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Root now or wait for froyo?

Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Rooting isn't hard at all. You should go ahead & root now

+1 on the root now. While your at it install a custom rom and you will love your phone. Odds are you can get the Froyo update right here before it hits OTA anyways.

Yeah I've rooted my vibrant before I had to get a new one. It is easy but I would probably have to un root it to update right?
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I don't understand what waiting would do. What you should NOT do is get the Froyo update from T-Mobile, as there is a chance that they will push an update that breaks your ability to root with 2.2 and you will have to wait even longer.
I recommended you root now, install Rom Manager, go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813001
Download Fusion 1.1 to your SDCARD (I have a folder called ROMS) and go to Clockwork, reboot into Recovery, Reinstall Packages, Install ZIP from SDCARD, choose Bionix 1.1, wait, and then see what that phone is really capable of.
Using Fusion 1.1 makes me not mind waiting for Froyo.

Yeah you are right it's just I haven't got to comfortable w/ flashing roms just yet. Looks a bit hard I guess I will just keep watching the videos on it till I feel like I can do it
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Flashing roms is super easy as long as you're using ones flashable through rom manager. I must warn you it's very addictive. The only thing I would say is make your you backup in case something goes wrong and avoid Voodoo until you've flashed a few times and feel more comfortable. Great thing is there is tons of support here. I suggest you try Bionix Final.

Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Joshochoa187 said:
I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Yes you can.

Joshochoa187 said:
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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Dooo eeet!
Yes, it's daunting at first to flash a new ROM, but I just did it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was simple and easy. Just read up as much as you can and then write up a "roadmap" on all the steps you need to take, before, during, and after. It removed a lot of headaches for me because I planned it all out and had all the software ready in case anything went wrong (Odin, stock ROM, etc.). If there are any gaps in your understanding or questions about a process, ask them here before you flash!

I would root it and load a custom ROM, waiting for official OTA update to Froyo is like playing a Russian roulette now. Look what a simple update that was suppsoed to address GPS and other issues did to your fellow TMO users.
As always, there will be people who wouldn't even know that you can root the device to make it your own, so they will always run stock, and complain to TMO when they click MobiTV app and never use it, but have to cough up 10 bucks a month for it (it is just an example).
If you came here you know that you can do something to your phone besides waiting for Froyo, take a full advantage of what is offered in the dev section, and don't forget to support the developers if you like the work they do

Ok I'm reading the thread you posted how do I preform nandroid back up?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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If you are going to root, you might as well just do it.
Froyo could easily be 2-3 months down the road yet.

you need ROM manager...
it took me forever to find a how-to on this exact thing.
You have to be rooted in order to accomplish this:
1. root (obviously)
2. download ROM manager
3. open ROM manager and click on 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' and pick your phone.
4. click 'Backup Current ROM'
5. Let it do it's thing... it's going to reboot and run in recovery then reboot again.
6. You are done!!
To recover, you have to boot into clockwork recovery and click restore then pick the date file you made to recover to that date!
** If any of this is wrong, please call me out!!

Yeah, I started doing all this before I even discovered ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. Those tools definitely make everything so much easier.
Make sure you have the following software tools:
ADB
Odin
Rom Manager (w/ ClockworkMod Recovery installed)
Titanium Backup
Also, make sure your phone is not hardware locked before you begin. Try the standard procedure to enter Recovery Mode; if your phone is hardware locked, run the flashable fix (found in the dev forum) so that you have some way of recovering from a soft brick.

From my experiences, rooting has always been the fastest way to get updates. Those rollouts take forever.

Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Joshochoa187 said:
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Way to go!
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lol. i was waiting for a froyo release, i flashed my g1 a bunch so flashing wasn't a big deal, but i was happy with the phone stock for a bit and didn't mind waiting. but i rooted after a week. was flashing smaller things like ji2 gps, getting rid of bloatware, changing bootup/shutdown, etc. a couple weeks later. and a couple weeks after that i started flashing roms.
moral of the story? just root and start flashing now, it's a long wait.

unrooted and went back to stock, don't see gingerbread update.

I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.

