Gmail stuck in outbox - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an N7 3g. I'm using MoDaCa's JR-4. Outgoing emails continually get stuck in the outbox and don't go out. I think it has something to do with N7. I have never had this problem with other android cell phones, PC, etc.
Is there a solution?
Thanks

I have had this problems on phones before, but not yet on the N7 *knocks on wood.
First I would check your sync settings to make sure all is appropriate.
The way I was able to remedy the situation was to either uninstall gmail, and reinstall, or just uninstall the latest update. I haven't had that fail me yet. You could also try clearing data, cache, and force stop the app from settings first.
(may require reboot after)
Good luck!

i had this issue in Gmail today on the N7 running a CM 10.1 nightly. i used to see this a lot as well on Gingerbread, and uninstalling the app/clearing data in the app does work but makes you lose the draft you had written(which sucks if it was a long one!). i used to solve it by clicking reply and creating a dummy message in the same thread, saving that message as a draft, then going into my drafts folder and the message that got stuck would have an option to send... or something like that, and that worked. however, i couldn't seem to get it to work today, on Gmail 4.1.2 fortunately my stuck message today was small, so i just cleared data in the app and rewrote it, and it did send then.

You could also just highlight the whole draft and copy, then paste when done. It should be copied to your clip board and not the gmail app. I suppose it is always safer to save it somewhere before deleting, though I would think if you were going to do that, you would want to save the copy in a different app like ever note.

TheAtheistReverend said:
You could also just highlight the whole draft and copy, then paste when done. It should be copied to your clip board and not the gmail app. I suppose it is always safer to save it somewhere before deleting, though I would think if you were going to do that, you would want to save the copy in a different app like ever note.
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I'll try that here on Jelly Bean next time, but that actually wasn't possible before. When the message got stuck sending, it was in a limbo state where the text of the message wasn't accessible to be copied! I definitely tried that because i lost some pretty long drafts!

TheAtheistReverend said:
I have had this problems on phones before, but not yet on the N7 *knocks on wood.
First I would check your sync settings to make sure all is appropriate.
The way I was able to remedy the situation was to either uninstall gmail, and reinstall, or just uninstall the latest update. I haven't had that fail me yet. You could also try clearing data, cache, and force stop the app from settings first.
(may require reboot after)
Good luck!
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I have rolled back gmail to the earlier version several times but it keeps updating behind my back and emails become stuck in the outbox again.

TheAtheistReverend said:
I have had this problems on phones before, but not yet on the N7 *knocks on wood.
First I would check your sync settings to make sure all is appropriate.
The way I was able to remedy the situation was to either uninstall gmail, and reinstall, or just uninstall the latest update. I haven't had that fail me yet. You could also try clearing data, cache, and force stop the app from settings first.
(may require reboot after)
Good luck!
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I have rolled back gmail to the earlier version several times but it keeps updating behind my back and emails become stuck in the outbox again. Also, although I'm currently using JR-4, I have CM-10, PA, and stock rooted ROMS nandroided. I could restore any of them and test, but I'm pretty certain it's ubiquitous. It's either the gmail app or android 4.21.
Also, I have a Galaxy Note 2. 2 versions of gmail are installed: 1.0 and 4.21, and emails don't get stuck. N7 only has has 4.21 installed. Why doesn't N7 also have 1.0 installed?
Also, I just cleared cache and data and the email is resynching. I'm certain that the problem will return. I love the N7, but this is really annoying.

jhford said:
I have rolled back gmail to the earlier version several times but it keeps updating behind my back and emails become stuck in the outbox again. Also, although I'm currently using JR-4, I have CM-10, PA, and stock rooted ROMS nandroided. I could restore any of them and test, but I'm pretty certain it's ubiquitous. It's either the gmail app or android 4.21.
Also, I have a Galaxy Note 2. 2 versions of gmail are installed: 1.0 and 4.21, and emails don't get stuck. N7 only has has 4.21 installed. Why doesn't N7 also have 1.0 installed?
Also, I just cleared cache and data and the email is resynching. I'm certain that the problem will return. I love the N7, but this is really annoying.
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Is there a particular version of Gmail that works better? If so, have you gone into your market settings and disabled automatic updating? I've been running the 4.1.2 version for a long time now, and it never updates to 4.2. I also disabled update notifications so it doesn't bug me at all.
But yeah, it's an annoying issue. Sometimes i turn to K9 Mail, as it works great for Gmail accounts. Plus i love the dark theme option. In the end i like the way native Gmail synchs tho.

