Galaxy SIV : 18 reasons to wait - Galaxy S III General

This is a round up of all the rumors of what we can expect from the S4,
Does anyone here think that some of these are unrealistic?
Lighter, thinner? (not sure about this, as if they decide to put the S Pen built in, it will be hard to slim down the SIV)
Higher Resoltion
Bigger Screen
2GB ram
built in S pen
More durable
android Key Lime pie
Faster Downloads
Faster Uploads
13MP camera
Higher PPi
2MP front camera
Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A15
Mali-T658 GPU
non pentile display
longer battery life
Improved Audio quality

As long as it's not exynos it would be good.

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more antixda community security builtin
more bs bootloaders making sure you get your warranty void
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im afraid i will pass next time and try nexys or sont

do you guys think it will have a s pen? and if they put it in do you think it wont to slim and light?

Don't think it will have a pen, but you never know... Just wait a few months

I In have been a Galaxy fan since the first one.
Loved them since then. I really think that the phone has the best technology and characteristics in the market.
But the S3 is an epic fail in design and construction.
I would love that the S4 is metal or aluminum built and that it feels less flimsy on the hands.
I would also like to keep the screen size of the S3.
I know most will say if I want aluminum get an Iphone but I hate them. And I hate to say that the I5 looks much better than the S3.
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Let me get this straight... This thread presents 18 reasons to wait for the Galaxy SIV, even though none of them is anything more than pure speculation?
Interesting.
In that case, I have 5 more reasons to wait for the SGS IV:
1. Android Lemon Tart
2. Smaller charger
3. SMS Typing with the Power of The Mind™
4. Ability to print money
5. Built-in smoke detector
I can't wait! :silly:
Also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084140, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084235, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891072.

jsikaffy said:
I In have been a Galaxy fan since the first one.
Loved them since then. I really think that the phone has the best technology and characteristics in the market.
But the S3 is an epic fail in design and construction.
I would love that the S4 is metal or aluminum built and that it feels less flimsy on the hands.
I would also like to keep the screen size of the S3.
I know most will say if I want aluminum get an Iphone but I hate them. And I hate to say that the I5 looks much better than the S3.
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You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.

There are rumors of S4 having Tizen OS instead of Android

iridaki said:
Let me get this straight... This thread presents 18 reasons to wait for the Galaxy SIV, even though none of them is anything more than pure speculation?
Interesting.
In that case, I have 5 more reasons to wait for the SGS IV:
1. Android Lemon Tart
2. Smaller charger
3. SMS Typing with the Power of The Mind™
4. Ability to print money
5. Built-in smoke detector
I can't wait! :silly:
Also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084140, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2084235, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891072.
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your exactly right saying the S4 will have a better camera and a higher resolution display than the S3 is pretty much saying it will print money, I love your logic :silly:
there's a difference between educated speculation and pure fantasy.

delsus said:
You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.
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I think the iphone 5 has disproved that, it did better than the S3 in the drop tests

delsus said:
You do know there is more chance of getting shock damage if you drop a phone made of any metal don't you? Plastic absorbs impact much better than metal ever can.
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This might be correct but. I'm not talking durability I'm thinking in design aspect. We are paying 600+ $ for a plastic phone?
Look HTC phones body or nokia they all seem stronger feel better on the hands than the S3.
I expect a much better S4. I want a phone that I will love inside out.
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Galaxy S IV = Galaxy Note 1.9
Please no, 4.8 screen is already enough. To increase it to 5.0 is better to buy a Note. The actually perfect size is 4.7, from the Nexus. Fits very good on the hands. Somehow, smartphones needs to stop increasing the size. If there's a Galaxy Note already, why should the Galaxy S get close to the Note?

marcellocord said:
Galaxy S IV = Galaxy Note 1.9
Please no, 4.8 screen is already enough. To increase it to 5.0 is better to buy a Note. The actually perfect size is 4.7, from the Nexus. Fits very good on the hands. Somehow, smartphones needs to stop increasing the size. If there's a Galaxy Note already, why should the Galaxy S get close to the Note?
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I agree with you! I was happy with galaxy 2 screen size.
Still accept galaxy 3 screen size but please no bigger.
If we want a bigger slate we would get the note or a tablet.
This are phones should fit ur palm and pockets!
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Perfect size phone (for me of course) would be 5.0" with on-screen buttons (like N4 or GNex) and almost zero bezel.

