Is there an option that can set a different screen timeout parameter when the phone is plugged in vs when it is on battery? I'm coming from a windows mobile phone and loved to be able to have my phone screen on at night while plugged in so i could find it easier
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mdhaliwal said:
Is there an option that can set a different screen timeout parameter when the phone is plugged in vs when it is on battery? I'm coming from a windows mobile phone and loved to be able to have my phone screen on at night while plugged in so i could find it easier
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Not sure, but if you decide to pickup a desk/hdmi dock the screen will not timeout on it. You have to shut it off. And there is a night mode which is extremely dim, almost like a night light, and the screen can be read if your face is right on front of it.
Hey I got some help from people on HowardForums (Humpa) but anyways the setting is under settings>applications>development...kind of a weird place to hide something like this. Hope this helps others.
Hi there, I have this problem; my AT&T GS4 does not use the deep sleep state. I have made some research, and from what I understood, this problem has to be a result of any program that keeps triggering the phone to get awake.
So, I have the phone unlocked, rooted and ALL the sensors off, expect from gsm signal. With titanium back I have uninstalled the programs that I´ll never gonna use (mostly AT&T bloadware) and frozen the ones that I don’t want to use right know, but maybe by deleting them I would get into a problem (like S-Voice) or just because some day I would like to give them a try. Finally, there are the programs that I would like to keep, but I don’t want to let them make any cpu use while I am not using them. I used an application called Greenyfi, a good example of why this program is the best for the last propose, is the use of programs like google maps, in where I do want to use it, but, just when I open the app. Also, I used the app “Autostarts” to prevent applications to start after some events (like startup, state change, etc..)
With all that been said, I am steel not getting deep sleep, in any situation. I´am not saying that my battery life is bad, I think I can get easily 4-5 screen time use. But, by not getting into deep sleep, the phone is allways using the cpu at 384mhz, so the battery goes down in a range of 1.5 to 2 % per hour (10 hours of no use and 20% less battery).
SO, for you to see the problem better. I did a little experiment. Restart the phone, put it into flight mode and let it “sleep” for the night, the results are attached.
PD: Whatsapp isn’t the problem; I can froze it and still 0% deep sleep.
PD2: Sorry for the language, I forgot to change it.
Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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Get BetterBatteryStats app. It'll tell you what's keeping your phone awake. Look for partial wake locks.
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ok, I did it, and BBS says that in partial wakelocks there is no major problem (20seg out of 1 hour the worst app). BUT, in kernel wakelocks, shows that "MSM_HSIC_HOST", is using the exact amount of time since the phone was turned on (1 hour). So, it has to be this. I´ve reading a huge thread of many people having a similar problem (mmsm_hsic_host been the process that wakes the phone most, but not using ALL the time, but considerable time (between 50% to 10). I ‘keep reading until I found a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999368
Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??
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Bro! I am so trying to get my s4 to not go into deep deep sleep, to be able to have a switch or click here button to be able to toggle that option would be the way for me to continue to use unlimited 4g tether because i was told to use hotspot vpn shield to prevent tim lee mobile from sniffing my data to see if i were tethering ! Although the vpn just told me that the application goes in to deep sleep (aka it turns off!) That's right folks the application turns off without you knowing until it's too late, so let see where to go from here. ??
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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Keep it plugged in and in developer options click stay awake and it should stay on when plugged in.
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sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?
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sweet thanks bro! maybe i can just manually push the power button once to turn off the screen while charging to save on screen back light usage. or is this just possible in my imagination?
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Yes if you have developer mode to stay awake while plugged in and want to turn the screen off at any point just hit the power button to lock/shutoff the screen.
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well the hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc. makes thier app shut down when the phone goes into standby said the tech guy today because it still shut off.
so i suppose i need to prevent standby
ok i got to the bottom of this , hotspot shield vpn by anchors inc.are liars , the tether app auto prevents standby and i also i enabled the developer stay awake optiion. it turns out the application will turn off when no data is being sent for sometime and i have a feeling that it is in their favor for whatever reason otherwise the app would have an option to not shut off
now i was looking into getting termenal_ide to ping google every so often say every 3 or 5 minutes ,
i ran it and it was pinging like a mad man , more then once per second , i though i might get blacklisted for a false ddos
I have a stock, unrooted Nexus 4. Every time I set my display timeout to 1 minute, an hour later (amount of time seems random) it's back to 15 seconds.