yogi2010 said:
Is there a particular version of Gmail that works better? If so, have you gone into your market settings and disabled automatic updating? I've been running the 4.1.2 version for a long time now, and it never updates to 4.2. I also disabled update notifications so it doesn't bug me at all.
But yeah, it's an annoying issue. Sometimes i turn to K9 Mail, as it works great for Gmail accounts. Plus i love the dark theme option. In the end i like the way native Gmail synchs tho.
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Thanks for your help. How can I downgrade from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2? I think that will work until Google addresses this issue. The Disable link inside "App Info" used to show this downgrade capability. However, that text was probably there when I was using a different Rom. I have MoDaCa JR-4 running now and I think I want to keep it.

I think if you flashed a ROM that came with 4.2, you won't have the option to uninstall updates. In any case, i posted 4.1.2 in the 3rd to last post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005006. You can just uninstall 4.2 and install 4.1.2 if you wish. I will warn you tho, I did have the stuck sending issue yesterday, but I think that was the first time.

yogi2010 said:
I think if you flashed a ROM that came with 4.2, you won't have the option to uninstall updates. In any case, i posted 4.1.2 in the 3rd to last post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005006. You can just uninstall 4.2 and install 4.1.2 if you wish. I will warn you tho, I did have the stuck sending issue yesterday, but I think that was the first time.
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I already had the apk. The problem is that I can't find a way to uninstall 4.2.1. Any ideas?

jhford said:
I already had the apk. The problem is that I can't find a way to uninstall 4.2.1. Any ideas?
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Oh sorry, if it is a /system app in the ROM, then you'll need to use Titanium Backup or a file explorer app. The free version of Titanium will do the job.

yogi2010 said:
Oh sorry, if it is a /system app in the ROM, then you'll need to use Titanium Backup or a file explorer app. The free version of Titanium will do the job.
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I just use file explorer to delete it from /system/app, then install the 4.1.2 apk and turn off automatic updating in Play Store?

jhford said:
I just use file explorer to delete it from /system/app, then install the 4.1.2 apk and turn off automatic updating in Play Store?
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Yep, you might even want to disable automatic updating first, haha. And If I remember correctly, the apk installs just by tapping install, no need to paste it into /sysyem/app, I don't think...

yogi2010 said:
Yep, you might even want to disable automatic updating first, haha. And If I remember correctly, the apk installs just by tapping install, no need to paste it into /sysyem/app, I don't think...
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Thanks for all your help. It's all setup. How long do you it will before Google fixes this problem and I can go back to automatic updating?

jhford said:
Thanks for all your help. It's all setup. How long do you it will before Google fixes this problem and I can go back to automatic updating?
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no idea on that one. honestly i've had that issue from time to time on every version of Gmail on every Android version i believe. that was part of the reason i used K9 Mail for such a long time.

yogi2010 said:
no idea on that one. honestly i've had that issue from time to time on every version of Gmail on every Android version i believe. that was part of the reason i used K9 Mail for such a long time.
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Bad news 4.1.2 emails are now stuck in outbox.

This happens because Google wants to take over your e-mail service; in other words you must be using your Android or smartphone's e-mail app instead of Google's GMAIL App. There are two fixes to this problem, first is to download Goggle's GMAIL App and use that for email communication; and second is to ask google to allow 'less secure' apps i.e. non-google to access your e-mails (i know!) Here are the steps for the second option:
Allowing less secure apps to access your account
Google may block sign-in attempts from some apps or devices that do not use modern security standards. Since these apps and devices are easier to break into, blocking them helps keep your account safe.
Some examples of apps that do not support the latest security standards include:
The Mail app on your iPhone or iPad with iOS 6 or below
The Mail app on your Windows phone preceding the 8.1 release
Some Desktop mail clients like Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird
Change account access for less secure apps
To help keep Google Apps users' accounts secure, we may block less secure apps from accessing Google Apps accounts. As a Google Apps user, you will see a "Password incorrect" error when trying to sign in. If this is the case, you have two options:
Option 1: Upgrade to a more secure app that uses the most up to date security measures. All Google products, like Gmail, use the latest security measures.
Option 2: Change your settings to allow less secure apps to access your account. We don't recommend this option because it might make it easier for someone to break into your account. If you want to allow access anyway, follow these steps:
Go to the "Less secure apps" section in My Account.
Next to "Access for less secure apps," select Turn on. (Note to Google Apps users: This setting is hidden if your administrator has locked less secure app account access.)
If you still can't sign in to your account, the "password incorrect" error might be caused by a different reason.

