am getting a bit concerned, only got 250mb, of ram left, and have only installed a few apps. Am just worried what will happen, when i download more apps, since most apps, despite being able to save them on the memory card willl still have to use the ram.?
marvi0 said:
am getting a bit concerned, only got 250mb, of ram left, and have only installed a few apps. Am just worried what will happen, when i download more apps, since most apps, despite being able to save them on the memory card willl still have to use the ram.?
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I have 7 screens in the main menu full of games now on my Xperia Play. And have 149MB free space. Use the SD card for apps, thats why it came with a 16GB card. If you need to move your apps to make space go to "settings" then "applications" then "manage applications" then on the top "On SD card". Any that are not ticked can be moved to SD card to make room.
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I have 7 screens in the main menu full of games now on my Xperia Play. And have 149MB free space. Use the SD card for apps, thats why it came with a 16GB card. If you need to move your apps to make space go to "settings" then "applications" then "manage applications" then on the top "On SD card". Any that are not ticked can be moved to SD card to make room.
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Thanks but this is what i mean you are already left with 150 mb so really this should be bad news. How many games have you got if you please don't do not mind me asking?.
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I have 7 screens in the main menu full of games now on my Xperia Play. And have 149MB free space. Use the SD card for apps, thats why it came with a 16GB card. If you need to move your apps to make space go to "settings" then "applications" then "manage applications" then on the top "On SD card". Any that are not ticked can be moved to SD card to make room.
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how do you add/remove homescreens? i am only using one at the moment and really want to get rid of the blank ones!!
39 games on my xperia play. You think this is low then you should know it was allot lower on my other phones especially my nexus one. This things a god send. Also bare in mine I have tango installed which takes 50mb almost.
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You unfortunately can't. But it takes no processes extra so don't worry. You can remove on some custom roms but they haven't started on them yet, although CM will be on it me thinks maybe when this thing gets rooted.
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Ahh I see, thanks.
100 mb of ram is even enough, don't see why you need more?
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MJ_QaT said:
100 mb of ram is even enough, don't see why you need more?
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Must admit this is very true.
Thanks for the replies was just worried cause I kinda prefer loading a lot of Apps and games andand two months down the line i don't want to find out i have loads of memory on my memory card but unable to add any more apps or games.
marvi0 said:
Thanks for the replies was just worried cause I kinda prefer loading a lot of Apps and games andand two months down the line i don't want to find out i have loads of memory on my memory card but unable to add any more apps or games.
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Hmm, when you say "loading a lot of apps and games" do you mean running two games at once?
Downloading doesn't have to do with Ram availability. You can download everything as long as you have free space in your memory card .... But running them all is not a good idea even if you have 1gb free ram
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this isn't windows mobile you guys... windows mobile stored applications in ram, and most winmo devices need a hud battery (hold-up battery) to maintain that application store when the main battery died. ANYWAY...
ram does not equal app storeage on android. Your apps can be downloaded to nand or sd card...
the xperia play has like 1GB nand/flash for the OS and data partition, plus apps2sd gives you virtually limitless app storeage. That is in the addition to the 400mb of RAM. Remember RAM and NAND/FLASH are 2 completely separate things. Volitile and non-volitile. RAM needs constant flow of power to retain information, NAND does not.
the 400mb of ram is useable at all times regardless of the quanity of applications installed, it's only effected by current running apps, and even with only 100-200mb free ram... that's plenty of any program you want to run, the memory management in android will assure that the active running app will have adaquate resources to run the app you are wanting to run, it silently closes inactive apps in the background to make most efficent use of that 400mb
sorry for breaking it down like barney, but it appears it was needed from the question and the responces that some people maybe didn't understand the question or situation exactly.
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this isn't windows mobile you guys... windows mobile stored applications in ram, and most winmo devices need a hud battery (hold-up battery) to maintain that application store when the main battery died. ANYWAY...
ram does not equal app storeage on android. Your apps can be downloaded to nand or sd card...
the xperia play has like 1GB nand/flash for the OS and data partition, plus apps2sd gives you virtually limitless app storeage. That is in the addition to the 400mb of RAM. Remember RAM and NAND/FLASH are 2 completely separate things. Volitile and non-volitile. RAM needs constant flow of power to retain information, NAND does not.
the 400mb of ram is useable at all times regardless of the quanity of applications installed, it's only effected by current running apps, and even with only 100-200mb free ram... that's plenty of any program you want to run, the memory management in android will assure that the active running app will have adaquate resources to run the app you are wanting to run, it silently closes inactive apps in the background to make most efficent use of that 400mb
sorry for breaking it down like barney, but it appears it was needed from the question and the responces that some people maybe didn't understand the question or situation exactly.
