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:laugh::victory:Here is the link for the 1st System dump it is for the ATT Note2 I will get the Gsm version hopefully this weekend But this should help:laugh::victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31240992&postcount=34

Anyone else thinking about waiting at least a few good months before getting a Note 2? Maybe skip a generation? I feel like mine still has a lot to give me.

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from The Verge
looks good to me!

I can't wait for it!
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To sum up what I've posted in the other Note II threads:
It's not a worthy upgrade for the following reasons:
-Lower resolution than Note I
-Still Pentile
-16x9 (I prefer 16x10 on Note I, this is subjective I know)
-Mali 400 GPU (last year tech)
-Exynos 4412 (a15 is already out, iphone 5 will have it)
-Same MP Camera as Note I
-Front camera lower resolution than Note I
What I do like:
-Bigger battery
-More Ram
this is an incremental upgrade and I will wait for the Note III.

Actually, the new screen ratio on the note II doesn't look too bad compare to our old Note. From this picture, compare to the Note II it kinda makes our old Note look like the LG Optimus Vu..lol....
I think they are trying to make the Note II look more like a Smartphone rather than a Tablet

inurb said:
To sum up what I've posted in the other Note II threads:
It's not a worthy upgrade for the following reasons:
-Lower resolution than Note I
-Still Pentile
-16x9 (I prefer 16x10 on Note I, this is subjective I know)
-Mali 400 GPU (last year tech)
-Exynos 4412 (a15 is already out, iphone 5 will have it)
-Same MP Camera as Note I
-Front camera lower resolution than Note I
What I do like:
-Bigger battery
-More Ram
this is an incremental upgrade and I will wait for the Note III.
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MP at camera doesnt mean anything, mate, the quality is the factor, will u say s3 and note1 have the same camera? I would say no, s3 has 8MP camera too, but with better quality and zero shutter lag, good enough to clarify the different
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I am not seeing anything I need that justifies getting rid of my note1 - I wish I had a reason - I was ready to give my son my note1 (he was excited to get it and give up the nexus one he got from me a year ago) and have a new toy for myself in the note2, But I actually think the Note1 might be seen in a few months (when the data is in) as the better phone ( or the same w/ more dev access and cheaper used).
I like the res and aspect ratio better on the note1. I was ready to go with a bigger screen but it might not be there - in that I do not care about length in a phone, I care about width ( since a phone is a computer in my eyes for webpages and app browser/interacting), so if I understand reports right, I would actually lose width (for height) if I gave up my Note1 for the Note2. Hmm not sure I would pay hundreds for a downgrade.
I was excited about a great (read: better) camera, but that looks like the same one. The processor is not much better.
I have Jelly Bean / Google Now already ( thank you XDA devs) so nothing there software wise. And Note1 currently gives me better dev apps / roms for awhile to come.
I see no major improvements to the pen tech.
So we are down to a bigger battery ( big whoop - I have software that can conserve) and POSSIBLY fixes to old problems - like brick bug, black screen, so-so audio - but even if there is something, I have some software fixes to those. If I hear very significant improvements to these I might consider it ( amazing new sound) but I doubt it is enough. This looks like a mild yearly upgrade, for those who do not have a Note1, you get a slight updated version. It does not feel like a jumping off issue for those of us who love and want as much NOTE as we can get - I think we already might just have the best NOTE device now. Shoot, no reason to spend money. I guess I just buy another new gaming desktop instead.

Lol. I saw the video preview on TheVerge....and you can see that TouchWiz STILL stutters even with quad-core PLUS Jellybean.
At this point in technology, it's not the hardware anymore, since dual-cores are sufficient. It's all about software execution now.

Honestly i like note 1 ,it looks better and unique ... i wouldn't mind though to get the 3100mAh battery and the led notification and the 2 gb ram..

Galaxy Note vids
Hi All
I was lucky enough to attend the unpacked event this eve, and managed to get a few videos on some of the features of the Galaxy Note II recorded. If you fancy having a look head to my blog www.staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.de/2012/08/galaxy-note-ii-feature-videos.html or search for my youtube channel (Staceyraver).
Other than that all I can say is that its a wonderful device....new Spen really impressed me (along with the new features that came with it) ...1024levels of pressure sensitivity = woah
Anyway hopefully see some of you at IFA?

I like the screen recording function, this can be great if it can be ported to other devices (or at least other Touchwiz devices).