You can just get a rooted version of the update from this site if you do the ota you will lose root.
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When I heard it was out, I flashed back to the stock rom, and checked for it, but it said my system was up to date. After about a day, though, it asked me if I wanted to update to the new version. Which unfortunately wouldn't install for me. Which is fine, I like CM7 better than sense anyways.
If you haven't seen it yet, just wait a bit, it'll probably show up.

sah0724 said:
I was runnings myms 2.2 with clockworkmod and I went back to stock by downloading the stock rom and when I go to update it says no updates available.
I'm wondering if maybe I didn't install a new stock rom or something is wrong.
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Please find a way to accept the ota! That way I can laugh at you when you are no longer able to root your phone. Why do people feel the need to unroot for an ota????
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Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.

geez, your making this harder than it has to be. you are already rooted. just download the rooted rom and be done with it. you will still be running a stock rom even though your rooted. if you do absolutely nothing with root u can still download and install the rooted stock rom and use it

sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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Then just download and flash the rooted stock rom by xHausx. Done.
It has all the stock apps and stuff. No mods or themes. No one said you need to.do all that stuff if you root. Rooting just gives you the option to do so.
I wanted to root just to get rid of some sprint apps. Then I switched my rom but no other hacking for me.
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sah0724 said:
Don't take this the wrong way but I don't care about modding or hacking, stock android is just fine to me. I never tethered nor have I used anything that is a benefit of rooting. I just want a phone to be a phone.
It's not that serious to me, I kinda have other things a bit more important than changing roms and so forth.
Stock Android is perfectly fine to me.
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When Google releases ice cream sandwich and htc doesn't update the EVO you will wish you were rooted.
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[Q] Which ROM is best for tethering

Hey all:
I just got a G Tablet a couple of weeks back and I put Vegan 5.1 on it. I don't have a smart phone but am getting one. I think the LG GT540 Optimus is the one I am going with. I have taken a quick look at the how to's for this phone and I noticed a how to for something called Eclaire 2.1 and a different thread for "custom 2.1/2.2/2.3". Which one should I go with. Do you know if either would allow me to tether with my G tab? thanks in advance

If you're really interested in tethering, better you buy Optimus One (P500) as it has tethering support in its stock ROM itself. Considering GT540, Mur4ik has already done with Wifi tethering. If you won't mind waiting for perfectly working tethering, then you can have GT540.
But I won't recommend it if you are just interested in tethering. Rather buy any phone that has Official 2.2/2.3 support.
Some recommendations like LG Optimus One, HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy 3 (they both are upgradeable to 2.2).

thank you..

Can't really find your 3 recommendations at a similar price point as the GT540. Are you saying if i put the 2.1 eclaire and root the phone, tethering isn't currently working?

if you want a cheap android phone get the gt540 and upgrade it to the latest CM7 build that has WiFi tether support enabled and if you do get it make a swap partition on the sd card because i am making a softmod rom and it will have a few tweaks included for performance speed and battery

Ok. Just bought it. Partitioned many internal and external drives using windows but never done an sd through android. I'm sure its not so bad. Are the instructions for that cm7 on the forums some where? Thnx for the reply

yeah look at the how to thread in the dev section. it will help you mod your phone.
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I read somewhere that you should upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, then to 2.3. Is this true or can i go from 2.1 to 2.3 directly?
Also. I see a video on how to install cm7. What would be the prereqs, install fastboot and root the phone or?

If you want I can remote control your PC tomorrow to upgrade your phone for you?

appreciate it!!! but I actually get more enjoyment learning and performing this stuff than I do actually using the phone. Let me give it a try, if i can't I'll let you know. Haven't got the phone yet either. It will be shipped over the next few days or so

no problem just take the time to study the guides while the phone is being shipped.
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Been reading some and there is a lot of info. I have a question. Can I just follow the instructions provided here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12898827&postcount=3 , going to 2.1, 2.2 and so on(can i go to CM7 directly)?
or is there anything else needed to be done too, like rooting etc?

all you need to do is flash a fastboot 2.1 rom then boot into fastboot and direct flash to cm7 if you want.
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2j44 said:
Been reading some and there is a lot of info. I have a question. Can I just follow the instructions provided here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12898827&postcount=3 , going to 2.1, 2.2 and so on(can i go to CM7 directly)?
or is there anything else needed to be done too, like rooting etc?
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Just get 2.1 with fastboot then u can go directly to CM7

