GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
If you need/use apps, that need root, yes you should ^^ if not, IMHO you don't need to, for me and my use (gaming, chatting, browsing, celebrating, xdaing) stock is very comfortable and nice.
It really depends on how you want to use it ^^ test stock for a few days and decide after testing
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I didn't due to not having my laptop at time of purchase. While all is well and I don't need root for anything I have been thinking about rooting just because its a nexus and knowing I haven't modded it in the least is starting to semi bother me. However now I only have 8GB free on a 32GB version and really don't want to lose all my data. So I'd recommend it so you don't regret not doing it down the road.
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I didn't due to not having my laptop at time of purchase. While all is well and I don't need root for anything I have been thinking about rooting just because its a nexus and knowing I havuse en't modded it in the least is starting to semi bother me. However now I only have 8GB free on a 32GB version and really don't want to lose all my data. So I'd recommend it so you don't regret not doing it down the road.
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I don't think rooting will wipe SD. It will wipe os. I just went to install button savior and saw it needed too so I'm pretty much decided. I turned on backup through google so hopefully when i root i can just use Google to restore my data for me and just use apex to restore may desktop
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GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
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I would at least unlock the bootloader since it will wipe your tab completely. Then later on if you want to root you won't need to unlock it.
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I got mine for christmas too. Rooted it on the same evening and it's a total different experience. Try flashing Paranoid Android and use Action Launcher. It's the ultimate tablet experience for me because both ROM and Launcher use the 7" display the best.
I root because I know I'm going to need root apps even if I don't feel like using a custom ROM.
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I really think there is no reason to root. Stock on the n7 is flawless IMO. I rooted mine just to familiarize myself with the manual process but I have no intention of changing anything. I even got rid of custom recovery and re locked my bootloader.
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I would root for the access
tevil said:
GF bought me a N7 for xmas (love abbreviations) and it was to upgrade from a kindle fire from previous.
I of course rooted the KF in about 5 minutes and its been running full android since first boot but with my N7 I almost feel I dont have to root for some reason. My NS phone is of course rooted but after setting up the N7 its almost so functional after that it seems to much work since rooting will wipe the device.
Anyway if you guys were in my position would you root or no?
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Always ROOT.
I would root my electric toothbrush if I could.
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I don't think rooting will wipe SD. It will wipe os. I just went to install button savior and saw it needed too so I'm pretty much decided. I turned on backup through google so hopefully when i root i can just use Google to restore my data for me and just use apex to restore may desktop
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Your right, I just mean in my case since I didn't unlock bootloader or anything in order to obtain root I would lose all my data. But actually just the rooting part shouldn't wipe anything.
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I root every phone I have for tether. I am not sure why I would want to root the Nexus other than because we can.
Because it will allow for a lot more mods and flexibility.
Tablet UI? Needs root.
Adaway app from the market for ad blocking? Needs root.
Various sound mods? Needs root.
You get the point
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I root every phone I have for tether. I am not sure why I would want to root the Nexus other than because we can.
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You only root for tethering...?
Seems a bit shallow, no offense.
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You only root for tethering...?
Seems a bit shallow, no offense.
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How would that be shallow? I don't need or desire to do anything else. After flashing my 1000 rom, I grew tired of resetting my phone. So now I use it as a phone.
Back to the thread. Good points DarkRyoushii, thank you.
I rooted so I could import my data from my last tablet. I am also waiting to get a usb otg adapter to mount external usb, which also requires root. But it also gives the ability to do a little more.
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I rooted so I could import my data from my last tablet. I am also waiting to get a usb otg adapter to mount external usb, which also requires root. But it also gives the ability to do a little more.
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Was wondering about rooting as well, thanks everyone.
to me unlocking the bootloader is probably more important as you can install clockwork recovery and then are enable to flash ROMs and other things. Having said that rooting does have its advantages -
gives you more flexibility to run rooted only apps like Titanium Backup, enables you to change density of your screen so you can get tablet mode, lets you install a terminal program and send commands directly to the system
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Was wondering about rooting as well, thanks everyone.
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I need root to use Openvpn to be connected on my USA VPS server to have access to all the USA Google stuff, Netflix and hulu from Canada.
Currently setting a London Openvpn access for IPlayer too!
To me being rooted is almost a necessity to enjoy this device fully.
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I rooted so I could import my data from my last tablet. I am also waiting to get a usb otg adapter to mount external usb, which also requires root. But it also gives the ability to do a little more.
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I'm like the OP. My HTC EVO LTE is rooted, but I'm deciding whether to root my 7. I like the UI just as it is. I can always reinstall apps.
However, I am curious about getting an usb otg adapter to mount external usb. As I understand, I can already use a usb keyboard or mouse.
