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whats happen if one country block IMEI of the phone and you will take this phone to another country???
will work or not?
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Why'd it get blocked? Blocked IEMI numbers are usually because they are stolen.
BOjaS said:
whats happen if one country block IMEI of the phone and you will take this phone to another country???
will work or not?
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TC,
I will tell you the answer after you return the stolen phone.
Good day.
ok why already everyone think that is stolen??? be honest with you guys i have no idea why they blocked my phone... i send to service they conformed that the phone is blocked becouse it was stolen... on my question why they decided to block it after i was using it for 8 months they couldnt give me answere...
quuestion is what i can do about it if i bought phone on ebay??? i have all the detiles of transaction and they guy detiles, shall i go on the police station to say that they guy is selling stolen goods?
Relax man.
It is not your fault you bought an stolen device.
This things happen.However it is quite unpleasant to have your phone stolen.I think you would agree.
Since you can not use the phone you might as well give it back to the owner.
The phone was blocked probably because someone reported the phone to be stolen.The police will take the phone for sure, and maybe the seller from ebay did not know it was stolen.But who knows.
Did you get any documents,an invoice or something , when you got the phone on ebay?
Good luck.
berbecverde said:
Relax man.
It is not your fault you bought an stolen device.
This things happen.However it is quite unpleasant to have your phone stolen.I think you would agree.
Since you can not use the phone you might as well give it back to the owner.
The phone was blocked probably because someone reported the phone to be stolen.The police will take the phone for sure, and maybe the seller from ebay did not know it was stolen.But who knows.
Did you get any documents,an invoice or something , when you got the phone on ebay?
Good luck.
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As stated above I would return device as it sounds like its stolen. I would also report it to ebay as you appear to have a legit case which should be investigated by them. If you have kept copies of ducoments/trasnactions etc you could also possibly get refunded
Well don't return it unless you get a refund first. If you paid by PayPal try to file a dispute and tell them it's a stolen phone. If they refund your money, you can either take the phone to a local carrier store and let them return it to the original owner, or just sell it on eBay yourself. If you don't get a refund, just sell it on eBay so you can recover your wasted money.
As far as taking it to another country, I don't think they'd be able to block it internationally, that doesn't really seem plausible.
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Well don't return it unless you get a refund first. If you paid by PayPal try to file a dispute and tell them it's a stolen phone. If they refund your money, you can either take the phone to a local carrier store and let them return it to the original owner, or just sell it on eBay yourself. If you don't get a refund, just sell it on eBay so you can recover your wasted money.
As far as taking it to another country, I don't think they'd be able to block it internationally, that doesn't really seem plausible.
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We DO NOT encourage people to sell stolen goods, this is fraud!!
Consider this first and last warning!!
Fallen Spartan said:
We DO NOT encourage people to sell stolen goods, this is fraud!!
Consider this first and last warning!!
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Sorry, I definitely don't support stealing or helping people steal. I'm just saying if there are no other options, he might as well sell it or else he's lost $600+ for nothing.
OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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If it's stolen I'd assume it can be blocked indefinitely.
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OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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It's quite likely that the seller himself has reported the phone lost/stolen in order to make an insurance claim. It's even more likely if you bought it boxed and with the charger and all other bits. This is always a significant risk when buying a mobile phone from ebay. I suggest you contact the seller first of all and see what he says.
As people said here the right thing to do would be going to the police, which obviously means submitting the phone with no refund. And possibly helping to catch another thief (God knows we hate them!)
And if you go abroad (e.g. Poland) then yes your phone will work.
My gf's old phone broke, and I found a cheap HD2 on craigslist. I went ahead and bought it from the guy. He seemed ok, maybe a LITTLE shady. When I brought it home and told her how I got it, she became worried that if we put her sim card into it, and it IS stolen, a red flag will show up at T-mobile and she might get into trouble.
Is there any way T-mobile can tell who has the phone if it IS stolen? Also, if she ever has to send it in for a replacement through warranty, will she be screwed? I know I shouldn't have bought it off of Craigslist, but it's too late for that now...
