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can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
I've seen a tiny hint of this in my screen, but it hasn't bothered me. If it's severe in your phone, you may want to contact HTC.
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can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
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yes I notice this as well but I have to say that is only noticeable with backlight set to minimum, and i think it's a normal behaviour of an amoled screen. Now I have one question about the screen too:
When I'm watching pics or movies the screen has a very good resolution. For all the rest the screen seems a bit dotted and grainy, especially with text. For example in the app launcher where the app's names are written in white and the background is black the text is not extremely clear and if I take a closer look theres seems to be pink pixelss on the letter's edges. I can notice this thing almost evrywhere but I think it's a lot more clear to see with text and the backlight set to max. do you manage to see this too or do you think that's because i have a defective phone?
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the grainyness on thin objects like text is 100% normal, its just how these OLED displays work.
This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
aron7awol said:
This guy did some awesome research into the graininess issue using a macro lens on his camera. Really interesting stuff...
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html
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Eheh it's me that started that thread and i think that guy really did a great job trying to explain what's the problem... now i'm curious to know how many people notices this because till now it seemed that only me and that guy could see this "issue" so sometimes i'm still worried i have a faulty phone...it won't be a good thing since I'm from italy and getting a replacement phone wouldn't be very easy
My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
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My screen also appears reddish when i turn off the blacklighting in the clock app :\ maybe its defective?
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
coolbho3000 said:
No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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ok thanks, it's just reassuring to know that its not only my n1 experiencing this
Seen it slightly a few times. But never bothered me since I'm never in very low brightness that much.
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No, mine experiences the same thing. Seems like reds are more biased when less power is given to the LEDs (not exactly a "backlight"). This is slightly noticeable on the lowest brightness setting too.
And mine experiences the "black line" issue too. I guess it's just how OLED screens work.
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Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
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Red? Mine goes purple...or am I color blind?
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Yes it's more purple than pure red
miketlo said:
can you guys try this out and tell me if you see this on your screens. first turn down the brightness and go to a web page with lots off black text. on my screen everything black leaves a faint line across the screen wherever there is a black pixel from right to left. do you guys see this? out is much less noticeable when the brightness is turned up.
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Does it look like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628270
noticed today that on dark colors a thin gray border will appear all around the screen. it is quite annoying....and affects anything displayed on the atrix...well mine at least...and at least a few others too im sure...
i first noticed it with the menu buttons on opera mobile...thought it wad a design element but rather it is a display limitation.
attached is a darkish background downloaded from google images. view and zoom the picture to fill the entire screen. on my atrix the gray border is as clear as day...how bout for you guys?
edit: this isnt backlight bleed nor qhd compatibility issues...it is an actual thin gray line that appears on the screen.
Nope. Just you.
Sent from the coolest voided warranty phone ever.
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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Nope. Just you.
Sent from the coolest voided warranty phone ever.
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No. Its not just him. There was a thread about this before. I for one have the issue but don't notice it 99% of the time.
Sent from my Atrix running CM7
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thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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it isnt backlight bleed...it is an actual thin gray line that goes around the entire screen...but it only appears when theres a darkish color present at that location. when the background is pure 100pct black it doesnt show up though.
on my phone it is very apparent when viewing the attachment pic in the op and zooming in so that it fills the screen.
Well I'm glad to hear it's not just me. And yes, it's very noticeable and really distracting when I'm watching a video.
ethantarheels123 said:
thats because the atrix screen is not an led screen, it is a tft screen. the atrix screen illuminates from the edges around the screen while led screens such as amoleds from samsung illuminated from small diodes behind the screen. its brighter around the edges because it is being lit up from the sides.
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I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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I didn't have banding initially, but over time the problem seemed to become more apparent, especially after the gingerbread OTA.
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Likewise
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Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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datumdei said:
I had the same issue with my Atrix. Went to an AT&T device support center and they swapped it out with a brand new Atrix and the new device does not have this issue. It seems the banding/border issue is affecting a small number of those devices.
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how long did you own the atrix before you swapped it out? just wondering since this atrix is about half a year old now...
I just came here to ask about this... I've had my atrix for about 2 days and this is quite distracting.
I probably need to lock bootloader and unroot if I want to get a new phone right?
