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Unresponsive touchscreen on some points.

After using the new SGTab 2 7" I have experiencing the touchscreen is unresponsive in some occasions.
For example closing the tabs in the brrowser on the X mark is very hard, both in the stock browser and Chrome.
When I try to clear my mssage in the bottom right corner, it also doesn't recognize my touch on various occasions.
It seems to me that along the edges of the screen, the touches are harder to recognize. Have any of you recognized this problem aswell?
After reading a review on Techradar.com, this passage stood out for me:
''Disappointingly, we found the touchscreen experience to be a little sub-par. The sensitivity of the display was lower than we expected, and we found it hard to register presses on small parts of the browser, such as links, and the close tab button.''
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I encountered the same fault/defect on my Tab2 10.1
especially on small objects,
but it seems not to be constant.
meaning it generally works, but sometime i have to press multiple times to activate the selected button or object.

I found that fingerprints really lower the sensitivity of the screen. If you wipe off the screen after prolonged use, the touch experience will be much better. I verified this using a touch recognition program.
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matt30 said:
I found that fingerprints really lower the sensitivity of the screen. If you wipe off the screen after prolonged use, the touch experience will be much better. I verified this using a touch recognition program.
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Yeah I wipe and I wipe haha..on all my devices. But it seems worse on this device, compared to all others even though I clean very often.
Cheers for your suggestion though
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thats true
some times happens to me too in youte app, i notice it only there still.

Same thing here, it gets incredibly frustrating for me. It's very noticeable trying to close a tab.
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Is it a hardware or software issue?

Software...lately it doesn't happen anymore..on and off
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Got mine today. And ive been fine, then again i have a crappy screen protector lol.

After rooting and flash a custom rom on p5100, everything is OK. Become responsive. So I believe Samsung touchwiz on ics might be the cause of the problem.

Yeah me too not satisfied with the samsung touch wiz...but I don't think I am having problem with touch screen...though it is not as smooth as with iPhone 4...
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Do you have a screen protector on? Mine was crappy with it on, so i removed it.
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Had this problem when I was on Stock. Not dead touch points but it was more like an inability to sense my touch due to lag due to touchwiz. Changing to nova launcher helped... And then.... Tried CM9 rom and all is well. Not sure if you wanna take that route but for me... It worked. I am a happy camper!
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Is there a way to calibrate the screen on the T2 10.1?

After 10 minutes of reckless racing 2, the screen gets unresponsive, i think it might be something to do with the battery or cpu getting hot, I am using the stock modified rom from metallice

HTML emails

I love my android phones (Galaxy Nexus and my old Droid Incredible), but the one major thing that has always bugged me is how HTML emails don't fit on screen. Scrolling around in the email just to see everything is a major pain. Does Apple have a patent on resizing emails?
Anyway, how do HTML emails look on the Nexus 7? Do you still have to scroll around or do they usually fit on screen?

On my phone I often accidentally go the next or previous email by trying to scroll left and right respectively. So yes, it's a pain!
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So how do the emails look on your 7? Do they fit on the larger screen, or do you still need to scroll around?
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Having just tried a few I still have to scroll around on my n7. Nowhere near as much scrolling but still scrolling nonetheless. Before you pointed it out I wouldn't have noticed how annoying it is!
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Pinch to zoom quick sand?

Thinking about the N4 as a secondary phone but I played with one in the T-Mobile store and noticed that pinch to zoom seemed to be pretty unresponsive and disappointing and that's putting it lightly. When pinching to zoom it felt as if I was moving my fingers through quick sand. It was as if my fingers had to literally transverse half of the entire screen before the phone started to react. Can anyone else confirm this? Like I said, this will be my secondary phone and my primary will be an iPhone 5 so I will going back and forth between the 2 phones often which will make the poor responsiveness even more noticeable and bloody annoying since the iPhone is very responsive and accurate in this department. So now I'm rethinking my purchase of this phone. Again can anyone confirm this??? Thanks

mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.

Its like people are just finding reason not to buy this phone cause it has real issues or they just like to complain....personal I think your all crazy . My coworker got his nexus 4 last week and its ****ing awesome the camera in HDR mode is amazing the data speeds are top notch and the screen is responsive. I don't know it everyone and there mama was playing with the display phone at T-Mobile ,but here a story I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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There was another thread on this yesterday - this is actually Google almost certainly designing around someone else's patent on touchscreen usage. They probably figured that what was going on in older versions was too close to Apple's or someone else's precise method for interpreting multitouch input, so they designed something effective but different enough to avoid litigation. There's a reason why neither Apple nor Microsoft have sued Google directly over Android - Google designs around patents pretty well.

