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Subforum suggestion...

Off Topic...
We need an off topic section (frankly we need one in every forum with a decent amount of traffic)
It'd be a great place to ask opinions on things (like I want to ask for peoples opinions on the new Windows Phone 7 in depth preview and how the OS looks ON ITS OWN (doesn't stack up to Android IMO because well...it's too damn closed) etc...but I can't ask that here because some blowhard will cry about it being off topic and then some mod will lock it...and I will die a little inside (joke)
but yea...dunno who to speak to about this but I feel since a lot of us on here do wish to speak about relatively off topic things it'd keep traffic in the Nexus specific forums more on topic and give us a place to just...chit chat a bit....
but yea...just a well thought out and respectable super duper awesome OMG how can he be so cool kinda suggestion I thought I'd try and get across...
feel free to opine.

There is already an off-topic section. If you want opinions on windows phone 7, may i suggest the Windows Phone 7 general section...here

Mokurex said:
There is already an off-topic section. If you want opinions on windows phone 7, may i suggest the Windows Phone 7 general section...here
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so in other words you didn't read what I wrote?

I like this idea because it would be nice to have the off-topic discussion limited to other nexus one owners. Honestly, I don't think this will happen though.
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AbsoluteDesignz said:
so in other words you didn't read what I wrote?
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Sigh...Then what's the point of the existing off-topic forum? This is a Nexus One forum, where people talk about Nexus One related stuff, not a Nexus One USER forum. If you want to talk about certain things like WP7 or HD2 etc. go to that specific forum.
Going with your logic, let's say one day every nexus one user wants to talk about the HD2, so there should be a HD2 sub-forum under the Nexus One forum? really?
I know what you're trying to say, and i would love to have a place where nexus one owners talk about random stuff too =) but it probably won't happen because of what i said above.

It's a fair comment I think, comparing/looking at other topics from a viewpoint of a N1 owner.
Wouldn't need a forum for every phone, just a 'oddbits' subforum.
Or a bit more relaxing of the rules in QnA forum perhaps?

Mokurex said:
Sigh...Then what's the point of the existing off-topic forum? This is a Nexus One forum, where people talk about Nexus One related stuff, not a Nexus One USER forum. If you want to talk about certain things like WP7 or HD2 etc. go to that specific forum.
Going with your logic, let's say one day every nexus one user wants to talk about the HD2, so there should be a HD2 sub-forum under the Nexus One forum? really?
I know what you're trying to say, and i would love to have a place where nexus one owners talk about random stuff too =) but it probably won't happen because of what i said above.
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Except I didn't suggest a WP7 forum. I suggested a general off topic forum...meaning anything from Aardvark's to Zion can be discussed there. We wouldn't need a separate sub-forum for each and every discussion.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
Except I didn't suggest a WP7 forum. I suggested a general off topic forum...meaning anything from Aardvark's to Zion can be discussed there. We wouldn't need a separate sub-forum for each and every discussion.
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Like I said I know what you mean, the mods will never approve of this tho.

This forum already has too many sub sections as it is.

I'm sorry, I fail to understand what you are asking for, how is your request any different from the already existent General Discussion Forum? Which contains an "Off-topic" sub-forum.
Care to clarify your request? Or explain how the already existent "Off-topic" forum does not meet your requirements?

daveid said:
I'm sorry, I fail to understand what you are asking for, how is your request any different from the already existent General Discussion Forum? Which contains an "Off-topic" sub-forum.
Care to clarify your request? Or explain how the already existent "Off-topic" forum does not meet your requirements?
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Okay...I use Nexus...People here use Nexus
Sometimes I, as a Nexus user would like to know what others, who also use a Nexus, think of certain things that are not related to the Nexus One...
Creating a severely off topic thread in the N1 forum results in a close...so to alleviate this pressing concern of mine, I suggested an off topic random sub forum here so anyone can discuss anything thereby probably cleaning up the other segments since a lot of random OT stuff gets thrown haphazardly around in both General and Q&A.

