At the current moment, there is no way to utilize the camera to its full extent. the autofocus sucks worse than a hungry hooker. There is a physical hardware capability to have manual focus. Unfortunately its hard/impossible to access this through the app development process. the drivers just aren't groovy. there have been phones with this feature in the stock camera but they were not nexuses. we desperately need the ability to have manual focus in out camera apps
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At the current moment, there is no way to utilize the camera to its full extent. the autofocus sucks worse than a hungry hooker. There is a physical hardware capability to have manual focus. Unfortunately its hard/impossible to access this through the app development process. the drivers just aren't groovy. there have been phones with this feature in the stock camera but they were not nexuses. we desperately need the ability to have manual focus in out camera apps
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Can you enlighten me as to which phones had manual focus cameras? It would be great to have this feature!
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by manual focus. It is impossible to get a good manual focus from a real-time LCD screen when compared to the camera's autofocus mechanism (even in DSLRs). Even with an optical finder, it can be tough to match the precision that the chip and software can achieve.
But a "focus lock" would be of tremendous value. A simple mode, that when switched on, would allow you to tap the screen to get a focus lock on that point, and maintain it until another tap. And a similar setting for exposure lock is needed as well. The camera app has a nice intervalometer, but it is useless for creating nice time lapses when exposure and focus params are reset between captures.
Ive never seen a phone with manual focus........how would you focus the lens? lol
I think you need to relax. Multiple threads posted across multiple subforums and even posting in the wrong section. I havent had any issues with the auto focus yet. If it wont focus in low light situations, turn on flash and touch the screen so it focuses in before taking the picture.
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Ive never seen a phone with manual focus........how would you focus the lens? lol
I think you need to relax. Multiple threads posted across multiple subforums and even posting in the wrong section. I havent had any issues with the auto focus yet. If it wont focus in low light situations, turn on flash and touch the screen so it focuses in before taking the picture.
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I think he means where you tap on a particular part of the screen and the camera re-focuses on the item there.
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you know how your view gets blurry then gets sharp thats focus, and im looking to be able to control the distance manually with a slider, like zoom except not zoom its focus, there is a capability but it hasnt been harnesed yet
It would also be nice to zoom on a specific spot not dead center.
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It would also be nice to zoom on a specific spot not dead center.
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You can achieve this magic by...............moving the phone.
Dude, seriously, how many different threads do you need on this subject? Have you spammed the WP8 forums yet? I think you missed those..
the auto focusing is probably my most hated feature of this wonderful phone. I love the phone but good god its awful. You should see the horrific pictures it took the other day with a small amount of motion. Stupid thing looked like it was trying to lock on a target from the glory days of top gun.
annoying as f
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the auto focusing is probably my most hated feature of this wonderful phone. I love the phone but good god its awful. You should see the horrific pictures it took the other day with a small amount of motion. Stupid thing looked like it was trying to lock on a target from the glory days of top gun.
annoying as f
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I agree, its difficult to get good pictures. mine always turn up out of focus/motion blurred (even when subject is still, if that makes sense). My GNex took way better pictures, IMO.
I think the op means continuous autofocus not tap to focus
Zoom maybe.
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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I have issues even with my 1.5 stock, slow to shoot, slow to record, just overall slow.
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With any of the 2.1 roms out my camera is just either slow or takes blurry pictures. 5 PIXELS MY ASS. WTF!
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I don't have any issues. Perhaps you have a hardware problem?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
mine is the same, has a white haze in any pic i take. i think it has something to do with the 2.1 builds.
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The HTC hero definitely has a poor quality camera. It is because the light sensor has trouble working too well in dark environments. Also, the shutter speed is very very slow, the slowest shutter speed of any digital camera i've ever used on any phone.
On 2.1(any rom) it seems the shutter speed is even slower. This is probably due to a bug in the 2.1 camera driver.
Take a picture on your HTC hero with 2.1 of something that's moving. I guarantee you it will be VERY blurry. Take it with 1.5, it will still be blurry, but not nearly so much.
Now take it with, for example, the droid. It will come out perfectly on the motorola droid running 2.1 with it's 5MP camera.
Megapixels don't equal quality level >> http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm
Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
hahah the camera is just lousy. tried doing a fix and yadda yadda. everything is blurry. maybe it is cocsine hands haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
If you still get lousy pics, check your lighting, and clean the camera lens cover.
If you STILL get lousy pics, take the phone back and get a refurb replacement.