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G-mail Sync B0rked

Hi All,
I'm running CyanogenMod 4.11.1.1 (but have been having this problem since 4.0.4). My G-mail sync is semi-b0rked. It never updates anymore, even if I manually select the "refresh" option it doesn't update. The only thing that works is, if I go in to Gmail's settings, select "labels" and modify the # of days to sync for, it will magically update. So, I've been manually toggling it between 3 and 4 days of sync time just to get it to update whenever I'm expecting a new e-mail, but it's quite annoying that it stopped working on its own.
My guess is that some library or system file related to gmail got nuked during the cyanogen upgrade, but I've upgraded to several other versions (and even tried restoring a nanroid backup) but gmail still isn't syncing.
Yes, I've double-checked all the settings and everything's set to sync properly (I'd never disabled it in the first place, either).
Any hints on what I can do (I've tried wiping) to get this to work again would be greatly appreciated.
Go in to Settings>Apps>Manage Apps, find GMail and GMail storage and tap the clear data and clear cache buttons for both. Reboot.
jashsu said:
Go in to Settings>Apps>Manage Apps, find GMail and GMail storage and tap the clear data and clear cache buttons for both. Reboot.
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Cheers mate, that did it!
I'm actually having the same exact issue. Manual syncing works fine but the phone refuses to sync automatically. The only piece of advice I've found is clearing the cache for Gmail and Gmail Storage. I've done this and it has no effect. I'm running Cyanogen 4.04 stable. It's driving me nuts and makes this phone pretty much useless for me since I rely on it to receive dispatch e-mails. Any other thoughts? I'm ready to just say f it and go back to a stock ROM.
Wrrryyy said:
I'm actually having the same exact issue. Manual syncing works fine but the phone refuses to sync automatically. The only piece of advice I've found is clearing the cache for Gmail and Gmail Storage. I've done this and it has no effect. I'm running Cyanogen 4.04 stable. It's driving me nuts and makes this phone pretty much useless for me since I rely on it to receive dispatch e-mails. Any other thoughts? I'm ready to just say f it and go back to a stock ROM.
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Are you clearing both data and cache? That has always fixed this issue for me - and I've had it on even stock ROMs.
Wrrryyy said:
The only piece of advice I've found is clearing the cache for Gmail and Gmail Storage.
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Did you clear both the data and the cache or just the cache?
Weaseal said:
Hi All,
I'm running CyanogenMod 4.11.1.1 (but have been having this problem since 4.0.4). My G-mail sync is semi-b0rked. It never updates anymore, even if I manually select the "refresh" option it doesn't update. The only thing that works is, if I go in to Gmail's settings, select "labels" and modify the # of days to sync for, it will magically update. So, I've been manually toggling it between 3 and 4 days of sync time just to get it to update whenever I'm expecting a new e-mail, but it's quite annoying that it stopped working on its own.
My guess is that some library or system file related to gmail got nuked during the cyanogen upgrade, but I've upgraded to several other versions (and even tried restoring a nanroid backup) but gmail still isn't syncing.
Yes, I've double-checked all the settings and everything's set to sync properly (I'd never disabled it in the first place, either).
Any hints on what I can do (I've tried wiping) to get this to work again would be greatly appreciated.
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go to your settings>sd card> at the bottom hit the reset button..it says it deletes your info but it hasnt not once .. it just clears everything.. try it
Yer mine comes and goes, tried a few Hero's, stock cupcake/donut ROM, cyanogen 4.0.4 thru to 4.1.11.1
Works for a few hours, stop working. Found gTalk works fine, but the Market will only work if gmail is syncing properly. usually will work every 2 days or so, for 4~20 hours... really really strange.