cyprusx said:
I think the iphone 5 has disproved that, it did better than the S3 in the drop tests
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That's not a metal Vs plastic test, the S3 has an extremely thin bezel which offers much less protection, it's the only reason the screen can break easily.
And from a design point of view, so why can I spend over 3k on a plastic TV? Over 1k on a plastic laptop? PS3 was over £500 on release guess what plastic. Its not cutting corners, making things on the cheap it's about making them out of a suitable material, Apple makes their products out of Aluminium for one reason, to drive the price up.
You want proof that Apple does this, The put a 4g chip in the last iPad in the UK, although the UK didn't have 4g. They marketed as 4g although the 4g chip only worked on American frequancies, and would never work in the UK. They were forced to change their marketing and website to remove all mention of 4g in the iPad.

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That's not a metal Vs plastic test, the S3 has an extremely thin bezel which offers much less protection, it's the only reason the screen can break easily.
And from a design point of view, so why can I spend over 3k on a plastic TV? Over 1k on a plastic laptop? PS3 was over £500 on release guess what plastic. Its not cutting corners, making things on the cheap it's about making them out of a suitable material, Apple makes their products out of Aluminium for one reason, to drive the price up.
You want proof that Apple does this, The put a 4g chip in the last iPad in the UK, although the UK didn't have 4g. They marketed as 4g although the 4g chip only worked on American frequancies, and would never work in the UK. They were forced to change their marketing and website to remove all mention of 4g in the iPad.
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Ok enough Iphone bla bla how about nokia, HTC, Sony phones?
Their designs are much more appealing to the eye than the S3.
I'm talking about merely appearance how they look. Not functions or hardware or resistance to falls.
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jsikaffy said:
Ok enough Iphone bla bla how about nokia, HTC, Sony phones?
Their designs are much more appealing to the eye than the S3.
I'm talking about merely appearance how they look. Not functions or hardware or resistance to falls.
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If aesthetics are more important to you than functionality, then I don't know what to say, I like the look of the S3 I like how it feels in my hand I don't need to make it inferior just to satisfy the people who care more about looks than more important things.
Also on the looks if you make the phone out of aluminium, one drop will put a huge chip in it, because aluminium is extremely soft. If you really want an aluminium phone, get your S3, take it apart and wrap it in foil, and bang there's an aluminium phone.

delsus said:
If aesthetics are more important to you than functionality, then I don't know what to say, I like the look of the S3 I like how it feels in my hand I don't need to make it inferior just to satisfy the people who care more about looks than more important things.
Also on the looks if you make the phone out of aluminium, one drop will put a huge chip in it, because aluminium is extremely soft. If you really want an aluminium phone, get your S3, take it apart and wrap it in foil, and bang there's an aluminium phone.
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I choose S3 for functionality and all it has inside. Speed etc.
But it's my opinion there are nicest phones out there. Yes of inferior quality with not all the pluses of the S3.
Just hope that the S4 looks as good on the outside as its quality on the inside.
Love my S3.
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jsikaffy said:
I choose S3 for functionality and all it has inside. Speed etc.
But it's my opinion there are nicest phones out there. Yes of inferior quality with not all the pluses of the S3.
Just hope that the S4 looks as good on the outside as its quality on the inside.
Love my S3.
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Honestly you would get a phone made of aluminium and one drop a huge chip in the edge, it will never look or feel as good, whereas with the S3 you would only get a crack, if that.

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About that replaceable plastic (Sammy) vs unibody (HTC) thing...