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What he said. I was almost as disappointed with the Hero camera as I was with the Moment. However if you set it to 800 and make sure you change the lighting manually too you can take pretty good pics. Not as good as we would all like, but still good.
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"
ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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Pro tip: In camera, under settings, manually set ISO to 800. You'll get much better pictures. under 1.5 or 2.x the auto iso is crap.
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Uh...I don't have an ISO option under settings.
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Then your camera app is busted.
You started the camera, pulled out the tab, then tapped on the 'gears' (for settings) right?
No issues here either. My pictures come out crystal clear. Lay off the cocaine and your hands wont shake so much
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Damn I really thought it was the camera!
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ok hate to break it to ya but you are talking about a camera on a cell phone.
first just becuase it has 5 MP doesnt mean a dam thing I can get the same quality photo from a 2mp point and shoot as I can from my 24.5mp DSLR all the MP really mean is that you can enlarge the photo more without degredation.
second follow the instructions above they will gain you a few stops of shutter speed since being on auto probably keeps it at around 200-400 as that is normal native ISO.
after that go into settings and unless you are taking a bunch of photos of landscapes change your metering mode to center or spot if you are mainly taking photos of people then this is going to give you a better exposure of the person.
in my opinion this is why cell phones dont need these kinds of cameras on them. they give a more functional and customizable camera and instead of trying to understand basic camera functions people are just going to say "this camera is crap"[/QUOTE
pretty soon cameras will be just as good on a cell phone as without. technology is getting better. my bro has the droid and the camera is 5x better than the hero. haha
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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ummmm no they wont....... they cant be the laws of physics wont allow a lens that is the size of a thumb tack to reproduce and image as well as an optically aligned lens no amount of software can fix opticaly inferiorority.
but im not going to argue with you about it becuase it people like you that think that just because you have a digital camera that your a "photographer" and cheapen the art that many people persuewith passion.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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There's just no way around it, the Hero's camera is rather disappointing hardware wise, however it is on par with most other (lower end) cell phone cameras. It works for quick snapshots like it was designed, so I don't really complain.
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Exactly. It is what it IS. It's not MEANT to take professional grade wedding photos...or photos that you plan to keep forever. It's meant for pictures to be shared on facebook, or flickr. More for social networking than 'hey, let's take all our vacation photos with the phone!'.
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I agree. Not every idiot with a camera is a photographer. Mostly they're just idiots.
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That is ridiculous. So what if i'm not a "professional" photographer. I STILL WANT high quality images when I DO decide to take a photo.
And guess what, the Motorola Droid, which is a cellphone if I am not mistaken..., can take pictures that are FAR higher quality than the HTC Hero.
The reason the hero's camera is so terrible is because of
1. The light sensor
2. Shutter speed
Now maybe I am wrong and the Droid really is a digital camera and that's why it is higher quality, but I have a feeling that HTC just put a ****ty camera on this phone...
Hi there,
Is there a guide available for the SGS2 camera? i received my device with no guide of the camera and I really want to know about "beauty shot", "action shot" (which im having a hard time getting useful shots with) and "outdoor visibility" which seems to brighten up the screen but not the resulting image.
anyone can shed some light onto those features and maybe post decent "action shots" made by him?
thanks!
Have a read through the attached manual. It does talk about the camera modes that you mentioned, as well as lots of other stuff.
Hope it helps
thanks alot man!
i still would love to see some "action shots though" from other people
"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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"Action shot" just means high shutter speed to freeze action, it's also called "sport mode" on some point 'n squirt cameras... Not always the best way to shoot action actually.
Outdoor visibility is so that you actually have a chance to see the screen when taking pictures in bright sunshine for example, it doesn't change the picture.
I just wish they'd put fully manual controls too, I hate using the pre-set modes...
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you are not right here my fried.
action shot is some kind of a panoramic shot (am i confusing options here?) that involves the camera tracking an object across a certain area while it is moving.
it also takes a few shots and not just one.
Ok so high shutter speed combined with multiple shots and possibly some kind of focus tracking (though that last bit would surprise me in a phone camera - will check it at some point!) As I've said, I'm not a fan of pre-set modes, they never quite do what I want! I'm a photographer btw so I'm just used to shooting in manual, including motorsport, I'm not sure I even know how to put my cameras in auto lol
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Edit: actually it *is* different to the sports mode (which is under "scenes") - my bad. Not quite proper focus tracking though, you have to follow whatever it is that is moving and then it combines the shots into a single picture quite clever really. Will have to try it for fun though my usual test subjects (the cats!) are asleep right now.