Google "Backup My Settings" option

I am running CM5b4 and have noticed that the backup option even though enabled does not backup any of my settings or apps after a wipe. Is this feature disabled in custom roms? Is there something I'm missing that does not allow a proper sync? Picasa, gmail, calender, etc...all sync properly. Thanks in advance XDA!
pmadej15 said:
I am running CM5b4 and have noticed that the backup option even though enabled does not backup any of my settings or apps after a wipe. Is this feature disabled in custom roms? Is there something I'm missing that does not allow a proper sync? Picasa, gmail, calender, etc...all sync properly. Thanks in advance XDA!
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It doesn't actually back up your apps...just the record of what apps you had. It does backup your bookmarks and settings to the cloud, however. Upon booting after a wipe, it should automatically sync your settings, bookmarks, and download your apps from the Market if you have a data connection.
Thanks. The market list did show up with both free/paid apps but after a few minutes only the paid apps remained and non downloaded automatically. As to settings and bookmarks they never reappeared. I had a 3g connection the whole time. Would flashing the stock rom before cm5b4 or possibly formatting the SD card be a possible fix for my issue or would it not matter since its only supposed to sync with Google's servers? Any suggestions are welcome.
You're gonna have to wait for someone else to answer that... I'm unrooted.
I'm on cyanogenMod 5.0 b4. I can check. I don't know where that "backup my settings" thing is, though. Where can I find that?
It's located under Settings>Privacy>Bacup Up My Settings...I found that when I flashed back to the shipping rom (stock) ER79 the feature worked fine, but when flashing to cm5b4 it stopped working again.
perhaps you can check:
settings --> Privacy
took me long enough time to figure that out
pmadej15 said:
Thanks. The market list did show up with both free/paid apps but after a few minutes only the paid apps remained and non downloaded automatically. As to settings and bookmarks they never reappeared. I had a 3g connection the whole time. Would flashing the stock rom before cm5b4 or possibly formatting the SD card be a possible fix for my issue or would it not matter since its only supposed to sync with Google's servers? Any suggestions are welcome.
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Yes. You flashed back to stock, and I assume you didn't load any apps, so Google's last record of your system was one without any apps, hence they're off the list.
I really hope someone can tell me how to get that option back, it's not in the MidNIGHT ROM. (I'm on an Epic)
I know its an old thread but I didn't want to open a new one.
Is there a website I can visit to see what's backed up for which devices under my accounts. I have 4 android devices, I'm curious whats up all in there, as seemingly this process does work, but sometimes not 100%
nexgenasian said:
Is there a website I can visit to see what's backed up for which devices under my accounts. I have 4 android devices, I'm curious whats up all in there, as seemingly this process does work, but sometimes not 100%
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www.google.com/dashboard
that is the most extensive look at your data that I know of. the only thing it shows with regard to Android is your IMEI number for your devices. maybe poke around and see if you can find more stuff.

[Q] account(s) lost

I've been having a problem with losing my accounts. CM7, emmc, today's nightly, but it's been happening for a couple of weeks.
The most visible symptom is that the WiFi indicator goes white. WiFi itself is working just fine, but I can't access my Google account for Contacts or Market. I use K-9 with gmail, and that still works (different protocol and authentication method).
Has anybody else been seeing this? If so, what do you do about it?
Contacts shows my non-Google contacts, Market (new version, which might be significant, see below) tells me that I have to sign in first, but silently closes when I tap on the button to do so.
Settings/Accounts shows me some random subset of my other accounts (Facebook, LinkedIn), and when I try to add an account from there, it doesn't present me with the option of adding a Google account, just Corporate (Exchange), and whichever of Facebook or LinkedIn are still present.
The solution that works best so far is to re-install gapps and go through the sign-in procedure again. The WiFi indicator goes green and all is well. I tried removing /data/system/accounts.db and rebooting (a hint from a possibly-irrelevant thread), but that didn't really fix the problem.
The really weird thing is that I installed the new Market a week or so ago, but reflashing gapps doesn't blow it away, even though the gapps .zip (20110613) contains a smaller Vending.apk than the new Market zip does. I tried to uninstall Market (!) so the next time I reflash gapps I'd get the old one back, and it was willing to uninstall Market's "updates", which appears to have reverted Market to the gapps zip version, after one FC, without requiring a reboot.
Unfortunately, I can't remember whether this was happening before I installed the new Market. I should keep a log...
Thanks for any help you can render!
Could that be behind proxy causing those problems?
votinh said:
Could that be behind proxy causing those problems?
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I don't think so; there's certainly no explicit proxying going on here. Our corporate firewalls can be interesting, but I'm connected to an unsecured access point for use by visitors. Also, it's not a solid failure; things work fine until they don't.
It doesn't really act like a network problem; if a corporate firewall can remove my Google account from Settings/Accounts, we have serious security issues.
BTW, jazzbass12 has reported what looks like the same problem in this post. The solutions proposed there don't seem to work for me.
I don't recall not able access gmail or not but when I'm at work and using unsecured access point for visitor (just like your company), I cannot download or install any app successfully, they all queue up and do nothing until I go home and using my home network. Wifi indicator shows white vs green? Is that it?
votinh said:
I don't recall not able access gmail or not but when I'm at work and using unsecured access point for visitor (just like your company), I cannot download or install any app successfully, they all queue up and do nothing until I go home and using my home network. Wifi indicator shows white vs green? Is that it?
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Right, I get a white indicator but (new) Market stuff doesn't queue up, it tells me to log in, but fails when I let it try. I think that this hasn't happened with the old Market, but I can't prove that yet. Which Market app are you running?
My other clues are that Settings/Accounts doesn't show Google or let me add one, and the Google Contacts are missing; the rest of the contacts are there.
Still using the old Market, haven't updated yet.