PoisonWolf said:
Lol. I saw the video preview on TheVerge....and you can see that TouchWiz STILL stutters even with quad-core PLUS Jellybean.
At this point in technology, it's not the hardware anymore, since dual-cores are sufficient. It's all about software execution now.
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lol...sounds like you really HATE the Note II.
Do you reckon the Note II will be much better seeing the quality of the Note II in such a short/ rushed introduction. I'm sure they will introduce the Note III in another year as well.
So...WHEN will be a good time to upgrade???
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Staceymobiler said:
Hi All
I was lucky enough to attend the unpacked event this eve, and managed to get a few videos on some of the features of the Galaxy Note II recorded. If you fancy having a look head to my blog www.staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.de/2012/08/galaxy-note-ii-feature-videos.html or search for my youtube channel (Staceyraver).
Other than that all I can say is that its a wonderful device....new Spen really impressed me (along with the new features that came with it) ...1024levels of pressure sensitivity = woah
Anyway hopefully see some of you at IFA?
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Thanks for the Vids...so how is the Note II screen compared to the Note I in terms of the SIZE, BRIGHTNESS and SHARPNESS?

Note 2 screen looks great. Resolution is slightly lower 720 instead of 800 but it still looks great.
Brightness seems good too.
Got to say it. I want one lol
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Thought I would make a list of hardware improvements compared to N7000:
Quad core
2GB RAM
3100 mAh battery
New S-pen
Corning Glass 2
LED indicator
Bluetooth 4
NFC (Was listed as "optional" on the N7000, never understood what that meant)
Potentially superior pixel arrangement as reported by the Verge. Still not much clarity about this
Dual band wifi, Not sure what this does but it's listed on the specs sheet
On the minus side resolution and pixel density are a bit lower but the difference will be barely noticeable: 285ppi versus 267ppi
Overall this seems a solid hardware upgrade and there are some neat software improvements as well.
And there may be more hardware improvements which haven't been listed, perhaps in the camera and DAC for example.

Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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Staceymobiler said:
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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This is just my opinion, but I never understood the interest in unboxing videos. Unboxing videos for cell phones are almost exactly the same.
Sometimes, there is interesting packaging, and sometimes seeling installs is good. (not relevant for phones though).
Although to be honest, watching Note 1's unboxing videos were fun for the first reactions to the phone 'OMG LOOK AT THE SIZE' stuff.
I am a fairly heavy user of My note - I have 250 apps on mine. I definitely feel the Note bogging down sometimes and I am quite looking forward to what the Note II brings me.
As I always advise people for ANY piece of technology - if you are quite happy with what you have now, there's little bang/buck in upgrading.
This is assuming of course, that the price of the Note is reasonable.
Does anyone recall how the Note was released i.e. the gaps between 'announced' - 'priced' ' - 'released'?
- Frank

Well it's a nice device. However 1 year isn't that long for me to do an upgrade.
Custom ROM on my current Note makes my phone a lot better than official Samsung firmware.
Now that I have read a ton of stuff on this new Note 2 on the net I have decided to keep my current Note until S4 or Note 3.
Also ATIV S has caught my attention more than Note 2. That phone is simply beautiful and it sports a dedicated camera button.

Staceymobiler said:
Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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So you managed to get a hands on with the Note 2? What was your overall impression of the build quality, screen etc?

Staceymobiler said:
Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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Lol....do you mean later today or this month? I would be very interested to see a video of a close up side by side comparison with the old note.
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Samsung confirms galaxy S3 mini.

4" WVGA screen, 5MP camera, dual core novathor chipset.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_iii_mini_specs_leak_packs_dualcore_cpu_jelly_bean-news-4926.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_unveil_4inch_galaxy_s_iii_mini_tomorrow_in_germany-news-4924.php
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They are seriously going to associate the "S3" name with this crap?
Can samsung really not make a small phone as good as iphone? Is this the downfall of the galaxy S brand image? No doubt the average person will compare this with the iphone 5 and it wont look good.

Epic fail, we want exynos.
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Wow.... seriously?
That looks more like a repackaged original Galaxy S hardware.

i was surprised not to see 2 gig of ram

Its the Galaxy S Advance with a new design and JB, not impressed at all Sammy
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The worst part of it all is that its called the "S3 mini".
"We'll be launching a 4-inch Galaxy S III on the 11th in Germany, there's a lot of demand for a 4-inch screen device in Europe. Some call it an entry-level device, but we call it 'mini.'"
Some call it iphone and you samsung clearly dont know what you are doing here. It's not like they dont already have 4" entry level phones.
They just want to trick customers into thinking this is a galaxy S3 in a smaller body. Epic fail samsung!!!!!!!