Edit 2: had a play... it's a bit weird you take the first shot, then follow the subject and the camera takes more pictures as and when 1) it has decided that you've moved enough (like with the panorama mode) and 2) thinks that whatever you're following is in focus (it failed a bit on that point tbh). That's what I don't like about auto-stuff... camera decides when it should do something, which isn't necessarily when I want it to do it. It is quite fun though. More testing needed have all day free tomorrow so will do it then
Right, best result so far... Not great tbh, I've found that if the object moves too slowly, pictures don't get taken because the camera doesn't realise it should; if the object moves too fast then the focus is a bit hit and miss. Then when it does manage to do what it should you have the problem of [ insert swear word of choice] auto exposure so in the attached pic you can easily tell where the pictures are joined.
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Hi folks,
Just bought my new Black Galaxy S4 (I9505) yesterday and enjoying every bit of it, but camera has been a great disappointment. I'm not sure why but the camera has some really bad lag. So much so, I have started thinking that S4 has some sort of issue with camera. I tried searching on the interent, and could not find any other complaints on S4's camera shutter.
Is there anyone else having the same issue? Let me explain the issue; when I take a picture on Auto mode (or any other mode), there is a lag between pressing the camera button and when the actual picture is taken. That is probably understandable due to auto focus (?), but most of the pictures come out blurry. Also, the frame I see in the view finder is not the same as the actual picture. I mean, the subject in the frame at the time of when I see the picture has been taken, does not come out the same when I look at the picture itself. I'm no camera expert so trying my best to explain it well. I have disabled every sort of fancy features in my camera, as well as the whole phone (air gesture, smart screen, etc) (although I'm sure that has nothing to do with the camera performance) but still the issue is still there.
Any suggestions on how to make it better. I take quite a lot of pictures and have been doing it on my S3 without any major complaints. In fact, I love SGS3 camera, and upgraded to S4 thinking it'll have a better camera, but that's not my experience till now.
Thanks!
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Hi folks,
Just bought my new Black Galaxy S4 (I9505) yesterday and enjoying every bit of it, but camera has been a great disappointment. I'm not sure why but the camera has some really bad lag. So much so, I have started thinking that S4 has some sort of issue with camera. I tried searching on the interent, and could not find any other complaints on S4's camera shutter.
Is there anyone else having the same issue? Let me explain the issue; when I take a picture on Auto mode (or any other mode), there is a lag between pressing the camera button and when the actual picture is taken. That is probably understandable due to auto focus (?), but most of the pictures come out blurry. Also, the frame I see in the view finder is not the same as the actual picture. I mean, the subject in the frame at the time of when I see the picture has been taken, does not come out the same when I look at the picture itself. I'm no camera expert so trying my best to explain it well. I have disabled every sort of fancy features in my camera, as well as the whole phone (air gesture, smart screen, etc) (although I'm sure that has nothing to do with the camera performance) but still the issue is still there.
Any suggestions on how to make it better. I take quite a lot of pictures and have been doing it on my S3 without any major complaints. In fact, I love SGS3 camera, and upgraded to S4 thinking it'll have a better camera, but that's not my experience till now.
Thanks!
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Menu, settings, about, software update. See if you have an update. There was one last week and part of it was an upgrade of the camera software I think.
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Menu, settings, about, software update. See if you have an update. There was one last week and part of it was an upgrade of the camera software I think.
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Thanks for the reply! I did upgrade the software as soon as I connected my phone to wifi. I think that was the only update ever since S4 launched. Any other suggestions? I do believe that this is not a common issue, I read some camera reviews and everyone seems to be praising the shutter speed, so they must be talking about a different camera than what I have
i have the same issue, i have newest software, just updated by ota. when i press sutter button i have to wait one second for picture is actually taken... so big lag, with s3 it was instant - zero shutter lag.
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i have the same issue, i have newest software, just updated by ota. when i press sutter button i have to wait one second for picture is actually taken... so big lag, with s3 it was instant - zero shutter lag.
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That's it! That is what I am experiencing. Not sure how to fix it. If you find anything, do let me know. I'm also looking around and trying different settings. My S3 had a super camera with no lags and pictures come out crisp, that's not what I'm getting with S4.
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Is the delay there when you use the voice command?