Google account needed when no SIM?

I managed to get two s5's rooted and annoyingly enough, unless I put my sims card in them, neither gmail or the playstore will connect or login via wifi. I only have one sims activated and that is my internet connection which I tether via wifi to my other devices.
Is there a way to work around this? If this is too remedial a question or unwelcome in this thread, I apologize.
I'd like to be able to set up a freshly flashed and rooted phone to accept my gmail account and work with playstore on wifi, sans a sims installed. Do I need to create a gmail account for each and every phone I wish to set up? Will this fix the problem of doing a phone not having a active verizon sims installed? For whatever reason, my playstore access and gmail push are wonky and dubious at best when having the same account being "registered" on multiple devices and I'm not sure if it started recently when gmail for some reason started sending notices to said email account of when another device logged in.
DroidinAndStuff said:
I managed to get two s5's rooted and annoyingly enough, unless I put my sims card in them, neither gmail or the playstore will connect or login via wifi. I only have one sims activated and that is my internet connection which I tether via wifi to my other devices.
Is there a way to work around this? If this is too remedial a question or unwelcome in this thread, I apologize.
I'd like to be able to set up a freshly flashed and rooted phone to accept my gmail account and work with playstore on wifi, sans a sims installed. Do I need to create a gmail account for each and every phone I wish to set up? Will this fix the problem of doing a phone not having a active verizon sims installed? For whatever reason, my playstore access and gmail push are wonky and dubious at best when having the same account being "registered" on multiple devices and I'm not sure if it started recently when gmail for some reason started sending notices to said email account of when another device logged in.
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I too manage two S5's, rooted and I have no problems. The one without a Sim works great off of WiFi. Playstore works fine logged into the same account.
Tulsadiver said:
I too manage two S5's, rooted and I have no problems. The one without a Sim works great off of WiFi. Playstore works fine logged into the same account.
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That's perversely encouraging and assures me I haven't lost my mind expecting something impossible that I thought I knew to be true. Neither of my S5's, my N4 or Z2 will reliably hook up with gmail and the play store both. This one S5 will not allow me set up a new gmail account on the device and gmail has stopped pushing to my DD S4. Remove account, clear cache, date force stop all google processes, reboot and same. Lots posted about it and I know google hasn't banned me as it is working on some devices. Besides, I behave.
Now if I can get supersu to install from an APK with a wifi connection, I can at least proceed.
Congrats on yours and thanks for confirming it should work.
Well I popped the sims card in the one, which had been flashed back to ngc from oa8 (my other one hadn't ever tried to OTA update from nk2) and playstore and gmail cooperated fine. However, SDM started downloading an update, which I'll assume is OTA to OA8 or OC4. The first time before I pulled the battery I got playstore hooked up and forced SDM to stop. Pulled the battery and SDM continued where it left off and I managed supersu and busybox. Deferred the install of the update and wonder how critical it is that the downloaded file be removed prior to safestrapping it and then OC4 rooting it with the tether addon.
The other S5 on nk2 hasn't tried to OTA update so it must be down on the list despite being readily activate-able with clean IMEI and no issues.
I wish I could figure out why google services such as gmail and playstore are being contumacious on my devices.
I had that same problem of an update trying to get on my phone before I could get it rooted ( an s4) and it messed my phone up bad. I had to finally take the update to get it working again
I would put all the files, towelroot, busybox, SuperSU, safestrap, and titanium backup on my ext SD card. Flash back to stock NGC. Don't use your Sim or log onto WiFi. Root your phone and freeze SDM.
Tulsadiver said:
I had that same problem of an update trying to get on my phone before I could get it rooted ( an s4) and it messed my phone up bad. I had to finally take the update to get it working again
I would put all the files, towelroot, busybox, SuperSU, safestrap, and titanium backup on my ext SD card. Flash back to stock NGC. Don't use your Sim or log onto WiFi. Root your phone and freeze SDM.