I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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stormtroopercs said:
mine doesn't do this. it is very responsive.. are you talking about having to go out farther when zooming in? i think they designed the zoom in to occur after your fingers have spread over a certain distance so you don't accidentally zoom in when you don't mean to.
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but why should you zoom in accidentally? you use two fingers to zoom..
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Falzar said:
I was playing with a Gs3 at T-Mobile and found pictures of a girls ***** on it .
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Epic
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italia0101 said:
I wrote about this yday... Seriously. . try Firefox
Also , qickpix for gallery doesnt have the issue either
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I hear ya, but even still it'd pretty annoying and making me think before I buy. Honestly I'm a stock app kinda guy. I like the stock apps, I actually want to use Chrome but I can't, I want to use the stock gallery since it would be more integrated but I can't without this bug/feature this will also make using Google maps bloody annoying more than anything as when using maps there is a lot of zooming in and out. I'm wondering if other ROMs have this issue with the N4 or not.... Hmmm... That would be an indicator if there was more of a real issue/hardware level issue or not. Wondering if Cyanogen, Paranoid, or AOKP would have the same issue...

this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.

elliot.newnham said:
this is such a moot issue based completely on software filtering/calibration of your touches. Capacitors are hyper sensitive to touches, so much so that you have to tone it down and filter out all the noise... You can easily go into the software and figure out where the pinch-zoom controls are and fix them...
I am running codefireX's build and my pinch to zoom works perfectly in gallery, chrome, maps, camera. Registers my touch input no mater what I try.
If this is a deal breaker for you, I would be more worried about thermal throttling issues tbh... Those are actually hardware related.
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So you're saying right out of the box you can go into settings and configure pin h to zoom to react immediately rather than after transversing half the screen before it starts reacting?

Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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elliot.newnham said:
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Awesome . hopefully Google will fix it for stock users
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elliot.newnham said:
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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Which ROM and could you perhaps record a video for us?

elliot.newnham said:
Well, this is xda developers where we hack software and improve it for our own uses. Its part of the fun. You would have to get into the kernel for that
pinch zoom on my ROM setup right now begins the second I place 2 fingers on the screeb
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I'd like to know wHich ROM that is as well. I ordered my N4 but I definitely want to fix this before I do anything as.

Is this screen lag still apparent on the N4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVDMOP1pWCQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This is the main advantage of the iPhone for me, feels like a more connected experience.
If this was solved for the N4 I'd get one straight away without waiting till May 15th..
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I don't have a lag problem .
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Just compared it to my cousins iPhone 4s . my nexus is way faster!
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It appears on web pages it is laggy.. Not super smooth.
Like if you were to flip thru a book really fast lol.
Although this could be do to the browser..
I'm fling to test a few browser's & report back lol
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Opera mini seems to be allot faster/smother!
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The aosp browser and dolphin browser are wicked smooth and responsive for me.

I don't have any noticeable lag in dolphin but I'm not filming myself at 120fps and then slowing it down to find out.

threeclaws said:
I don't have any noticeable lag in dolphin but I'm not filming myself at 120fps and then slowing it down to find out.
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The degree people goto to find a problem is pretty sad sometimes

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The degree people goto to find a problem is pretty sad sometimes
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I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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On idevices, the web page is like glued on fingers, especially when you zoom, on android, there is like a micro delay, but its not a problem at all.
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When you open and close the statut bar fastly, you can see this delay, If you enable "show touch" under developer setting, you see that the cursor isn't under you finger when you move et. But you see this delay if you move fastly and on in long surface (when opening the statut bar from the top to the bottom of the screen)
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shure2 said:
I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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Wait! An s3 films at 120fps ?
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SerkSerk said:
When you open and close the statut bar fastly, you can see this delay, If you enable "show touch" under developer setting, you see that the cursor isn't under you finger when you move et. But you see this delay if you move fastly and on in long surface (when opening the statut bar from the top to the bottom of the screen)
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This is a good example of what I'm taking about. If you swipe down the notification bar of an iPhone and then an android device then you'll see what I'm talking about.
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If that's a big deal breaker tho. Then just stick with iOS ?
Their is multiple things iOS & Android have superior to each other.
To me it's really not a big deal. Yet hardly noticeable!
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I catch the drift, but still its something I can't notice during normal operation. If its that big of an issue I would stay with iOS then. Why not just use your phone instead of trying to do every operation as fast as humanly possible?

