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Now before I begin, I know there's already a TouchWiz tablet mode in the development forum based off of the the best qualities of the N7000 and the GTab 7.7 (both of which I own), and I've tried it already; it's very exciting development! However, as much as I like this tweak, and as cool as it is (credit given where it's due), wouldn't it be even better if we could simply port a stock Note 10.1 ROM directly to the N7000? I know that the N7000's hardware isn't anywhere near as impressive as the quad-core 2gb beast that the 10.1 is, but the screen resolution of both is the same, and the N7000 is no slouch in the performance department even 1 year on, so maybe it's worth a try?
As I mentioned, I own both the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the N7000. I love both devices. However, I primarily use the 7.7 as my daily driver, mainly because I prefer the tablet interface of Android vs the phone layout used in the stock Note. Thus, my N7000 has sat on my desk, more often than not, as more of a test bed and frankly as more of a toy to use for playing around with all the ROM's that are out there for it (again, credit where it's due!). I've already played around with all the tablet mode options out there; everything from AOSP/AOKP in tablet mode, to the lovely Paranoid hybrid ROM, and so on. However, even then, not everything is as it should be. The S-Pen functionality is greatly reduced, accessories such as MHL output and USB OTG don't always work, and hardware accelerated video playback is usually spotty. In short, it always seems to come close, but it's never quite a perfect fit; there's always something missing.
By porting the Note 10.1's stock TouchWiz to our Note, perhaps that may bring the best of all worlds: a proper TouchWiz tablet UX, with full S-Pen functionality, and all other stock features working properly as they were designed, not to mention the hovering mini-apps for simple things like accessing the dialer, messaging, S-Planner, etc.
If I could have that kind of experience on my current Note, not only would I be disinclined even to get the Note 2, but I think I might just sell my 7.7 as well!! This, for me, would truly be the best of both worlds, which is exactly what Samsung originally intended for the Note when the débuted it at last year's IFA 2011. Having that now would give the N7000 a whole new lease on life; I'm not about to give up on it yet!
What do you guys think?
I was thinking the same
ME TOO )))
Hmm, good to know I wasn't alone! Now, if only we could get the attention of some interested developers! I'd do it myself if I had the know-how (and the free time!)
Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Here ya go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777500
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Seriously, the sooner can do this the better! Or teach me how, and I'll do it
What an awesome idea. I'd love to have something like LiquidBlack ROM but able to run S Planner which I love. And if the perfection of NoteCore kernel were included then it would make my Note into the phone it should have been back in November 2011 when I bought it!
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Now, the more visibility this thread can get to developers, the better!
You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
id like it too A fully functioning stable TW tablet ROM.
Sounds cool !
since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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Yeah, but the Note 2 and the S3 UI's are still all just PHONE features. The Note and the Note 2 are still just big phones with pens from a UI standpoint. While I'm not knocking that in and of itself (for many folks, retaining the phone UI on a large screen is preferable), I am pointing out that it still qualifies the Note(2) as just a really big phone, not a really small tablet.
All I'm lobbying for here is a proper TouchWiz option for the N7000 to be that really small tablet (with all the functionality and driver support of other TouchWiz builds) instead of a really big phone.
Some people prefer the phone UI, others the tablet UI. I don't want to sacrifice any functionality at all if I want to use a tablet UI out of preference. The same choice should be offered to everyone else too!
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You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
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What would be a solution to have a ROM that you can connect in 160 dpi to your monitor with a MHL ?
As far as a I know aosp/aokp does not work, and stock devs managed to lower down to 240 max
Regards
Sounds like a really good idea, I hope some great dev make this possible.
The Note 10.1 has issues with multi-app performance (eg the apps aren't truly running simultaneously). Also, this is limited to only specific apps which can work multi-screen.
I don't really see what the benefit would be here. Plus doesn't it have more in common with the N7100 than the N7000?
Not much benefit for a ton of work which will likely be found useless upstream.
