Hooking up Nexus 4 to At&t? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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ajoerivera said:
So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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If you are going regular ATT you will have to give them another phone IMEI. I have seen the S3 mentioned but I don't know which would be best. If you are going to ATT through Straight Talk you will not need to do this.

ajoerivera said:
So I'm coming from sprint so pretty much anything GSM is new to me. I'm sure it's not rocket science buy it is new to me. one of my main concerns is I've been going through different forums and it's a little confusing on whether i need to create a bs imei from an Atrix 4g to get the correct plan or is it going to be a hassle. Also if anyone is from NYC and has this phone what's your APN settings. I know didn't users are getting different results but I trying to make this a easy switch. Thanks
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Yes, if you want the best speeds for your nexus you'll have to convince them to change your imei number to an lte device. And then you'll have the highest possible speeds on your device as long as you add the right apn settings. You should be good.

Go here and do exactly what I posted
Post #2 has all the info you need. Don't question it, just do it!

Mods please close this thread this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034841 is way more helpful if anyone is having this issue
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So I will get hspa+ highest speed internet possible with att straight talk?

magicriggs said:
So I will get hspa+ highest speed internet possible with att straight talk?
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You would get higher speeds on T-Mobile's side, though AT&T would have better coverage.
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Should I switch from tmobile to att for atrix?

Hi I currently have the new g2x from tmobile and will probably be returning it today.(too many issues). The only other phone I want is the atrix so I'm thinking of canceling my tmo service and buying the atrix. Do you guys think it is worth it. I'll be paying about $10 more a month. How does every one like the atrix and att. Or maybe a comparison between att and tmo if someone has had both.
Thank you.
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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Get it Unlocked
I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked. Try to go down that route if you have the resources to buy it outright. Otherwise, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix. The upcoming gingerbread update in the summer is only going to make it better. They've already ironed out most of the issues of early adopters with the new 4.1.83 update. The full power of this phone is yet to be unleashed.
i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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Bootloader is still locked. You can root and "mod" it, but currently the bootloader is still locked down...
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Also T-Mo has the better network. I'm sure you get better D/L speeds over there...
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Thanks for the replies that was fast. Tmobile kinda sucks where I'm at. I work on an island where I get pretty spotty service and I live 200 feet from a cell tower where I get great reception but by supposed 4g speeds are 800k max which its pretty lame.
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Also do you think we will ever see an unlocked bootloader?
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Considering this is Motorola, no. Wait for the Galaxy S2.
I don't really like samsung phones. And I actually like motoblur. I also really likethe idea of the 2 docks. I saw that people have ubuntu running on these phones does that work with the docks? I also dint have the cash to buy it out right.
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konflikt1911 said:
i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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What a run on sentence, not a single period in that whole statement.
But on topic,
If you can return the phone and terminate service with no cost, then do it. But if you are to far into your contract and you are facing a termination fee, I would try to find a Atrix on craigslist or a trade and sell cell phone store. Yes the bootloader is locked, but there is people hard at work trying to find a solution. Yes you could wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but there is no guarantee it will be a better phone.
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I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked.
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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I was also wondering this. And I will have to pay an early cancellation fee but with the g2x I got a partial upgrade and ended up paying $400 with a $50 rebate. it will cost me $200 to cancel service and,$99 for the atrix through radioshack.But the g2x is not great too many bugs and tons of backlight bleed not worth the $350 I payed with a contract extension.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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I do not know anyone with att but I think I'm gong to return this phone tonight and pick up an atrix and try out att. Hoping its better than tmobile here.
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i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
knv8 said:
i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
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I literally live 200 ft from a tower that seems to have every carrier up there. Everyone that comes to my house has full service. And e what kind of employer discounts are you taking about? I an self employed.
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I left Tmo on 04/10/11 for ATT. So far, so good. Love the Atrix since .83. Atrix is a suitable phone if you want android. iPhone is fine too. I'm still within the 30 grace period and I'm deciding to go with ATT for my mobile carrier.
My mom loves the the free mobile to mobile (no minutes used regardless of carrier).
I'm converting and I have no qualms. Haven't had any dropped calls (yet). I'd say go for ATT.
keep your g2x stay with tmo. its basically the same phone just a lg body instead of motorola. my buddy has the g2x. plus by next year all the networks tmo and att have will be shared and there will be new phones out. get your handset replaced if your having issues it may be hardware lemon. the atrix has its issues too no phone is without issues. youd just be trading one tegra based device for another and getting a slower network that costs more
The problem is the screen bleed on the g2x I've looked at several devices and they all have it. And our makes the screen look like crap. plus I've been missing way too many calls at work because bad reception. And I really want a tegra 2 over the other dual core processors.
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Verizon Nexus users, I have a few questions about service etc.