Is rooting and gaining access as an external usb drive the only way to transfer files between my PC and the 7? I mean other than Dropbox, etc.
I seem to remember there's an app to let you wirelessly transfer, but I can't remember if it requires root.
I'm rooting In order to use USB storage.
Same here, the only reason I want root is to connect a OTG cable for extra storage.
I don't mean to be naive or anything (been rooted since opening my N7) but isn't the device set up for USB OTG out of the box?
There's a setting in Settings > Developer Options for allowing apps to access USB storage..... So is rooting reply required for that feature?
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i rooted for the extra tweaks and mods that cm10 and or aokp will bring to my nexus 7.
Waiting for rob43's Salad Bar II to come and replace the highly questionable nav bar we have currently.
Titanium backup is a must have.
Other than that, yeah.
Like other's I have flash phones (that just doesn't sound right) but have not had a Nexus product before.
What's the risk of rooting this quickly. Any concern that G will release a feature that rooted N7 will not be able to use?
I rooted Nexus 7 to restore app data from Galaxy Nexus using titanium backup, run stickmount for external usb file transfer, and of course custom roms.
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I rooted because it only took 20 minutes... and for GameCIH, plus when I decide on a ROM i'll be able to flash it. It's a nexus, root it! XD
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I root every phone I have for tether. I am not sure why I would want to root the Nexus other than because we can.
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Just like everyone saying in here, it becomes beneficial to root when you want to install certain apps like for me autokiller (kills apps not being used and can make kernel tweaks). Its just a nice thing to have done. Usually when there are new updates, you find it first on message boards like these, and being able to flash the updates when they first become available makes you very pleased with the decision of doing it.
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Why not root?
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If you have to ask why you should root, then you don't have any need for it.
I root for many things.
Adaway is the main reason. I can't stand ads popping up everywhere.
OTG storage of course (stickmount)
Over and under clocking. Voltage tweaks, sd tweaks, etc.
Changing my DNS to stock.
Hey guys, long time rooted/android user here, I am about to get my Nexus 7 on Monday, and I just had a couple of questions. First, since there is no external storage, when you wipe the device to flash different ROMS, does it wipe EVERYTHING? Like, say I have 250mb's of downloaded data for a game...idk say, Dungeon Defenders, I know that when you typically wipe a device, it wipes everything, but will it still wipe that data? Basically, what I am trying to say is, after each wipe/install, will I have to redownload all of that extra data from the game again? That seems like a super big pain in the ass. Hopefully that isn't the case because I don't want to spend 3 hours redownloading data for games after each new flash lol
No. When you unlock for the first time, it cleans out everything... so do that asap before getting cozy.
CWM is designed to leave your storage folder alone. So wiping and flashing won't touch anything saved.
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No. When you unlock for the first time, it cleans out everything... so do that asap before getting cozy.
CWM is designed to leave your storage folder alone. So wiping and flashing won't touch anything saved.
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. The first thing I do when I get a new android device is root it haha. I have heard that you shouldn't use the toolkit with the device though, is that true?
No, at leat in cwm, it wipes everything not in the sdcard partition, so if you keep any nandroids, or app data in that partition, you'll be fine
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. The first thing I do when I get a new android device is root it haha. I have heard that you shouldn't use the toolkit with the device though, is that true?
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The toolkits work fine most of the time. Its just always good to learn how to do things through commands in case the toolkits, or anything regarding your nexus has an issue
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The toolkits work fine most of the time. Its just always good to learn how to do things through commands in case the toolkits, or anything regarding your nexus has an issue
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Yeah I understand. I know my way around ADB so honestly for me, it is whatever way is fastest and gives me the least heartburn. I have heard that users start to have issues after the first day with the device, so I will hold off for a day before I root it, just to be sure
firstly, i know that when i root my nexus 7 it will be like a factory restore/wipe.
when that happens any personal stuff like pictures disappears. will i lose the transformers film and books that came with it in the library or will it pick that back up when i sign back in to play store? i downloaded the transformers film for more stable playback rather than streaming, i guess i will have to re-download it wont i?
will rooting it cause the device to not receive any future updates over the air?
lastly, any recommendations for the best, 1-click, method as i have found a few when i googled it so not sure which is the best and/or easiest method.
thanks guys, marc
Post in Q&A if you want a reasonable response.
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Hi mate,
I rooted within half an hour of having my nexus, and have been able to download the film again and all of the books that came with it.
To the rooting question. Yes, you can do over the air updates, however they will cause you to loose root. Your could simply use the program in the link below again to root. Or you could download OTA root keeper from the Play Store. This disables root and then you can enable it after the update has finished.
edit: I almost forgot, if you delete any files from the system part, you will not likely be able to use OTA to update. It needs all of the original files to proceed.
