[Q] Should I Buy N4 ( Experts Needed Please ) - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Should I Buy N4 ( Experts Needed Please ) - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Xda Members
How are you ?
I have some thoughts in my mind lately, I bought last year the GNX. I really Loved it, but there was one problem ( Signal drop ), each time i call someone the signal drops. they said its Software problem but it was never solved (with me), even with different ROMS.
However, i broke it by mistake.
so i waited for the N4 , waited for Nov 13 and as all of you know, OUT OF STOCK! till now
am really nexus google fan ( I love how nexus device are built ) especially that all the buttons are touch in the screen ( i dont like the Galaxy series )
For those who have the Device or really an expert in ANDROID market :
1- Now its Mid January and no news about stocking, we don't know when this device will be available. Do you think there will be new devices in the Market soon ( HTC ... etc ) maybe ?
2- If there are some new devices , do you think buying N4 will be useless at that time?
( If there are any new Devices may come to the market soon , any recommendations ?)
About the Problems People complaining about :
I heard some complaining about these things ( For those who own the device ) i need really the truth.
1- Some Buttons ( Volume - Power ) are moving, maybe not strongly held in place.
2- Back glass near the Speakers may get Damaged because of sound ? or glass may break when you put it the pocket or scratches ( I read a thread long ago )
3- Signal Drops after using WiFi ( 3g does not work after WiFi ) you need to restart network ( what about normal Radio signal does it drop like GNX ) ?
.....
So i want some thoughts from people with knowledge, would you recommend me this device after all this delay in Stock while more device are approaching with new tech ?
Thanks and Sorry for Long talk

The S4 pro should remain top dog at least for another 4-5 months. Unless you're willing to wait roughly half a year for the exynos 5, I think now is a decent time to buy the nexus 4 provided you can get your hands on one by February. But there has been no concrete information provided by Google about when it might be back in stock.
As far as problems go, the glass back is fairly fragile and scratch-prone. I really recommend that you use a case. There is slight coil whine from the ear piece if you really pay attention to it. The stock kernel runs pretty hot and battery life without the 3g wakelock fix is poor. With a custom kernel and undervolting, heat and battery life are very acceptable. I personally have not had any problems with data or signal drops.
While build quality is so-so as far as internals go, all performance-related issues for the n4 can be remedied with software; the price for the core technology you're getting is unbeatable regardless. All-in-all, I would recommend the n4 provided you can get one in a reasonable time-frame.

Roberrt110 said:
I got sometimes a signal drop but it's in the same places I had it with my evo 3d so I think it's not phone's issue. Buttons are made with quality of Samsung - they won't fall out but you may hear this ugly sound when it gets pressed. And the back glass... No idea yet.
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Thanks Roberrt ! So i can assume Radio signal is way better than the previous Nexus
consolidate42 said:
The S4 pro should remain top dog at least for another 4-5 months. Unless you're willing to wait roughly half a year for the exynos 5, I think now is a decent time to buy the nexus 4 provided you can get your hands on one by February. But there has been no concrete information provided by Google about when it might be back in stock.
As far as problems go, the glass back is fairly fragile and scratch-prone. I really recommend that you use a case. There is slight coil whine from the ear piece if you really pay attention to it. The stock kernel runs pretty hot and battery life without the 3g wakelock fix is poor. With a custom kernel and undervolting, heat and battery life are very acceptable. I personally have not had any problems with data or signal drops.
While build quality is so-so as far as internals go, all performance-related issues for the n4 can be remedied with software; the price for the core technology you're getting is unbeatable regardless. All-in-all, I would recommend the n4 provided you can get one in a reasonable time-frame.
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Nice reply Consolidate ^_^
So
1- Signal is better than previous
2- Some scratches may occur ;( i hate using cases i love the normal phone way
3- Some sounds may be heard while clicking the buttons
4- heat problems
5- Battery problem was in the previous nexus too , Low battery life !
I hope they solve the heat with some ROMS or they update the stock ROM
and if they stocked it in this month or februery i should buy it
I hope all the delays in the stock because LG is trying to solve these issues
Thanks again guyz for reply

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Please....i need ur smart and honest opinion

Im using xperia arc as of now but im planning to buy sgs2 just for future proofing of a smartphone device..but im reading a lot of negative comments as to overheating aand yellowish tint on the screen and pinkish discoloration in the cam..or all u sgs2 users, can u comment with full honesty on ur device? Iys really my first choice..htc sensation will be my 2nd choice.. Will that overheating be fixed with a firmware upgrade? How bout the cam, battery and discoloration problem?
please please i need a smart and honest opinion..

► Well, I don't have any Overheating issues. I don't think there is any overheating issue if I am not wrong. Yes, it could be possible that some devices are damaged in manufacturing, but that's very few. Also keep in mind that the device will be heated if you play game for prolonged hours, if you play games while charging, if you put a bad/fully back covered case while charging/playing, but that doesn't mean Overheat. Always check Temperature of the battery before quoting it as 'Overheat', without a figure that term is meaningless.
► Pink spot in photos were a firmware related problem, which is gone away with new firmware releases. You could also try to update the Camera firmware separately.
► For Yellowish tint in display see this thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
Besides, no device is perefect, each and every has their own problem, you just have to find a near perfect one, which I believe GSII is. You can go for Sensation too, then you'd have to visit XDA for much more time, as it will have more problem than GSII
Regards.

The only issues I have had is a broken USB port which I got a swapped out phone for, so no problem there.
The battery life is great as far as I am concerned even when moderately hammering the phone...4-6 hours of screen on time per charge depending upon what you are doing with it. It's only bad if you use badly coded apps installed I think.
Hardware issues such as a dodgy screen can easily be resolved by taking the phone back for a swap.
Software issues will all get sorted out with firmware updates I believe. Not that I really think there is much wrong.
People complaining on forums is a bad method of judging a phone, after all millions of people have the phone and there are relatively few real complaints on here.
I say go for it, you won't regret it, have had many phones by lots of different manufacturers and this is genuinely the first one I cannot stop playing with. It's a real life changer to be honest.

