[Q] Google (play) Music and Piracy - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?

You'll be fine.
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have a few songs on there for quite some time now and no issues so far?

I've uploaded my entire music collection to both Google Music AND the Amazon Cloud Player and I'm sure there some pirated albums in there.. but nothing has been deleted and no police have smashed my doors in.
You'll be fine. The Google service is very good too - the tag editing is much better than Amazon's for example. I no longer need a PC to manage my music. I have a 16GB N4 and I created an "Essentials" playlist on Google Music containing my absolute favourite songs and I've made that permanent on the phone - so it downloaded all the songs automatically. And it's pretty sweet having access to your entire collection via a decent connection.

.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.

tweaked said:
.....how would they even no ? Its not like you labeled them; song1 album6 stolen from artist 2. Lol
This is a question my parents would ask..I find it naive.
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Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.

I've looked around for posts like this with no luck and nothing on Google search as well. I am sure many people have lots of pirated music on there and I haven't heard of any issues whatsoever which is a good sign. Or they're waiting and lulling us into a false sense of confidence before screwing us all haha
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Me: Ummm I downloaded Britney Spears illegally....
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NabeShogun said:
Well there are all sorts of data points they could compare, the easiest being to compare file size and the MD5 hash of known rips (although the latter is easily changed) but I presume they would use several different factors and maybe use some sort of spectral analysis and check any watermarks.
In fact youtube already does things along these lines.
I doubt they would catch on to CDs ripped by individual people, but for example, tracks from a popular torrent would be fairly simple to identify especially once vast numbers of people start uploading the exact same files, which don't correlate to a legitimate source.
It would be quite easy for google to compile a lists of things that were definitely pirated, and definitely legitimate. If you were in between you'd probably be fine too, but anything taken from a popular torrent i'd imagine would definitely fall into a blacklist.
There would be various ways around this, if necessary I'm sure someone will make an application to go through an subtly alter elements of your music collection to ensure it wouldn't match any database of known rips, maybe by inserting small silences (even if just a fraction of a second) at the beginning or end of tracks and changing a number of other attributes that wouldn't affect playback.
So yeah not naive at all, you just clearly didn't think about it enough.
It all comes down to if Google is bothering / cares and what action they intend to take if they do find material which obviously comes from a pirated source. As I mentioned if they just remove it - no problem could either circumvent their checks or purchase the missing songs, but if they may have to (even if not now but at a later date) give out the credentials of anyone whom they have found with pirated material that could be a problem.
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Just because your file matches the common torrent files doesn't mean it actually is the common torrent file. If two people rip and verify with AccurateRip the files -should- be identical.

NabeShogun said:
Tried to find a relevent thread to put this under but they mainly seem to be about apks and under different phone discussions ...
So what with USB OTG looking unlikely (at least for the meantime, but maybe forever) for the Nexus 4 and no SD card slot I find myself in the position of sort of being strongarmed into using Google Music.
My question here is about pirated music. I'm sure my collection (alike to most peoples) isn't entirely free of this, and if it counts the CD's I converted into mp3s when I first bought an mp3 player then it definitely isn't.
So I have no problem if google music deletes anything that it doesn't deem legit, that's cool. I'm not however cool with them then notifying sony or something and a million dollar (pound) lawsuit then being dropped on me ... I've been doing some googling but haven't really found much of a discussion about this.
Anyone got 2 cents to add in? Is it safe to upload everything to google music and then let them sort it out?
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They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.

kzoodroid said:
They don't know what is legit or not it just uploads whatever is in your music collection. Don't ask me how I know I just do.
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Google employee in flimsy disguise? Haha
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Google is not the police. Google would make no money scaring people away by prosecuting people with files they may or may not know are illegal.
If a company wanted to invest a LOT of money in legal fees to somehow make a court force Google to release our private files so that said company can scan them for watermarks etc. you might be at risk, but I very much doubt an outside company could get the power to do that.

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Any new information about this since way back when this thread was? I know someone who isn't me that wants to use google play music, but they may or may not have some questionable music files. Is it cool to upload it?