Separate forum for flashing/bricking

How about a separate forum for ROM flashing/bricking issues with the Note, to keep all that kind of traffic separate from general questions?
The Q&A forum is getting swamped with such questions, plus a lot of them cover the same issue and so getting them all in one place might help people searching for answers and also reduce the number of postings about the same thing.
It would also mean that people like me who aren't planning to flash their Notes (yet) can get on with reading and contributing general stuff.
Any thoughts?

I'd seriously consider proposing another one for whining and complaining, it seems to be second most popular subject, right after bricking. Fortunately, the superbrick panic subsides or we'd need a third one.
PS. What could be the name of the forum? "Help, I bricked my Note"?
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im thinking of proposing a 500 post minimum for posting in the development section!

IMO it is very good idea. The general and q&a sections are full of brick related threads.

This forum is a mess

I don't mean to complain, but rather voice my opinion on the fact that these forums for the gs3 are just too messy. I don't think it's efficient to have one forum for gs3 themes when they're not compatible across different carriers.
I'm just saying that we're all modding our phones here, which we all know can end disastrously if something is flashed that shouldn't be. And it seems like every other post in the T-mobile development forums are people with Sprint variants asking questions about compatibility etc etc. I'm here to read about my phone, and mods that are applicable to my device, not people having problems or questions about a phone variant I don't even own. Not to mention it's annoying to see a theme I like, only to find out there's no version for my T-mobile variant.
I can understand the General/Q&A/Accessories forums being unified, but themes? It's already been clearly stated that they don't work across each carrier so why are they all mushed together in one forum? I liked the layout before; 5 subsections for each carriers device, and I don't think this new breakdown is as efficient as it could be.

Well there's different forums for each carriers Android development at least. But I agree I don't like combining all carriers into one general forum
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Agreed, this place is a mess. I can understand having all the US variants under one "main" section of the forums, but I would then have 4 subforums: AT&T, T-Mo, Sprint, & Verizon, and then each of those subforums have a General, Q&A, Development, & theme section. Leave the accessories subsection under the "main" US GS3 section.

Thank you for using this thread as a solution instead of adding much more "mess" to our section. Please take the time to enjoy our many other "mess" threads regarding your "opinion"
Here is an ideal one. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734159

Mods should delete crap threads immediately
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1SiK1500 said:
Thank you for using this thread as a solution instead of adding much more "mess" to our section. Please take the time to enjoy our many other "mess" threads regarding your "opinion"
Here is an ideal one. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734159
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I think that's kind of what OP is talking about. I saw that thread a while ago but haven't been able to find anything without spending 20 minutes scrolling. Or subscribing to every thread I read and wanted to get back to. Search has proven useless from the phone.
Sent from my DROIDX

Galaxy S3 forums are a mess

Now we have multiple development forums for each carrier but for some reason we cannot manage to have discussion forums based on the carrier? Why not? This does not make any sense at all.
Trying to sort through all the info is a real pain in the neck. I am the type that tries to read everything I can to avoid stupid questions that can be easily researched, but the current format seems dysfunctional to me.
Most posters do not tell us what carrier they are on when asking questions or providing information, so much of the info is a waste.
No offense intended toward the mods, but I believe there is a better way to handle this phone.
I have had multiple phones and have never seen so many issues on an XDA forum before.
PS. can we unsticky the pre-order discussions yet? I find it annoying when viewing the forums on my phone to have to scroll past useless threads.
Sorry for the mini rant...
Hope everyone has a great day!

What's your suggestion?

Agree, there needs to be an entire section for each carrier. General, development , QnA, and themes.
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I agree that things could be cleaned up a bit. I think it would be better if the "Original Development" forums were subforums of each of the Development forums. I like that the development forums are separated by carrier and that all the other forums are not, but there's no reason to have two completely separate development boards for each carrier. I also think some of the stickies in general discussion could be taken down.