Also lately there have been very few dev projects for the Note 10.1 in general (take a look at their dev subforum)
Hi! I'm new at this forum and recently bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 tablet and I'm not really sure what to think of it yet. I was looking for a tablet I could use exceptionally for college purposes: to write essays, to take notes, to browse the web and essentially manage my college life (and of course watching a couple of movies from time to time ). I found the Galaxy Note 10.1 on the internet and fell in love with it, but the Galaxy Tab 3 was on sale on a local store and I read some good reviews about it so I bought it. I found out that it lags so much it becomes irritating and reboots at least once per day. I eventually installed Nova Launcher and the lag almost disapparead but it still happens when I'm browsing the web from time to time, and the reboots still continue , so I may return it or ask for another one. I read a couple threads saying you could root the Tab and use it for note taking too, but I'm not sure about rooting it now, since I will lose my warranty and I need it now because I'm in my first year in college. The display resolution really doesn't bother me that much, of course a better resolution screen wouldn't hurt a thing, but what I really want is something portable and productive so I don't have to carry around my laptop which is very heavy...
Should I buy the Galaxy Note or stay with the Tab?
Hi.
I make the same brainstorm in every new gadget i want to buy.
Better performance vs more expensive.
The key is value for money. Your valuation vs you money.
If the Tab doesnt meet your expectations, its has low value for you and turns out to be more expensive in the end comparing to the investment on a Note (2012 is cheap now).
Got a 10.1 and for note taking in meeting, net surfing emails etc its the BEST.
Take my following advice with salt and pepper:
I think you have already made the decision for swap it for a note and need some moral support
So here it is: Go for it
Regards
Nuno
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Note 10.1 2012 is not worth to buy, imho. If you really want Note, buy newer one. Samsung hasnt upgraded this device and I have already problems with that. You cannot share SNote files. Apps for smart-devices are nowadays often developed for Android 4.2/4.3 because those give much more opportunities to develope functions in apps. So if you are thinking to keep that device for somentime and buy smart-accessories, you will have problems. But if you are looking a cheap tablet with a pen, notngoing to share SNotes or not going to buy smart-accessories, then you might want to get this tablet. Otherwise, stay away from it!
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8000) is the CHOICE!
Don't listen people that you say 2014 is better and blabla...
I should have possibility to compare Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8000) and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (GT-P6050).
Even the 2014 has better HW, GT-N8000 has more followers and even official Samsung doesn't update GT-N8000 firmware from 4.1.2 to higher one, firmware on 2014 is Android 4.3 (by my oppinion worst Android ever!).:crying: But never mind. When I compare this two devices 2014 had lags, problems with Wi-Fi and even with S-Pen.
Antutu benchmark (after customization ROMS in both devices) show mi score Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8000) = 20976 and Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 (P6050) = 31500. Really big difference. :good: But even 2014 is most high-perfomace tablet on the market, I felt GT-N8000 more efective than 2014. Strange, isn't it? But it's only my oppinion.
PRO's 2012 (GT-N8000)
-Big users support
-A lot of tuned apps
-User friendly
-Great work with S-Pen
-Price = $249
CON's
-Old firmware (but after customizitation you can have even KitKat 4.4.2)
-IPS resolution only 1280x800
-Less memory (16GB) but i Saw 32 GB version too!
PRO's
-One of big perfomance tablet ever!
-Great display resolution 2560*1600
-to future best tablet ever
CON's
-Unwanted apps, a lot of bloatware (but you can unistall it as you want)
-still new device, untuned apps
-A lot od lags
-New S-Pen do what should't be
-Price = $499
Thank you so much for all your replies! After reading a lot of reviews I decided to buy the galaxy note 10.1. (2012 version) and so far i'm very happy with it! I hadn't browsed a lot about the android version problem so i didn't know that it was so far late in the android version but in my case i don't find it a very big issue and i'm very happy with it, there is no lag at all (even when running a ton of apps). The only problem that i encountered was changing the wallpaper so it fits perfectly on the screen, because everytime i tried to change it im forced to crop the picture and turns the oicture to a crappy resolution... I was a little afraid since I hated the tab but so far so good. Of course I hope they update it in the future. I've been searching the web about roms and roots but I understood nothing... can someone enlight me or direct me to a topic where it is explained? My note is the gt-n8010. All I need is a shiny new cover for my note and i'm a very happy costumer! And maybe in a few years i will buy the next version
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Thank you so much for all your replies! After reading a lot of reviews I decided to buy the galaxy note 10.1. (2012 version) and so far i'm very happy with it! I hadn't browsed a lot about the android version problem so i didn't know that it was so far late in the android version but in my case i don't find it a very big issue and i'm very happy with it, there is no lag at all (even when running a ton of apps). The only problem that i encountered was changing the wallpaper so it fits perfectly on the screen, because everytime i tried to change it im forced to crop the picture and turns the oicture to a crappy resolution... I was a little afraid since I hated the tab but so far so good. Of course I hope they update it in the future. I've been searching the web about roms and roots but I understood nothing... can someone enlight me or direct me to a topic where it is explained? My note is the gt-n8010. All I need is a shiny new cover for my note and i'm a very happy costumer! And maybe in a few years i will buy the next version
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
(you might want to update the firmware first before doing this)
If you want to use any pic for a wallpaper do this:
Install simple image wallpaper live wallpaper. It lets you select sny pic you want for your wall and it works great and is free.