It's fine. I use play music all the time and my collection isn't fully legit.
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April 4 2014: Google Patents a Way to Keep Pirated Content off of Google Play
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/04/google-patents-way-to-keep-pirated-content-off-of-play/

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$50 Media Hub credit for those who ordered prior to 10/31!!!

http://forum.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/44376-free-50-media-hub-credit-epic-users.html
I confirm that it works.
Mediahub blows. I tried it once and bought a Tosh.O episode and midway through the encoding on the video was jacked up. Picture went unviewable and the player stopped. I was forced to hunt and peck on the timeline to resume after the botched section of the video.
Never touched it again after that. Besides, content is overpriced.
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Thanks OP.
styckx said:
Besides, content is overpriced.
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This simply confirms my theory that you can give every body gold bars and some people will still complain that they didn't get silver or platinum.
I have my code and it's a nice way to get folks to try out the features. Perfect for a plane ride, or better yet, a delay.
Thank you OP. I was a little pissed that I couldn't get my $50 when I heard about this promotion. I don't care if the content is crappy, it should pass by slow nights on IT call.
Good luck with mediahub, folks.
With bittorrent, any price above $0 for broadcast entertainment is overpriced, to me. I get all -- 100% -- of my TV via bittorrent downloads, and virtually always available before anything shows on commercial pay-for-media methods.
Now, with bittorrent clients available for android itself, you can eliminate the step of having to first download to your PC, then transfer to your phone. Just as convenient as MediaHub.
In fact, even more so. Set up an RSS feed from EZTV, PBay, or other torrent aggregators, and you're phone will grab your favorite show as soon as the torrent is available -- again, usually within a few hours of airing.
Finally, with tasker you can set things up to only download when there is a wifi connection, saving you from on-air data charges.
That's how I've got all this set up -- I see no reason to use MediaHub at all.
Was there suppose to be a phonecall or jsut a text message?cause I got some call which I missed from an 866 number >.> was that it?
dwallersv said:
Good luck with mediahub, folks.
With bittorrent, any price above $0 for broadcast entertainment is overpriced, to me. I get all -- 100% -- of my TV via bittorrent downloads, and virtually always available before anything shows on commercial pay-for-media methods.
Now, with bittorrent clients available for android itself, you can eliminate the step of having to first download to your PC, then transfer to your phone. Just as convenient as MediaHub.
In fact, even more so. Set up an RSS feed from EZTV, PBay, or other torrent aggregators, and you're phone will grab your favorite show as soon as the torrent is available -- again, usually within a few hours of airing.
Finally, with tasker you can set things up to only download when there is a wifi connection, saving you from on-air data charges.
That's how I've got all this set up -- I see no reason to use MediaHub at all.
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Except what your doing is illegal and should nyo be discussed on this forum?
Ads = profit for companies and payment for actors = incentive for them to make more stuff.
I'll pay for media, though I am not against downloading somethings. But non the less cheap bastards DO ruin industries. "Oh its just me and my $10 bucks, they won't miss it" Eventually with enough people it adds up and they will miss it. Not to mention I personally know people who have had homes raided by FBI over stuff like that.
gTen said:
Was there suppose to be a phonecall or jsut a text message?cause I got some call which I missed from an 866 number >.> was that it?
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No - no calls.
I emailed them my name and phone number (to verify my purchase), they emailed me the code a few days later.
how d idyou get mediahub to work? i cant get it to recognize my zip code
styckx said:
Mediahub blows. I tried it once and bought a Tosh.O episode and midway through the encoding on the video was jacked up. Picture went unviewable and the player stopped. I was forced to hunt and peck on the timeline to resume after the botched section of the video.
Never touched it again after that. Besides, content is overpriced.