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Lol, it's not a good idea to generalize your post like that, it's really insulting to talk to us like we don't know the difference between a Ram and Nand/Flash Rom
My understanding of the question as is 400mb Ram enough or not? Hence my answer is yes, having 100 mb free ram space is more than enough
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Lol, it's not a good idea to generalize your post like that, it's really insulting to talk to us like we don't know the difference between a Ram and Nand/Flash Rom
My understanding of the question as is 400mb Ram enough or not? Hence my answer is yes, having 100 mb free ram space is more than enough
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I wasn't meaning it to be insulting and it's hard to tell where people are at on the technical level, but as a first time android person, and in sometimes first time smartphone person things can be a little confusing.
I just wanted to make sure the foundation was good in case there was any confusion.
Like I said I didn't mean it to be insulting, I'm honestly trying to help.
is'nt it really 512mb ram? but i think the system holds off a certain amount to run the OS or something so we're kinda left with 400mb. that said i think the real thing here is WE are'nt left with anything as WE dont do anything with the 400mb, the OS uses as it pleases depending on how many apps are running, surely? but i think johnsongrantr put it well....
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is'nt it really 512mb ram? but i think the system holds off a certain amount to run the OS or something so we're kinda left with 400mb. that said i think the real thing here is WE are'nt left with anything as WE dont do anything with the 400mb, the OS uses as it pleases depending on how many apps are running, surely? but i think johnsongrantr put it well....
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yea I have no idea how they got 400, base 2 doesn't land on 400. Maybe 256 + 128 chips and they rounded to 400? No clue, I'd be curious to find that out myself.
I bet that ~112mb is probably shared video memory or something stupid like that. Everywhere I read has said 400mb though.
EDIT: it's 512, with 112 reserved for something that is not identified. Check the first couple paragraphs.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/04/01/xperia™-play-hits-the-stores/
A lot of people here seem a little confused on what the Xperia Play has in terms of memory. I'll do my best to explain this without insulting anyones intelligence.
So the Xperia Play has 1GB of app storage which is basically the equivalent of hard drive space that a PC would have. This is used in conjunction with the SD card to store apps. It's also the same memory used for the OS. So it has 1gb of this memory, but ONLY 400mb is usable because most of it is used by the OS and bloatware.
So where the Xperia Play had 1gb, the DroidX has 8gbs. So really the Play has crap for storage.
Then on top of that the Xperia Play has 512mb of Ram. Everyone knows what that is, so I wont explain that. But this really isn't different from most high end Android phones.
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@tornlogic- The Xperia play has dual channel RAM which is first in class and provides 2x performance boost to normal ram. Its the quality that matters, not the quantity.
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@tornlogic- The Xperia play has dual channel RAM which is first in class and provides 2x performance boost to normal ram. Its the quality that matters, not the quantity.
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This is where people are confused. I said that the Xperia Play has 512mb of Ram which is what most highend Android phones have. And that's great! I mean the Bionic will have a gig, but who cares? So why would you tell me quality matters not quantity when I said that 512mb is fine and dandy?
Its the 400mb of user storage, which is NOT dual channel I have a problem with.
Think of the 400mb storage as the phone's hard drive. You can throw the sd card in the trash, and the phone will work just fine. You can still dl apps, save photo, documents and whatever your little heart desires without an SD card. Its all stored on the 400mb of space Sony thinks is a lot, but actually isn't.
Again, my DX has 8gb of storage. The Sony has 400mb. Both phones have 512mb of RAM, with the Sony having dual channel RAM, NOT dual channel storage. Clear?
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Lol, see now I was the one confused, I have seen the 400mb number quoted as the ram on many websites, I think even engadget. But that makes much more sense now that it's 400mb free NAND after the system image. Something wasn't matching up right with the numbers.
Thanks for the info about the dual channel ram, I didnt know that either.
I have tried every app to SD apps I can find and none of them work on my 3.1 tranformer.
All of them take me to the built in app management page and do not provide any move to SD BUTTON. I m nub to android .
android 3.0/3.1 manages the space for apps and data itself, you can use the space however you like, fill the whole 16/32gb up with apps if you like, or have just a few and tons of movies etc fill the space.
apps2sd isn't necessary or possible in honeycomb.
I was talking about the micro SD slot.
Are you saying that when it runs out of space on the internal storage it starts using the micro
SD if not how no I move apps onto the micro SD? That seem to be what those app to SD do. This is confusing.
The apps were for android 2.x devices that only had a small amount of storage and used SD cards for extra. Your transformer has 16GB of space to fill. If you keep your media on sd cards you'll have a hard time filling 16GB with apps.
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android 3.0/3.1 manages the space for apps and data itself, you can use the space however you like, fill the whole 16/32gb up with apps if you like, or have just a few and tons of movies etc fill the space.
apps2sd isn't necessary or possible in honeycomb.
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Are you saying that when it runs out of space on the internal storage it starts using the micro SD if not how no I move apps onto the micro SD? That seem to be what those app to SD do. This is confusing.