1. No yellow tint here, at least me and my friends can't see it on my phone even if it exists and general opinion is that it exists on every SII to a lesser or greater extent.
2. Pink spot on camera here, no matter which official firmware i updated with Kies, no matter what camera firmware i installed. It only pops up in certain conditions, that's why people say they don't have it or say it's fixed.
3. Overheating - depends on what one considers to be overheating. My battery temeprature never got past 48 % degrees, but this temperature feels hot for your fingers when touching the screen or back cover.

thanks for both of u guys...
implanning to buy maybe this last week of august..
in my xperia arc experience, i didnt encounter any overheating..in fact even when im playing need for speed or heavy gunnerm or gt racing which are my 3 fave games my phone dont event get warm...in charging, yes, but only for the first 30 mins i guess..
i feel it gets warm only when im using 3G when browsing..
i hope those problems as just an isolated issues...btw, im working ins saudi arabia as of now..im not sure about the latest firmware available here. i heard about gingerbread 2.3.4 already released for SGS2..is it already available in ur country or u still have to flash it yourself?

If your not in a rush maybe you could wait till the holidays, its rumored that a new andriod reference device ( the Nexus S ) will be out by that time, also a new Galaxy S line device for sure.
For the issues you posted:
1.) Overheating - Some phones seem to run hotter than others, ive been through a couple of replacements and this one I have runs hotter when gaming/surfing and also runs noticeably hotter when charging.
2.) Yellow tinting on the left side - Luck of the draw, if your buying the phone for its screen it might tick you off depending on how severe the issue is that you got on the phone, Using a 2.3.4 kernel alleviates this issue but the left side is a tad bit dimmer and is noticeable proportional to the yellow tint. Some users are not affected by this because they plainly dont see it (which is great) others have accepted this as a "normal" defect hence why samsung never rectified this issue. There are also legit QC issues on the screen refer to this
3.) Pink spot on camera - we dont really know if all phones are affected by Im guessing NOT due to the very low participation on the thread in XDA and also a very low or non existent internet media coverage about this, a very minor issue TBH.
4.) Battery Life - Its great, dont expect it to out last any netbook or laptop though.. I believe only the IP4 can outlast the battery on the S2 especially with wifi 24/7 with tons of IM and email apps.

i see no problems with mine .
love it in fact .
+plus+
great dev side too here on xda

It's full of problems!

EarlZ said:
If your not in a rush maybe you could wait till the holidays, its rumored that a new andriod reference device ( the Nexus S ) will be out by that time, also a new Galaxy S line device for sure.
For the issues you posted:
1.) Overheating - Some phones seem to run hotter than others, ive been through a couple of replacements and this one I have runs hotter when gaming/surfing and also runs noticeably hotter when charging.
2.) Yellow tinting on the left side - Luck of the draw, if your buying the phone for its screen it might tick you off depending on how severe the issue is that you got on the phone, Using a 2.3.4 kernel alleviates this issue but the left side is a tad bit dimmer and is noticeable proportional to the yellow tint. Some users are not affected by this because they plainly dont see it (which is great) others have accepted this as a "normal" defect hence why samsung never rectified this issue. There are also legit QC issues on the screen refer to this
3.) Pink spot on camera - we dont really know if all phones are affected by Im guessing NOT due to the very low participation on the thread in XDA and also a very low or non existent internet media coverage about this, a very minor issue TBH.
4.) Battery Life - Its great, dont expect it to out last any netbook or laptop though.. I believe only the IP4 can outlast the battery on the S2 especially with wifi 24/7 with tons of IM and email apps.
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Honestly I have a lot of friends with iphones and the general consensus is that they get like 14 hours... Now maybe that is because they haven't updated or w.e but I just flashed the latest nightly and my battery life is really good so far... I expect to get 18 hours today.
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Battery last about 6 hours. Crap.
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iwang said:
Battery last about 6 hours. Crap.
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Weird, I get at least a day from mine, moderate-heavy use..

Bought from T-Booth, unlocked from Bell to Rogers using an unlock service. Absolutely LOVE the device but the battery life is frustrating. With great power... comes great responsibility in keeping a charger with you. Apparently. lol.

I feel like everyone is being really picky when it comes to those issues, its just like the whole iPhone's antenna gate problem, it wasn't really a big problem because when i had the iPhone, i never dropped a call. I bet you that you wouldn't even notice the issues if you didn't read this forum

666fff said:
Weird, I get at least a day from mine, moderate-heavy use..
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Yeah maybe I am still conditioning the battery. Looks somewhat better today.
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DAMAGE_INC29 said:
Im using xperia arc as of now but im planning to buy sgs2 just for future proofing of a smartphone device..but im reading a lot of negative comments as to overheating aand yellowish tint on the screen and pinkish discoloration in the cam..or all u sgs2 users, can u comment with full honesty on ur device? Iys really my first choice..htc sensation will be my 2nd choice.. Will that overheating be fixed with a firmware upgrade? How bout the cam, battery and discoloration problem?
please please i need a smart and honest opinion..
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I've not had any issues with the items you mentioned. Maybe I'm color blind but I'm not seeing any discoloration.
I have never tried the xperia Arc but between the SGS2 and Sensation, the choice is easy, SGS2. I have both and the Sensation is a real disappointment IMO

Azntopia said:
I feel like everyone is being really picky when it comes to those issues, its just like the whole iPhone's antenna gate problem, it wasn't really a big problem because when i had the iPhone, i never dropped a call. I bet you that you wouldn't even notice the issues if you didn't read this forum
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Lol, but you didn't have AT&T. You don't antenna gate for dropped calls with that network

Buying a new phone for futureproofing is always a bad solution. No matter what, there will ALWAYS be new and better technology in less than a year after (Moore's law applies here too)... when that is said, the SGS2 really is a good candidate for holding on to in the next couple of years. But don't buy a phone, and think it's futureproofed - it's NOT.
If it's shear power, then the SGS2 really is a good choice, forget about the Sensation... it's really not that good!! I will say that the SGS2 is the best phone, i have ever owned... and that is said very honestly!!
If it's shear design... keep your Arc, as it's a very nice phone, and very beautyfull to look at. It also has a good camera, which is slightly better than the 2 other phones, when it comes to taking pictures in the dark. And it has specs, that is okay, and apart from space for apps - it will stand it's grounds for some time yet. And when it can't cut the mustard anymore, the SGS3 will be out...