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Agree content is absurdly overpriced, still I sold two of my free $50 codes for $20 a piece, $40 in my pocket for 5 minutes work.
dwallersv said:
Good luck with mediahub, folks.
With bittorrent, any price above $0 for broadcast entertainment is overpriced, to me. I get all -- 100% -- of my TV via bittorrent downloads, and virtually always available before anything shows on commercial pay-for-media methods.
Now, with bittorrent clients available for android itself, you can eliminate the step of having to first download to your PC, then transfer to your phone. Just as convenient as MediaHub.
In fact, even more so. Set up an RSS feed from EZTV, PBay, or other torrent aggregators, and you're phone will grab your favorite show as soon as the torrent is available -- again, usually within a few hours of airing.
Finally, with tasker you can set things up to only download when there is a wifi connection, saving you from on-air data charges.
That's how I've got all this set up -- I see no reason to use MediaHub at all.
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whoa this guy is so cool he is a rebel!!!!!111
So did anyone get this to work who bought an epic before oct 31? I bought 3 epics in october and this would be awesome.
cnuckols1 said:
So did anyone get this to work who bought an epic before oct 31? I bought 3 epics in october and this would be awesome.
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I bought mine launch day and it worked for me, got my code in email today.
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AndrewZorn said:
whoa this guy is so cool he is a rebel!!!!!111
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You bet, Homer!
gTen said:
Except what your doing is illegal and should nyo(sic) be discussed on this forum?
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Ill have you know sir, that downloading TV shows online, through whatever medium, is not considered illegal filesharing. A judge ruled that sharing TV shows over the internet is the same as giving someone a VHS tape back in the day. It is not illegal and can be distributed anyway the people who record it please. Be it hard mediums or digital. Now, if one were to say download a DVD copy, THAT would be copyright infringement, but we are talking about downloading 0 day shows from EZTV - which is perfectly well within your right to do.
Xaeonis said:
Ill have you know sir, that downloading TV shows online, through whatever medium, is not considered illegal filesharing. A judge ruled that sharing TV shows over the internet is the same as giving someone a VHS tape back in the day. It is not illegal and can be distributed anyway the people who record it please. Be it hard mediums or digital. Now, if one were to say download a DVD copy, THAT would be copyright infringement, but we are talking about downloading 0 day shows from EZTV - which is perfectly well within your right to do.
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Can you provide us with the source for the ruling? I have followed this issue for a long time but never heard of such ruling.
How about uploading TV shows, which is what torrent does? Isn't it illegal to upload files, if you don't have copyrights?
Xaeonis said:
Ill have you know sir, that downloading TV shows online, through whatever medium, is not considered illegal filesharing. A judge ruled that sharing TV shows over the internet is the same as giving someone a VHS tape back in the day. It is not illegal and can be distributed anyway the people who record it please. Be it hard mediums or digital. Now, if one were to say download a DVD copy, THAT would be copyright infringement, but we are talking about downloading 0 day shows from EZTV - which is perfectly well within your right to do.
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In this case he was talking about movies..which is 100% illegal..
That said I'd like to hear your source..only place I heard similar to what you said was ruled in Canada..not the USA..can you link to it?
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In this case he was talking about movies..which is 100% illegal..
That said I'd like to hear your source..only place I heard similar to what you said was ruled in Canada..not the USA..can you link to it?
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I would also like to know
cnuckols1 said:
So did anyone get this to work who bought an epic before oct 31? I bought 3 epics in october and this would be awesome.
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I got my three on launch day, no problems getting 3 credits.