myturbo1 said:
If that's a big deal breaker tho. Then just stick with iOS ?
Their is multiple things iOS & Android have superior to each other.
To me it's really not a big deal. Yet hardly noticeable!
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I've got a Galaxy Note and have never had an iOS device, but whenever I try one that is the one thing that I envy. The whole experience just becomes more connected. The nexus 4 might be closer in terms of the iPhones screen latency, but the Galaxy Note is a mile away.

shure2 said:
I think it's just hard to show on video at a normal frame rate. When I drag the notifications bat down on my galaxy note there is considerable touchscreen lag compared to if I was using an iPhone, the screen is always trying to play catch up and doesn't do a great job of it.
It was filmed using an s3 which i thought would be comparable to the N4. If this is solved on the nexus then great!
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I know what you are talking about, although I would put it under general responsiveness, and on every other android device I've owned it's been noticeable...it just isn't on the n4.

The N4 is a lot better than the S3 in the video you showed. It's still not as smooth as iOS but it's definitely not noticeable at all unless you're specifically looking for it. Oddly enough, pulling down the notification tray is actually a lot further behind the finger for me than the browser, but I usually just flick from the top to pull it down rather than a full swipe anyway.

The nexus 4 is Noticeable faster & smother than My friends Note 2.
But the nexus is the only android I haven't had issues with . like this process has stopped unexpectedly etc
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Nexus 4 coming tomorrow.

Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!

Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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No, they don't use much space. Some people like to use the PIE instead, I personally turn on expanded desktop on CM10.1 and downloaded a gesture control app. Works pretty good, esp. because I didn't like the PIE

Haha mine is coming in tomorrow too! Along with the wireless charger and cases I bought off of Amazon!
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That makes 3 of us :good: I finally pulled the trigger. I will be receiving it tomorrow. Hope to get the case and SP tomorrow too..

Also most roms have options to change the height of the navbar

Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Alaris said:
Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Theres not really a "best" way.
Why not just use "fastboot flash recovery" to install it? Its probably the most efficient and direct way to go about it.

Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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The size and alignment of on-screen buttons is perfect with respective to screen size. However, you can change their size also after rooting the device.

Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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Alaris said:
Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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The navbar?
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Honestly you can adapt to both options, I used to use it normally and now I am using pie
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T-Mobile lied to me... T_T
They said it would be coming expedited next day but they sent it ground shipping... Won't be here till Monday or Tuesday! Lame.

I prefer the navigation bars over pie. If you use a custom rom with the feature then you can adjust it's size so it appears smaller on the screen.
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Flash a custom ROM and adjust the size of them. I personally think the size of the Navbar on stock is hideous, whenever I compare my phone to my friend's stock N4 I think that mine just looks so much cleaner with less black space at the bottom of the screen. 70% works perfectly for me, not too small but not intrusive either.

Just got mine today! Love it so far!
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The screen buttons are about a quarter of an inch, which imo is fine. Coming from an s3 I prefer on screen buttons over physical buttons any day and will be a deciding factor in buying any future phone.

Yeah on screen a really more responsive in my opinion. Find myself only having to hit them once unlike my s3.
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Thanks guys for all of the info, really excited for my phone to come... Coming from an HTC One S right now and I really like being able to have my recent apps key double as menu on short press and recent apps on long press... Would that be possible with the onscreen buttons?

Sorry for the double post, just wanna say that it arrived last night and I couldn't be any happier on a work day. XD

I don't find them intrusive at all even on the default size, but then again I migrated from an 800x480 phone, lol.
They also auto-hide when playing videos - tapping the screen during the video brings them back again for a few seconds.
Flashing a custom ROM is great for customizing the buttons and what they do. I find that I prefer a menu button over having to hunt for a 3-dot overflow, and I also find a search button useful for quickly bringing up the address bar in the browser so I can type a URL. So thanks to CM10.1 I was easily able to reconfigure the onscreen buttons - I now have Back, Home, Menu, and Search from left to right. The Menu button doubles as a Recent Apps Switcher when longpressed.
What is annoying though is that they are easy to accidentally hit when using apps in portrait mode. I have inadvertently exited Carmageddon many times to my extreme rage :/