Tend to agree, you will future proof for about a month or two, with the rate that new android devices arrive the SGS2 will be out of date by Christmas, but that doesn't mean its forgotten, it will be one fast beast for quite some time until the quad cores arrive next year.
The only problem I have is the incredibly slow charging time even on the standard official mains charger.
No pink tint in camera, no or I cant see this screen yellow thing.

Why the need to upgrade from the Arc in the first place? I came from the Nokia 5800, and that thing is just too limited for my use for example. Good thing S2 came out just in time

Azntopia said:
I feel like everyone is being really picky when it comes to those issues, its just like the whole iPhone's antenna gate problem, it wasn't really a big problem because when i had the iPhone, i never dropped a call. I bet you that you wouldn't even notice the issues if you didn't read this forum
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My experience with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days

Hi all,
Im a new member of the forum (duh!) and I was brought here after searching a couple of things in google and it seems to hit this place more often than any other site, I've been using the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days and here are my thoughts:
The design of the over all hardware is just premium, phone feels extremely great on the hand and the weight is just amazing! It does not feel plasticy at all as what some review sites say, for what its worth the feel is extremely premium. Tactile response on the buttons and home key is also great!
The screen is great but I see some flaws/technology limitation here and there or maybe my display is just faulty? Why is the left side slightly a bit darker than the right side of the display, its pretty noticeable even upto 50% brightness.
Samsung has advertized this as a 0.1ms response time screen but I do see some ghosting in some apps and also when dropping the notification tray, a friend of mine who has the original Galaxy S says theres no ghosting on the SuperAMOLED
Black levels are INSANELY MINDBLOWINGLY AMAZING!! I cant stress this enough! Being a fan of high end plasma displays, the SAMOLED+ just blows everything out of the water! I have to admit that if your using the phone just before bed time ( when all the lights are off ) you can definitely tell that the screen is powered on when displaying a black image but its extremely great! The lightning is so faint and perfectly uniform!
Performance ( speed ) is really great, coming from a lower end andriod phone the Galaxy S2's performance is just through the roof! Aside from the innate micro-jitters from andriod everything else is on steriods!
I really like how the Samsung UI is made especially the swipe to SMS/Call, its pretty simple yet very effective! Messaging and contacts are pretty straight forward!
GPS accuracy is spot on, I can easily get 10M locked accuracy on ~9 sats and locking speed is like less than 10 seconds!
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
Wifi strength is just average or maybe its just my weak router at home but on the same spot my laptop can get a very solid signal where the S2 loses it from time to time.
Speaker output is very acceptable, nothing really to write about.
Call quality is "just average" as everyone I've called says that my voice is either pretty low or theres a very slight echo.
Over all the phone is good ( not great ) it kinda meets the expectation, Im a little disappointed on the display since I really believed on all the marketing things they have made for both SuperAMOLED and SuperAMOLED+ , I payed about $680 for this phone and I still have a few days left to either return this and get an exchange or a full refund.
Sorry for the long wall of text and my poor english (not my first language)
Share your thoughts on the device and your opinion on what Ive posted, Thanks!!

- Reserved Space for other things I might add in a couple of days -

My experience last 5 days
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.

caviera said:
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.
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I've never owned the original Galaxy S but I've read some posts about that, with a decent heaphones the difference is day and night, not too much of an issue for me though but I can understand the gravity of this.

Flightless said:
Hi all,
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
Read the battery Faq posts and in particular .
better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Applications safe to remove .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924
Remove Samsung Apps script .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108479
Wifi strength is just average or maybe its just my weak router at home but on the same spot my laptop can get a very solid signal where the S2 loses it from time to time.
Excellent signal on latest KH3 firmware .
jje
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Try one the "praised" Custom-Roms =) I got much more satified since using them, especially battery life improved (still not state-of-the-art, but acceptable).
But I'm also searching for a solution for the poor call-quality. Every second call i have I'm told that people can understand me hardly. Hardware-design failure?

Flightless said:
Hi all,
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
check out
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...hType=searchByshopGroup#/shopGroupId/11033729
bought the biggest one, you will need an extra back cover but it comes with
the battery 28 euros for a 2750 mAh battery which at least for me by now
works perfect is a good price i believe, the batteries seem very stable and they also have the message below stated on the site
This Samsung Galaxy S2 battery (2600 mAh, Black) contains advanced technical components and has been tested according to strict CE safety standards. The Samsung Galaxy S2 battery contains a chip that prevents overcharging and short circuiting. Next to this the Samsung Galaxy S2 battery is made from high quality cells that do not suffer from a so-called 'memory effect'.
i have been on this battery now with wifi or 3g connect at all times for 30 hours
and i have 40 % power left. fairly heavy use every morning, heavy use in the evening work 9am to 6 pm mostly screen off but checking FB Twitter newspaers etc pretty frequently.
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I wont be messing with the ROM yet since im still in the grace period for a return, for the battery I dont think ill spend anything more to make the phone thicker or anything I also understand that the 16hrs is acceptable for the usage that I do.

caviera said:
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.
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Firstly, nice review Flightless.
Secondly, Caviera, could you please show any reference to your statement. I'm curious to know. AFAIK not so many review site truly measure audio output/quality, except GSMArena but they haven't yet review SGS2. Although in their most recent reviews, for example for the SGS+ they put SGS2 statistics in the same page for us to compare, as you can see below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus-review-623p5.php
I am not very techie, but I can say the numbers do not differ much there. Or does it?

Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.

My experience is that this phone is amazing... however the GPS is not so amazing. Nothing past 10m... at least navigation works with all the tweaks I've applied.
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ChongoDroid said:
My experience is that this phone is amazing... however the GPS is not so amazing. Nothing past 10m... at least navigation works with all the tweaks I've applied.
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Have you tried an app for a faster fix, like fasterfix?

holyguyz said:
Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.
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WTF, 1 month to get a new unit ?
thought that would go faster as this is a manufacturers mistake i would assume?
good thing you didnt flash any custom roms or rooted the phone before sending it back then.. unless you did and already have a jig
from first glance the unit worked flawless for me, bought it in the NL, no issues at all except for the battery drain in the original firmware and the 2.3.3 OS
I flashed after a week over to Litening v5 with ninpheta 2.0.5 kernel
mostly U/c to 1000 or 800 mhz with a little bit of under voltage aswell.
but sometimes for show off or heavy games i boost it to 1400 or 1600 MHZ also .
with a little U/V and phone is fast and stable as a Rolls Royce Phantom <)
Phone gets a bit heated when it is under heavy use or when charging,
but at least my personal belief is that the reason for this happening
is simply because there is not a metall etc bezel around this phone
like it would for example be on an iphone, surely all that metal must spread out the heat to even it out??
Phone was also heating up under stock rom with heavy use so or charging so
i believe that it is not really heating up to much
but because of the bezel thing mentioned above it feels a lot hotter.
what do you guys think?

Stwzzz said:
WTF, 1 month to get a new unit ?
thought that would go faster as this is a manufacturers mistake i would assume?
good thing you didnt flash any custom roms or rooted the phone before sending it back then.. unless you did and already have a jig
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Yes, over one month at retailer shop where i bought my SGS2 in UK. I have no ideal why they need more than a month to diagnose the phone (checked online with diagnose status). Btw, problem was found on original unrooted preloaded fw and did root the phone to solve the problem, unfortunately it can't be solved. And it's not jigged. That time was suspect hardware problems then just send it for service without thinking too much. It's still under warranty anyway. As a result they replaced another new unit for me.
Cross-fingers. Hope no more problems on my current SGS2.

I also had to wait for 30days on my 3rd replacement but I was able to use the phone till then, now processing another replacement since it has yet another defect.. waiting time is another 30days for approval.

As for wifi, even with barely any signal, i've always hit the max speed of my bandwidth during the speed test

EarlZ said:
I also had to wait for 30days on my 3rd replacement but I was able to use the phone till then, now processing another replacement since it has yet another defect.. waiting time is another 30days for approval.
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That's really bad. I know. I know.
ph00ny said:
As for wifi, even with barely any signal, i've always hit the max speed of my bandwidth during the speed test
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I also realize that my SGS2 WiFi signal always at very low bar (one bar), where placed beside my laptop (full bar). And distance to WiFi router only about 5 meter away. Is it something wrong with the SGS2 WiFi module or just another software problem again. Don't tell it's hardware problem again.

holyguyz said:
That's really bad. I know. I know.
I also realize that my SGS2 WiFi signal always at very low bar (one bar), where placed beside my laptop (full bar). And distance to WiFi router only about 5 meter away. Is it something wrong with the SGS2 WiFi module or just another software problem again. Don't tell it's hardware problem again.
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Sounds like something is wrong with the actual transmitter, wireless card or what to call it, my wifi on a real ****ty sweex router has good strength and I can even be in the basement of our complex and still have decent strength, I live on the third floor so the basement is pretty far away, in the house everywhere I have full strength,.
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holyguyz said:
Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.
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I think you had the same problem that my brother had with his HTC sensation! He went through 4 phones overheating, and running supper slow, I believe that you got your hands on a batch of bad phones
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Stwzzz said:
Sounds like something is wrong with the actual transmitter, wireless card or what to call it, my wifi on a real ****ty sweex router has good strength and I can even be in the basement of our complex and still have decent strength, I live on the third floor so the basement is pretty far away, in the house everywhere I have full strength,.
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then it could be something to do with WiFi frequency channel. i should tweak around and see how is it.
Poker gypsy said:
I think you had the same problem that my brother had with his HTC sensation! He went through 4 phones overheating, and running supper slow, I believe that you got your hands on a batch of bad phones
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No more problem on my 5th unit. Hope for the best!

[Q] What should I know before I buy a G2?

I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.

Yes, I would reccomend the HTC Vision (G2). S-OFF means security off, or on (S-ON), as the case may be. Development is anything but dead for this device, IMHO. There exist rooting guides regardless of your current Android version and plenty of different ROMs. Although you will have to downgrade from the official 2.3 update, if need be. But again, there are excellent guides here on XDA. That's my 2 cents.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Just as stated above the downgrade guide worked for me I traded a g2x for a g2 plus cash due to developement being almost non existant and as its a downgrade in performance its an upgrade in developement. This phone is great you might wanna look into buying a new spring for whatever usedg2 you buy I ordered mine today and you can pick up a used g2 for as little as 80$ with no battery or back cover on craigslist. But they run for around 100 to 200 in houston I wouldn't spend more than 200 for this phone just cause its a tad old my opinion hope I helped