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It never attempted the OTA until the active sim card was in place. I used it on wifi many times including several times today and had even worked fine with the playstore/gmail on wifi up until recently when gmail stopped pushing to my dd period, and every other device in which my DD's sims card wasn't inserted.
The OTA update file has been downloaded, but not installed. I deferred it to 5 am and didn't check automatic. I am assuming I can defer it again although I'd somehow feel better removing it and freezing SDM until I decide if I am going to OC4 it or do a custom rom. Nice would be native call recording, native tethering and being able to overclock it a bit. A lightweight lollipop and xposed would probably do the trick other than maybe overclocking. Too much reading for one day.
It is currently on NCG, rooted, supersu, busy box, and safestrap all installed. I think I'll install a root file explorer try to find it and also do Titanium Backup while I'm at it. I wish I knew where it was and if removing it was as simple as just deleting a file.
Any ideas? I have two in the same state and think I'm going to make one of them my DD since getting root on a verizon N4 doesn't look likely anytime soon. The N4 is kinda big anyhow. I have to have tethering and would like it easier than foxfi since I feel obligated to use as much of my unlimited data as possible. I think I read the native call recording can be enable from the dialer at the cost of the "add call" which I don't use or even know what it is.
DroidinAndStuff said:
It never attempted the OTA until the active sim card was in place. I used it on wifi many times including several times today and had even worked fine with the playstore/gmail on wifi.
The OTA update file has been downloaded, but not installed. I deferred it to 5 am and didn't check automatic. I am assuming I can defer it again although I'd somehow feel better removing it and freezing SDM until I decide if I am going to OC4 it or do a custom rom. Nice would be native call recording, native tethering and being able to overclock it a bit. A lightweight lollipop and xposed would probably do the trick other than maybe overclocking. Too much reading for one day.
It is currently on NCG, rooted, supersu, busy box, and safestrap all installed. I think I'll install a root file explorer try to find it and also do Titanium Backup while I'm at it. I wish I knew where it was and if removing it was as simple as just deleting a file.
Any ideas? I have two in the same state and think I'm going to make one of them my DD since getting root on a verizon N4 doesn't look likely anytime soon. The N4 is kinda big anyhow. I have to have tethering and would like it easier than foxfi since I feel obligated to use as much of my unlimited data as possible. I think I read the native call recording can be enable from the dialer at the cost of the "add call" which I don't use or even know what it is.
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Try your root/cache folder to find your update.
Tulsadiver said:
Try your root/cache folder to find your update.
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Getting on that this morning. I wish I could figure out why it keeps downloading and installing playstore on wifi and still won't work until I put my sims in it. I've gone through everything short of uninstalling all of google services and reinstalling them on several devices. My wifi only z2 tab acting stupid with google would be a vexation if I let things like that bother me.
Thanks and I'm popping the sims in it and going to try cleaning it up and locking down SDM.
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Installed the root browser and the update zip was in cache.
Deleted.
Went to system with the display icon.
App then deleted the SDM apk and the SDM odex file.
Hopefully that will keep it from pulling that stunt again until I decide what to do with it.
Guess I should do it with the other one and figure out why that same sims won't make gmail push to my DD or the play station work in it or why my non-pc wifi only devices won't work except through their browsers. I think there must be some conflict with which devices the playstore is recognizing as being associated with my accounts.
Must be something in my google settings and what a conglomerated octopus google services has turned into.
Thanks again. Feel free to tell me if my down and dirty bandaid overlooked anything!
Good luck to you!
The only thing weird about my google account and gmail is that the email address I login with is not the one that shows up under "accounts" and the login email address is not a gmail address. Somehow the two different email accounts are linked together.
Tulsadiver said:
Good luck to you!
The only thing weird about my google account and gmail is that the email address I login with is not the one that shows up under "accounts" and the login email address is not a gmail address. Somehow the two different email accounts are linked together.
