Wi-Fi direct and android beam - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've been playing with my nexus 4 for the past week or so. And I'm pretty good with tech and Android, but for the life of me I cannot seem to get android been to create a Wi-Fi direct connection to transfer files. It just keeps creating a bluetooth connection. It takes a good 30-40 seconds to get a picture sent across, real frustrating... Am I doing something wrong? I've looked around and some sources say jelly bean introduced Wi-Fi direct for android beam while other say no Wi-Fi direct. What is going on?
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Android beam uses Bluetooth not WiFi direct. What you might be thinking of is Samsung's S-Beam which does us WiFi direct.
Edit: Jellybean did introduce WiFi direct but not for Android Beam.
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Is there any way to use Wi-Fi direct then? Samsung's UI usually allowed a way to transfer files using it, but not sure how to do it now.

yahoowizard said:
Is there any way to use Wi-Fi direct then? Samsung's UI usually allowed a way to transfer files using it, but not sure how to do it now.
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Which is what confused me. Because on my note 10.1 one if the options under share is Wi-Fi direct; I've find no such option on my nexus.
And Bluetooth only is quite stupid, anything larger than s contact takes an unnecessarily long time to transfer. I really hope they introduce Wi-Fi direct sharing and beak compatibility for the next version.
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You can find WiFi direct in settings -> WiFi -> then the menu dots button (or whatever they call the replacement to the menu button)
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There is a great app called Wi-Fi direct. I use this and all the time to move files around between my devices. You create a group and have to accept the invite from your device and bam.. direct WiFi.. device to device.
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You can find WiFi direct in settings -> WiFi -> then the menu dots button (or whatever they call the replacement to the menu button)
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I have done that. Connected my two Nexi together but I still didn't have an option to share using it.
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File Expert Pro is a free file manager app and is able to send files via NFC initiated WiFi Direct transfers. Both phones need File Expert Pro installed.
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How fast are Wi-Fi direct speeds, to anyone using them. In my head, I think it's not limited by anything other than the speed of the Wi-Fi chips, so it should be really fast, but I'm not really sure what real speeds would be near.

I never measured I move my whole titanium backup file with 300 apps in less than 10 minutes.. I will try to do a speed test this week. It is fast though..
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The beam though is something else. You literally have to almost touch devices and you can only send one thing at Time like a Web page, picture, Google maps page.. Etc.. It is very fast but not for moving large amounts of data
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NFC issue

So I received my Nexus 10 Today and have been playing with it for about an hour and a much as I love it, I have a weird issue.
When I try to send something, a picture or contact for example, by NFC, it opens the play store and fails to receive!
Any ideas?
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The phone I am sending from is an S3.
The Nexus will receive webpages and YouTube links but when I send a picture, it opens up the play app store.
Confused!!
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chugglet said:
The phone I am sending from is an S3.
The Nexus will receive webpages and YouTube links but when I send a picture, it opens up the play app store.
Confused!!
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From settings turn off the S3 / Samsungs own version of photo sharing and turn on the standard android version. Sorry I can't remember exact names but I know the Samsung/Android versions of NFC Direct are different.
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From settings turn off the S3 / Samsungs own version of photo sharing and turn on the standard android version. Sorry I can't remember exact names but I know the Samsung/Android versions of NFC Direct are different.
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S-beam I think
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Yep, S-Beam uses wifi direct, while standard NFC is Bluetooth.
I have tried that.
Unfortunately the S3 gives me the message "S Beam is off. Turn on S Beam and try again". The Nexus still opens up the play store!
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I have just found a link on another site that says that because the S3 uses Wi-Fi direct and standard Android uses Bluetooth, it can cause a major headache! Does anyone know any way to permanently disable the S3 S Beam?
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On my S3 I have the option to disable S Bean. Enable NFC and enable Android Beam. I would imagine this would enable it to work. Will have my Nexus 10 today but for now I'm just advising without any experience.
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On my S3 I have the option to disable S Bean. Enable NFC and enable Android Beam. I would imagine this would enable it to work. Will have my Nexus 10 today but for now I'm just advising without any experience.
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I have the options to turn S Beam on or off as well as Android Beam. Unfortunately it doesn't work in any mode.
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Where are the NFC chips located on the device? I am having trouble locating them.
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NFC Sharing