Im going to be coming from Sprint to possibly verizon. I was wondering a few things
1. How is the service? I get BAD 3g speeds ( around .5mb ) and 4g is decent whenever I can get it ( 5mb or so ). Whats their average 3g and 4g speeds?
2. What about phones? Im coming from the Evo and its still considered a top contender with the new phones that are out there now. I dont want an iphone, Id like to stay android. Any phones out there that are pretty good? How is the nexus? Anything better? Anything worth waiting for?
Any and all help is appreciated.
Wrong forum
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which one is for the verizon version?
mroneeyedboh said:
which one is for the verizon version?
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There is no Nexus S for Verizon's network. I think you meant to post in the Galaxy Nexus General Forum lol

AT&T?

So I'm currently using the Motorola Atrix on AT&T and I will be selling it for the N4. I was just wondering if I will have any problems using it with at&t or something. My contract ends in 5 months and I will be going prepaid after that. Thanks.
No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat
I wonder if it will work on Medianet, or if At&t will flag them all right away.
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No problems, other than you won't have LTE. You have to set the APN manually as well, before data works. But calling works right off the bat
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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).
You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)
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I would be surprised if Google didn't add AT&T's APN by default. Surely you aren't correct about this (not that it matters).
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he is...
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You will also need to pay $27 to get your sim changed to a micro sim... (EVEN if you buy it before hand...)
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Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
kiy0shix24 said:
Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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When I switched from the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus they gave me the new SIM for free.
kiy0shix24 said:
Really? Dang I thought they would give it for free
Also, I will also be upgrading from the atrix to the nexus 4 too.
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They will replace your SIM for free if you go to an official AT&T store. If you go to an "AT&T Authorized Retailer", then they may or may not do it for free.
Go here: http://www.att.com/storelocator/
Look at locations near you, and go to one that says "AT&T" and not one that says "AT&T Authorized Retailer", and you should be good.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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lol yeah okay because I'm sure T-Mobile's HSPA+ will defiantly get you 42Mbps all the time. Those are theoretical speeds... HSPA+ is HSPA+
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Lucke said:
really? this has to be the dumbest question ever. maybe some people, like me, are locked into a contract. maybe some people, like me, don't want to lose the "unlimited data". maybe some people actually get better reception for phone calls with AT&T in their area.
did you ever stop to think about some basic things like this before you just spouted off nonsense? yeah... didn't think so.
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E-X-A-C-T-L-Y. I am on AT&T too, and yup. On a contract, I have unlimited data, and my area gets pretty decent-great reception, so HSPA+ even at 21Mbps will do me well. And the point that it is unlocked, and it being a high spec phone for 299-349 $ blows my mind. Selling my S3 for this! I don't even have LTE in my area, so its al good! Gotta love a nexus! Pure Vanilla Android at its best.
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why would anyone would use this phone on att instead of t-mobile ? att hspa+ is so slow its not even funny ...
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Many places, Tmo service simply does not work. I know of three people in last year who returned Tmo phones because they couldn't make calls from their house. It's great if they have the coverage, but...
Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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geoldr said:
Yes if you go to a att store they should give you one for free. They gave me one when I bought the gs3 off contract. He just asked if I needed a sim I said sure and it was quick and free.
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^ this is good info. I just called the att STORE down the road and they said just come in and they will give it to me free.
The deal is, I'm a paying customer. They don't give a shyte about anything else. Especially when Someone like me can just change to straight talk and walk away..
This aint my first rodeo.