At least I am not alone. Thanks to everyone who replied. Can someone disable "auto night detection" in camera settings and see if it makes any difference? I tried changing this setting and do feel some difference but cannot tell for sure. I have seen that when you take a picture in dark and when auto night detection is enabled, shutter speed is a lot faster than usual.
I am hoping we'll find some answer within the existing phone/camera settings and dont have to hack the camera, or in worst case, change the phone.
Thanks!
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When focusing instead of letting the phone do it tap screen let it lock on then take the picture, I've had no problems using the camera on my phone pics have come out sharp.
But i do agree the camera software itself still needs abit of work doing yet, this will more likely get sorted out in future updates.
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When focusing instead of letting the phone do it tap screen let it lock on then take the picture, I've had no problems using the camera on my phone pics have come out sharp.
But i do agree the camera software itself still needs abit of work doing yet, this will more likely get sorted out in future updates.
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I see no difference between manual tapping and auto focus. The problem is still there. Thanks for the reply anyway.
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Is the delay there when you use the voice command?
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Yes, I just tried voice control and the problem still exists. Thanks!!
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+1 after using my camera for the first real time out with friends yesterday, got some real mixed results, some ok, but a lot blurry, even in good lighting
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+1 after using my camera for the first real time out with friends yesterday, got some real mixed results, some ok, but a lot blurry, even in good lighting
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Same here! I took quite a few pictures today outside in sunny weather and was very disappointed to see some blurry shots. Never had any such complaint from S3 camera. This is very disappointing. I hope samsung do something about it.
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Also, your hand has to be VERY still to take pictures that are in focus are not blurry. Rather disappointed as the software is absolutely awesome.
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Complaining here won't help - you all have to spam Samsung with lots of emails.
This is not something that is going to get fixed with a software update, maybe improved but not fixed. Having a 13 MP camera using tiny lens and sensor will inherently cause a situation where it takes longer to gather a sufficient amount of light, hence longer exposure times and slower shutter speeds. This is the price to pay for being able to capture lots of detail out of a tiny camera. The S4's camera should not be used to capture moving targets.
Or is mine bad?!? Seriously, is no one else getting this problem with blown highlights and over-exposure, or are y'all accepting it? I bought this phone for its "superior camera" and while yes it can take pictures in low light I was not willing to give up taking good pictures in good lighting >8(
I installed Android Revolution 8, then 9, to get the "updated" camera- stock kernel, Dev. Ed.
Attached photo taken with stock camera with auto settings, no custom settings, no hdr (though that has been disappointing as well). Oh and white balance was about 5-800 Kelvin too yellow as well... (sigh)
So do I send it back to get cameras as good as everyone else's or start watching the Sony rumors again? Because my 18 month old Galaxy Note could get this picture right...
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The camera is awesome, its just you have to play around with the settings. Cange the sharpness to -1 and contrast to +1 for day light pictures. Also focus manually before taking pics.
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What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...
I also find the camera disappointing. I love the software features like Zoe, but I personally can't rely on this camera to quickly capture a good picture. And I don't think the low light performance is very good either.
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Those pictures do not look nearly as good as pictures I have taken with mine,using stock settings. Here's a couple for example. The pictures look a lot better in original format as well in full resolution.
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I love this camera, it lacks the raw specs but it manages to capture those special moments very well, better than even a camera.
The camera has impressed me so far, especially the speed and the amazing colours.
Completely stock trickdroid settings for camera here
@jeeptrash love your cat
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My camera is working fine too
it's not perfect but it works
john291 said:
What were u expecting from a phone camera?
If you want realy good pictures you need to buy a good standalone camera..
The time isnt still there (and will be for along time) before phone cameras can compete with good standalone cameras...
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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The overexposure thing is a little annoying it's true. HDR mode seems to recover lost shadow detail but doesn't seem to help with blown-out highlights.
Setting contrast to +1 is definitely *not* going to help it.
When you know there will be difficult highlights, setting exposure to -1 in normal non-HDR mode seems like the only response. Not ideal I know. Especially when making such a simple, temporary adjustment requires a lot of fiddling around with menus.
Yep, been playin with my camera all day, had no work in. Found the adjustment settings werent fine enough - swung too much one way or the other on +/- 1.
And indoor pictures where theres any daylight showing (doors/windows etc) caused the images to be washed out, even when focused on the lightest part first.
I think the hardware is fine, just some software improvements are needed. So its not all bad.