Go do it now.
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I would prefer N8013 over Tab 3 10.1 because:
More RAM (2GB vs 1GB)
Quad-core CPU (ARM vs X86)
S Pen
100% virtual buttons on the bottom (true tablet operation)
Flash (it does not work with X86 Android)
I prefer the note 10.1 over the tablet.
More functionally and productively.
The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).
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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm waiting for the lte version of either the 10.1 or the 8.4
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I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).
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I missed the Groupon sale, would've definitely got it if it was still available, or it's on sale at different places now?
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I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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It's going to be released today in the states, pre-orders were up for some time on Amazon and BestBuy.
I have pre-ordered the 8.4 through Amazon, but since I purchased black instead of white it's been delayed until Feb 19.
I have had a Nexus 7 (too small) and an iPad (too big). I think the 8.4 is the sweet spot. In my opinion this tablet far exceeds the iPad mini at the same price point.
Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?
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Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?
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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review
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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review
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I've really barely used it yet. Also, apparently there is no root yet, but I suspect that won't take long. But, that has hinder me in playing with the new multi-windows, outside of what it can do stock (making my other apps multi-window and such). Also, I only had the Note 10.1 2014 for a day or two before deciding I prefered my original Note 10.1.
The new multi-windows is certainly nicer than on the Note 10.1 2014. They open in a cascade view that is resizable. (this can be done with addons with the 10.1 2014). While you can change to full screen, like the 10.1 2014, once full screen there is no way offered to go back to windowed.
Coming from the original Note10.1, which I chose to keep over the 2014 model, and with the help of Multi-Windows Manager 3rd party app, I can make any app multi window capable and they all get the icon in full screen that allows you to return to windowed mode. This is a peev of mine. Your milage may vary.
At any rate, until I can root and install a 3rd party multi window app, I will not know how much will be changed.
I can't compare it to the note 10.1 2014 for performance, but I can't say I notice lag.
As to benchmarks, as worthwhile as they are (I can only compare against original Note 10.1):
Quadrant Free: Tab Pro: 17857 Note 10.1: 6000
Antutu: Tab Pro: 33970 Note 10.1: 15861
I like the new gui far better than god awful touchwiz, which I always replaced with Nova Launcher. Magazine UX or whatever this launcher is called has special screen pages that use special widgets. The news selections appear to use Flipboard, which is an "uninstallable" app.
When I have used it more, I shall report findings.
Edit 1:
Just remembered, I had tried 2 of the Note 10.1 2014...first had a case defect. With both, and as many others have reported, my existing bluetooth keyboard would continually be disconnecting and reconnecting. I can happily report I am not experiencing this issue with the same bt keyboard.
Edit2:
Booted up with no apps running, memory cleared from task manager, you already have 1.17gb of your usable 1.72gb total is in use. I do understand android memory usage and am not stating this as a problem. But it often comes up.
Edit3:
Not sure I will be rushing back into Nova or any other alternative launcher. I'm kind of liking this. Not perfect, but pretty nice. TBH, If I knew the Note 10.1 2014 was getting this update along with kitkat, I would highly consider exchanging this for it.