I've had apps installed to keep my screen on when google music is playing, but have since removed them to see if they were the cause. I also removed the Snapdragon Battery Guru in case that was the issue. Nothing helped. I'm out of ideas, and as far as I can see I have no other apps that would have to do with the display or the battery installed.
Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks!
Try downloading "screen off" on the play store. It's a plug in that may fix your issue. The developer's name is Dougi hsu.
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I just got my case today and my N7 doesn't always wake when I open the cover. I'd say it works about 80% of the time and it seems worse after the tablet has been sitting for a while. Almost as if it's sleeping too deeply to wake. A press of the power button fixes it but I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue. If not, I need to think about whether I have a bad case or a defective tablet.
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Well what case have you got?
I have no such problem on my Portenzo hardback case.
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I just got my case today and my N7 doesn't always wake when I open the cover. I'd say it works about 80% of the time and it seems worse after the tablet has been sitting for a while. Almost as if it's sleeping too deeply to wake. A press of the power button fixes it but I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue. If not, I need to think about whether I have a bad case or a defective tablet.
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On mine, if you lose WiFi connection while it is asleep it won't magnetic wake.
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On mine, if you lose WiFi connection while it is asleep it won't magnetic wake.
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Same. WiFi on or off seems to work okay... WiFi on and searching is always touch and go for me. Hopefully it can be fixed pretty easily in software down the road... before it starts to actually bother me.
Noticed this on mine as well. Different than my 2012 model but not a real problem
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RKight said:
I just got my case today and my N7 doesn't always wake when I open the cover. I'd say it works about 80% of the time and it seems worse after the tablet has been sitting for a while. Almost as if it's sleeping too deeply to wake. A press of the power button fixes it but I'm wondering if anyone else is having this issue. If not, I need to think about whether I have a bad case or a defective tablet.
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I've found that it does actually wake up, eventually. I just tested it myself. When I got my Poetic slimline case, I was obviously messing with the Nexus 7 and it worked every time. I'd left the device sleeping (wifi set to not run during sleep, BT off), and when I grabbed it just now and opened the flap, nothing happened for almost 10 seconds. Crazy. However, it did eventually sleep/wake by itself. When I closed the cover and then opened it, it instantly awoke. So it seems like after the device has been sleeping for a while it just takes it a bit to wake up. Of course you can just hit the power button, too..
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I've found that it does actually wake up, eventually. I just tested it myself. When I got my Poetic slimline case, I was obviously messing with the Nexus 7 and it worked every time. I'd left the device sleeping (wifi set to not run during sleep, BT off), and when I grabbed it just now and opened the flap, nothing happened for almost 10 seconds. Crazy. However, it did eventually sleep/wake by itself. When I closed the cover and then opened it, it instantly awoke. So it seems like after the device has been sleeping for a while it just takes it a bit to wake up. Of course you can just hit the power button, too..
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With WiFi set to stay on during sleep it works fine even during very long sleeps, like overnight. It's almost a non-issue for me since I always have WiFi on and if I go out I just remember to toggle it off or turn on tethering on the trusty old N4.
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With WiFi set to stay on during sleep it works fine even during very long sleeps, like overnight. It's almost a non-issue for me since I always have WiFi on and if I go out I just remember to toggle it off or turn on tethering on the trusty old N4.
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Yeah. All I know is I have the wifi set to not run during sleep, and all seems fine, - just that it takes the Nexus a good number of seconds to come alive after it's been asleep a while.
I decided to wait patiently and see if it would wake on its own. It did but took a full 20 seconds. On my first gen N7, it woke instantly every time. Hopefully it's something they'll eventually fix.
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I decided to wait patiently and see if it would wake on its own. It did but took a full 20 seconds. On my first gen N7, it woke instantly every time. Hopefully it's something they'll eventually fix.
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lol should start a contest! Whose Nexus 7 2013 takes the longest to wake up?!
Same for me.
I noticed if WIFI is ON, or device is connecting to power/USB. The wake will works perfectly and instantly.