Pre Honeycomb, you generally had a limited amount of space to install apps (say 512mb Max). With Honeycomb, pretty much all the space you have can be taken up by apps if required, but the SD card is still available for media.
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Dave
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The apps were for android 2.x devices that only had a small amount of storage and used SD cards for extra. Your transformer has 16GB of space to fill. If you keep your media on sd cards you'll have a hard time filling 16GB with apps.
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thank. I got the 32 GB version.
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thank. I got the 32 GB version.
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honeycomb is different from android 2.x ...the whole internal storage is like the old microsd....it will take quite a bit effort to fill in its 16 or 32gb space ....
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honeycomb is different from android 2.x ...the whole internal storage is like the old microsd....it will take quite a bit effort to fill in its 16 or 32gb space ....
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Just add sat nav programs.
Copilot, Aura and Google Nav, theres almost 10gig. lol..
Even the Froyo A2SD doesn't help much to clear up internal space as only the app itself get move, any data related to the apps still reside in the phone.
Like already stated, even the 16G TF there's a lot of space.
Hello
I have a question.
I looked at my storage space today (in settings) and it shows as 16gb used and 11gb free. But i dont have apps that large.
So my question is. Is this an error or when its not what uses so much storage space?
I looked trough my apps and none uses enough storage to fill this much space.
What did i overlook?
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Do you have the 32GB or 16GB model? Also, which section are you looking at?
I have the 16 GB model, so my "Internal Storage" section reads 12.51GB total space. The graph breaks it down as 4.55GB of media files and 0.49GB (500MB) for applications, with 7.47GB remaining free space.
Unfortunately, you have not provided near enough information for us to assist effectively. More detail please.
Google map takes 256 mb itself and can grow with cache .
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Its the 32 gb model
The 16 gb used are just applications. 700MB for media and 11 gb free.
So the space adds up correctly to the 32 gb version
But i have only like 35 apps installed. Most of them i have on my phone too
I looked under applications and none of the downloaded apps (even with data and cache) are big enough by themself or summed together to fill 16gb. Did not look trough all app that came preinstalled though.
So i am wondering where the storage space goes.
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Shows around 1.85GB of RAM on my Nexus 4.
1.85gb ram available or total?
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1.85gb ram available or total?
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Total
Its normal. It's similar to how your system data takes up a set amount of space so the phone says you only have ~13gb total when the internal storage is 16gb. The system is holding that RAM hostage (lol) for its normal processes
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Its normal. It's similar to how your system data takes up a set amount of space so the phone says you only have ~13gb total when the internal storage is 16gb. The system is holding that RAM hostage (lol) for its normal processes
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Exactly. The difference between calculating between 1024 and 1000.
Not really being held hostage more like the memory is being reserved for system processes. But yeah same thing similar to internalized storage
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How do i liberate that space? i tried wipe everything with twrp and still couldnt liberate space, how can i do it?
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How do i liberate that space? i tried wipe everything with twrp and still couldnt liberate space, how can i do it?
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(To oversimplify it) Of that 8gb, X amount is reserved for the android OS and cache, Y amount is reserved for apps and such with 4.7gb being the usable remainder. There isn't a massive amount you can do to change that really, custom ROMs can free up some but not huge amounts.
On top of that j3 emulates it's internal sd from the leftover space in data. So if your not wiping that you could be missing out
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(To oversimplify it) Of that 8gb, X amount is reserved for the android OS and cache, Y amount is reserved for apps and such with 4.7gb being the usable remainder. There isn't a massive amount you can do to change that really, custom ROMs can free up some but not huge amounts.
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I've found LOS seriously affected space for me
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I've found LOS seriously affected space for me
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Really? Since using my M-SD card as internal I've had zero issues with storage. I have 4/5 space hogging games installed alongside a gig or two of smaller ones, 4/5 GB of music and books and whatever hadn't copied to One Drive lately sat on the phone with a 16gb card and I still don't see any sluggishness yet.
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Really? Since using my M-SD card as internal I've had zero issues with storage. I have 4/5 space hogging games installed alongside a gig or two of smaller ones, 4/5 GB of music and books and whatever hadn't copied to One Drive lately sat on the phone with a 16gb card and I still don't see any sluggishness yet.
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Mine is really slow so I can't use it as internal for now.. but I have 3 huge games on the rom whereas with tw I couldn't put more than 1 big app even Snapchat have me issues. I've found I haven't needed to change it to internal haha
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Mine is really slow so I can't use it as internal for now.. but I have 3 huge games on the rom whereas with tw I couldn't put more than 1 big app even Snapchat have me issues. I've found I haven't needed to change it to internal haha
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If you're UK based go to Wilkos, you can pick up a 16gb class 10 for about £8.
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If you're UK based go to Wilkos, you can pick up a 16gb class 10 for about £8.
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Africa?????