First of all I have to say, the Samsung Galaxy S3 looks veeeery good to me.
You want to know why?
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
2. Plastic, it's very sturdy and therefore less damage can happen when it's dropped e.g. to the floor. Drop an iPhone/HTC and get ready to call the service line.
3. Weight, plastic is the way to go if you want a thin and light phone. Some people here sound as if they would like a flipping phone made out of solid osmium (heaviest of all metals)
4. Replaceable components, seriously guys, UNIBODY MY ASS, I want to be able to replace the battery without having to send it to Samsung and wait for the service to fix it. On top of that Unibody doesn't allow you to buy a bigger battery for your phone (though I think the stock 2100 mAh already is good!)
And no SD Card slot like the HTC One X? LOL.
5. Sorry for my english
Those being just some arguments which definately make reasonable why Sammy doesn't choose as same path as HTC/Apple.
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
Master05 said:
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
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I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Talking about similarities, just a couple of days ago I found this article very amusing..
Plastic is a terrible conductor of heat.
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Nice talk.you are a genius.like your points
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edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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Agreed. I personally like the back cover of the Galaxy Nexus. I'm not a fan of high gloss. Some kind of texture would would have been nice.
edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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It's only a bit of plastic on the back that I'm sure you'll be able to buy third party ones.
ciscostud said:
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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You can surely find lots of interesting faceplates and back covers for the SIII, even my Galaxy Ace has tons of awesome looking designs on a design store in an Indian Website(that's in english)
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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me too.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
i find it amusing that people think samsung doesnt use metal. the screen is bonded to a cast frame presumably aluminum but maybe magnesium on all the phones i have repaired. remove the battery and scrape the black area underneath with a sharp metal object if you dont believe me. the plastic they use is not only tough and fracture resistant but it's pretty much superficial.
now im sure htc has improved their designs but the evo was toy like in construction. thin cheap plastics and the pcb was a thin single layer design and the copper traces could easily seperate from the board. also the one i repaired had cold solder joints and the spring contacts they used in place or cables were falling off the board.
samsung does things that are frustrating from a development point of view but i never agreed with the quality argument.
well i'm looking forward to the s3 for the audio mostly. but i want to see what challenges the hardware offers aosp development. though i like touch wiz i dont expect samsung to support the device for more than 1 or 2 major updates. i have learned my lesson and will only buy the us version if it is the same hardware profile as the international version. and ill only buy an s3 if the bt and other hardware are aosp friendly.
Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Or this. Yours for only $89.
rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
ph00ny said:
It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
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German cars do have a better quality , I know from experience. But I get your point its how you use the material.
I think the plastic on the back of my galaxy nexus feels great .
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Sim-1 said:
I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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I'm sure they will make a back that's matt just like the hox
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Yep replacement battery all the way!

The SIII IS actually polycarbonate! (confirmed)