Well, you could always call T-Mobile and ask them if it was reported stolen ....
Don't think they will call the police on you , If you tell them you are going to , but I bet they will want to take your name, just in case ...
Lol this whole thread seems shady as hell.
Sounds like the OP might be trying to fish answers for his own endeavors...
lol, i know. it sounds pretty bad, but i assure you, that's not the case.
they can tell if it's stolen. they can tell if more than one person has the same IMEI number. whoever was using the phone will have that IMEI on their account, and if your gf puts her sim card in it, they will be able to see the IMEI from the phone. that's done on purpose, so that if someone does report a stolen phone, and the IMEI turns up on another account, they can flag it. however if it was not reported stolen, then there isn't much they can do as they don't know whether or not the original owner sold it to you or a shady guy on craigslist sold it to you, so reporting to the authorities would be pointless for them, as it may have been a legal transaction. as for calling them, they're probably not going to give you the info if that IMEI is registered in their system, they may not even tell you if it is. but if it has been reported stolen, and the IMEI shows up under a different account it will probably be flagged, I'm not sure what would happen at that point. More than likely rather than calling the authorities they'll just cut off the service to the phone.
Try a prepaid sim card and see if it was IMEI blocked?
well, we put her sim card in it and nothing has happened so far. i suppose it was legit.
If you got it with box, supplies and cables its very low chance that it stolen. Actual price in my local craiglist is really low, but it doesn't mean that most of all are stollen
tmobile dont care if the phone stolen or not. it doesnt really matter.
Slash8915 said:
My gf's old phone broke, and I found a cheap HD2 on craigslist. I went ahead and bought it from the guy. He seemed ok, maybe a LITTLE shady. When I brought it home and told her how I got it, she became worried that if we put her sim card into it, and it IS stolen, a red flag will show up at T-mobile and she might get into trouble.
Is there any way T-mobile can tell who has the phone if it IS stolen? Also, if she ever has to send it in for a replacement through warranty, will she be screwed? I know I shouldn't have bought it off of Craigslist, but it's too late for that now...
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If that were possible I would like to think they would have told me when my TouchPro2 got stolen... The fact that they didn't mention anything like that leads me to believe they can't tell just by the sim card.
i buy/sell phones on craigslist almost weekly and put my sim in all of them
when i call t-mobile to change the internet plan they always ask me where i bought the phone. i always say from t-mobile and they never say anything about it. guess they cant really tell
hope this helps
Slash8915 said:
My gf's old phone broke, and I found a cheap HD2 on craigslist. I went ahead and bought it from the guy. He seemed ok, maybe a LITTLE shady. When I brought it home and told her how I got it, she became worried that if we put her sim card into it, and it IS stolen, a red flag will show up at T-mobile and she might get into trouble.
Is there any way T-mobile can tell who has the phone if it IS stolen? Also, if she ever has to send it in for a replacement through warranty, will she be screwed? I know I shouldn't have bought it off of Craigslist, but it's too late for that now...
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Hi,
I'm not in the US but i always purchase phones from US and UK on ebay.
Always when i buy phones which are doubt to be stolen or reported as stolen i use this site www.checkmend.com.
They are even recommended by ebay. They claim to have a connection to a database that has all the information on Mobile Phones, Laptops, GPS navigators, etc. Which they can track by the serial number.
In your case you will need to provide them with the IMEI number of your phone and they will give a report on the status of the phone and past owners if they are registered. (they send this report by email instantly. they charge you USD 2.99 for this service. i thinks its quite worth than the risk.)
in my experience I've tried this service twice and a HD that i bought from the UK was returned with a report that said "This item has been blocked during its lifetime by one or more UK network(s)." which means it was reported lost or stolen.
and i even tried my HD2 which i'm using currently which i got from US cos i didn't get any box or accessory with it. But the report came out clear and i am in peace of mind.
Hope this helps.
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in my experience I've tried this service twice and a HD that i bought from the UK was returned with a report that said "This item has been blocked during its lifetime by one or more UK network(s)." which means it was reported lost or stolen.