Gambler_3 said:
They just want to trick customers into thinking this is a galaxy S3 in a smaller body. Epic fail samsung!!!!!!!
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I suspect to the average Joe it is, quad core doesn't make it text any quicker or reduce the number of dropped calls and as for the camera you obviously can't squeeze the 8mp in such a small body.
Seems to me Samsung can't win elsewhere they're being lambasted for releasing the i9305 and devaluing the i9300 by relegating it to second fiddle and here for the mini not shoe Horning the S3 hardware into a smaller, more desirable?, chassis with a better screen.
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Facepalm indeed. If these specs are true, the s3 mini would be lousier than the s2 and the galaxy s advanced. I would expect the mini to at least be as good as the s2

ghostofcain said:
I suspect to the average Joe it is, quad core doesn't make it text any quicker or reduce the number of dropped calls and as for the camera you obviously can't squeeze the 8mp in such a small body.
Seems to me Samsung can't win elsewhere they're being lambasted for releasing the i9305 and devaluing the i9300 by relegating it to second fiddle and here for the mini not shoe Horning the S3 hardware into a smaller, more desirable?, chassis with a better screen.
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What are you talking about? The WVGA screen is not going to be anyway near as good. The iphone 5 has an 8MP camera, the 4S had as well and they are both very small phones.
The novathor chipset is not going to provide the smooth performance that people associate with the S3.
Why would a smaller body be more desirable? Many people like the big screen of S3 those who dont shouldnt have bought it. Yes the i9305 is actually a ***** move because it is everything the S3 is and more, a smaller S3 cant be that.
And you know even a galaxy S2 is fine for texting and calling so what is the point of this phone? Galaxy S2 is also pretty reasonably sized.
A 4" screen of 300PPI, a slightly under clocked quad core CPU and 8MP camera is what is needed from an S3 mini to compete with the iphone 5. Seems like apple excels at engineering more than anybody else when it comes to making a high end small device.

Cash grab yes but in this case it is perfectly reasonable because of two factors.
1. They have to make up the 1 billion dollars that Apple robbed them of somehow. Why not try and rob it from isheep that are holding back on the GS3 because of the size, they won't know any better.
2. Nobody knows if the GS4 and Note 2 will replicate the success of their predecessors, so they need to cash grab when they can. For example, I had the GS2 and GS3 but I won't be purchasing the GS4(unless I cave in) because I might be moving to Windows Phone just for a change of pace. The GS3 is the first phone in YEARS to make Apple release their iphone earlier than they wanted, it might not happen ever again. So instead of letting Apple gouge the consumers, I am perfectly okay with Samsung gouging for 2012. At least it is not Apple. Although the ipad mini might be a gouger.

Samsung made 7 billion dollars in the last quarter. They don't need to pull off something this stupid that can be damaging in the long term.
I am still hoping the device will either not be called S3 mini or will not have those sort of specs as leaked by the German site.
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This wont hurt them. Nobody who bought the tab 2 7 or tab 2 10.1 knows that the tablet they bought licks ass even compared to the old 10.1. This one actually has a relatively new SOC at least. It should run decent with the lower res.
http://www.stericsson.com/products/u8500-novathor.jsp
Sony chipsets are fine. Although that article is sketchy because there is no U8420, U8500 is the lowest. That L9540 sounds like a beast though, it uses a power vr while the rest use the mali 400.

Gambler_3 said:
What are you talking about?.
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Sarcasm
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Gambler_3 said:
And you know even a galaxy S2 is fine for texting and calling so what is the point of this phone?
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To make money
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Gambler_3 said:
Why would a smaller body be more desirable? Many people like the big screen of S3 those who dont shouldnt have bought it. Yes the i9305 is actually a ***** move because it is everything the S3 is and more, a smaller S3 cant be that.
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For some people the S3 is too big and imho this isn't aimed at S3 buyers anyhow, they're using the S3 as a halo device to attract people in, people who might buy into SJs belief that the iphone is the perfect size. And hard as it may be for you to believe, for some, the S3 in a smaller body with a better screen would be ideal.
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Same reaction happened when the A1 Merc or Porsche Boxster was released. Purists where upset!
It's just a budget model, don't like it don't buy it. But it's about time they had one.
Wonder what Apple thinks of Sammy using there word mini? Bet jurors think it's an iPod mini clone. White, rectangle, smooth corners, uses the mini name
Swyped on I9300 - XXDLIB - Siyah kernel - JKay & Thunderbolt tweaks.

They're just abusing the name of S3 here, there's no point in this device. It was expected to be a direct competitor to the iPhone, but it isn't. There's no reason for anyone to buy this. Hardware is no good, price is high, it doesn't really compete with anything.

ghostofcain said:
And hard as it may be for you to believe, for some, the S3 in a smaller body with a better screen would be ideal.
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No it's not hard at all I myself was waiting for the S3 mini.
I personally find the S3 to be too big and guess what? I didnt buy it I am waiting for someone to make a smaller device as good as S3. However if I were to give in and buy the current S3 and then later a smaller version comes then I wont have any right to be pissed off. That would like ipad users getting pissed at the ipad mini.