Polycarbonate is used on the battery cover. Polycarbonate is lightweight, solid and is already being widely used in the mobile industry. It was chosen as the best material to represent the minimal organic design of GALAXY S III. Using three layers of high quality, pure and clear polycarbonate, not only is the phone’s aesthetic elevated, but the durability and scratch resistance is maximized.
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Straight from Samsung's mouth!
This is great news!
Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Conf...xy-S-III-is-polycarbonate-not-plastic_id30304
Nice to hear. But you do realize that polycarbonate is just another kind of thermoplastic ploymer (read: plastic). It's got some unique properties that make it particularly suitable for a mobile phone's casing and so it's indeed good news for us prospective SGS3 owners. But however we put it, it's still plastic - which is not necessarily a bad thing. The One X is plastic too... and it's just the material thickness and surface processing that is different from the SGS3 - matte versus gloss (or hyperglazed as Samsung calls it).
This is from Wikipedia:
Polycarbonates received their name because they are polymers containing carbonate groups (–O–(C=O)–O–). Most polycarbonates of commercial interest are derived from rigid monomers. A balance of useful features including temperature resistance, impact resistance and optical properties position polycarbonates between commodity plastics and engineering plastics.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_identification_code#Plastic_identification_code
They're grouped under Plastics as a material - As category 7 (Others)
So it's all plastic - both the OneX and the SGS3... just with a fancy name (and two different surface treatments) and I think that's the best choice of material for a 4.5+ inch phone to keep the chassis lightweight, flexible and durable, while also avoiding havoc with the various internal antennas that a mobile phone contains (as opposed to the so called premium aluminium).
I'm very happy it is what it is... and looking forward to playing around with one soon. Happy shopping everyone!!
I'm well aware that it's a type of plastic, but now we're just into silly semantics.
Gorilla Glass is also a type of glass.
Plexicle said:
I'm well aware that it's a type of plastic, but now we're just into silly semantics.
Gorilla Glass is also a type of glass.
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Can't argue with you there mate!
I wasn't trying to shoot down what you said pal... in fact I agree with you. What I was trying to get across was that I'm glad it's polycarbonate. Shuts the OneX fanboys up - it's not something exclusive HTC cooked up in its basement (unlike the now infamous Micro Arc Oxidation process), and is a very good choice of material as compared to conventional plastic. Obviously my communication skills need some work.
enigmaamit said:
Can't argue with you there mate!
I wasn't trying to shoot down what you said pal... in fact I agree with you. What I was trying to get across was that I'm glad it's polycarbonate. Shuts the OneX fanboys up - it's not something exclusive HTC cooked up in its basement (unlike the now infamous Micro Arc Oxidation process), and is a very good choice of material as compared to conventional plastic. Obviously my communication skills need some work.
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Oh, no, I wasn't shooting you down either! I thought it was a good point.
It may look or feel like a cheaper plastic. But the durability and functionality of it are really what matters to me, and I'm happy to hear that it's polycarbonate.
Plexicle said:
Oh, no, I wasn't shooting you down either! I thought it was a good point.
It may look or feel like a cheaper plastic. But the durability and functionality of it are really what matters to me, and I'm happy to hear that it's polycarbonate.
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Glad we understand each other. So you're planning to get one then, I presume? Hope you have a good time with it.
Getting mine next month. Will be combing this thread for user reviews before taking the plunge. This place will be exploding with info and revelations once the device hits the shelves (look at it already!!) . Be seein you around. G'day mate.
I thought this was a known fact to everyone from the first day the SIII was announced lol. At least its cleared it up for anyone that didn't know.
Reckless187 said:
I thought this was a known fact to everyone from the first day the SIII was announced lol. At least its cleared it up for anyone that didn't know.
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I'm not quite sure where you heard it, but I've been following every morsel of information on the S3, including the rumors for the past year. I watched the Unboxing event from start to finish when it was officially announced. I've watched and read every review in the last couple weeks. I've had mine on pre-order as soon as I was able to.