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usefull site. does it give any detail? i blocked my last phone thinking i'd lost it, 4 weeks later it turned up in a friends sofa, so i had them un block it and used it for another 18months.
i guess that would give the response you gave above..
Someone mentioned the IEM number that is the way they can tell if its stolen. So when and IF you ever take your phone into the store to have the useless sales people help you solve some problem. That is how they will know if its stolen. If there is a way to tell by electronic signal Tmobile simply doesnt care. I asked when I bought mine and they told me to get insurance. I asked how do you know if I dont just keep the phone and get a new one for 100 bucks. IEM number shows up was their answer.
Your IMEI and sim info are constantly broadcast about the cell network, you don't have to go into a store for this information to be picked up.
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr is one of the most common websites for checking your IMEI number (it's free), but do be careful with posting your IMEI/Serial number online at any site. Some are looking for valid IMEI numbers to use illegally.
Damn those shady Craigslist guys...
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when i call t-mobile to change the internet plan
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I could be mistaken but I believe that if you select the G1 unlimited data plan, then any smart phone you have after that will not need to be updated...I am using the G1 plan with my HD2 and it works fine. So maybe you can avoid lying to them.
Someone on ebay has an HD2 for sale for a good price that he claimed insurance on. I was thinking of buying it. Does anyone know if it'll work if I buy it?
Thnx for help =D
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Someone on ebay has an HD2 for sale for a good price that he claimed insurance on. I was thinking of buying it. Does anyone know if it'll work if I buy it?
Thnx for help =D
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my mystic ball tells me that he claimed insurance on it for a reason....
i would ask for the imei # & then call htc to see if it has any warranty still on it. if it does you could buy it & hope that what ever is wrong with it will be covered under the warranty but you might be buying a very expensive paper weight. I bought mine on ebay & made sure it was still under warranty before buying it & then shipped it out to htc for repair. they replaced my phone & shipped it back 2 me 4 free. i only had to pay for the shipping there.
His description says he only did it to get another phone and that its gauranteed working. But I'm wondering if T-Mobile would care about that and block your phone?
my only concern would be it having a bad esn which shouldnt be likely since he said he did the swap himself. normally that happens when you try 2 sell a stolen phone. i would call t-mobile with the esn# to see if its bad or not.
anytime you do an exchange through t-mobile you have 2 mail back the phone thats not working or you will get a huge restocking fee = to the phones price unless it was an upgrade which i think you then can keep your old phone.
I would check the completed auctions on ebay, its on the left hand side of the page. price what the htc hd2 has sold for & then if you can get it for cheaper then the average price i would go ahead & buy it. if you cant get it working on t-mobiles network then you can always resell it on ebay & since you did your homework on how much you can expect 2 sell it 4 you wont be out any/a lot of money. i wouldnt think that it would be an issue but i also wouldnt want to give you info on something im not 100% on, best bet would be to call.
I didn't know ESN's applied to phones that use sim cards.
So if the ESN is bad then it might not work and it would just be a paper weight?
Would applying a new OS such as android fix this at all and is the ESN changeable?
Thanks for the info guys, esp htccraze
As I was writing that I was wondering it myself. Lol. I looked online at a few places and your right, t-mobile is not affected by bad esn #'s. I was with verizon till just last year so thats where I was gathering my info from, so I'm really sorry about that.
It seems as though everything should be fine then. Like I said, if you can get a good deal on it & think you'd be able to resell it around the price you paid then there wouldnt be as much risk because you'll be able to get your money back if for whatever reason you no longer like/want the phone. I don't like 2 tell ppl what they should do with they're hard earned money but as a pt seller on eBay myself I feel that papal/ebay buyer protection would have you covered if something was listed wrong or if it dont live up to the description he put in his listing.
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cakinlife there are 2 options you can do. 1) As htccraze said yes you might want to call htc if it is still cover under warranty. 2) The HTC HD2 could be use under another network if the phone is unlcoked.