I own a G2 and a vibrant, but I use my G2 because it is a bit more compact, has keyboard, has better call quality and slightly better battery life. I keep the vibrant as backup (we use it on wifi and call it the mini tablet)
The G2 is more complicated to root than vibrant (needs adb), but I've succesfully rooted mine from 2.2 and my wife's from 2.3.4. The samsung merely required downloading a couple things on my computer, then a one click root. We both currently run MIUI ROM because we like the abundance of themes, options and better than stock battery life.
My wife's phone did succumb to the black screen issue known with G2s, luckily it was still under HTC 1 year warranty. That was how I had to learn to root 2.3.4 once we got the phone back.
The biggest issue I've had with the samsung was missing calls. It was having issues maintaing signal in my house. My G1 had no issue, and my G2 is better than the vibrant. The vibrant is very thin, amazingly thin.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

i downgraded my Desire Z about 2 days ago and its all rooted now, im definatly no expert on the subject but the guides i used worked fine for me as long as you can follow instructions
oh and as a tip from a noobie
* copying items per usual CTRL + C will take you out of shell remember that copying in CMD can be done by pressing the ENTER key.
that was the reason i screwed up first time xD
desire Z is great only the battery life has bugged me so far.

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I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.
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$230 is too much. I see them on craigslist frequently in the $150-180 range. it's still worth it, but why pay %50 more if you don't have to ?
the g1 is a great device. reliability has been great for ours. my son uses a g1 and it might get reboot once every 3 months, constant wifi, and used mostly for youtube and as a camera. the g2 is a better device. much much faster, in every way.
i don't know of a gps issue. both of ours pick up GPS in 3-4 seconds unless we're in a canyon. takes longer then.
all units are rootable. there is a section here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2 that should be exactly what you need to complete root.
i would suggest checking the camera lense with a bright light very carefully. mine has a hairline crack, and it effects some photos depending on orientaion. i bought it USED, as I do everything. exchanged a couple of them for different hardware problems, but most likely related to hard use (women).
i use cyanogenmod 'nightlies' on mine. they're very fast, stable, and feature packed.
also, the reasons we'll be sticking with G2's for the extended future:
excellent camera
dedicated camera button
dedicated volume rocker
sensible headphone jack placement
very good cellular signals
very good wifi signals
very good bluetooth (map transfers in the woods with no data available on cellular)
the hardware keyboard is EXCELLENT < this alone is a deciding factor, it's very very good, and we are hardware people. no touch screen keyboard can compare in our opinion.
very good battery life: EDGE and underclocking agressively means no charging needed on camping trips, and LOTS of pictures
also 720p HD video capable. it's very good quality.
excellent noise cancelling
excellent call quality
loud external speaker
good luck !

If you're buying a used one, test everything you can before you lay down the cash!
Bring along some earphones, plug them in and make sure you can hear audio (tests the audio jack)
If possible, Bring along a microUSB cable and plug the phone into a PC. Make sure the phone charges and is recognized by the PC. Put the phone into USB mode and make sure you see the contents of the phone's SD Card (tests the USB connector)
If an micro SD card isn't included, bring one alone and test it on the phone. Somethimes the connector gets trashed.
Test the physical keyboard, make sure each key registers.
If possible, test the SIM slot too -- plug in a good SIM card and make sure there's no error.
Slide the keyboard open and closed repeatedly. make sure the screen doesn't act strangely (flickering could be a sign of a bad connector cable)
What else?

I don't think "women" are responsible for hardware issues with your phone, ohgood.
And to the OP, there are known GPS issues. Not everyone has them, and there are fixes out there. So, although it is a known issue, it should not be a deal breaker. I just upgraded radios, installed the stock HTC GPS drivers (on an AOSP ROM), and GPS locks in 5 seconds and stays that way for hours while using navigation. Granted all these things were not necessary, but they have improved my cell & GPS signals.

It is truly a great phone, had mine since january and don't regret it one bit
PROS-fast,never lags,now has android 2.3,good screen size & quality,every app I ever dl works great with the G2,great camera and video,battery can be great if u add apps such as an app killer & 2g-4g switch(I can easily go a full day on heavy use switched on 2g then I just switch it to 4g when using internet browing) & an awsome keyboard.
Only CONS in my opinion are- kinda on the heavy side & thick (advantages of having a hardware keyboard) & I feel it lacks a front facing camera
Hope this helps
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Great phone, had mine for about a week. I like the keyboard and once you get used to it you can type pretty fast, overall the device is pretty snappy and works well. The z hinge is okay, there is a bit of shake when the device is closed and youre using the touch screen, and my device has a bit of dust under the screen. I paid 320 AUD for mine brand new, I haven't rooted it and I'm running stock gingerbread with HTC sense
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

A perfect phone.... I donno why but I feel the keys a bit harder... and the missing front camera.

Hi,
I'm a fresh user of this device (bought it new a week ago on contract) and I absolutely love the keyboard. I was a G1 user that switched to iP4 but lasted only 7 months. Physical keys are a must I do agree that front cam would be nice but since it's not a feature I would use on a daily basis then I agreed to the fact. Battery isn't awesome but lasts a day. Great signal strenght, wifi locks and holds nicely, havent had a chance to test GPS.
So far on stock 2.3.4 but dunno for how long
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using xda premium