Edit4: Have been using it for a few hours now. Unless 3rd party, root-required apps change it a lot, samsung seems to have decided to degrade the functionailty of multi-windows since the original Note 10.1. While better that in the note 2014, still leaves me missing my old tab :-\
I was going to get the 10.1 pro but I got the 8.4 instead. I like the portability and I wanted something to closely fit the same size of my iPad mini with retina. I must say I think the iPad might have to find a new home because I am really loving Samsung whole new ui and it's pretty dam snappy and fast
I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.
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I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.
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I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen
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I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen
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Hey man,
Congrats on the 10.1 purchase, stuck between this and the note 10 2014 myself....
I dont think I'd use the s pen after the novelty has worn off and there is quite a bit of difference in weight.
How are you finding the Pro 10.1? Any issues? How is the battery life?
Sorry for the questions but I'm sure there are others wanting to find out the same info
EDIT - Anybody else that has purchased the Pro 10, please feel free to chime in
Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.
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Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.
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GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???
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GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???
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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks
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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks
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Do you have any battery screen shots? What kind of usage did you put the device through?
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Well, my Tab Pro 10.1 will reach my US address by Monday and then it will take a week or so to reach my country here (Egypt), will do a detailed review with videos as soon as I lay my hands on it.
I cracked the screen on my Nexus 10 and Squaretrade can't fix it so they are sending me $500. Was going to go out and buy the tab pro 10.1 today until I realized Best Buy only has a 16GB model. Looks like 32GB isn't out yet anywhere. Boo. I tried doing some googling but can't find out when 32GB will be released. It looks like it's planned at least. Anyone know when?
I picked a 32GB Note 10.1 2014 Edition. Picked it up because I used to have the original note. I wasn't sure if I should have purchased the tab pro instead.
So you guys have an opinion?
I like the s pen but I don't need it.
Thanks guys
Tab Pro is newer
S-Pen is critical when I need to use it
I see SS will use Super Amoled on new Tab/NotePro line up in late 2014
It's almost the same tablet, same SoC, screen and (almost) the same body. The only hardware difference I found was whether or not the S-Pen is included.
All about the S-pen
If you like handwriting recognition, then you need the note. If you never use the S-pen, then what is the point? Individual decision based on useage case mate.
le0.br4zuc4 said:
I picked a 32GB Note 10.1 2014 Edition. Picked it up because I used to have the original note. I wasn't sure if I should have purchased the tab pro instead.
So you guys have an opinion?
I like the s pen but I don't need it.
Thanks guys
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If you like handwriting recognition, then you need the note. If you never use the S-pen, then what is the point? Individual decision based on useage case mate.
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I've played with a couple of N12's and after the 4.4 update the N10.1-14 is faster. M-UX apparently uses a boat load of resources. When M-UX was first announced I was excited because it appeared to be thorough enough to be an alternate UI. It ended up being My Magazine de-constructed and on steroids and takes up a mandatory home page. For those that appeals to it's a potential plus. I'm glad we didn't get it because I like how my home pages are laid out. Don't forget the Tab Pro 10 only has 2GB of RAM. That may or may not be a big deal depending on how much RAM the active digitizer and S Pen/Note use. Speaking of the display it's not the same as ours because it's a standard conductive display. I have no idea what that translates in to performance wise. One benefit the Tab Pro 10 has is that it's newer and shares s/w with the other Pros. For all we know 4.4 may be our last update.
I think I saw an unofficial Cyanogenmod and AOKP, no Paranoid Android yet? That's my personal favorite. I'm not requesting or trying to come off in that way, I'm just very close to purchasing a tablet and I'd like it if I had those options. So you guys know if any ROM like that are being worked on?
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There is only one really custom ROM for Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and it is only for P605 model: Cyanogenmod. That's all, others ROM are based on stocks so I wouldn't expect a huge developer support for this device. :/
Yup. CM looks promising. I hope that it is still around and will make a daily driver, once stock 4.4.2 is mega outdated. Until then i'll stick with that.
Does CM support the stylus in non-Samsung apps with stylus support?
FYI I saw that someone had a "working" CM build on the Tab S 10.5 in their CM11 thread. Tas S 10.5 is exynos and has similar internals to p600..maybe someone can port that over somehow?