Here's a quick shot of it.
i just can see this bandings on ur photo with full brightness!
its not important! take it easy!
i think its because of LCD!
vinay427 said:
Same here. I've never noticed it before but now that I'm running the cm7 pre beta it's quite obvious.
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CM7 doesn't support qHD, might be why.
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Here's a quick shot of it.
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yes! that's the problem exactly...should spread that pic around so people are aware. look at the ghostly rectangle that is created...can see it clearly even on normal brightness. maybe you can find a non-affected atrix like datumdei did...
I would relate it to the gingerbread update. I didn't have it before in Froyo and I tried everything to replicate it, now I can also see it. They must've tune the colors, saturation and other settings because now I don't see the gradient banding in the calculator app and even the XDA app isn't that obvious anymore.
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taitrt said:
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Mine isn't that wide, only about 1/8th of an inch.
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Hey guys, i just got my Atrix yesterday and only notice this when the screen is grey. At first I thought it was screen burn-in from a static image, but after finding this page I feel better knowing its not just me.
Are there any other web pages that you have found related to this issue?
Also, could the android market update have caused this?
If you want to test to see if your phone is doing this, downlod dead pixel test from the android market and tap the screen until it turns grey.
I can finally leave limbo and get it in hand tomorrow.
And I heard so many "issues" about the phone,
so before I unlock bootloader and flash thing.
I wanna check the phone completely before risking the warranty
So what is the common "issues" right now?
What I know is:
1. Phone rattle
2. Yellow tint / Too warm display / Dead pixels
3. Buzzing sound
and what else?
Thanks
Appearantly "issue" number 2 (Yellow Tint) is only experienced if you update (OTA) once you receive your nexus. If you don't update you won't experience the yellow tint "issue".
A static noise when in a call, if the phone is super close to your ear you can hear it.
overhauling said:
Appearantly "issue" number 2 (Yellow Tint) is only experienced if you update (OTA) once you receive your nexus. If you don't update you won't experience the yellow tint "issue".
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It went from glue to software?
Hmmm, some people complain about the bottom of their device creaking. Like where the screws/usb port/microphone are. Mine does, but its only if I push on it. Holding it normally, there is no issue.
SefEXE said:
It went from glue to software?
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I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
overhauling said:
I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
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Still has nothing to do with software
AshtonTS said:
Still has nothing to do with software
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I would've said the same thing before seeing this:
tinky1 said:
http://db.tt/OQyLPrP8
Left - pre ota, right - Post ota. After quadrant they are in reverse. Forget about clarity, just look at the colours. Shot handheld with dslr, so a bit shaky.
Here's your proof that you can see with your eyes that it is ota.
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overhauling said:
I would've said the same thing before seeing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34652585#post34652585
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That doesn't even make sense.. I guess they changed the color calibrations in the OTA? Well whatever I just hope and pray that my nexus 4 doesn't have any of these issues.
Don't worry about the color too much. If it could be changed by an OTA then devs will come up with the perfect colors. Think Galaxy Nexus.
There is a small rattle around the camera area if you shake it. Honestly I don't find that a problem since I'm not shaking it constantly.
The buzzing in the earphone/headphone is a bigger problem but not annoying to me. I can't hear it when in calls or listening to music. It's only very pronounced when there is no sound coming out.
I still hope Google itself can have a better tune in the color temp.
About the yellow tint (dots), is it common or just a rare case?
Most likely a rare case, my phone currently has no issues with yellow spots on the screen
what about bleeding sceen i seen 2 spot on top of the screen when in dark room just reminded me of LG G2X.
overhauling said:
I'm sorry, not yellow tint. I meant the washed out colors issue (warm display). My bad!
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This is software, kernels are always able to adjust the color balancing and saturation etc once more custom kernels come out this problem will be addressed/fixed.
wngmv said:
There is a small rattle around the camera area if you shake it. Honestly I don't find that a problem since I'm not shaking it constantly.
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I've actually experienced this with every smartphone I've owned (Incredible, Droid Razr Maxx, HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus... jeez I've bought a lot of phones). The nexus 4 is no worse than any others.
chiensibut said:
what about bleeding sceen i seen 2 spot on top of the screen when in dark room just reminded me of LG G2X.