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Yeah, I wish I know what Google was up to exactly. Acknowledging the 'this device logged into your account' and verifying that it's me, seems like should seamlessly eliminate issues. That doesn't appear to be the case and I think my problems started when I somehow agreed for them to send me such notices relative to the gmail account I use on my other devices, not both gmail accounts associated with my DD.
On my DD, I have two gmail accounts that I've had for ages. They have always worked fine on my android devices. Recently that changed and I'm not sure why but I know when. On my other many devices, I've just registered one of my gmail accounts to them, the same one each time, and they too all seemed to quit working at the same time, initially offering no problems to working on wifi.
However, I am curious as to your thoughts on Ricks Rom as I looked over the specs and it seems to be about what I'm looking for although for some unqualified reason, my mind has been thinking I wanted a rom based on lollipop. It says it has native or hacked hotspot and native call recording. Can it be overclocked? I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any of the gimmicky apps that come preinstalled on the phones and find most all of them, especially the Samsung redundant ones, to be annoying and intrusive.
Do you know for sure if Xposed will or will not work with it?
How many security certificates come system installed on Ricks Rom? My guess is that something like 200 come stock and I don't like the looks of many of them and wish I knew how come and why.
Thank you, I appreciate your sharing information. It is nice to gather up pieces to puzzles and hopefully being able to solve them. I'll get this gmail playstore thing fixed if it means I have to go fishing long enough to forget about it! Maybe somebody else finding themselves in a similar situation may find some of our particular details useful to fixing these oddities.
I'm running RicksRom (v19 right now) on my DD and have been using it since I first got my phone a year and a half ago. I don't have Xposed but don't know why it wouldn't work. This is a pretty lean ROM but it does have quite a few security certificates. I'm running MOAR on my spare phone that is currently on lollipop. I have this phone as a spare to play with but wouldn't run lollipop. Too quirky and I like the theming capabilities of KitKat better.
Tulsadiver said:
I'm running RicksRom (v19 right now) on my DD and have been using it since I first got my phone a year and a half ago. I don't have Xposed but don't know why it wouldn't work. This is a pretty lean ROM but it does have quite a few security certificates. I'm running MOAR on my spare phone that is currently on lollipop. I have this phone as a spare to play with but wouldn't run lollipop. Too quirky and I like the theming capabilities of KitKat better.
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Thanks, lean sounds fine and overclocking a bit would be even nicer! I'll dig through that thread a bit more and see if anyone has verified Xposed to work with it conflict free and if it can be clocked.
I went through my gmail account settings on my PC and under Recent Activity/Notifications and Alerts... there is no way to uncheck any alerts that have been checked. I am pretty sure my issues started when I recently checked "Email" for Suspicious Attempt to Access Account. The password change email notice has been checked since forever.
Going to the Playstore on my PC, it lists all of my devices, past and present although it has dropped some that haven't accessed for a while, and now makes me think I need to give them all nicknames since I have multiples of the same Model Number devices. However, it lists all current and recent as well reconciles. What it won't do from my PC browser, is anything but sit there doing nothing when I hit install for a selected app. It will not give a pop down menu to select which device and the playstore account settings are very minimal. I will see if nicknaming them helps since there are multiple devices with the same model number. This type of online PC install used to work fine and would prompt with a pop down menu to select which device, regardless if they were online via the sims or wifi, and then download and install if the selected device was online. I don't recall ever doing that when I had multiple devices having access with the same model number.
Another interesting thing is that Verizon must have access to the playstore and/or gmail device list. I know this from speaking with a very helpful tech rep this week about my data connection speed on my DD. She verified seeing devices on this account even if they hadn't ever had my sims card installed. Merely been online with my one email account registered and playstore accessed from it. That kinda surprised me. I wonder if there is some Google Services/Verizon conflict that may be causing this.