Hell, even a quote from the source that I just linked reads:
Everyone, including us, were convinced that the Galaxy S III was using a plastic case, but we just got word from Samsung that the phone is better than you think.
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So, I guess the information was out there somewhere, but apparently I (and many others) have missed it. I certainly wouldn't say it was "a known fact to everyone from the first day the SIII was announced."
Reckless187 said:
I thought this was a known fact to everyone from the first day the SIII was announced lol. At least its cleared it up for anyone that didn't know.
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Plexicle said:
So, I guess the information was out there somewhere, but apparently I (and many others) have missed it. I certainly wouldn't say it was "a known fact to everyone from the first day the SIII was announced."
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Have to say that today is the first time that i've come across this information myself... wasn't common knowledge so far. This was actually one of the major bone of contention with the HOX users who felt that it was exclusive to HTC's flagship. So as far as i'm concerned, it's new info, and certainly good news.
Great news, but also rather expected
I have had the SGS 2 since it was launched in May 2011 in Denmark, and nothing has broken yet. The "flimsy" back of the phone is in mint condition after a freaking lot of battery changes. So it is hardly as flimsy as it may feel to reviewers when it's not on the phone. A part from some tear on the hump, and a scratch on one of the corners from one of the times I dropped it on concrete, there is nothing to see. It almost looks brand new.
I thought everyone knew that the sgs3 and HOX both used polycarbonate? The only difference being the sgs3 is glossy whereas the HOX has a matt finish. I mean, what did you all think it was? cheapo acrylic?
Having dropped the S2 and the note hardcore on concrete and asphalt multiple times, i can definitely confirm the quality of the said plastic
After reading S3 is made of polycarbonate I took closer look and you know what it actually looks the exact bloody same!! that is cheap plastic look, just what i wanted for my £500.
Consumers are so dumb (no offence ofcourse).
Polycarbonate is Plastic, we, the consumers just like fancy words like Polycarbonate and we're sold on the product...
If this was Apple you know they'd have called it HyperReal3DPlastic or some such nonsense and the whole tech world would have gone mad over yet another Apple 'invention', and people would be complaining why other phones aren't as good.
Yonatanl2 said:
Consumers are so dumb (no offence ofcourse).
Polycarbonate is Plastic, we, the consumers just like fancy words like Polycarbonate and we're sold on the product...
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I understand that you feel like you're being smart (no offense, of course), but polycarbonate is a type of plastic. Speficially, it's stronger and lighter (and thus more expensive) than your run-of-the-mill plastic.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-polycarbonate.htm
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I'm well aware that it's a type of plastic, but now we're just into silly semantics.
Gorilla Glass is also a type of glass.
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Exactly lol. I didn't mind if it was called plastic at all as the plastic they use is more durable than any other materials manufacturers are using anyway. Polycarbonate does sound better!
ECrispy said:
If this was Apple you know they'd have called it HyperReal3DPlastic or some such nonsense and the whole tech world would have gone mad over yet another Apple 'invention', and people would be complaining why other phones aren't as good.
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Nah, they'd have called it iPolymer or i something or other and if Steve Jobs were still alive and had made the keynote speech, he'd have said: "...it's just the best plastic ever..."
A follow up article from the same source to help clarify a few things:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/What...ung-Galaxy-S-III-polycarbonate-debate_id30406
Hyperglaze is just a clear top coat of plastic over the color coat. This helps with fingerprints and gives it a more liquid look.
After owning two Samsung phones s2 and now gn I can say having plastic is better. When I had my ip4 I was always scared to drop it chip it scratch it.
Sammy did well
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Note 2 to have unbreakable screen in October!!!