Beyond worth it phone. To my knowledge, its the fastest single core phone with the best battery life. U heard the guy testimonial on taking it camping. On an AOSP rom, 4g/3g, bluetooth, gps, wifi off, it uses next to no power. I mean its sick. Ive tested it and left it sitting alone for 2days and came back to it saying 99% battery.
Pros:
Its safely overclocked to 1.2GHz because Processor was designed to run at 1GHz
Keyboard (Includes 3 shortcut buttons. +2more if ya use the search button too)
Camera quality
Huge active developing community
Quality materials, I mean its solid built, no denying that.
Runs every app I throw at it with no issues.
Superb wireless quality (Signal (3g/4g/Calls), wifi, gps, bluetooth are just AWESOME)
Rocker is the right size, sensitivity (Mentioned because its perfect for at work and changing songs w/o the need to take it out my pocket ^_^ )
Headphone jack is solid (Had a Moto Cliq that was iffy)
Cons:
No front facing camera (Honestly those who have it, rarely use it cause U can just call the person)
Only 2 Color indicator
Hefty/Weight (To me a benefit cause it dont fall out or drop)
Lil outdated manufactor wise.
I honestly dont feel its outdated tho because any experienced android user will tell ya. Getting the first batch of a new technology has downfalls 1/2 - 1year later. Case in point, all the buyers of the first Dual-Core phones envy those who got the Dual-Core and 3d after less then a year later. My thing is, Ill wait until the 3d been fine tuned a bit and I bet it will be perfected.
2more things. It has a KEYBOARD. The wireless in it is beyond great. I never had a dropped call, problem with gps, wifi or bluetooth. In fact I hook my bluetooth up to my radio and can walk 15 feet away w/o a problem. I enjoyed it when I can go in my trunk, adjust my "thump in the trunk" and change the volume/song wirelessly.

Buying the Nexus 4...?

Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and looking to replace it with the Nexus 4. I have tried the phone several times in shops, read reviews and seen the hundreds of videos on Youtube and have noticed some negative things that might affect my purchase like:
1. Short battery life - even at 2100mAh and with minimal usage it still doesn't quite last for a whole day even on standby.
2. A not-so sharp screen - using this so-called "grey screen" test it was shown to be weaker than the previous-gen Galaxy Nexus
3. Wifi bugs - again when the phone is held in a specific way the wifi signal becomes affected
4. Muffled incoming calls
5. Frequency distortions when a headphone is connected
6. Weak & tiny speakers sound (just like Galaxy Nexus)
7. Very poor speaker grill placement
8. An "average" camera photos
Aside from the hardware issue has the other issues been resolved via software updates? And is Google aware of these issues?
We all know the wonderful and powerful specs (and OS) the Nexus 4 has but these issues seems to be on my head.
Please advice. Thanks.

Just my two cents:
1. Battery life is way better then my old HTC Sensation (like...i needed a spare battery for it if i had a long day at uni whereas my nexus last for a whole day of heavy use)
2. The screen is not AWESOME in stock, but it's pretty darn good. A custom kernel on the other hand makes it much much better then anything you have seen, trust me.
3. Wi-Fi working without issues here as well. I'm sure you're referring to the "Deathgrip" issue which mostsmartphones have...don't worry about it too much. You can always hold it in a different way if you find your wi-fi signal level unacceptable
4. Incoming call quality is top notch...didn't notice any problems. The earpiece is really loud even! I use it at minimum volume!
5. Didn't notice that either.
6. It's not too bad. There are audio mods which improve the volume and sound quality across the board (this applies to 5,6,7)
7. see above
8. The camera is much much better then the one in my old HTC Sensation. And i mean...MUCH BETTER!
So i guess it all depends on which phone you're coming for. Me? I'm extremely happy with my purchase

It doesn't appear that you want to buy the N4. That's fine, you've done your homework and came to a smart decision. But if you did as much research on the Galaxy Nexus you would have found similar complaints about it and would not now own it.
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Solution for those problems:
Downloadnflash paranoid android or cm or just stick with stock.
Then flash Francos kernel, do some UVing and there you go. Use BBS(better battery stats) to find what's causing your drain if you ever do buy a nexus 4.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

this screen have a burn-in issue like galaxy nexus ?

Well, i did my homework when it comes to reviews online from well-known websites (Amazon UK, CNET, GSM arena, etc.) but i haven't decided if the Nexus 4 is NOT for me or not. I am merely expressing my views on what i read and what i read or seen on video reviews are always there, always (almost) consistent and always the same problems.
Sure it might be a factory defect or a very select few but still it causes me to do some thinking.
Why is the "deathgrip" issues still there regardless of what phone you have?
I usually (and most of the times) hold the phone in my left hand. And that basically covers the speaker grill at the back. It's not like ALL THE TIME and not all the time i'm expecting a phone call whilst i'm holding my phone with my left hand. I just think it's a bad place to place the speaker grill.
Has anyone actually tried the "grey screen test" for the screen to check for any inconsistencies or broken pixels or something?
So far all of you say the battery life issue ISN"T an issue at all. I'm just slightly worried that all reviews i read say otherwise. I still think with the specs the N4 has the minimum battery capacity should be 2300mAh or even more. I have an extended-life battery 2300mAh for my Galaxy Nexus. I charge it for 7 hours overnight. Use it to commute to & from work. Whilst at work i put it on Airplane mode and don't use it that much. When i go home i put it on normal mode. By 9pm the battery is down to 30% and it goes downhill from there. And this is whilst the wifi is turned-onat home and doing the basics of tasks like checking my Twitter, Instagram, updating apps and minimal news and stuff. So with that in mind i still think 2100mAh is not enough.
Regarding the camera photos quality...well i'm not into ROM's or MODs etc. I want mine the stock Android. But if anyone has anything in mind like apps to improve/tweak the camera and improve the battery life then i would greatly appreciate it.
Does the Nexus 4 have "HD voice"? And does it have some kind of noise cancellation when hearing from the earpiece or making a phone call so it stays clear even if your in a noisy environment?
I await all your replies. Thanks.