Regretting 8.1 upgrade, seeking solutions

Since installing 8.1 Wednesday morning:
1. My Google Camera app wouldn't open; I had to replace it.
2. Gmail stopped automatically downloading my email from yahoo.
3. Samsung Gear S2 no longer vibrates when PH-1 receives SMS (it vibrates with Facebook messenger messages, though.) I uninstalled all the associated apps and reset the watch - problem is still there.
If anyone has solutions for 2 or 3, lemme know. Both the Samsung Gear and Samsung Accessory Service app pages on Play Store are flooded with reports that vibrations have stopped working. The indicator shows on the watch face, but the watch doesn't vibrate. Reddit has reports of the same, as well.
At this point, I'd lose days rebuilding the phone if I backed up to Nougat. If you have advice or recommendations, please share 'em.
jamesuhl said:
Since installing 8.1 Wednesday morning:
1. My Google Camera app wouldn't open; I had to replace it.
2. Gmail stopped automatically downloading my email from yahoo.
3. Samsung Gear S2 no longer vibrates when PH-1 receives SMS (it vibrates with Facebook messenger messages, though.) I uninstalled all the associated apps and reset the watch - problem is still there.
If anyone has solutions for 2 or 3, lemme know. Both the Samsung Gear and Samsung Accessory Service app pages on Play Store are flooded with reports that vibrations have stopped working. The indicator shows on the watch face, but the watch doesn't vibrate. Reddit has reports of the same, as well.
At this point, I'd lose days rebuilding the phone if I backed up to Nougat. If you have advice or recommendations, please share 'em.
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The fastest way to downgrade would be using Titanium backup to make backups of everything you need andor want then fastboot flash back with essential's firmware on their website.
jamesuhl said:
Since installing 8.1 Wednesday morning:
1. My Google Camera app wouldn't open; I had to replace it.
2. Gmail stopped automatically downloading my email from yahoo.
3. Samsung Gear S2 no longer vibrates when PH-1 receives SMS (it vibrates with Facebook messenger messages, though.) I uninstalled all the associated apps and reset the watch - problem is still there.
If anyone has solutions for 2 or 3, lemme know. Both the Samsung Gear and Samsung Accessory Service app pages on Play Store are flooded with reports that vibrations have stopped working. The indicator shows on the watch face, but the watch doesn't vibrate. Reddit has reports of the same, as well.
At this point, I'd lose days rebuilding the phone if I backed up to Nougat. If you have advice or recommendations, please share 'em.
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How is your Yahoo account set up... POP or IMAP? If you're having problems with the one fetch method... Try the other...
Is there a setting in you S2 app that turns vibration on and off for individual apps? Otherwise I think that's a blame Samsung...
slikerhael said:
The fastest way to downgrade would be using Titanium backup to make backups of everything you need andor want then fastboot flash back with essential's firmware on their website.
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Thanks for the pointer. I'm now researching rooting.
rignfool said:
How is your Yahoo account set up... POP or IMAP? If you're having problems with the one fetch method... Try the other...
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I'll give a POP a try. Thank you!
rignfool said:
Is there a setting in you S2 app that turns vibration on and off for individual apps? Otherwise I think that's a blame Samsung...
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Yes, there are settings that allow the S2 to vibrate for selected apps only. Messages and FB Messenger are both switched on; only FB Messenger vibrates the S2.
slikerhael said:
The fastest way to downgrade would be using Titanium backup to make backups of everything you need andor want then fastboot flash back with essential's firmware on their website.
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From everything I've read, I need to first root the phone, in order to get Titanium to operate. And, as I understand it, rooting (more accurately, unlocking the bootloader so that I can root) will wipe out all of my phone's settings. If I'm going to have to rebuild this thing from scratch, Essential is getting a call.
Essential customer service wasn't helpful.
I flashed back to 7.1.1 then re-installed 8.1 via OTA. Everything works again. Next step is to root to get Titanium on. I tried this morning, but failed, for some reason.
jamesuhl said:
Essential customer service wasn't helpful.
I flashed back to 7.1.1 then re-installed 8.1 via OTA. Everything works again. Next step is to root to get Titanium on. I tried this morning, but failed, for some reason.
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Make sure you grant titanium backup all it's permissions...
And if you can't get it to restore... Try switching to SELinux permissive
rignfool said:
How is your Yahoo account set up... POP or IMAP? If you're having problems with the one fetch method... Try the other...
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Got the phone rooted, but GMail was just NOT playing nicely with Yahoo; it would not auto-sync and notify of new emails. It would only download new email if/when GMail was launched. Long story short, I manually added the server settings for POP3 and that finally fixed it.
Incoming: pop.mail.yahoo.com, port 995, SSL/TLS
Outgoing: smtp.mail.yahoo.com, port 465, SSL/TLS
Other things I did that may have helped:
1. I uninstalled my Yahoo account from GMail.
2. GMail still showed remnants of my Yahoo account, so I uninstalled the latest GMail update. THAT action removed my Yahoo account.
3. I also verified my Yahoo account was removed from "Users & accounts" under Settings
4. From my PC, I changed my Yahoo password.
5. From my PC, I turned off Yahoo's "two-step verification" security under Yahoo's account settings. [During GMail account setup, the "two-step verification" security approach doesn't appear to use the server's typical password authentication credentials. Instead, it uses text messaging and proprietary codes entered into Chrome, which kept generating a 404 error on my PH-1.]
rignfool said:
Make sure you grant titanium backup all its permissions...
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:good: Done!

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