[Q] Vcast music license

Anyone know exactly where the licenses are saved for vcast music purchases? I don't want to lose them again and have to go through the process of going through verizon to get them back. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Simple, only partially helpful answer: don't buy music through vcast. Thee are tons of other, mostly DRM-free options out there.
The fact that you're in fear of losing said licenses is a pretty good indicator.
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AlexDeGruven said:
Simple, only partially helpful answer: don't buy music through vcast. Thee are tons of other, mostly DRM-free options out there.
The fact that you're in fear of losing said licenses is a pretty good indicator.
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yeah I know, vcast is a pain, I'm talking about the purchases I already have. I usually use itunes...now
there's a bunch of free music download apps on the market if you ever decide to go the free route, but i'm sensing you're a music nut that wants the high bitrate versions.
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there's a bunch of free music download apps on the market if you ever decide to go the free route, but i'm sensing you're a music nut that wants the high bitrate versions.
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I don't know if thats a compliment or insult, so I will say thanks and HOW DARE YOU! Haha, anyway, yes, I like my high quality music. My phone is my ipod.

Movies on Xoom

Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!
I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.
Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.
Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player
JOHNGAETANO said:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.
#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.
Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.
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Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.

Google Now - spoken responses

So I've seen these videos online where Google Now answers pretty much any questions you throw at it (youtube vid 40+ questions or something).
The issue is all my google now seems to do when I ask it something is simply do a google search and show the results as if I had typed it =/, no cards, no voice just a plain old google search.
Is this normal for the UK version or something?
Is there some region issue where only US customers get proper google now functionality?
Not that this would surprise me based on the situation with magazines, play movies and play music.
No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......
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So I've seen these videos online where Google Now answers pretty much any questions you throw at it (youtube vid 40+ questions or something).
The issue is all my google now seems to do when I ask it something is simply do a google search and show the results as if I had typed it =/, no cards, no voice just a plain old google search.
Is this normal for the UK version or something?
Is there some region issue where only US customers get proper google now functionality?
Not that this would surprise me based on the situation with magazines, play movies and play music.
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Check and see in Google now settings and make sure you are set for English Us.
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It doesn't speak responses for everything. For example, it'll tell you who the president is but not who the current state senator. Try the weather, sports or ask the humidity etc.
CrazyPeter said:
No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......
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Oh no I don't blame Google and no way hate them, I love Google and Android lol. Now apple that's another thing them, I hate lol.
OK thanks I changed language to English US hopefully that will help just seemed strange the way it only seemed to doing regular Google searches.
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I've had to ask mine a question 2 or 3 times for a card to turn up, rather than a Google search. (It does understand me each time as well)
If you use Google Chrome and sign into it with your Google account. Anything you type and search in Chrome is available for GNow to use. Really helps with cards and responding.
I dunno, mine is pretty spot on. I load it up, say "Google", it listens, converts to text really accurately, and gives me spot on answers. The only thing I hear her say is "Calling".
Yea I remember it speaking more then it does.
Is there a way to teach it "Call home" and use GrooveIP to dial? All I get is "this device can not perform that action". Doesn't seem to respond to "Open GrooveIP"... thought it opened apps.
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Is there a way to teach it "Call home" and use GrooveIP to dial? All I get is "this device can not perform that action". Doesn't seem to respond to "Open GrooveIP"... thought it opened apps.
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I don't think it opens apps... tho that should be a standard android feature before too long, if we think about it.
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I can have this with language set to English UK.
Make sure you have g-now enabled, open g-now>settings>Google now> On(top right)
Try asking it something simple like 'what's the whether?'
Also note that currently it does not seem to work with UK sports.
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No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......
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Magazines and music is not available outside the US. Just books and movies for us.......
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Remove iTunes DRM for use with S4

Can anyone recommend a good free converter that will change my .m4p files to mp3 for use with my S4 / other devices. I hate restrictions on the stuff I PAID for. Looks like I may have just installed a faulty program trying to search myself. Any help would be appreciated
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I haven't worked with m4p files in a LONG time, but back when I was in college, I used to make "CDs" out of them with an old application that made sort of an iso of the CD format, and just ripped in back into mp3 format. Ended up create a small script that would do that for a list of songs. I'm pretty sure someone has created an app to do that by now. If all else fails, you can go at it the old fashion way - burn and rip.
I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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Thermalwolf said:
I think this is against XDA rules man. As much as you might have payed, you payed for licensing from Apple and they dictate the terms
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I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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Mike on XDA said:
I wasn't exactly looking to send all my music out for free in a share network. Just looking to get it to work on my PERSONAL device. I understand where you are coming from though. Talking with Apple now as I believe you used to be able to burn your songs to a disk in mp3. Not sure if it's because I am trying to do it with a data dvd-rw but each time the songs remain in the same format. Love the benefits I get for actually paying for my music. Not trying to do anything shady haha. Just looking for my music on my device
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I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
GeorgeP said:
I still buy all my music from itunes and it has always worked on my android phones. IIRC Apple convered to non-DRM many years ago. Anything you bought before that they gave you an option to convert (for a price).
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Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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Mike on XDA said:
Just got off the phone with a rep and I should be able to get those older tracks dmr free in the way of redownloading. The songs unfortunately are too far back to be listed for direct download in my purchase history. I have to go on chat support and give all the individual order numbers listed in my invoice looking purchase history. Certainly not ideal, but better than nothing.
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I tested it out with my account, and anything that I purchase back when I owned a 3GS remains DRM'd. If Apple's willing to help you, that's awesome. There might be some issue about when you bought it and what the EULA was back then. Hopefully Apple can help you through that.
On a side note, Amazon MP3 FTW!
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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Mike on XDA said:
Back off a long chat with support.
iTunes plus has been discontinued and I have yet to get my music burned to a disk in .mp3 format from .m4p. I keep trying in iTunes but haven't been successful yet using a dvd-rw. Not sure if it makes a difference so I will try a cd-r in a minute. The only current way to get the songs DRM free is by subscribing to iTunes Match. From what I understand it scans your library, upgrades lower bit versions of songs and allow you to download DRM free versions of your purchased tracks. $25 a year upfront.
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The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
alphadog00 said:
The official way is to make Music CD disks from iTunes - basically the M4P is turned into a WAV file and you get to put 12 or so on a CD. You lose all the tags, then you can re-rip to MP3. There are some software solutions (I have seen ads) but i have not tried them.
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Yeah, every time I rip them though there are large discrepancies on the time for each track. They are in unprotected format after but some cut off halfway and others last longer than they should with just blank audio. For example Free Fallin by Tom Petty is 4:16 on iTunes but 14:25 on the disk. It is just blank for the extra 10 min while other tracks are cut off with not enough time. I don't understand... This is quite the pain and I'm now out of disks.
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DVD Fab has itunes DRM removal built into it. I think they have a free trial of it, not sure though.

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