http://news.mk.co.kr/english/newsRead.php?rss=Y&sc=30800011&year=2012&no=360619
The next Note will have an even larger screen with flexible AMOLED, which is unbreakable! Sounds amazing if true! I want one!
I hope this is true but will put me in a dilemma as I was thinking of getting the note 10.1!
I will get Note 10.1! ..if they will ever release it
If it only was true.....
The note 1 is supposed to have gorilla glass, scratch proof etc. etc. How many have already their screen scratched ?? Battery life improvement with a bigger lcd ?? If we don't use our devices they will last at least a week, that's true !!
I never had the expected battery life they anounced using the phone normally, in fact the ics update made things worse... What's the point of anouncing things that aren't (yet) possible ??
After the latest problem with the update (that they already knew from earlier devices, nexus for example) they still insist in errors from tha past that shouldn't even be possible....... Well i really like my note i just don't like samsung. If they don't solve the problems with the first note before launching the second one .......... But it's all to be in the race with apple...
I'm starting to think i should have bought a zte or an lg.......
becosemsaida
Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
DJsCrIBbLe said:
Damn ppl gorilla glass is scratch resistant not proof ...
Galaxy note Paranoid Android 1.7ghz goodness
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So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.
How about the glass that covers the screen and the digitizer?
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becosemsaida said:
So is the windshield of my car....... no big advertisement here.
I will not flash a rom untill the bug is solved. Yes i will miss my note if it bricks since the average repair time seems to be 2-3 weeks and still will come with the same problem.
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Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??
Here is the mock up image http://i.imgur.com/kZuwC.jpg and source http://www.motoringcrunch.com/news/mobile-tech/10946-samsung-galaxy-note-2-s3-rumors
Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.
I bought mine on last sunday, i say i wont replace it for years! It's the best phone i ever had... and dude... i had lots! I was addicted to apple products, then i bought galaxy nexus 2 months ago and now i have the note. Its awesome...
Got my note upon first release in November, I love it dearly, but I want to move on. I think I want something bigger.... I'm waiting to hear about the Nexus Tablet... hopefully that thing is all I expect it be be, and I will use that as my phone
Oh boy... and here comes the speculation....
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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Ever noticed how many scratches your windshield has in direct sunlight ??
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Yep, if it wasn't for insurance...... Can't find a screen protector with the right size for it
What I love is the fact that people equate flexible to unbreakable.
I bet if you sit on a flexible screen the wrong way so as to fold it it would break. Reminds me of all the talk when CD's first came out, they said they were unbreakable, my car and the sun proved them wrong in the first week of owning one.
I will be happy if they have a flexible display as I wont be tempted to upgrade.
But like I posted elsewhere I cannot see it happening. What makes the Note unique (besides its size) is its S-pen, as the s-pen requires sensors behind the screen to detect the button presses I can not see how they would incorporate that is a flexible screen.
But I may be wrong
From how I read it the only reason they are using the flexible screen tech is because its much thinner, this will either allow a thinner device then the current note or keep the dimensions giving room for a larger battery. That mockup prototype has nothing to do with the note 2 and I cant ever see a phone design like that. If you put any decent force on it in that folded position the thing would break unless it was made of rubber.
I dont expect it to actually have a flexible screen unless its some type of flip foldout multiscreen design which I doubt it will have, this would make it a true phone tab hybrid if its in the note form factor but could extend out to a tablet. This will probably be the note 3 that does this I wouod think and not something out in october.
Note 2 will likely have a 5.5-5.7 inch screen hopefuly around 1080p with a 3000mah battery or slightly larger if possible. The physical size wont be much larger then the current note but heavier due to the larger battery as larger capacity equals more weight. Being a note it will have a stylus for sure and the phone going by this release will have the same quad as the gs3 maybe slighlty higher clocked, not the faster arm v15 duel core.
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guys i dont want an unbreakable screen and stuff....i just want sammy to not foolishly waste the marvels they create!!example: the note:its by far THE BEST phone ive ever used...screen unbelievable: the day i bought it, another guy was buying the s3 and i didnt even feel bad, my phone was looking way better than his..
but i say waste their marvels coz: that ungodly black crush issue. heck almost every note had it in that store and moreover their dealers denied it, saying it was absent when all you had to do was open the calculator app and see the ugly banding right there..they refused to accept and said it was 'the design'..
and photos taken in the dark have this issue too...
other than this this phone ROCKS!!!!! I mean the size is just coooool..never slows down under any kind of multitasking, never heats up, battery is superb..
just wish for note 2, they COMPLETELY get rid of this issue!!! note rocks!!
my note2 = note - black crush + stable ics !!!! ( dont get better than that!!!)
I will never waste more money on another updated note...its never worth it lol this note is perfeft size. Any bigger would be stupid but tk each their own. I got my note sim free so i paid a gud amount for it. I wont be sucked in with tiny updates and 12 mp camera, just another stunt to make folks spend more money.
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Boy124 said:
Hope they stick with current screen size. It is perfect.
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agree with you mate
I'd love a slightly larger screen. It'll likely be 5'5"...but anything short of 6" would be fine with me.

