı kept the older one so if you are buying a nexusone it is like lotary you can be lucky or unlucky depending the factory conditions while it is been made if you ask me i would recomend to buy one with amoled screen and buy it by seeing and touching it fizically.. but with the money you may spend on a nexus you can get a samsung galaxy S 16 gb and it will run flawlessly the new versions of android and plenty of memory in it if you are in to games with its 3d engine it will be great for you while you can keep lots of books to read in its huge memory yes it is not good looking as nexusone but it will last longer because it is plastic and drop resistant because of it....coming from iphone you will get use to it quicker since they look similar goodluck
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Today I found an AMOLED Nexus One on ebay for sale, and it says it is the T-Mobile one but it is still unlocked to other GSM carriers worldwide right?
The Galaxy S is bit to pricey for my budget at the moment.
neozengar said:
I have been checking the price of nexus one in ebay for the last few days, it seemed that the ones in the 80-100 range mostly have problems while a functional ones will cost you 130-150 at least. I would highly suggest you to get a mytouch 4g instead for around 150.
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MyTouch 4G I have not been able to find one for 150, but seen many 200 and up (way up)
Estimated Prophet Hawk said:
I don't know what planet you live on, but it's not the planet called "Reality." I have a SGSII and it has all of these great specs, but quite honestly, it's an inferior phone to the Nexus One. The Galaxy nexus and the Nexus S just blow it away.
There are so many things you can do with native android that you either can't do or are just a plain old pain in the ass compared to my nexus one.
The only things the Galaxy S II has on the N1 are internet speed (only in certain areas), camera and screen size/brightness.
Get the N1 and don't listen to spec hounds. Specs don't mean crap.
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I did not metion samsung as i know they are crappy. I have both n1 and Desire HD and Desire HD just outpreforms the n1 on every aspect. The n1 is still a good phone, but not a good choice to buy right now.
race55 said:
I did not metion samsung as i know they are crappy. I have both n1 and Desire HD and Desire HD just outpreforms the n1 on every aspect. The n1 is still a good phone, but not a good choice to buy right now.
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Right now it is not the best choice. Definetly you can find better phones around. But we are talking about a smartphone quite old. But I love it, great community even if now the interest on this phone is gradually decreasing.
Sorry. Didn't mean to start a flame. I should have been more respectful in my words.
That said. The Galaxy S II Hercules would be a great phone if it had dev support or native android. Since it doesn't it loses a lot for me.
The Nexus One Desktop Dock is fantastic. There's no bloatware and the phone is pretty fast. Again, it may not have the specs of nearly all phones coming out today, but being a developer phone with native android makes it very competitive with most. When your talking about spending less than $200 for one versus $800 for the super phones of today, to me, it's a no brainer.
I'm using the GSII because it's faster and has a bigger brighter screen, but the bloatware & TouchWiz are just awful. After 48 hours with the phone, I rooted it and found that the choices for ROMs were paltry. I'm running "Dewizzed" and the battery drains in 10 hours.
No matter what the specs are I find these issues very troubling and dang near unacceptable.
I'm saving my sheckles for another Nexus. Either the S or the Galaxy...maybe both.
So is it safe to assume that on a tight budget of 80-100 bucks the best bet would be to buy a Nexus One (since it is already unlocked, and not a bad phone and great community support and hell even made it to use the 2.3.7) Also I would acquire one that was in good condition and with charger batteries and etc
So is my notion above right?