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You'll get that with any LCD really... if it's really bad you might want to see if they'll exchange it, otherwise there's a chance it will be worse if you get it replaced.
raptir said:
I've actually experienced this with every smartphone I've owned (Incredible, Droid Razr Maxx, HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus... jeez I've bought a lot of phones). The nexus 4 is no worse than any others.
You'll get that with any LCD really... if it's really bad you might want to see if they'll exchange it, otherwise there's a chance it will be worse if you get it replaced.
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Do you have any on your screen??
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After using for 2 days,
I finally notice yellow spot on the bottom left corner.
Also, the screen of the upper part is whiter than the bottom part.
I noticed this after I applied screen protector, damn....
chiensibut said:
Do you have any on your screen??
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Yeah, two small areas on the top of the screen where it just looks lighter than the rest. Not bad compared to most LCDs I've used.
Emama said:
After using for 2 days,
I finally notice yellow spot on the bottom left corner.
Also, the screen of the upper part is whiter than the bottom part.
I noticed this after I applied screen protector, damn....
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I actually had the same issue with two different One X's. The top of the screen was a little whiter while the bottom was a little yellower.
raptir said:
Yeah, two small areas on the top of the screen where it just looks lighter than the rest. Not bad compared to most LCDs I've used.
I actually had the same issue with two different One X's. The top of the screen was a little whiter while the bottom was a little yellower.
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Ya, i notice the whiter color in the second I turned it on.
I am okay with it. That's why I put my SP on it.
But the yellow spot is not...
So I just called for a replacement.
Dang...need to get one SP again
Another thing ( quite obvious ) are admittedly rare [ saw one user in reddit mentioning this] dust under the screen or noticeable dead pixels .
Also check to make sure there are no "bulges" around the sides of the phone where the black backing meets the front bezel. I have a small bulge near the bottom right side of the phone that looks like a little clip failed to engage. I have tried pushing it in to sit flush but it does nothing. I wasn't going to do anything about it since it's not that big of a deal but I called Play support and told the rep the issue. He said he has had a few reports of this problem and recommended an RMA. So I have a new one on the way.
Check this thread for pics of it happening to another guy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015676&page=2
Anyone else experiencing this??? It looks weird almost like it's a lag or something but it's not. It's like a legit pinkish type tint when scrolling. Am I gonna have to return my device ALREADY?!?! I literally just bought it 4 hrs ago -___-
EDIT: OK so I'm informed this is called "smearing" and that's the perfect word to describe it. Only happens in the settings, looks like the words are lagging behind my scroll and catch up lol. Is there a work around for it or something? Even though there shouldn't have to be but that'd be nice i I didn't hafta go through the process again of getting a new phone a day after I got this lol.
If you mean in the settings, that's normal. That's screen smearing/ghosting. Explanation is in this video here http://youtu.be/C_APG3kLiYs around 13:30.
The pink tint issue is another thing.
Stealyourface said:
If you mean in the settings, that's normal. That's screen smearing/ghosting. Explanation is in this video here http://youtu.be/C_APG3kLiYs around 13:30.
The pink tint issue is another thing.
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Yes, it only appears in the settings that it "smears" as you call it, yeah actually smearing is a way better word to describe it, not a different tint. Is it on every S4 that this is happening, or is it a defect in only a small % of S4's? And is there a workaround for it?
Also, what is the "pink tint issue"?
Thanks!
Joe0113 said:
Yes, it only appears in the settings that it "smears" as you call it, yeah actually smearing is a way better word to describe it, not a different tint. Is it on every S4 that this is happening, or is it a defect in only a small % of S4's? And is there a workaround for it?
Also, what is the "pink tint issue"?
Thanks!
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It's the software. I've heard of the pink tint but haven't read up on it. I heard the smashing affect is cleared up on the new update we might get but that could just be talk.
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Delakit said:
It's the software. I've heard of the pink tint but haven't read up on it. I heard the smashing affect is cleared up on the new update we might get but that could just be talk.
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Ok good. So I don't have to return my phone right?
Joe0113 said:
Yes, it only appears in the settings that it "smears" as you call it, yeah actually smearing is a way better word to describe it, not a different tint. Is it on every S4 that this is happening, or is it a defect in only a small % of S4's? And is there a workaround for it?
Also, what is the "pink tint issue"?
Thanks!