I would be suprised if there was no sting in the tail here
Insurance is not used just to get a new phone (most insurance phones are refurbs anyway) and the only reason it would be replaced without being sent in for repair/exchange would be if its reported lost/stolen, then the owner got it back (or it was not lost anyway)
Dodgy to say the least
If the IMEI is blacklisted, you need to provide proof of ownersip to unlock it (if you are not the original owner) in the UK that is
IMEI for the phone
IMSI for the SIM
Thanks everyone for the tips, I ended up losing the auction lol (price got too high) but now I know =D
Really appreciate all the help
Hello,
About a month ago i bought an used Nexus 4 device on ebay. After 1 month of use i get no signal, not being able to make calls , send messages etc. after some search i found out phone is blacklisted, maybe stolen i dont know. can i fix this? could i get it back to working order? thank you
tonisr said:
Hello,
About a month ago i bought an used Nexus 4 device on ebay. After 1 month of use i get no signal, not being able to make calls , send messages etc. after some search i found out phone is blacklisted, maybe stolen i dont know. can i fix this? could i get it back to working order? thank you
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You get 45 days to return any item on ebay, just go to the resolution center and "Report that you received an item that wasn't as described"
Salvy said:
You get 45 days to return any item on ebay, just go to the resolution center and "Report that you received an item that wasn't as described"
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i bought it cheap so cant find another for that price. anyways thats what i will do in the end.so there is no way i could fix it?
tonisr said:
i bought it cheap so cant find another for that price. anyways thats what i will do in the end.so there is no way i could fix it?
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unfortunately for you and the person who the phone was stolen from. the blacklist is on the carrier end. and as far as i know you can't hide or alter the IMEI serial on your phone. so unless you want an oversized ipod touch, i suggest you return it and hopefully can get a refund from the seller on ebay.
tonisr said:
i bought it cheap so cant find another for that price. anyways thats what i will do in the end.so there is no way i could fix it?
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Legally, nope.
How cheap? ~200? Even at that price is not worth it if is blacklisted. Anyways the Nexus 4 is very cheap as it is! (comparing it to similar phones).
If you still want to buy another from ebay, I would recommend to get the 8GB version, since that one is only sold directly from Google, is impossible that it can get blacklisted.
ok thanks guys i will open a dispute against buyer. thank you
Woah blacklist.. so they can literally blacklist your phone from working at all wrt making calls and stuffs.. ?
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Woah blacklist.. so they can literally blacklist your phone from working at all wrt making calls and stuffs.. ?
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If you report your phone stolen to your ISP, they will add the device's unique IMEI to a database that blocks it from accessing the network, effectively making it useless on the carrier. Depending on how the blacklist database works, the device may still work with other carriers, but it's also possible for this blacklist to be shared among carriers. So as long as you buy your device from the Play Store or directly from your carrier, it will be fine. Used phones should always be tested with a SIM before buying it, and keep your IMEI safe. Even if you buy a used phone, it's possible for the seller to report it stolen after they get your money.
If the buyer doesn't accept it or its too late, just sell it out for parts. You can sell the screen, back cover, battery, camera, usb port, and headphone port, for at least $200. Just don't sell the motherboard as that's the part that has the blacklisting
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Bloodflame said:
If you report your phone stolen to your ISP, they will add the device's unique IMEI to a database that blocks it from accessing the network, effectively making it useless on the carrier. Depending on how the blacklist database works, the device may still work with other carriers, but it's also possible for this blacklist to be shared among carriers. So as long as you buy your device from the Play Store or directly from your carrier, it will be fine. Used phones should always be tested with a SIM before buying it, and keep your IMEI safe. Even if you buy a used phone, it's possible for the seller to report it stolen after they get your money.
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U have any idea do blacklisted phones in canada work outside of CA? In EUROPE for example? Thanks
Well, seeming as the Nexus 4 is only $199, £159, that price is amazingly cheap, I'd say you should get your money back and order one from the play store..
I'm attempting to pull the trigger on this version. It's only $150 and brand new sealed in box. With T-Mobile Digits and Wifi everywhere I go, it's quite cheap to use this as a secondary phone.