Thnx all. I will as soon as i get the phone

Thanks for the infos. I'll try them

Any rom that supports tethering should do.
I'd recommend 2.1 with Quarx kernel
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Hey All: Got the phone yesterday. I think I installed everything last night. Had some issues, though I bricked the phone a few times.
There is one weird thing. When I shutdown the phone. I press power to restart, it does this quick vibrate, then does nothing for like 30 secs, this is where i thought he phone was messed, but then it starts up. not sure what's up?
One more quick thing, how do you get into recovery mode, cause I think i need to do one of those factory resets after install right? thanx

[Q] Upgrading back to Stock 2.3.4 while keeping S-Off and Rooted

Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.

kearnsy said:
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
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just flash the rooted rom of the MT4G 2.3.4 update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
not sure how you missed it lol...
flash the rooted version in this thread.
flash via CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY.
hit the thanks button if i've helped

Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.

kearnsy said:
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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lol it's ok, everyone makes mistakes

[Q] Been away - what's my next move after Royal Ginger 1.6?

Hi guys,
I don't like when people post "how do I root my phone?" when you can search 100 threads to root your phone, so I was hesitant to post this, but I've been away a year or whatever it's been, and I see a whole bunch of new ROMS that are totally unfamiliar to me.
I chose Royal Ginger 1.6 (based on android 2.3.3) way back when (still have it) because I thought it was a stable, non-SENSE plain android ROM that was much faster than the sense that came with my mytough 4g. And I was right. I know it was updated to 2.0 and then the DEV stopped, or whatever the demise was.
I didn't update to 2.0 at the time since I have one of the "bad chips", so it wasn't compelling enough to risk something that was working fine.
I'm getting the itch again to update my phone - it's cheaper than getting a new 4.0 phone and a new contract and $$$. Figured if I slap jelly bean on this it'll make it feel like I got a free upgrade.
Mostly I'm after something that is solid and not something I'd look back and say "why didnt I just leave well-enough lone?" where I'd lose functionality in things I'm used to. (camera etc)
What's the new Royal Ginger nowadays? What's the no brainer ROM to flash when reliability and compatibility is concerned?
Should I go back to entertaining CM nightlies? It seems that some of the andoid v3 ROMS are stable, and what about andoid v4-- isnt that too much of a reach to make compatible with this aging glacier that we have? Not too buggy to use a jelly bean aopk 4.x.x on this?
Thanks for any input

If u wanna stay aosp wuth everything working I suggest cm7.2 stable or nightly that GB For ICS/JB I suggested AospX, or Dark Jellybelly or the port O.O all pretty stable with little to no bugs
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for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...

acsi007 said:
for aospx, you mean this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684835
if so, looks like plain android base of ICS, plus optimizations.
that sounds like what i need. still looking, but this is a good candidate.
funny, when you dont think of these things for a year, you get wobbly on the details.
i still have rom manager on my phone, with root and s=off, i'll have to read the talking points on how to update to make sure i do it right the 1st time...
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I plan on building the milestone release tonight, so go ahead and take your time into getting back into things (unless you're eager to try BR7 ). I might be able to get it released tonight as well if everything goes right.
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Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks

acsi007 said:
Thanks man. Read on another thread here you released the milestone or RC. I'll have to check it out.
question for you or anyone else reading this - maybe on that other thread I read about a guy who got into some boot loop trying to flash your rom I think the BR7 iteration, when he way trying to upgrade from royal ginger.
As I said that's the rom I have on there now, and so my brain brain froze a little while reading that.
Any people upgrading from Royal Ginger to this? Hey bootloop guy - did you ever get past your problem? (I think the responses to your post were to wipe again, reflash, etc etc, but I think you said you did that)
Thanks
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He likely had an older version of clockwordmod (someone else had similar trouble on another ics/jb rom) so just make sure you update it if you haven't in a while. I'd also suggest using 4ext if you're not using it already as people on cwm seem to be having trouble using it with the OTA Updater. Also, it allows you to wipe everything you need to flash a rom with just one option.

I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?

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I'm on royal ginger 1.6 from way last year, and am ready to flash your aospx mr1.
I have ROM manager 5.0.2.1 and with that I flashed CWM Recovery (it downloaded it over data network nice and fast), just 2 days ago, so it must be the latest.
So you're saying that 4ext may be less prone to error... If I go with that, where does that leave ROM Manager, it stays installed- there's no reason to uninstall it? And the CWM recovery? Does 4ext flash its recovery right over my existing CWM recovery?
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You can still use ROM Manager with 4ext. Yes, just flash it right over.
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