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Well, i did my homework when it comes to reviews online from well-known websites (Amazon UK, CNET, GSM arena, etc.) but i haven't decided if the Nexus 4 is NOT for me or not. I am merely expressing my views on what i read and what i read or seen on video reviews are always there, always (almost) consistent and always the same problems.
And that's perfectly fair enough. I agree that many trusted websites appear to give the N4 below average reviews, but I personally can see absolutely no reason why
Sure it might be a factory defect or a very select few but still it causes me to do some thinking.
Why is the "deathgrip" issues still there regardless of what phone you have?
Well it's not there for me so I can't comment here. Never had it, don't know anyone who's complained about it.
I usually (and most of the times) hold the phone in my left hand. And that basically covers the speaker grill at the back. It's not like ALL THE TIME and not all the time i'm expecting a phone call whilst i'm holding my phone with my left hand. I just think it's a bad place to place the speaker grill.
Agreed. Awful speaker placement, which isn't helped at all by the fact that the back is completely flat.
Has anyone actually tried the "grey screen test" for the screen to check for any inconsistencies or broken pixels or something?
I haven't but I can tell you from simple usage that there's nothing wrong with the screen. A custom kernel definitely helps a lot, but if you leave it as stock you'll still be happy.
So far all of you say the battery life issue ISN"T an issue at all. I'm just slightly worried that all reviews i read say otherwise. I still think with the specs the N4 has the minimum battery capacity should be 2300mAh or even more. I have an extended-life battery 2300mAh for my Galaxy Nexus. I charge it for 7 hours overnight. Use it to commute to & from work. Whilst at work i put it on Airplane mode and don't use it that much. When i go home i put it on normal mode. By 9pm the battery is down to 30% and it goes downhill from there. And this is whilst the wifi is turned-onat home and doing the basics of tasks like checking my Twitter, Instagram, updating apps and minimal news and stuff. So with that in mind i still think 2100mAh is not enough.
This was an issue I was worried about before getting my phone too, but my experience with it so far has been great.
Regarding the camera photos quality...well i'm not into ROM's or MODs etc. I want mine the stock Android. But if anyone has anything in mind like apps to improve/tweak the camera and improve the battery life then i would greatly appreciate it.
Does the Nexus 4 have "HD voice"? And does it have some kind of noise cancellation when hearing from the earpiece or making a phone call so it stays clear even if your in a noisy environment?
I don't think there's any HD voice, but there is a noise cancelling mic on the top. Either that, or my phone has a random hole in it
I await all your replies. Thanks.
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With 4.2.1 stock, it was too aggressive when it came to onlining cores so you'd end up with 4 online cores when reading Facebook lol. Which is cool for project butter, but isn't too battery efficient. Even if you don't root it, 4.2.2 is better when it comes to stuff like that, so battery life is definitely not like it used to be. Most reviews are based on 4.2.1, so...
The only other phone I'd trade this nexus for is lumia 920, but I don't want an unlocked version and T-Mobile doesn't have it. The reason I'd take that is due to me loving Xbox music so much.
Even new phones coming out, yea, they are pretty beefy but don't offer stock android experience. To me, I always found touch wiz laggy and ugly. Sense ui was decent, but too buggy and updates never came. Point is, I personally love stock android, it feels so smooth, even if benchmarks don't reflect it. If you like stock, definitely the phone to go with.
Sound quality is great, noise canceling is good. I used to have gs3 and there were a lot more times when people had issues hearing me when it was windy.
Camera is good, it isn't lumia 920 type camera, but it does take good pictures, flash is pretty good too. I found galaxy nexus camera to be crap, I'm happy with this one.
I dunno what carrier you plan on using, but connectivity is much better for me then galaxy nexus. Not only does it support hspa42, which literally gives me 22mbps vs 10mbs I used to get, but it stays connected to hspa better. But, it still isn't as good as some other phones still because I know that couple of times I'd get stuck on edge when I shouldn't.
I like the way this touchscreen is too, seems more responsive than gnexus was.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

I am not a fan of custom kernels, rooting or CM ROM's and i would prefer the "normal" updates here & there by Google/LG.
If there is an app to somehow (not magically but if it were then the better) make the speakers louder, make the photos more saturated/sharper/more contrast and further improve the battery life (instead of the usual turning off the GPS, bluetooth, brightness, etc.) then i would be happy with.

Speaker volume is great, it's just the quality that you may need to worry about

gino_76ph said:
Hi there!
I currently have the Galaxy Nexus and looking to replace it with the Nexus 4. I have tried the phone several times in shops, read reviews and seen the hundreds of videos on Youtube and have noticed some negative things that might affect my purchase like:
1. Short battery life - even at 2100mAh and with minimal usage it still doesn't quite last for a whole day even on standby.
2. A not-so sharp screen - using this so-called "grey screen" test it was shown to be weaker than the previous-gen Galaxy Nexus
3. Wifi bugs - again when the phone is held in a specific way the wifi signal becomes affected
4. Muffled incoming calls
5. Frequency distortions when a headphone is connected
6. Weak & tiny speakers sound (just like Galaxy Nexus)
7. Very poor speaker grill placement
8. An "average" camera photos
Aside from the hardware issue has the other issues been resolved via software updates? And is Google aware of these issues?
We all know the wonderful and powerful specs (and OS) the Nexus 4 has but these issues seems to be on my head.
Please advice. Thanks.
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I'll answer your questions from what I've experienced.
1.Not sure what you've been doing, but I've been getting 15+ hours and I'm only down to 47%. I use the internet now and then, and play games alot during school.
2. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but it's still a really good screen. I'm not one to be picky of the screen, but i'm happy with it. Only thing I wish was if the colors were more true, but hey, it's still a really really good phone. One of the best, if not the best phone in market.
3. That's never happened to me. No matter which way I hold it, I still get good wifi wherever I am.
4. Muffled calls? That's never happened to me. I can clearly hear the person on the other end all the time.
5. Never even heard of this before. The only thing I can think of causing this would be having an app that wasn't fully compatible with the software/rom on your phone.
6. Coming from the mytouch 4g, the speaker on this phone is really an upgrade. Although it isn't the best on the market, its still pretty loud and you can make it louder if you want with a mod like Eizo.
7. No comment on this, it's the design of the phone. If you let the placement of something ruin your chance of having a good phone, i'm sorry ,but that's ridiculous.
8. Camera photo quality for me is awesome. With the new HDR function android camera's, it makes pictures just as high quality as iphone pictures. Only thing that annoys me is the speed of the camera when HDR is activated. It has to take 3 pictures and blends them together to create one high res picture, but the outcome is worth it.
I'm not one to go looking for problems, but all the problems that have happened to me, they've all been solved with updates for the ROM i'm using, or i just find a solution myself to solve the problem. None the less, a lot of the problems people face can be solved by using the search bar and looking for a solution, or with an update to the software or ROM on your phone.
Once again, this is all from my perspective. Others might have a different opinion on this. In the end, this is still an amazing phone. Better than the iPhone IMO (except the camera.) It's your choice if you want to get this compared to the other phones in the market.
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I am not a fan of custom kernels, rooting or CM ROM's and i would prefer the "normal" updates here & there by Google/LG.
If there is an app to somehow (not magically but if it were then the better) make the speakers louder, make the photos more saturated/sharper/more contrast and further improve the battery life (instead of the usual turning off the GPS, bluetooth, brightness, etc.) then i would be happy with.
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I think there are some apps in the app market that can do that. Volume + , or volume boost, just search volume booster or something.