So it really is official then.

Less pixels to push plus JB 4.1 should allow it to run pretty close to the GS3 with ICS. It will run fine, if you can live with the low resolution. lol

This post just made me look at my current galaxy s 3 and feel instantly sick.
A lte version released after the '' flagship'' device was released,
Now they release this "mini s3" I mean come on..
Build the mini with i9305 specs, ram and lte included but don't offend my eyes and call it an s3 mini...
Samsung seem desperate.. IMO
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Galaxy Note 10.1 Successor?

I thought it would be good to have a thread regarding a possible successor of the current Galaxy Note 10.1 and to post any infos and rumors here. Today I've read some leaked infos about an iPad mini rival, the Galaxy Note 8.0, which is going to be unveiled the end of February at the MWC in Barcelona.
So what do you think when and what we can expect from the real successor of the Note 10.1?
If the Galaxy S4 is going to have a eight-core CPU and FullHD resolution, I think it's also save to assume that the next model of the Note tablet will include these specs.
Any infos/rumors/thoughts?

I have read a few reports which suggest the S4 will have a 5 inch screen and the Note 3 is slated at 6.3 inches. IF this is confirmed then releasing an 8 inch Note would make no sense as Sammy would be taking sales away from its flagship devices.
I think the successor to the Note 10.1 IS the Note 10.1. LTE devices inbound. Other than screen res (which is pretty irrelevant) the 10.1 is still up there in specs.

I dont think the LTE Note is anything more than a minor update. There has to be a next generation at some point, and I think it will also be based around the S4 cpu/gpu with a 1080p screen.

stevessvt said:
I dont think the LTE Note is anything more than a minor update. There has to be a next generation at some point, and I think it will also be based around the S4 cpu/gpu with a 1080p screen.
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I am curious what the name of the next gen Note 10.1 will be. With other sammy products, S3, S4....,Note 2, Note 3....are the names and make sense.
So, where do you go with the Note 10.1 name? The Note 2 10.1?

*Inhale*
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 Part Deux.

Note 2 10.1, just like they did with the galaxy tab 2 10.1

There's a 8" Note coming; it's supposed to be announced at MWC.
SamMobile received new information about Samsung’s new upcoming Note device the GT-N5100. At the first place the Samsung GT-N5100 will come in 2 versions GT-N5100 3G / Wi-Fi version and the GT-N5110 Wi-Fi only version. The name of GT-N5100 will be the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0. Samsung’s new upcoming Galaxy Note 8.0 will use a 8.0” 1280×800 TFT (Super Clear LCD) display, 5 megapixel back camera, 1.3 megapixel front camera, 2 GB RAM, 16/32 internal + Micro SD slot. The battery of the Galaxy Note 8.0 will be a 4600 Mah one. The Galaxy Note 8.0 will also have many ways of connectivity like Bluetooth version 4.0, USB 2.0 and Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n and A-GPS. The dimensions of the tablet will be 211.3×136.3×7.95 mm and the weight is around the 330g. Samsung’s new Note device will run on Android 4.2 called Jelly Bean.
Samsung want to introduce this new tablet at MWC 2013 in Barcelona we of SamMobile will be there!
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/17...s-specifications-of-the-gt-n5100-galaxy-note/​
As for their plans for future 10+" Android tablets that's a good question. With the fairly high spec level of the N10 at $399 that puts pricing pressure on any successor to the G-Tab 2. Samsung selling a "Samsung-ized" version of the N10 at the same price is below their typical margin. I guess they could come out with a G-Tab 3 that's higher spec than today but priced lower and spec'd lower than the N10. They could also give up that end of the market and just focus on Note tablets. The Note 10.1 has been their most successful Android tablet based on Q3 sales of 1MM a month. If that pace continues it will be a big hit for them. So I'd expect a Note 10.1 II with better specs and similar pricing about six to nine months (their typical product cycle) after the original 10.1's launch date which was August.
The SGS4/N3 rumors aren't even remotely credible. The 6.3" display rumor was one line buried in a ten paragraph story about Samsung' s (non-mobile) LCD business. The specs for the SGS4 that have been floating around have it equipped with an S Pen which doesn't make a lot of sense considering how much more an inductive display would cost and the money Samsung's spent developing the "Note" brand. Putting a 1080P inductive display on a high-volume product like the SGS4 would eat in to their margins and I can't see them wanting to do that when they charge a premium for the Note-series primarily because of S Pen and its features.