Anyone Running Their Nexus 4 On AT&T MediaNet?

I've been running phones on medianet unlimited for over 7 years now. In the past I saw threads where the original Nexus and Nexus S were detected by AT&T and were forced to use smartphone plans. Before purchasing this phone I wanted to check if this version of the Nexus was also detected as a smartphone. I've been using an international galaxy Note for a year on the $10 medianet plan and was hoping the Nexus 4 could also work on medianet.
Thanks
No, sorry
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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I think the question is not in th APN used, but if AT&T recognizes IMEI number as smartphone - if it does, it will force data plan on you.
I've been usin Nokia phones for several years across the family and haven't paid more than $10/month for unlimited internet...
Wonder if the same trick will work with Nexus 4...
Anyone n the know - could you please post?
when I get my N4, I plan on switching to medianet $15/month unlimited data. Hopefully they wont recognize the IMEI
Medianet plan does not work with nexus 4..just came from att store..and rep put medianet plan for me..but when i got home..i recived text from att that i have smartphone.
Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
pbpatel1981 said:
i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
pbpatel1981 said:
you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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It is, you can find it by going to settings>about phone>status and look under mobile network type.
If your connection is idle it will say HSPA:10 but fire up Pandora or any music service and check, it will say HSPA:15
Just ordered the gn4 for the gf, hopefully the dumb phone data plan will still work for it
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
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Thanks for the info about calling customer service! What do you usually tell them? I just got flagged on my gnex and will getting my nexus 4 soon. Should I say something along the lines of "I don't have a smart phone."
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Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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AT&T doesn't seem to know this phone's a smartphone. When I switched my SIM from my Nexus One to the Nexus 4, my 2GB DataPro plan was removed and changed to whatever their dumbphone unlimtied plan was.
It was a pain in ass to get them to switch it back to a 2GB DataPro w/ LTE plan. Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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I didn't hear that MEdiaNet was throttled, but I did experience something similar to your situation. While on "wap.cingular", Speedtest.net would act strange(9kbps downstream, ~1mbit up). I went to the store and got a new MicroSIM I couldn't get anything faster than 1Mbit. I called in, told them the Nexus 4 was an LTE phone so I could get provisioned for the HSPA+ APN's. They told me to power cycle (I just switched APN's from "wap.cingular" to "pta"), and I immediately saw 3Mbit.
So given this, I can only deduce that whatever plan I was provisioned for when I was taken off my 2GB DataPro was capped at 1Mbit. Given your findings, I'm concluding that anyone that had 3G service(MEdiaNet) before they rolled out HSPA+/LTEhad an unthrottled 3G service and anyone that gets it today gets throttled("Featurephone Data").
Also, the fact your Speedtest.net app is acting funny is usually a sign you're on the gimped plan that I got auto-switched to("Featurephone Data").
I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
Tbh, I don't really care for this thread. I can see that I'm getting HSPA+:15 when I use cellular data, and my transfer speeds are as good as they were with my old phone. I'm only paying $10 for almost 3G (US 3G is the worst 3G...), and ~400KB/s is fast enough for my usage. I can even streaming HD Netflix; I don't, but it's a good benchmark.
Also, the MediaNET plans are not monitored for consumption at all, so I have a true unlimited plan. When I first moved into a new apartment last October, Comcast was being stupid and couldn't get me internet for 3 weeks. I tethered for myself, my roommate, and all of our many daily guests. >10GB down during that time, at least 2GB up, and not a word from AT&T. Until AT&T gets a Nexus 4 variant, I'm not worried about my IMEI being recognized as a smartphone and automatically jacked up to an overpriced 2GB plan with faster speeds but marginal real-world benefit.
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I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
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There's something we can wholeheartedly agree on. AT&T, y u so evil?