What if the S5 was metal??

Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.
It does not need metal, but pls not that ugly, even moto g looks better
Samsung is only caring about our money, how to make the most money
I'd go out and say that it looks worse than the S4
Well look at my thread HERE... looks like we may be getting a metal one in May
hamad138 said:
It does not need metal, but pls not that ugly, even moto g looks better
Samsung is only caring about our money, how to make the most money
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Samsung has the most aftermarket accessories out of any company other than Apple.
On ebay you can buy a replacement battery door that suits your needs for less than $5.
I dont know, the black looks pretty good to me.
seoulbrova said:
Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.
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Waterproof because that's an issue the masses have right? People jumping on the ones who aren't blindly following samsung are equally as annoying.
It should have better material along with a fresh look. It should have a newer version of TW that looks/ feels new and doesn't crush 8+GB of storage. It should focus a little on the sound quality.
The HTC One had a totally revamped design and revamped version of Sense and it only won smartphone of the year. If this phone didn't say Samsung, it would be a huge fail
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seoulbrova said:
Samsung has the most aftermarket accessories out of any company other than Apple.
On ebay you can buy a replacement battery door that suits your needs for less than $5.
I dont know, the black looks pretty good to me.
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The back cover isn't the problem, like you said most are going to use a case. I certainly will buy the Buckdroid and the Otter Box Defender also don't confuse waterproof with water resistant. It's "only" water resitant not water proof.
I don't want metal. Metal = heavier. I would have like a thin bezel though...
I don't mind the plastic at all. Too many people complain about it not being metal. Plastic is lightweight, less prone to scratches or damages when dropped, and you can remove the cover for the battery/SD card, which is always a good thing.
seoulbrova said:
Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.
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People aren't complaining because of plastic. The problem is the hype created becacuse of rumored UHD screen, 64bit processor, a giant battery and even the deal Sammy made with Google. I don't know if 3gb are really is necessary or not, I never used more than 1.3GB but 32GB of storage would be nice. Maybe it's because of the new rumored Galaxy F, they say the GS5 will be cheaper than the GS4 so it kinda makes sense.
no, the material is no problem for me.
what maters to me is:
1. back cover design. I'm not type of people who like to use colorful case, I like the transparent one so when I use my phone, people will know what phone I'm using. And that design is not work for me. I personally more like pattern of the S4 back cover. It feels more elegant to my eyes. And don't say those faux leather in note 3. I like it almost. So if the S5 use those like in note 3. I'll be more attract to s5 rather than z2.
2. the battery. It's already boosted 200 mAh from the s4. That's great but not enough. I own myself a S4. It's pretty durable when use power saving mode. but that's where I hate it. When in power saving mode. When I move from outdoor to an indoor place. The screen is very2 dark and I almost can't see it. I don't know about this mode in S5, or the stamina mode in sony device. If same as in my S4, then I need bigger battery for my next phone so I can use it in full day without those power saving things.
3. As like many other people in xda discuss it about when it's first implemented. knox things. I hate when samsung finally use it. I know it's just a flag, but I didn't know how the regulation about that knox warranty here in my country. And if that knox used as one of main upgrade (like that knox countainer in S4 upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3), obviously we here can't use it. And make the upgrade less.. useful I guess. Since phone performance will not dramatically change because the phone still have same component
tarpon6 said:
I don't want metal. Metal = heavier. I would have like a thin bezel though...
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I totally agree. Plastic is tougher and lighter.
dandroid13 said:
People aren't complaining because of plastic. The problem is the hype created becacuse of rumored UHD screen, 64bit processor, a giant battery and even the deal Sammy made with Google. I don't know if 3gb are really is necessary or not, I never used more than 1.3GB but 32GB of storage would be nice. Maybe it's because of the new rumored Galaxy F, they say the GS5 will be cheaper than the GS4 so it kinda makes sense.
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The only thing is, who put out these rumors? Samsung never hinted at any of these.
If the phone were metal, it would be metal. Samsung has always used a good grade of plastic for their high end devices and I prefer plastic over metal for my phone. The design is not ugly either, to me it is a decent design but it's also an uninspiring design looking at two factors.
1. Samsung claimed that the S5 would have a new design, claiming they will go back to the basics with this design.
2. The design looks like the past offerings. I understand brand identity, but aside from the back and the usb port, the design almost matches the S4 and a smaller version of the Note 3.
its not about metal or plastic , its about the design it self :silly:
yahyoh said:
its not about metal or plastic , its about the design it self :silly:
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But thinking about it, the resulting design is very logical as opposed to the wet dreams of forumers, it's a mix between the S4 and the Note 3 with a few new elements. As logical as it gets. Not very exciting, but probably a rather good design choice usability wise.
Rippley05 said:
Waterproof because that's an issue the masses have right? People jumping on the ones who aren't blindly following samsung are equally as annoying.
It should have better material along with a fresh look. It should have a newer version of TW that looks/ feels new and doesn't crush 8+GB of storage. It should focus a little on the sound quality.
The HTC One had a totally revamped design and revamped version of Sense and it only won smartphone of the year. If this phone didn't say Samsung, it would be a huge fail
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judging by the released shots of the next gen HTC one, it looks nearly identical to this generations.
Waterproof isnt an issue? Do you know how many people get denied service on their phones for "water damage" even though the phones were never dropped in water? I've had it happen to me multiple times merely because steam/rain/humidity turn the sensors on to indicate water damage even though Ive made sure they never got wet.
People can be such hypocrites sometimes, everyone was bashing the iPhone for being the same thing over and over again, then it was samsung and everyone hailed the HTC one, now they are going to release the exact same phone let's hear how they gonna defend that. Problem is its very hard and costly to come out with different designs especially when you're releasing more than one device a year. I don't like the s5 and don't think will buy it
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I don't care about plastic or metal but let's face ever since the s3 samsung has put out extremely fragile phones that are prone to cracking. The s2 was made from plastic but it could take a beating not the s3 or s4. I use to see cracked iPhone 4 screens but since the iPhone 5 I see less cracked iphones and more and more cracked Samsung's.
The Nexus 5 is made from plastic but it has a very nice feel and feels more durable
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If it was metal then when it falls and reach the floor the repair cost will be double at least...
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Metal is overrated.
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Are you finding the Z3C too thick?