Edit: There's a working CM11 port on the tab pro 10.1/12.1 models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1vossH1FM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...pment/cm-11-port-galaxy-tab-pro-10-1-t2850042
Any chance a dev can port these over to the p600? I think the CPU and most of the internals are the same between the tab pro and the note 10.1 2014
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FYI I saw that someone had a "working" CM build on the Tab S 10.5 in their CM11 thread. Tas S 10.5 is exynos and has similar internals to p600..maybe someone can port that over somehow?
Edit: There's a working CM11 port on the tab pro 10.1/12.1 models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1vossH1FM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...pment/cm-11-port-galaxy-tab-pro-10-1-t2850042
Any chance a dev can port these over to the p600? I think the CPU and most of the internals are the same between the tab pro and the note 10.1 2014
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Damn, all the video i was like "Hey, why is he not demonstrating the pen functionality". Now i feel stupid.
Pazzu510 said:
Damn, all the video i was like "Hey, why is he not demonstrating the pen functionality". Now i feel stupid.
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The only difference is the pen and the extra 1 gb of ram we have on our model I believe (hardware wise). I don't care so much about CM11 right now since L is around the corner. Hopefully after L comes out, someone would port over CM12 or whatever to the P600.
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The only difference is the pen and the extra 1 gb of ram we have on our model I believe (hardware wise). I don't care so much about CM11 right now since L is around the corner. Hopefully after L comes out, someone would port over CM12 or whatever to the P600.
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that is some unhealthy optimism
what I mean is, don't get your hopes up too high or you might be disappointed
I'd love to be proven wrong 'though [AOSP / CM / PA on P600 would be awesome]
r4yN said:
that is some unhealthy optimism
what I mean is, don't get your hopes up too high or you might be disappointed
I'd love to be proven wrong 'though [AOSP / CM / PA on P600 would be awesome]
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Unrealistic..I know lol. Hell I just hope Samsung brings L over officially on this. They will most likely update the Tab S and maybe the Tab Pro..so this should also hopefully get it.
I have my S5 to use for CM12
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Unrealistic..I know lol. Hell I just hope Samsung brings L over officially on this. They will most likely update the Tab S and maybe the Tab Pro..so this should also hopefully get it.
I have my S5 to use for CM12
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Samsung usual M.O. (modus operandii) is to bring out the Galaxy Note 10.1 2015ed... It will have the latest stuff and our 2014 ed will be left standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment...
Anyone remember the Note 10.1 (N800*)?
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Samsung usual M.O. (modus operandii) is to bring out the Galaxy Note 10.1 2015ed... It will have the latest stuff and our 2014 ed will be left standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment...
Anyone remember the Note 10.1 (N800*)?
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The thing is that n8000 was not very good from the start, screen was not god at all, processor was good but not that much, battery was meh, plastic body was cheap as it gets. There is not much to do about the note 2014 though; pro tabs came up this year as the premium option for the tablet line and they are almost the same as our beloved tablet, only with amoled display. Maybe an amoled display instead of normal lcd, maybe 64 processor, and i find it difficult they will improve the pen technology; these are the only things i find possible to improve(apart from touchwiz of course).
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The thing is that n8000 was not very good from the start, screen was not god at all, processor was good but not that much, battery was meh, plastic body was cheap as it gets. There is not much to do about the note 2014 though; pro tabs came up this year as the premium option for the tablet line and they are almost the same as our beloved tablet, only with amoled display. Maybe an amoled display instead of normal lcd, maybe 64 processor, and i find it difficult they will improve the pen technology; these are the only things i find possible to improve(apart from touchwiz of course).
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N8000 was pretty good, yes the screen resolution wasn't super high but the images and video were very good. I get as much battery life out of the N8000 as the P605 and, considering most people get cases, didn't matter much what the body felt like as the leather case felt good anyway...
It could've easily handled the updated Android Samsung release for the P605 but never got anything over ICS (officially)...
Samsung seem to feel it's worth more in profits to release a new tablet, did we need the pro series, than to update existing hardware. Where is the financial advantage of keeping the older stuff up to date?
As for improving the pen technology, they did just that with the Note 4. Has better pressure sensitivity and writing ability than the Note 3. Anything else they'd do is really software improvements.