Essential PH-1 Black 128GB Wi-Fi Smart Device (WI-FI ONLY)
WI-FI DEVICE ONLY - NO MOBILE CELLULAR RADIO CONNECTION
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Essential-PH-1-Black-128GB-Wi-Fi-Smart-Device-WI-FI-ONLY-Brand-New-Sealed/323185478833?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Does anyone know if I can update or manually flash Oero on it?
Thank you,
You should be able to update through OTA. I did mine purely on Wifi so being able to connect to a sim card shouldn't matter for update.
What I'm curious on is how is it wifi only? Is it a Sprint device with a blacklisted IMEI?
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You should be able to update through OTA. I did mine purely on Wifi so being able to connect to a sim card shouldn't matter for update.
What I'm curious on is how is it wifi only? Is it a Sprint device with a blacklisted IMEI?
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I'm thinking they are like those Samsung demo phones in Best Buy stores. These might be demo phones in Sprint stores. Maybe.... Also not sure about the warranty on these "phones".
ttn1185 said:
I'm attempting to pull the trigger on this version. It's only $150 and brand new sealed in box. With T-Mobile Digits and Wifi everywhere I go, it's quite cheap to use this as a secondary phone.
Essential PH-1 Black 128GB Wi-Fi Smart Device (WI-FI ONLY)
WI-FI DEVICE ONLY - NO MOBILE CELLULAR RADIO CONNECTION
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Essential-PH-1-Black-128GB-Wi-Fi-Smart-Device-WI-FI-ONLY-Brand-New-Sealed/323185478833?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Does anyone know if I can update or manually flash Oero on it?
Thank you,
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Is your intention to only use WiFi?
You Should be able to flash it but it might have a bad ESN or no mobile radio.
tech_head said:
Is your intention to only use WiFi?
You Should be able to flash it but it might have a bad ESN or no mobile radio.
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Just Wifi only.
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Just Wifi only.
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My bet is its stolen or a fake. The listing says no cellular connection, not that it doesn't have a cell radio. Probably blacklisted as a result so they don't want to sell with that expectation.
It could be stolen but that doesn't automatically mean that it's blacklisted. The phone is supposedly new so it would never have been registered on any network. But if it's a Sprint phone why not sell it as a Sprint phone? There's definitely something wrong. Essential doesn't make a wifi only device. I personally wouldn't even consider it.
"Brand new in sealed box"
"WI-FI DEVICE ONLY - NO MOBILE CELLULAR RADIO CONNECTION"
These statements seem a bit contradictory. How does anyone know the phone is WiFi only unless it's been opened and tested? Unless it's stolen.
You will get what you deserve if you buy this phone.
I pulled the trigger anyways. Will report back once I receive it next Tuesday.
If it is stolen, you can have it confiscated as stolen property if it gets traced back to you. Maybe charged. Not sure.
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If it is stolen, you can have it confiscated as stolen property if it gets traced back to you. Maybe charged. Not sure.
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I don't think that's a legitimate issue because of Ebay Buyer Protection. I don't understand what the deal is with that item but it looks like a legitimate seller. It's not a new Ebay account and the seller has a high feedback rating with no negatives.
Lol I saw this listing earlier. Must be a bad IMEI
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Lol I saw this listing earlier. Must be a bad IMEI
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If by bad IMEI you mean stolen, then yeah. It's in a sealed, unopened box, so activation was never attempted. The only way it could be a bad IMEI in my limited experience would be for to be blacklisted if it were reported as stolen. If it were a Sprint phone, you could potentially still activate it on their network and then transfer after 90 days. If it "fell off the back of a truck" and were part of a delivery to store inventory, ie., Best Buy, Verizon, AT&T, then it could be blacklisted and reported as missing/stolen. Could have been a shipment to a residence and delivered to the wrong place or stolen from a doorstep or in transit. Whatever, it's certainly fishy. It'll be interesting to hear how this plays out.