Hi All,
Coming from an old Galaxy S2 and comparing the specs, the Z3C is slightly thicker than my S2. How does it feel in your hands? Does it seem clunky due to the thickness?
ChiGGz said:
Hi All,
Coming from an old Galaxy S2 and comparing the specs, the X3C is slightly thicker than my S2. How does it feel in your hands? Does it seem clunky due to the thickness?
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Not really.
Not at all.
If anything, it's too thin. There isn't a lot to grab on to.
Not at all - I can hold it pretty comfortably.
I don't know, as mine is still out for delivery.
However, I am using a Kyocera Hydro Vibe as an interim phone, and like you I am coming from a Galaxy SII. The Hydro Vibe is roughly the same dimensions as the Z3C, and I can tell you, I prefer the Vibe's size over that of the GSII. This link might help you get a better idea of of how the phones stack up with each other.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...IBE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-II/phones/8744,8641,5106
ChiGGz said:
Hi All,
Coming from an old Galaxy S2 and comparing the specs, the X3C is slightly thicker than my S2. How does it feel in your hands? Does it seem clunky due to the thickness?
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Well I'm coming from (still using) a Jolla, which is +3.7L,+3.1W,+1.3D (mm) larger than the Z3C. and the latter feels massively more compact. Personally I find it too thin.
Relative to your SII, the Z3C. is +2L,-1.2W,+0.1D (mm). Slightly longer (not really relevant for handling), less wide ... and if you think you can feel 0.1mm thicker ... you're more sensitive than me. I'd say you shouldn't have any concerns at all. It should feel less 'clunky' than the SII due to being less wide.
Heck, I'd even take an extra millimeter or two, if it meant I could get something more than this paltry, meager two day battery life.
Thin is overrated.
Coming from an HTC One S, thickness is great, the former I had to use with a case as it was actually too thin. I was surprised by the weight of the Z3C though.
Thick my xperia neo v
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Kev1000000 said:
If anything, it's too thin. There isn't a lot to grab on to.
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Ditto - I can't wait for my case to come in tomorrow.
Half tempted to ask a friend to 3D print something to give it a curved back.
stormbeta said:
Ditto - I can't wait for my case to come in tomorrow.
Half tempted to ask a friend to 3D print something to give it a curved back.
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Anyone come from the m7?
I love the curve on that...but the m8 is kinda...odd to me
degraaff said:
Thin is overrated.
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Bingo! Totally agree.
Definitely not too thick, any thinner and I'd get agitated
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Sometimes I feel it's too thin. Together with it being slippery, it makes it hard to pick it up from a table.
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marumari said:
Heck, I'd even take an extra millimeter or two, if it meant I could get something more than this paltry, meager two day battery life.
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Yup. I won't mind it being 1 or 2 mm thicker if they use that extra thickness to good use, like filling it up with battery goodness, or maybe even wireless charging.
I don't fully agree with the present trend of bigger display sizes, thinner phones and QHD. A little over-kill, IMO.
Had it in my hands all night, it needs more beef ... Too worried about not having not enough grip.
Feels great in the hand. I'd say the thickness is spot on. Feels well-built and solid.
Not too thick and not too thin. Perfect for me. It looks thin though sitting on a table. I think it is due to it's sandwich style.

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