This is the program that I used below. It is very simple to use and walks you through every step. It also has a ton of options. I'd recommend using this one. I know its a big program, but it's worth it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
thanks mate, i will take a look
No worries, just glad I could help
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I've tried searching but I guess my queries haven't been good ones. So, a quick noob question...
One of my favorite features of the Nexus 7 is browsing the Play store on my laptop and being able to just click install from there and the app 'magically' appearing on my tablet. If I root, will that ability go away?
I don't even have my n7 yet, and you helped me!
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techlifeweb said:
One of my favorite features of the Nexus 7 is browsing the Play store on my laptop and being able to just click install from there and the app 'magically' appearing on my tablet. If I root, will that ability go away?
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Nope. The magic still works the same way.
I'm also thinking about rooting my Nexus 7 Once I get it. I ordered it on Saturday and I'm still waiting
Why wouldn't you root it?
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I rooted mine after unpacking it, wouldn't have it any other way now.
Everything you purchase (or google gives you, which is seen as a purchase) will stay purchased foreveryoi just download it again.
Feel free to PM me if you have any questions from someone who lives and breathes nexus 7s.
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Hi all, must have been asked but not sure what to search for so can't find it.
I've been using completely stock up until now and will be rooting once I get my new PC through. So I have all the apps, accounts, settings, layouts etc as I want. Can I backup any of this and restore it properly onto a custom rom?. Most likely will be Paranoid.
Thanks.
You can try to use my backup pro since you're not yet rooted. As far as I know, you can use it without rooting. Probably wit limited functionality. But definitely you cannot get away from restoring some of your settings manually. There's simply no seamless way right now.
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You can try to use my backup pro since you're not yet rooted. As far as I know, you can use it without rooting. Probably wit limited functionality. But definitely you cannot get away from restoring some of your settings manually. There's simply no seamless way right now.
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Thanks for reply, shame, really surprised there isn't, I've rooted now, will do a backup with that for the sake of trying.
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Hi Folks,
My first post on N4 section.
Ive just upgraded from a HTC Sensation that I've been running for two years, mostly using CM9 & CM10 on it, so Im well aware of all the benefits to root.
Even been lucky enough to have some of the excellent Devs cooking in this section over at Sensation workbench too, like Showp's kernel with Sweep2wake.
So far, my Nexus has not been rooted, and although I miss custom Rom-ing, im very excited to say that not rooting means that some apps like SkyGo and Barclays Mobile banking & Barclays PingIt are working very nicely for me indeed, something that never happened on my Sensation.
Since my go-to rom on Sensation was AOSP anyway, Im pleased with my stock Android for now, and it just seems that some of the apps I can use now are pushing me into the non-root territory.... for now.
Anyone with any thoughts on my current predicament?
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Agreed, I rooted my xperia, HTC evo and HP touchpad just to run AOSP. My nexus is staying stock for a long time, like you its very convenient to use the Barclays apps, only thing that might tempt me to root is to block ads....
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I was in your boat with my HTC vivid. That thing had to be rooted to make it actually useful. But with the N4, I have no need to root. Ironic, don't you think? We finally get the phone that screams to mod it with how easy it is to root and yet we don't...
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While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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I have taken a look at the nexus 4 toolkit by mskip and you backup apps and data before unlocking then restore.... So I don't think it really matters.
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stankyou said:
I don't see anything wrong with it although you are going to lose data the moment you decide to root. Unlocking the bootloader would wipe data off your phone if I remember correctly. (Nexus noob as I came from Desire.)
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Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Hmm I didn't lose data when I rooted..
Also without root you can't make the most of your battery with under clicking, screen off profiles, cpu sleeper, etc.
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As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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I'm in the same place as you. One of my main reasons for using custom ROMs was because I loved the look of AOSP. Now I have AOSP, I'm less tempted to flash anything or root, because everything works and looks good.
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As soon as I unlock the bootloader, my data is wiped. Maybe you used toolkits and such like what the other guy said and had that option to save stuff. As for me I prefer command lines as much as possible.
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Guide stickied in this forum has a how-to on ADB Backups.
Perform the backup as outlined and unlock...
Restore as outlined and it's as though nothing ever happened...all data restored.
Well, had the Evo V before this and I rooted/modded it to look/run like this phone runs out of the box so I don't plan on rooting at all.
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While I respect all of your decisions to hold off on rooting, I will recommend that even if you don't root, unlock your boot loader ASAP because as mentioned above, your data IS wiped when you do so and it is necessary to do so if you ever decide to root in the future.
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Will unlocking Bootloader mean apps that don't work on Root phones stop functioning?
No unlocked DOES NOT equal root
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