But if WIFI is OFF or not USB connection, the wake is not function after closed the cover for few seconds.
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lol should start a contest! Whose Nexus 7 2013 takes the longest to wake up?!
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mine...mine...
Last night (I timed) it took 30seconds.
This morning (1st wake of the day, didn't exactly timed) it was more than a minute.
USPS has had my replacement "out for delivery" since early yesterday ... but never made it.. talk about the
organization in trouble... I usually see the man parking his truck in the shade, taking his time.
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mine...mine...
Last night (I timed) it took 30seconds.
This morning (1st wake of the day, didn't exactly timed) it was more than a minute.
USPS has had my replacement "out for delivery" since early yesterday ... but never made it.. talk about the
organization in trouble... I usually see the man parking his truck in the shade, taking his time.
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That's impressive! I'm sure it's a bug that affects all Nexus 7 2013 devices, but it's still lame.
For anyone having this issue, I found a thread on the Google product forums about this. That's apparently how they became aware of the other issues that have been reported. If you could, please post your problem in this thread: http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/mobile/android-devices/8MTpqfFmw8Q
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Are we sure this is actually an issue? Based on the threads I'm reading about this, the cover only seems to wake the screen when you open it while things are running that would normally keep the N7 out of deep sleep. Isn't the tablet being able to enter deep sleep mode successfully a good thing?
The reason I say this is because a lot of you, including myself are reporting that when Wifi is off, and the tablet is unplugged, opening the cover won't wake the screen if it's been closed for a long time but it will after just short periods. This indicates deep sleep being entered successfully. If the cover is able to wake the screen in that mode, I'd be more worried that deep sleep mode isn't being entered successfully.
I guess the main question is: Is 4.3 along with the Nexus 7 hardware actually designed to only be able to be powered on by the power button itself during deep sleep? Do not services have to be running in the background constantly in order to allow something else to wake the screen? For example, in order for one of those 3rd party screen apps that use either proximity sensors, or light sensors or position sensors (shake) in order to wake your screen to work, all of the better ones I've seen not only require administrator permission, but also running background services.
In other words, they use the hardware sensors inside the Nexus 7 to wake the screen but also require some kind of additional resources running in the background. Which means resources being consumed. Smart covers also use hardware inside the N7 to wake the screen but without an app consuming resources in the background to so do. Which means NO resources consuming battery or memory, which is a good thing.
I'm not so sure I even WANT this fixed if it's going to mean my tablet has to have stuff running in the background in order for it to work. If Google can make it so that's not the case, then I have no problem with it. I could be completely wrong as well, I'm just speculating so if Google says it is actually a software bug then I guess I am.
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Do not services have to be running in the background constantly in order to allow something else to wake the screen?
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I guess that depends on the magnetometer chip they are using. If it can generate an async interrupt on a change in magnetic field, then that is one thing, if it has to be polled, that's something else. I don't find it too great a hardship to occasionally have to press the button, so if it is doing this to save more power, that suits me.
I think this thread is about all the "odd" things happening, specifically to the some 2013 Nexus 7 (some people don't have this problem).
I also have the 2012 N7 and the Nook HD+ with smart covers, both are running JB4.3.
Both can go into deep sleep and whatever (wifi on/off, things running or not) and will wake up in an instant as normal.
This is not normal !!
By the way, I received the replacement and similar results. I didn't expect it to fix the issue anyway as I think this is similar
to the tough issue with some N7s (I don't have this issue) which is a google problem.
A little off-topic about deep sleep... my Nook HD+ can sleep for a whole day and only take 1% of the battery.. best I've seen.
Edit: just in case somebody thinking about a ROM problem, I've tried multiple ROMs including stock.. all have same issue.
Moko smart cover is the best
It should wake up within a second, at worst, period. Ideally it'll wake up "almost instantaneously". There's something wrong.
I wish the mods would merge these two threads so the nonsense is at least in one place.
Mine sometimes will wake after a delay and will sometimes just sit and do nothing at all until I press the power button. It has turned on after a 30 second delay, after being idle all night, but has also completely failed to turn on after being idle for just five minutes. This thread is definitely aimed toward the odd inconsistences and what I indeed perceive to be a problem.
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