jcbofkc said:
Now we have multiple development forums for each carrier but for some reason we cannot manage to have discussion forums based on the carrier? Why not? This does not make any sense at all.
Trying to sort through all the info is a real pain in the neck. I am the type that tries to read everything I can to avoid stupid questions that can be easily researched, but the current format seems dysfunctional to me.
Most posters do not tell us what carrier they are on when asking questions or providing information, so much of the info is a waste.
No offense intended toward the mods, but I believe there is a better way to handle this phone.
I have had multiple phones and have never seen so many issues on an XDA forum before.
PS. can we unsticky the pre-order discussions yet? I find it annoying when viewing the forums on my phone to have to scroll past useless threads.
Sorry for the mini rant...
Hope everyone has a great day!
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I agree that it is a mess. The new "Original" development section does not make sense. We do not need it and we did fine without having it in the Nexus One forums.
Can we make a development forum that pertains to all devices and then have a separate one that only works for the individual devices. E.g.: Kernels would go in device specific development, and then ROMs/scripts that work for all devices would go in the general development forum.
The last thing I need to do is scour the ATT, Verizon, and Sprint development + their Original Development Forums to see if I can use any of their ROMs/Scripts, etc... 9 different development forums are too many!!

Why does each carrier have two separate development forums anyway? The ones on the bottom don't even have anything in them really? I thought this was some type of error.

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Sorry. I should have provided the solution.
Go back to the original format when the forums were based by carrier. I know it would help new folks. As the popularity of this phone increases the problems will also multiply. I would hate for someone to mess up their phone by taking advice from a person on a different system.
Anyway that is my 2cents on the topic.

Markdental said:
I agree that it is a mess. The new "Original" development section does not make sense. We do not need it and we did fine without having it in the Nexus One forums.
Can we make a development forum that pertains to all devices and then have a separate one that only works for the individual devices. E.g.: Kernels would go in device specific development, and then ROMs/scripts that work for all devices would go in the general development forum.
The last thing I need to do is scour the ATT, Verizon, and Sprint development + their Original Development Forums to see if I can use any of their ROMs/Scripts, etc... 9 different development forums are too many!!
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Agree, I have no f-ing idea what the "Original Development" forums are even supposed to be... the description confused the hell out of me. As far as I'm concerned. A ROM is a ROM. Why do we need 2 threads for vaguely different types of ROM. Who the F cares? This is the first forum I've seen that makes this stupid distinction.
I agree with the other guy that this unnecessary forum should at least be made a subforum of the development forum... or at best deleted entirely.
I don't mind the combined discussion threads, though.

I agree with separating the carriers, but the two separate development sections for each carrier has been around for months. It was that way with the SGS2 and works fine. So, yeah, the only change i would like to see is to separate carriers.

i agree, we need a cleanup on aisle S3

If enough people post in this thread, maybe the mods will reconsider the overall setup of the forums for the GS3.

x_SCOS_x_ELITE said:
i agree, we need a cleanup on aisle S3
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Dude, that signature is bananas... it's taking up half the screen (which looks even crazier compared to your 1-line comment). Just sayin' :silly:

My suggestion that I brought up before to a mod.
"I have an idea that would help both mods and us xda user when it come to SGs3 forum. General and accesories can be left without carrier specific names. Then sprint, verizon, att&t, and t-mobile can have their own sub-forums with development, Q&A, and themes & apps.
Ex.
[Sprint]Gs3
- Dev
-Q&A
-Themes & Apps
And last the title of the Gs3 forum title should be changed to
"U.S Samsung Galaxy S3 variants ( Sprint, T-mobile, Verizon, & ATT&T)
With this two sub forums can be deleted that are present now since they'll be apart of the carrier variant sub forum."
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masaidjet said:
My suggestion that I brought up before to a mod.
"I have an idea that would help both mods and us xda user when it come to SGs3 forum. General and accesories can be left without carrier specific names. Then sprint, verizon, att&t, and t-mobile can have their own sub-forums with development, Q&A, and themes & apps.
Ex.
[Sprint]Gs3
- Dev
-Q&A
-Themes & Apps
And last the title of the Gs3 forum title should be changed to
"U.S Samsung Galaxy S3 variants ( Sprint, T-mobile, Verizon, & ATT&T)
With this two sub forums can be deleted that are present now since they'll be apart of the carrier variant sub forum."
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Seems like a reasonable plan. I hope the mods consider it.

Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​

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Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​
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Might as well just make entire different sections like they used to. Including their respective general sections.