I don't really believe that we will see any "Galaxy Tab" models in the future. Some people even confuse the "Tab 10.1" with the "Note 10.1". Also the S-Pen functionality of the Galaxy Note tablets is more or less the killer feature compared to other Android tablets and to Apples iPad. I guess the name of the next model could be something like "Note 10.2" or maybe even "Note 11".

We can look for cues in related devices... A combination of Nexus 10 and ATIV Smart PC Pro! (The x86 version is called ATIV Smart PC Pro http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsu...iew_usability-touch-stylus-specs-price_Page-2)
Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
The PLS screen of the Nexus 10 but limit the resolution to 1080p (because Wacom displays might a resolution limit?)
Keep the same form factor with the front-facing landscape speakers and integrate the speakers more like the Nexus 10.

I'd really love an affordable 13"+ Note-like tablet..

tehriddler said:
Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
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It didn't sell when Asus did it which is why no one replicated it on Android. In Q3 Asus sold 250K 10" "transformers" a month while Samsung sold 1MM Notes a month. Asus' next 10" (low-end) tablet won't have external keyboard support so even they are moving away from it. With W8 out now there's less reason to try and make Android compete as productivity devices. With or without keyboards doing true productivity work like in MS Office is painful on Android. The Note Android line of tablets was smart on Samsung's part because rather than try to replicate a tried-and-failed model (Asus) they went a different direction focusing on other types of creation.

The NEW Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
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Why a Successor? What do you want?
Captcarl

I see a note 10.1 successor coming around the second half of the year. Specs wise it'll be octa core exynos 5, hopefully somewhere around 1600x900 res or even 1080p as I find 2560x1600 to be overkill for 10" screen and you really can't appreciate it at that size. Possibly stick with 2gb ram and might then have an added 64gb option also. Of course it'll have wacom screen as well c:
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I think ill be the last person on this note 10.1 forum, ill be sticking with the note 10 untill it cant browse the net and take notes and watch youtube anymore. Not about the cash, ill just stick to updating my mobile every year like a idiot
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mafia187 said:
I think ill be the last person on this note 10.1 forum, ill be sticking with the note 10 untill it cant browse the net and take notes and watch youtube anymore. Not about the cash, ill just stick to updating my mobile every year like a idiot
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Your not alone
Why should we talk about successor when not bored with original. I feel I am yet to explore its true potential.
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tehriddler said:
We can look for cues in related devices... A combination of Nexus 10 and ATIV Smart PC Pro! (The x86 version is called ATIV Smart PC Pro http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsu...iew_usability-touch-stylus-specs-price_Page-2)
Bring in the ATIV's docking ASUS Transformer-style keyboard
The PLS screen of the Nexus 10 but limit the resolution to 1080p (because Wacom displays might a resolution limit?)
Keep the same form factor with the front-facing landscape speakers and integrate the speakers more like the Nexus 10.
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Samsung ativ Smart pc pro is about 3 times the price of note 10.1, over a kilo gram of weight and 12 mm of thickness, it is more of a laptop than of a tablet it even have cooling vents at its back
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I think the Note could use a keyboard option like the Transformer. Honestly the only reasons I chose the Note over the Transformer is because of the IR blaster and S-pen.
Hell, I don't even really use the Note that much anymore since I got an ultrabook. Keyboard is king.

The annual glut of trade shows fosters speculatiom about new products. It appears that the rumors about an 8-inch GN may be true. Engadget has an article and picture of a product box. I don't begrudge Samsung turning out new products to stay competitive. It will be interesting to see if LTE versions of this smaller tablet get rolled out earlier. Since, in theory, it should be more portable since it's smaller, I wonder if Samsung will include NFC.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/21/samsung-galaxy-note-8-at-mwc/

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Tablets-Tab-3,20663.html

[OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new threads

Hi guys,
What you guys thinking, are you gonna quickly buy Xperia Z or planning to wait for the official announcement of Samsung Galaxy S4 or other phones!!
CONCLUSION
Buy Xperia Z - if you believe in Style with sufficient power.
Buy Galaxy S4 - if you want power house with Galaxy Signature design
Buy HTC One - if you want better sound, better display + Style << Xperia Z
XPERIA Z - My Opinion:
As m coming from Galaxy Note 2, i will compare these two and here are what I think the Pros & Cons of Xperia Z:
Pros:
-Beautiful Design
-Waterproof
-Good Camera (Rear only)
-Good Screen (View Straight)
Cons:
-Not the best screen (viewing angles)
-Speaker position is horrible
-Poor Battery Life (compared to Note2)
-Front Camera not so good
-Overheating Issues (can tolerate as its waterproof)
-Cannot use Default Launcher with Xperia Widgets: Lags like anything
WHAT I AM MISSING COMING FROM NOTE 2:
-MultiWindow
-Large Screen
-Customizable Notification Bar
-S-Pen
For Below Comparison - credit goes to Bjray
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It is only a couple of months so I would wait. Of course two months could seem like an awfully long time so easier said than done. lol

S4. I want to be able to install an extended battery.

Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
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S4. I want to be able to install an extended battery.
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Agreed. Or swap batteries. Either way. I was planning on going with Sony this time around, but since no other company will be smart and allow it, my money will unfortunately continue to go to Samsung.

S4 will be significantly better.
Xperia Z only competes currently with S3 and it's an old device.

Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
Wait another 5 months if you can, in that time many new devices will come up specially if there's a new nexus device
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damn bought the nexus 4 1 day before they announced the ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Isnt there another flagship phone from Sony for the H2 of 2013?
Rumors said its Quad core A15 cortex. phone with 3300 mAh battery and 16mp Camera.

Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
My experience with Sammy:
1. Bought s2. The audio quality was real ****ty. Then the cheap plastic feel. The plastic thing surrounding bezel cracked in two places. Sold it.
2. Bought S3. Immediately disappointed because of how 833 MB ram is always occupied by Sammy ****ty bkground processes.
- frequent foreground app kills
- volume button creeking sound.
- fed up with protective back cover getting getting shaded by dusty color. Yes they forced everyone to buy white s3.
- ****ty battery always at 44 - 48 degrees.
- very plasticky n i've managed to never drop it. Living in a fear.
- cross hatch patterns on screen is viewable.
So I know what Sammy does. It wants to always keep their loyal customer buy their phone every year.
Also 8cores in 28nm will be a disaster I think.
But if I buy Xperia Z, I feel I can be happy with this phone for another two years.
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I had all Galaxy S phones and currently still got Galaxy S3. There are a few things which I hope Samsung will improve, if not, I won't buy their phone again. One is cheap materials - for example, a lot of SGS3 from first batch had a silver trim, which cracked even if phone didn't drop. Second, Samsung doesn't provide needed sources and developers (CM) can't build stable rom without bugs. Because of those reasons Im tempted to get Nexus or Xperia Z. Since Nexus 4 is hard to get, Im considering Xperia Z, because it looks very premium, they used high quality materials and also Sony provides sources to developers - opposite to Samsung.

Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
LitoNi said:
Isnt there another flagship phone from Sony for the H2 of 2013?
Rumors said its Quad core A15 cortex. phone with 3300 mAh battery and 16mp Camera.
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I am going to buy Xperia Z and hope there will be no other flagship from Sony atleast till year end !!
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xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi guys,
What you guys thinking, are you gonna quickly buy Xperia Z or planning to wait for the official announcement of Samsung Galaxy S4 !!
I want Sony to release Xperia Z at the earliest (by Feb end atleast) to avoid confusion amongst probable buyers !!
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I guess you should wait for something better than xperia z it still uses s4 pro processor/gpu which is still around the note 2 s so I think wait for s4, optimus g2, or something newer
Also battery would be unremovable
And I guess a bit less than note 2
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I will buy xperia z. It is like when you wait for s3, a better one comes out. We wait. Another better one comes out........ Electronics improve day by day.
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i9100g user said:
I guess you should wait for something better than xperia z it still uses s4 pro processor/gpu which is still around the note 2 s so I think wait for s4, optimus g2, or something newer
Also battery would be unremovable
And I guess a bit less than note 2
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S4 pro is around note 2??? Don't tell me you're talking about benchmarks.
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With this being a developer forum, I can't for my life understand why you're even considering Samsung products, since they're not very developer friendly.
Samsung has failed time after time to deliver what the developers want.
Sony on the other hand is working closely with the developers and don't change very much from the provided source.
If you want to root your device and have custom roms on it in the future don't go for Samsung.
But as others already have mentioned in this thread. Mobile phone developement is going amazingly fast and in another 2 - 3 months, if you can wait, prices will have dropped on current phones and new ones will be availible. On the other hand: If you're waiting for newer and better stuff you can wait forever. Especially in the line of electronics hardware.