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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Hello yes it have the white balance problems sometimes..
I think they need to finetune the software better..
But it can also make some nice pictures too...
But a fine tuned software would be great..
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John, my expectations are to not move BACKWARD in quality. Trust me I carry my X100 half the time, but the other half this phone was supposed to fill in and it doesn't cut it.
It's your phone also blowing highlights and having white balance problems? I'm trying to understand if this behavior is typical or not.
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By the way this was a simple picture i took out of my window..
Here i like the shadow detail and the natural look of it..
The camera does over expose yes. If you want an easy to use camera. Get the S4/iPhone 5.
Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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Can you control, ISO, shutter speed, Exposure compensation?
Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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You can control iso but you cant get below 100..
The shutter speed cant be controlled manual..
The exposure can be set.
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Turn ISO off automatic and set it to like 50
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ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave
The latter option.
I second, go for the latter
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ISO & exposure yes, you can, and even better if you want to monkey with settings for every shot I recommend FV-5 which I use frequently
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...NvbS5mbGF2aW9uZXQuYW5kcm9pZC5jYW1lcmEucHJvIl0.
The point of my post though is not to find workarounds but to see if this is COMMON, or my camera chip has issues.
I'm puzzled by the lack of complaints out there and feel like the photo I posted was a good example of average sunny day conditions, done badly. Indoors, low light, we're fine, it's the sunny days that are the issue.
Everyone quiet means either
a) everyone is accepting poor quality sunny day photos
b) my camera has issues and everyone else's is fine
c) everyone is feeling a little bit bad that the camera they were promised would offer 'a great leap in the quality of point-and-shoot photos and video' (http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/) frankly isn't, and reluctant to say so, or
d) other?
So everyone shooting sunny day pics please chime, in I appreciate your input- if your pics are coming out great without clipping I'll start the RMA process, or if yours are getting blown I'll fire up the angry fan-boi machine and pester every HTC channel I can hit with requests for a camera update.
Cheers,
Dave
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I have posted few times in this forum about disappointing camera or my expectation is too high. Maybe the next HTC software update would fix them. I like the speakers though which is undeniable to be the best.
Camera is superb.
But it's not all things to all men. If you prepared to fanny around with lighting, settings, angles etc for a photo, and expect a high res masterpiece, this isn't your bag. If you want a point and shoot camera which takes nr unbeatable pictures quickly, then this is it.
Mega bright lights will screw any photo up. Your picture is remarkable given the phone was able to cope at all.
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I love the camera on the Z2... when it focuses properly.
I've never had such a bad phone at focussing!
I also get the odd shot that's over processed into a mush but that's another story and something all mobile cameras can do on occasions.
Went to my eldest's first nativity play today and tried to film it, end result the back of people's heads in front of us were in focus but the kids on stage?
Nah they were a blurry mess.
It's not just the constant focus seeking for no reason in videos that annoys me either.
With stills, generally it's 50/50 if I get a focussed shot or not.
When I do the results are fantastic (as long as you use manual white balance)
Half the time the camera doesn't focus properly with touch focus or doesn't focus where you want it.
If I just try infinity focus and let the camera sort itself out I get a few pictures that the camera focuses on nothing, the entire shot is out of focus.
Never had these problems with the M8, Note2, GS2 that preceded my Z2 so I don't think it's me.
I know that the Z2 has focus problems in less than brilliant light which doesn't help (unlike the M8) but it's making my mobile photography pretty hit and miss.
Unfortunately the shot often looks fine on the phone but when viewed on a large PC monitor it's obvious the shot is useless.
It's seriously making me consider leaving the Sony stable in the next generation next year which would be a real shame because the phone itself is the best Android out there for me at the moment.
Sony really have to sort out their camera processing, if Apple can do it with a Sony lens there should be no excuse for Sony.
Either it's just a Sony thing or my phone is faulty but like I said some of the pictures I take have stellar focus and colour balance but on the whole... not.
Sorry just needed to vent some frustration!
First of all this must be moved to Q & A threat,second - After the 4.4.4 update the Superior auto mode is even crappier then 4.4.2,so if you make your photos that way...its normal.Try playing with the Manual mode with 20mpxls and if you want a full focused picture - go with Multifocus mode and Multi metering,and ofcourse this is just the beginning.If you still experience those kind of focus problems see if ur camera glass antireflection coating is not removed. / scratched/ (the glass itself is not scratched.) If so - give it to sony centre for repair. You can check when putting the glass on bright light.