ATT Note guys maybe you got last laught :)

Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!
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Wife and I got a Note 3 each. Mines on T mob and hers is on ATT networks. She consistently get more signal strength than I do. Both units are on ATT. Apps show mine as approx -111 db and hers as -107db . Signal strength bars wise, she has two and I have one or zero mostly, and thats outside!
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I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!
This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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drmacrofish said:
This is one of the main things that concerns me about running t mobile version on ATT. It may technically work, but is it optimized for their network? I would like the fully unlocked bootloader, but not at the expense of phone funtionality.
And to that end, does visual voicemail work with the T Mobile phone? Just curious.
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You mention the word "optimized" in vocabulary this means nothing until now. So perhaps, you have a point. We shall see. Generally speaking I go by whatis on the "box" if frequency is the same and then some then its good to go. I guess we shall see....:good:
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I can't help you, sorry, but I have been following your posts for several days so I am subscribing to see what you are able to find out. Good luck buddy!
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Please do. I don't mind sacrificing my self for the majority LOL. Too many variables as my unit maybe within certain tolerences of Sam"soog". Hence why I posted here.
You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
This should be expected, until maybe both phones using the same exact modem. At that point the comparison should be closer but even if you had purchased 2 att n3 and 1 was made from date xx/xx/xx and 2 xx/xx/xx the results might still vary.
Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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Also the csc stuff that happens on first boot seems to be relevant for data speed.. don't give up your hopes yet
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What about radio? I dont have the T mob device only att but is it the same radio?
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I have had similar experience to the OP in the pass with an HTC HD2 and that was the last time I bought a Tmobile phone to use on AT&T. AT the time what I experienced was AT&T given data priority to their own phones vs. imported or other network phones. According to the 3rd level tech I spoke with during my issues, If you bring a non-AT&T IMEI on their network, they will give it the lowest priority on their network. The device will work but it won't work as good as the AT&T device. The device show up on your account as a unknown phone. It was true back then I am not sure if it is true now. But given the circumstances with the lock bootloader, I would not surprise if AT&T was up to the same old trick but using the different technology or methods.
Keep in mind AT&T has nothing to lose by making sure their phones perform much better on their network. The Note 3 just hit market and the truth will come out soon or later. At this point I am going to stick with AT&T Note 3 and wait for the dust to settle a bit.
KosanRio said:
You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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Agreed. My tests thus far are amatuerish at the best, we'll see...
KosanRio said:
You might wanna do a more proper test than just "Outside"
I'm talking both phones in the exact same spot.
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I'm assuming he's with his wife and not at some gentleman's club
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Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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Limeybastard said:
Ran same more amateur radio testing side by side with wife's note 3. This time it was in the bedroom. LOL. Her db figures were higher slightly but showed two bars where as mine showed one bar.
I'm thinking the AT&T phone is set to display signal better.
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you are correct. the at&t displays a better signal when in reality, the differences between the two versions are insignificant.
I remember comparing the htc one developer edition to the at&t htc one and observing similar conclusions.
You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?
I'm not sure how it's prioritized. But it would be in times of congestion. I can't explain how he gets less service than his wife.
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Lets not forget that AT&T fakes signal as well. Its been known when you run an AT&T ROM over a 3rd party ROM. Just some food for thought.
It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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agent929 said:
It may fake the bars but it can't fake the dB. That's the issue with the OP.
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Completely agree there
agent929 said:
You are definitely right about priority on the network. That is still true today.
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If that is still the case then I will need a much better case to go out and buy other network phones to use on AT&T's network. My experience was pretty bad with the HTC HD2 during that time.
snovvman said:
By priority, I presume you guys mean when there is congestion?
With all those who are running T-Mo on ATT, I presume this would become prevalent during peak times or heavy congestion?
I think a good test would be a side-by-side ATT/T-Mo during peak hours to see if the ATT gets faster data...
At the same time, the SIM is an ATT SIM, which is an ATT account. I just wonder how the switch makes the decisions if in fact it prioritizes: Is it based on hardware IMEI or foreign accounts (roaming)?
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I believe one of the triggers was the IMEI because AT&T already have database of all the AT&T IMEI. When your IMEI does not match on their database, they normally don't know what kind of device you have. Essentially the network look at you as a step child and put you in the not an AT&T device bucket. I would presume if would definitely take effect during peak congestion time but I think it also play a role in other scenarios too. Again I am speculating on these scenarios but I recall my experience was not good. This was around the time where we did not have any LTE available. Either way, time will tell how they foreign devices with LTE on their network.

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