64 processor and 5gb of RAM would be nice though....
ultramag69 said:
N8000 was pretty good, yes the screen resolution wasn't super high but the images and video were very good. I get as much battery life out of the N8000 as the P605 and, considering most people get cases, didn't matter much what the body felt like as the leather case felt good anyway...
It could've easily handled the updated Android Samsung release for the P605 but never got anything over ICS (officially)...
Samsung seem to feel it's worth more in profits to release a new tablet, did we need the pro series, than to update existing hardware. Where is the financial advantage of keeping the older stuff up to date?
As for improving the pen technology, they did just that with the Note 4. Has better pressure sensitivity and writing ability than the Note 3. Anything else they'd do is really software improvements.
64 processor and 5gb of RAM would be nice though....
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Hey, with that I completely agree; what i didn't agree on was on the "standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment" part. Far from the internals which are pretty good on both n8000 and p600, pretty much everything from n8000 externally could have been better and I dont think that is the case with the p600. Sure, you can upgrade the pen, the cpu to 64 bits and change lcd for amoled, but those are bells and whisles for the average user we know it has not much impact for the usability overall(like the comparison you make between n8000 and p605); damn, even if anyone takes a look at those pro tabs it is difficult to differentiate it from ours and they are the premium suite right now(contrast to 2013 like our tab was). My point is, even if Samsung decides to do a new Galaxy Note, which it will because its an allmost 2 year old tab, and with the addons we discussed, we cant possibly end up in embararassment as the n8000 did with all its superfluous flaws; even more, if, as you say, Samsung is interested in business more than its interested in the best and inovative technologies I think it will be the kind of jump galaxy s3 did to s4 and a lot of advertisement; if you dont have it in your hand and examine it a little bit most people wont see the difference.
And, n8010 got 4.4 before my p600 officially, so there is that. I bet they just decided not to use the new Touchwiz because Touchwiz is the less optimized crap and not because the internals coultdn't handle it becuase, as you said, n8000 internals are pretty good.
iiDeadSeriousii said:
I think I saw an unofficial Cyanogenmod and AOKP, no Paranoid Android yet? That's my personal favorite. I'm not requesting or trying to come off in that way, I'm just very close to purchasing a tablet and I'd like it if I had those options. So you guys know if any ROM like that are being worked on?
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Just my opinion: if you're looking for a stock android option I'd go for another tablet. The note is a great product but only if you need and use the stylus. And you will probably lose at least some pen functionality with cm so I'd say it's not worth it.
Yea I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't the tablet for me. I'll just wait a few weeks for Nexus 9 then. Thanks guys.
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CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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It should, and there are many alternatives available to the Samsung apps....
CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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Pen detection with preasure sensitivity and attachment-detachment detection on the tablet still work under cm, or at least they worked on the n8000 note running cm. With those functions working, everything else is a gimmick. Multiwindow can be done with xposed and roms like omni rom, and I bet it would be a much more responsive multitasking. Omnirom works on my acer a500 for gods sake; now imagine a tablet with tegra 2 running today's Touchwiz. (Its Haloween time and we are supposed to think about ugly things). The only downside, or upside as I see it, are the gestures framework that on Touchwiz works anywhere on your tab; features like selecting anything and exporting it as an image or clicking the pen button and double tapping to open "Action Memo" wouldn't be on CM. Because of this though, pen button actually works according to the app using it. An example is Papyrus that gives you the option to change tools when the pen button is clicked. With this in mind, I would say it is worth it; Will we see it, I am not sure anymore. :crying:
Yea I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't the tablet for me. I'll just wait a few weeks for Nexus 9 then. Thanks guys.
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Still, if you want anything with stock android, samsung is the worst company to buy from.
If you want some recomendations I say the following:
Shield tablet is a nice 8 inch tablet with 64bit processor and a passive stylus technology(It has stylus but it is not as good as Spen).
Surface 3 is a nice and expencive windows tablet if you are into that(Stylus as good as SPen but with the ups and downs from windows; Also $$$$).
Nexus 9 is an expensive but well worth it, gorgeous tablet but with no known pen functionality.(No directstylus 2.0 technology that we know of; but nexus and good speakers).
Please, if anyone have comments on this suggestions let me know. I love to hear about new tablets, functions and if feature's live to their names.