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First of all this must be moved to Q & A threat,second - After the 4.4.4 update the Superior auto mode is even crappier then 4.4.2,so if you make your photos that way...its normal.Try playing with the Manual mode with 20mpxls and if you want a full focused picture - go with Multifocus mode and Multi metering,and ofcourse this is just the beginning.If you still experience those kind of focus problems see if ur camera glass antireflection coating is not removed. / scratched/ (the glass itself is not scratched.) If so - give it to sony centre for repair. You can check when putting the glass on bright light.
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Thanks, for the advice.
I must admit I have started using Manual mode more often than Auto now because under artificial light all the auto shots turn out orange and over processed.
I'll try Multifocus and metering now.
kibbster said:
Thanks, for the advice.
I must admit I have started using Manual mode more often than Auto now because under artificial light all the auto shots turn out orange and over processed.
I'll try Multifocus and metering now.
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Try to configure the focus tô touch or center,may solve you problems .
FrosteezBR said:
Try to configure the focus tô touch or center,may solve you problems .
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No, touch focus is ropy as hell on this phone, often it won't actually focus where I want it to, and if it does often it'll focus on a pin point area and blur everything else.
kibbster said:
I love the camera on the Z2... when it focuses properly.
I've never had such a bad phone at focussing!
I also get the odd shot that's over processed into a mush but that's another story and something all mobile cameras can do on occasions.
Went to my eldest's first nativity play today and tried to film it, end result the back of people's heads in front of us were in focus but the kids on stage?
Nah they were a blurry mess.
It's not just the constant focus seeking for no reason in videos that annoys me either.
With stills, generally it's 50/50 if I get a focussed shot or not.
When I do the results are fantastic (as long as you use manual white balance)
Half the time the camera doesn't focus properly with touch focus or doesn't focus where you want it.
If I just try infinity focus and let the camera sort itself out I get a few pictures that the camera focuses on nothing, the entire shot is out of focus.
Never had these problems with the M8, Note2, GS2 that preceded my Z2 so I don't think it's me.
I know that the Z2 has focus problems in less than brilliant light which doesn't help (unlike the M8) but it's making my mobile photography pretty hit and miss.
Unfortunately the shot often looks fine on the phone but when viewed on a large PC monitor it's obvious the shot is useless.
It's seriously making me consider leaving the Sony stable in the next generation next year which would be a real shame because the phone itself is the best Android out there for me at the moment.
Sony really have to sort out their camera processing, if Apple can do it with a Sony lens there should be no excuse for Sony.
Either it's just a Sony thing or my phone is faulty but like I said some of the pictures I take have stellar focus and colour balance but on the whole... not.
Sorry just needed to vent some frustration!
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I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.
sam_conrad said:
I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.
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I may try a different camera then.
I don't use 4k or 60fps usually so probably no loss there.
Thanks.
sam_conrad said:
I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.
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Thanks for the tip!
Been playing with Google camera today and I've got to say it's far more accurate for focus than the stock app!
HDR in Google camera works better than stock as well, although it's slow.
Shame I can't override the default camera button behaviour because the hardware button is a handy way to get into the camera quickly.
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Thanks for the tip!
Been playing with Google camera today and I've got to say it's far more accurate for focus than the stock app!
HDR in Google camera works better than stock as well, although it's slow.
Shame I can't override the default camera button behaviour because the hardware button is a handy way to get into the camera quickly.
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HDR in Google Camera used to be exclusive to Nexus devices but Google opened it up in the last few updates. It also does HDR at 20.7 MP but Google Camera lacks extended options like ISO speed control and such.
I switch between manual mode in the Sony app and Google Camera depending on the situation. For videos, the Google Camera app definitely wins in focus speed and accuracy. The software developers and engineers at Sony really need to get on the same page!
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HDR in Google Camera used to be exclusive to Nexus devices but Google opened it up in the last few updates. It also does HDR at 20.7 MP but Google Camera lacks extended options like ISO speed control and such.
I switch between manual mode in the Sony app and Google Camera depending on the situation. For videos, the Google Camera app definitely wins in focus speed and accuracy. The software developers and engineers at Sony really need to get on the same page!
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The only shame with Google cam video is it doesn't have the steady shot that Sony camera does.
I guess the lack of constant focus shifting makes up for that though.
Oh and there's no doubt Sony's software engineers are the cause of most of the camera issues and need to sort it out!