I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?

gino_76ph said:
I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?
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My advice: Get Nexus 4. I currently own an Optimus 4X HD, despite it's great specs, I must say this phone is a let down.
Why you shouldn't get an O4X:
1. Battery performance super sucks. I managed only to get 12 hours with light usage (I mean, LIGHT)
2. Tegra chipset isn't really compatible with some games. I tried NFS, Nova and it's laggy
3. Update support is extremely poor. I'm still stuck with 4.0.3 and JB update is still indefinite to arrive
Browse O4X thread and see for yourself how many O4X users are unhappy with their handsets.
So, get a N4 and live a happy life.

gino_76ph said:
I'm actually choosing between the Nexus 4 and the slightly older Optimus 4X HD which was made by LG (same as the N4) and has been plagued by almost the same issues especially that LG is notoriously known for very poor customer support and very slow updates. but the Optimus itself is an amazingly-specced phone.
No contest?
A good 2nd choice for the Nexus 4 you think?
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The specs of the 4X HD looked great until I saw the words 'Tegra 3' on GSMarena. You'll be very frustrated with the performance of the Tegra 3, it's quite an awful chipset. Sure, there are tonnes of Tegra optimised apps, but the fact of the matter is that my friend's One X on JB still lags due to the Tegra 3. Even relatively light games such as Super Hexagon (you should try it out if you haven't) and Temple Run 2 (I know it isn't that light but for a phone of this gen it shouldn't be a problem) lag on it.

gino_76ph said:
I am not a fan of custom kernels, rooting or CM ROM's and i would prefer the "normal" updates here & there by Google/LG.
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Then i have to say that the nexus is not the device for you. The coolest thing bout nexus devices is that they are really easy to mod and customize. If you don't plan on doing that, there's no point in getting a nexus device. However, the N4 has the added bonus of being cheap but it still might not be enough for some users (yourself included apparently)

The reason why i'm not a fan of custom kernels and ROMs is maybe perhaps i haven't done it before and i might further "damage" the phone's OS and i might not be able to revert the OS back to its factory settings.
I'm still quite happy with JB on my Galaxy Nexus. The stock version of JB is very slick and i would imagine how even more smoother it is on the Nexus 4.
So far the complaints of the O4XHD has been kind of a viscious circle. Lag has been the word for today. And the fact that it has no JB makes it even more frustrating. I have just emailed LG and their reply re: my list of issues is that there has "been no known issue" with the said phone and they have no word as to when JB is incoming.
The Nexus 4 has still its flaws i think and that doesn't mean it is that good. But now, i'm more geared toward this phone as a "safe" choice rather than the O4XHD.

may i ask sth as well..
regarding the sensitivity issue on the screen, is it regarded as a software issue, or a hardware one?
i m currently thinking of buying a nexus 4, but i m kind of worried about the sensitivity issue, and i keep seeing people complaining about it http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40445 is there any official response on this issue?

I need an good advice

So, my Xperia M4 is broken and I want to buy a new phone.
I read about the oneplus x and I really like it, it has many beautiful features and suitable for developing.
But I read also that because of the high resolution of the display it drains the battery super fast.
And want to ask you oneplus x users:
Do you have a problem with the battery
Does it drains fast.
And finally I want you to give me your general thoughts about this phone should I buys it (note that I want a cheap phone that supports installing custom ROMs especially CM)
Thanks in advance

dont
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point

TarushS said:
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point
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Thanks for answering
I was about to post a question like what he did .
But may I ask u about the battery ??
What do you mean by not good, I mean like 3hrs of on screen is bad for you but maybe they are good for me.
So would you please give numbers, like how much does it last and how much does it take to recharge.
Thanks for answering

TarushS said:
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point
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Overheating issues resolved ? I don't think so, not for me

As the screen is amoled so i use black theme to reduce the battery drain, i usually get around 4hrs+ battery with wifi,data, videos and some game play. Oxygen OS is not good i use Turbo ROM for the customization and stability. The phone is slippery at hand i would recommend using a sticker if you are not a phone case person.

The way I see it, this depends on the price you will pay to get it. At 200$ its still a deal, yes it has some little drawbacks - but for me they are not a major concern, at least for my use of the phone. When I bought it back in January I paid 265$ for it. I wouldn't pay that much now, since for less then 200$ more you can get the mighty OP3. But 200$ seem the reasonable price for it now. Since it come with a plastic screen protector and a light plastic case too, you might even not want to spend more on other accessories.

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