I would wait and see if a new display driver improves the quality of the contrast, which I think is really low in comparison what should be possible right now. Other than that I really like the Sony UI (better than Sammys) so if Battery life and Display is ok I'm buying one, also because S3 (and hopefully not s4) is a cheap plastic gadget. Also the development section might be better for the Z. Maybe the new HTC M7 is the phone we should wait for, because they really need a strike.
Greetz...

pongnamu said:
I will buy xperia z. It is like when you wait for s3, a better one comes out. We wait. Another better one comes out........ Electronics improve day by day.
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Right, I played the waiting game too much already and I know it's not worth it to wait forever ...
C-Drum said:
With this being a developer forum, I can't for my life understand why you're even considering Samsung products, since they're not very developer friendly.
Samsung has failed time after time to deliver what the developers want.
Sony on the other hand is working closely with the developers and don't change very much from the provided source.
If you want to root your device and have custom roms on it in the future don't go for Samsung.
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+1 I doubt they will release kernel sources for that octacore cpu. Sony is much more "XDA friendly"
MadMike10 said:
I would wait and see if a new display driver improves the quality of the contrast, which I think is really low in comparison what should be possible right now. Other than that I really like the Sony UI (better than Sammys) so if Battery life and Display is ok I'm buying one, also because S3 (and hopefully not s4) is a cheap plastic gadget. Also the development section might be better for the Z. Maybe the new HTC M7 is the phone we should wait for, because they really need a strike.
Greetz...
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You mean something like This ?

Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
Sony Xperia over Samsung any day developers welcome Sony listen to there customer's even made a flash tool for us to use
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Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?
Sh4Dy said:
S4 pro is around note 2??? Don't tell me you're talking about benchmarks.
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Yes s4 pro is a bit better than exynos 4412 but the difference wont be like upcoming A15 quads and s4 primes
And we have already seen a s4 pro 1080p phone quite a time ago.
And those upcoming phones might just 2or3 months away
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I have never bought a device at the beginning of the year and never will. Happy to wait till april/may to see whats on the horizon, including the S4.

Your call on note3

Design - 5.7inch(5.68 to be specific)
leather back with stiched design ,while samsung has been able to keep the width same as NoteII but its more lighter,slimmer and faster.
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Camera - It has 13 megapixel camera supporting 1080p at 60fps (4k recording supported)
1.9 front camera
A better led flash with smart stabilizer for low light photo capture.
Ram - 3gb confirmed
Cpu - 2 variants
2.3 Quad core LTE version
1.9 OCta core 3g version
Audio - 24bit 192 Khz support
Battery - 3200 mAh battery
As per samsung 40% more battery compared to NoteII (Around 4Hrs more)
S Pen - Samsung has confirmed that the s pen features has a lot more to do this time with Dart feature where you get the option for
Air Command
SCrap Book
S finder
S note- new interface- with free evernote premium service for 1 year
Pen video
Multiwindows - new features have been implemeneted as this seem to the best part of the note3, where we can open two windows of the same app at the same time in multwindows and share simultaneously.
All said and written
Yes ! Samsung has confirmed update for NoteII,S3 and S4 to 4.3 coming this October so we get all the features implemented in our beloved NoteII.
For me I am happy with my NoteII , whats your call

shhbz said:
Design - 5.7inch(5.68 to be specific)
leather back with stiched design ,while samsung has been able to keep the width same as NoteII but its more lighter,slimmer and faster.
Camera - It has 13 megapixel camera supporting 1080p at 60fps (4k recording supported)
1.9 front camera
A better led flash with smart stabilizer for low light photo capture.
Ram - 3gb confirmed
Cpu - 2 variants
2.3 Quad core LTE version
1.9 OCta core 3g version
Audio - 24bit 192 Khz support
Battery - 3200 mAh battery
As per samsung 40% more battery compared to NoteII (Around 4Hrs more)
S Pen - Samsung has confirmed that the s pen features has a lot more to do this time with Dart feature where you get the option for
Air Command
SCrap Book
S finder
S note- new interface- with free evernote premium service for 1 year
Pen video
Multiwindows - new features have been implemeneted as this seem to the best part of the note3, where we can open two windows of the same app at the same time in multwindows and share simultaneously.
All said and written
Yes ! Samsung has confirmed update for NoteII,S3 and S4 to 4.3 coming this October so we get all the features implemented in our beloved NoteII.
For me I am happy with my NoteII , whats your call
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I just want a battery cover like that.