I agree with the idea what the original dev forums should be subforums on the dev forums, but I totally understand what the mod's were going for in regards to having a general section for all carriers. I'm assuming the idea was that it would create more of a community if we were lumped into one general forum, versus all being isolated by carrier. I wonder, if it was split up by carrier, if we would have gotten as much help from non VZW dev's who have come over to show us support. There might be a better way to organize things, but I also like the idea of a more connected community of SGS3 users across carriers

The other solution is to keep the QA, Dev, etc forums, but instead have subforums for each carrier. This way solutions that worked for all carriers could be posted in the main forum for each section, with carrier specific solutions in the subforums.
Galaxy S III Development
T-Mobile Development
AT&T Development
Sprint Development
Verizon Development
[Below all these would be a forum for development that crossed over between carriers, not necessarily for ALL carriers, but if there's any crossover]​

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Sooo...
General Discussion
General Q&A
AT&T
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Sprint
Q&A
Development
Themes​
T-Mobile
Q&A
Development
Themes​
Verizon
Q&A
Development
Themes​
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Yea basically that's what I meant
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[Q] S4 questions please help

Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw autoroot root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you

duboisbrian said:
Hi all I'm new to android and have been reading a ton
But have a few question?
1. I have a bell s4 Smg-i337 with latest firmware (I believe moto chopper will not work)
But think cw 10.2 root method works
Am I correct or how can I root with latest firmware
2. If I install GE rom will it use less storage
(Right now Touchwiz only give my phone like 9.2gb but I read the GE editions s4 doesn't use up as much space)
So will flashing a rom free up space ?
3. Is removing bloat ware bad previously I would just freeze the app but I'm curious about removing it (I read somewhere that if u remove it it screws up ur phone for updates ?
Is that true?
That's all for now thank you
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Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.

Very sorry
Please delete thread
Thank you
Sorry

scott14719 said:
Please read the XDA forum rules.
Questions should be posted in the Q & A section...
However,
before questions are posted in the Q &A section, you should search for already posted answers and look at the "similar suggested links" that appeared while you were posting your question.
I suggest you do what I posted above and also (very important) read the "pinned" threads in the "General" section to help you learn more about your phone. Good luck.
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Ok, so you decided to only read the first part of what I said and make a duplicate thread in Q & A without reading the second part about searching and reading BEFORE posting in Q & A..you know, like the XDA rules state?
And for future reference, the little triangle in the top of your post can be used to notify the moderators that a thread needs to be moved to a different section. Making multiple posts is considered spamming.
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If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
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agent929 said:
If I may say without you getting all upset..
These questions attract people to this forum, especially through Google. More people = more knowledge, through questions and answers. If more people come here donations would increase in my opinion.
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I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.

scott14719 said:
I see what you are saying and there is no need to get upset, but the problem is that if these questions attract people to the forum, why didn't they attract people the first several times they were posted? The answer is because the people that are making these posts clearly didn't search or read in the first place or they would have seen that the question(s) have already been posted several times and they would have not felt the need to post the exact same question again. If these people were using Google to look for their answers here on XDA, they would be coming here to read about and learn about their issues (the links would show them the threads they need) but instead, they come here and post repetitive, already answered question. This tells me that they definitely are not searching in the first place. The Knowledge is already here and posting the same repetitive questions over and over again isn't increasing it. People aren't searching for it or reading about like they are supposed to (XDA rules). And those rules exist for a reason. 100 posts of the same question don't help anyone and slow down the overall usefulness of any forum. Donations are voluntary and, unless it is a bounty type of situation, are not anticipated. Any XDA developer will tell you that. And frankly, the people that don't take the time to search, read, and learn are not people that are giving donations to developers anyway.
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Alright that's fair. Never thought of that way. I try to donate when I can, but your definitely right about the donations.

I agree, it does attract people to the forum, but you do NOT need to post the issue in 2 threads, also, people get tired of seeing the same thing ask over and over, so read the rules of the site, because this is just plain shows laziness.

Its like if someone post something that has been said before and clutter the forum, it only makes the answered forum harder to search for because you have 1 answered forum against 30 unanswered cluttering up the forum pushing the 1 down and making it harder to find.
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