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If by bad IMEI you mean stolen, then yeah. It's in a sealed, unopened box, so activation was never attempted. The only way it could be a bad IMEI in my limited experience would be for to be blacklisted if it were reported as stolen. If it were a Sprint phone, you could potentially still activate it on their network and then transfer after 90 days. If it "fell off the back of a truck" and were part of a delivery to store inventory, ie., Best Buy, Verizon, AT&T, then it could be blacklisted and reported as missing/stolen. Could have been a shipment to a residence and delivered to the wrong place or stolen from a doorstep or in transit. Whatever, it's certainly fishy. It'll be interesting to hear how this plays out.
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It would be amazing if it ended up being a clean IMEI and works without a hitch. Would be great score for the buyer. lol
It's also possible they are liquidated stock from a Sprint partner or reseller.
In a previous job we used to bulk buy a few hundred devices to send to the public and quite often our supplier sourced a mix from various places, such as bankrupt / closed stores, etc. So you'd end up with a load of ex-TMO devices, for example.
Despite selling these, the supplier had no idea about unlocking them or updating them.
My point being... If they are locked to Sprint, it's quite likely the seller simply banged an AT&T or TMO SIM in one, found it had no service and decided to offload them cheap, buy still at a profit.
It likely isn't worth their time to try and unlock N amount of devices when selling them for $150 probably still gives them a decent profit.
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If by bad IMEI you mean stolen, then yeah. It's in a sealed, unopened box, so activation was never attempted. The only way it could be a bad IMEI in my limited experience would be for to be blacklisted if it were reported as stolen. If it were a Sprint phone, you could potentially still activate it on their network and then transfer after 90 days. If it "fell off the back of a truck" and were part of a delivery to store inventory, ie., Best Buy, Verizon, AT&T, then it could be blacklisted and reported as missing/stolen. Could have been a shipment to a residence and delivered to the wrong place or stolen from a doorstep or in transit. Whatever, it's certainly fishy. It'll be interesting to hear how this plays out.
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The seller had 25 of them so they couldn't have been stolen from a resistance. Things have been known to disappear from Best Buy but selling stolen phones wouldn't seem to be worth the risk for an Ebay seller with a good account that's been open for years. On top of that unless the transactions are fake the seller already sold 18 of these and has received no negative feedback yet.
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The seller had 25 of them so they couldn't have been stolen from a resistance. Things have been known to disappear from Best Buy but selling stolen phones wouldn't seem to be worth the risk for an Ebay seller with a good account that's been open for years. On top of that unless the transactions are fake the seller already sold 18 of these and has received no negative feedback yet.
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Good points, I just can't for the life of me figure out any other reason why a new, sealed in box phone would be sold as wifi only.
Jank4AU said:
Good points, I just can't for the life of me figure out any other reason why a new, sealed in box phone would be sold as wifi only.
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See my post above.
Assuming they aren't fake or stolen, they are likely Sprint phones. The seller will have tried a TMO or ATT SIM, found it didn't work and then decided to offload them cheap, but still profitable.
Likely isn't worth the time (man hours) trying to unlock them, which may or may not work.
Edit: Especially when the seller seems to be selling mostly accessories, rather than devices. They may not be that technically inclined.
Guess we'll all see...
Interesting
ttn1185 said:
I'm attempting to pull the trigger on this version. It's only $150 and brand new sealed in box. With T-Mobile Digits and Wifi everywhere I go, it's quite cheap to use this as a secondary phone.
Essential PH-1 Black 128GB Wi-Fi Smart Device (WI-FI ONLY)
WI-FI DEVICE ONLY - NO MOBILE CELLULAR RADIO CONNECTION
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Essential-PH-1-Black-128GB-Wi-Fi-Smart-Device-WI-FI-ONLY-Brand-New-Sealed/323185478833?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
Does anyone know if I can update or manually flash Oero on it?
Thank you,
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Even at $150, for a 128gb WiFi device that's not bad. Could be a great mp3 player. I'd buy one
i bought one.. ot the insurance with it for 25$..lol
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