Well. .I will be happy enough as long as I get most of the note 3 s pen and multi Window features and galaxy gear support for my note 2
I have already spent a lot of money on gadgets this year. ..bought 2 nexus 4 as gifts to wife and brother, got a note 8 n5100 and nexus 7 2013 already. ..lol
Save some money for Google glass late this year
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pakure said:
Well. .I will be happy enough as long as I get most of the note 3 s pen and multi Window features and galaxy gear support for my note 2
I have already spent a lot of money on gadgets this year. ..bought 2 nexus 4 as gifts to wife and brother, got a note 8 n5100 and nexus 7 2013 already. ..lol
Save some money for Google glass late this year
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well in my case I did not found the galaxy gear to be great innovation rather samsung should provide the gadget free to all note III buyers

I call bullsh*t on battery life.
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Though call for me , probably I want be there in queue on the first day this time around.

ubigred said:
I call bullsh*t on battery life.
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+1

IMO the design is borderline kitsch.
The 24bit/92 Khz is totally irrelevant, since no one can hear the difference, 3200 mhA is below expectations (4 hours more is, more likely than not, BS), 3 GB RAM is standard nowadays in top of the line phones, 13 MP camera unneeded and probably detrimental to low light image quality and 4k video recording irrelevant to 99% of users since 4k TVs and monitors still cost an arm and a leg.
Oh, and moving from 5.5" to 5.7" doesn't make a difference in real life use.
As for software, thank you for bringing it to the Note II also, which I intend to keep until the note IV is released.

shhbz said:
Yes ! Samsung has confirmed update for NoteII,S3 and S4 to 4.3 coming this October so we get all the features implemented in our beloved Note II
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You said that, not Samsung. The only thing Samsung said is that the three devices you mentioned will receive an update in October that will let them support the Galaxy Gear. What's in the update is pure speculation at this point. I'd also highly doubt that Exynos Quad and 2GB of RAM will be able to run all the new multitasking features shown on the S-800/Octa 3GB N3 and Note 10.1 2014. I'm also concerned about S Pen compatibility between the "old" S Pen and the "new" S Pen they were talking about at the launch. I also wonder if the new S Note app will be backwardly compatible.
Just more to speculate about and a reason for people to open another dozen new “update” threads.

Honami here I come.

Alexei Volkoff said:
3 GB RAM is standard nowadays in top of the line phones
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COMPLETELY WRONG. Note III is the first to implement a 3 GB RAM.

BarryH_GEG;45296707You said that said:
Well definately its speculation but atleast we get the 4.3 and as far as your feelings are voncetned about the note2 not being able to use the multiwindows feature shown, there was nothing new just that u can launch the same app in two windows so it comes to same as launching two diftrent app just they implemented some add feautures .
And if u are so bored of threads being updated stop your speculation too that it wont support as we are keeping are hopes positive and you are on the negative end
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shhbz said:
Battery - 3200 mAh battery
As per samsung 40% more battery compared to NoteII (Around 4Hrs more)
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I think they said it will have 4 more hours of video playback not 40% better battery.
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For me note 3 seems to be a well worthy upgrade.
Larger screen while thinner and lighter and maintaining same size.
Better camera.
Better material used (the back cover does not have the glare and fingerprint problems as the glossy plastic used in all previous phones and according to most reviews it feels better)
A little bit bigger battery
Much better screen (higher resolution, looks like the gs4 screen which received very good praise)
It will have an IR blaster? (not sure about this point, but I assume it does since gas4 has it)
Better software (that launching application in a floating box looks awesome, and they can be minimized)
It has USB 3.0? Isn't that like 10x faster transfer rate?
3gb ram and better processor (not sure if that will make a difference though in practical use)
The standard space is 32GB now, that means coupled with 64gb sd card, you will have a total of 96GB, which i enough for any person I imagine.
S-pen seems to be improved, although to be fair I was never a big s-pen user.
Only thing is missing is front speakers like the htc one, then it might have been the perfect phone.

MohJee said:
I think they said it will have 4 more hours of video playback not 40% better battery
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Well I can vow on that they said 40% better battery and yes that 4 more hours of video playbackg
@all the thread to get feedback of what you people think about note 3 after it unviels so we can share whats the pro and negative of the device note3 or rather ppl will expect more from samsung and choose another from over note3

Alexei Volkoff said:
IMO the design is borderline kitsch.
The 24bit/92 Khz is totally irrelevant, since no one can hear the difference, 3200 mhA is below expectations (4 hours more is, more likely than not, BS), 3 GB RAM is standard nowadays in top of the line phones, 13 MP camera unneeded and probably detrimental to low light image quality and 4k video recording irrelevant to 99% of users since 4k TVs and monitors still cost an arm and a leg.
Oh, and moving from 5.5" to 5.7" doesn't make a difference in real life use.
As for software, thank you for bringing it to the Note II also, which I intend to keep until the note IV is released.
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Don't generalize, many people actually can hear the difference in audio, 3gb ATM is not a standard as many of the rumored or just announced smartphone are 2gb, the 13mpx camera is a big improvement as seen in the sgs4(one of the best android camera in a phone), and 4k recording gives you a "lossless" zoom quality plus probably 4k will become a standard in some years and early support is nice, plus it have the microusb 3.0 and best display and HW announced.
I think it's a great device, probably my next one.
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