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Yes. Every S4. There is a work around. But it takes away from the screen by messing with the gamma. The pink tint issue is when part of your screen is darker than the other. Like my S4 is dark at the bottom and gets lighter as it goes up like a gradient. Like this picture http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg or this http://i.imgur.com/DhryGwg.png
It's more noticeable on grey screens.
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Yes. Every S4. There is a work around. But it takes away from the screen by messing with the gamma. The pink tint issue is when part of your screen is darker than the other. Like my S4 is dark at the bottom and gets lighter as it goes up like a gradient. Like this picture http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg or this http://i.imgur.com/DhryGwg.png
It's more noticeable on grey screens.
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Actually now that I see it. I notice it on every settings menu with a dark interface. Doesn't happen on lighter screens, only the black screens really.
Joe0113 said:
Actually now that I see it. I notice it on every settings menu with a dark interface. Doesn't happen on lighter screens, only the black screens really.
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The smearing will only happen in dark settings yes. It has to do with unused pixels. Like the video I posted before explains. If you don't have a pink gradient issue then you're all good. If it does I'd get it exchanged asap before you're stuck with it like me.
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The smearing will only happen in dark settings yes. It has to do with unused pixels. Like the video I posted before explains. If you don't have a pink gradient issue then you're all good. If it does I'd get it exchanged asap before you're stuck with it like me.
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Is there a test to do to see if I have the gradient issue?
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Is there a test to do to see if I have the gradient issue?
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Look at a solid dark grey background. If its darker on one side that's bad. I noticed mine when I was texting everytime I pulled the keyboard up the text bubbles changed colors a bit.
My Z5p suffers from backlight bleed, mostly from the top. It is something I could live with, until I noticed something terrible during its "Optimizing apps" when it was rebooting. I could see a white light coming from under the top bezel. It is only visible from a certain angle and can not be seen when looking at the screen directly. I tested this afterwards on every background and picture I had, still visible. I immediately sent it for service.
The latest report said that they could not replicate the issue, so I sent them a sh*tload of pictures showing the problem. They still have not answered. I will keep updating this thread until this issue has been resolved.
Sorry for the bad quality on the pictures, taken with my sh*tty camera on Oneplus One
KbaB.BroS said:
My Z5p suffers from backlight bleed, mostly from the top. It is something I could live with, until I noticed something terrible during its "Optimizing apps" when it was rebooting. I could see a white light coming from under the top bezel. It is only visible from a certain angle and can not be seen when looking at the screen directly. I tested this afterwards on every background and picture I had, still visible. I immediately sent it for service.
The latest report said that they could not replicate the issue, so I sent them a sh*tload of pictures showing the problem. They still have not answered. I will keep updating this thread until this issue has been resolved.
Sorry for the bad quality on the pictures, taken with my sh*tty camera on Oneplus One
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It's LCD, it's bound to have it.. only other option is amoled
pham077 said:
It's LCD, it's bound to have it.. only other option is amoled
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All the phones I still have and had is LCD, not one of them has/had this amount of bleeding like my Z5p, not even my Oneplus One (does not have it at all) with its sh*tty quality control they had when I bought it (August 2014). If you had read more thorough, the first thing I stated before was that I could live with backlight bleed, but not when I noticed the white light coming from beneath the bezel.
I don't think thats particularly bad.... check out my Surface Pro 4 screen bleed.
http://imgur.com/Z2S58oL (obviously different panel however much more noticeable effect.)
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I don't think thats particularly bad.... check out my Surface Pro 4 screen bleed.
http://imgur.com/Z2S58oL (obviously different panel however much more noticeable effect.)
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Your backlight bleed seems to be much worse when looking at the screen head on. Have you tried tilting the device and checked to see if the bleed comes from beneath the bezel deeper inside? It is a white light on full brightness no matter what brightness the phone is on. It reminds me of when the bezel of a phone shatters and light constantly shines through the cracks.
It's nothing new to me, my Xperia S and Z1 have the same issue since day one.
masterv1 said:
It's nothing new to me, my Xperia S and Z1 have the same issue since day one.
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Even the white light you can see beneath the bezel?
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Even the white light you can see beneath the bezel?
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Yes, it's because the backlight doesn't shut off when you get in standby mode.
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Yes, it's because the backlight doesn't shut off when you get in standby mode.
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Sounds like a problem that should be fixed if you ask me