Has anybody tried to use the NFC feature? I tried to use it with a galaxy nexus and an S3 and no luck...this is a feature I was really looking forward to
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You have to activate it. Turn NFC on in settings >>more >>NFC.
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I was just doing it today at Thanksgiving dinner with 2 different Galaxy S3 phones. It works really well.
Depends what your trying to send. I tried sending a picture using beam from my note 2 to my nexus 4 and it didn't work, it did using drop box. I'm assuming it had to do with the two gallery apps not being the same.
It is activated. And I tried sending photos too but it didn't work. I sent a YouTube video though. Its all I could send
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sending pics only work on Jellybean. If the other device was still ICS it won't go. I tried to send a pic to my GF's Skyrocket and it wouldn't go. sent one to my sister's gNex with Jellybean and it went just fine.
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It is activated. And I tried sending photos too but it didn't work. I sent a YouTube video though. Its all I could send
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It's because they don't use the same gallery app.
paper_kiwi said:
Depends what your trying to send. I tried sending a picture using beam from my note 2 to my nexus 4 and it didn't work, it did using drop box. I'm assuming it had to do with the two gallery apps not being the same.
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Not true. Something wrong on your end. I sent a pic from my nexus 4 to note 2 today. Used NFC and gallery open only on nexus 4.
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It's because they don't use the same gallery app.
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No it isn't. The Gallery app doesn't have anything to do with it.
When you share a picture over beam on a stock Jelly Bean device the receiving device understands that the content to be transferred is a picture and opens a Bluetooth serial connection to the sending device. The file is then transferred over Bluetooth.
Samsung has enhanced this process starting with the S3 (S-Beam) to use Wifi-Direct for much faster transfers. However they invented their own way of doing things (as they often do). Google stated they have plans to migrate to Wifi Direct as well in a later release once the standards flush out (it didn't make it into 4.1 though and doesn't appear to have made it in to 4.2).
The issue from the Note 2 to the N4 is likely a mismatch in that the Note 2 is going to try to use S-Beam (which doesn't work with non Samsung Touchwiz devices) and the N4 is still looking to leverage Bluetooth tunneling.
Going the other way (N4 - Note 2) should work assuming it's running Jelly Bean.
that guy right there^^^^ Nailed it!
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WiFi direct not working

Hey guys. Today I received my x909 in the mail and I was trying to transfer video and music from my Sgs3 Via WiFi direct.
The problem is every time I try to pair or connect my find 5 with my old sgs3 the find 5 disconnects from the WiFi which in returns fails the transfer
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Hey guys. Today I received my x909 in the mail and I was trying to transfer video and music from my Sgs3 Via WiFi direct.
The problem is every time I try to pair or connect my find 5 with my old sgs3 the find 5 disconnects from the WiFi which in returns fails the transfer
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I just used Wifi Direct together with an Xperia Z with the SuperBeam app. It worked like a charm, so you could try to use that.
Try super beam. Its amazing!
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Tiplite2004 said:
Hey guys. Today I received my x909 in the mail and I was trying to transfer video and music from my Sgs3 Via WiFi direct.
The problem is every time I try to pair or connect my find 5 with my old sgs3 the find 5 disconnects from the WiFi which in returns fails the transfer
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Superbeam didnt work for me(One x) and trust me I'm a huge wifi direct user,It used hotspot tethering transfer which is slower than wifi-direct.Use wifi-direct app from the playstore.It is great for sending files and did work between my note 10.1 and my One x.Side note samsung doesnt let anyone transfer files by wifi-direct from other devices natively because it uses its own method to pair its devices.U can easily send files using native wifi direct between 2 samsung devices but not with others.Wifi-direct app (by j4velin)will do it for u!!:angel:
Super beam got the job done. Thanks guys
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[Q] my nexus 4 bluetooth ruins the wifi (drops)

So, when I turn on the bluetooth and connect it to anything, like headset or stereos, speakers, there is some wifi drops every 10 seconds or less which is so annoying, cant watch a youtube video or browse easy and everything is ruined, so how to fix that? And is that only me? Im rooting my phone next week, cause that was a replacement and on my old nexus 4 never used bluetooth after 7 months , so dunno if i had that on my old nexus 4 or not.
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I have the same issue, when you use Bluetooth it interferes the 2.4GHz radio waves created via WiFi chip, 5GHz works fine on WiFi with Bluetooth on.
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Sorry im not good at these hardware stuff, but how can i change it? Is it in the router settings or inside the phone, thanks!
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Sorry im not good at these hardware stuff, but how can i change it? Is it in the router settings or inside the phone, thanks!
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Unfortunately that is where the problem comes in, I am not sure if it is hardware or software which is causing the issue.
If you want to keep connection on WiFi with Bluetooth then for now you have to use a Wireless Router which supports 5GHz (to enable support on Nexus 4 go to settings, WiFi, advanced and then Wi-Fi frequency band which will show up a list, choose "Auto" for 5GHz and 2.4GHz).
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Its software, fixed in android 4.3
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Its software, fixed in android 4.3
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It's not fixed when I receive a call in my car the n4 drops wifi. And that was the main reason for getting a wifi router in my car. I'm on 4.3 My galaxy Nexus does not have that problem. This needs to be fixed soon.
I dunno, its fixed since i flashed the 4.3 paranoid android rom, and google support sent an email saying that its fixed in android 4.3 and they said that cause i called them several times because of that issue, Ive never had this issue on my gnex, but I had the gnex when it was on 4.1.2, i heard that its a bug in 4.2.
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S Beam/NFC slower?

Hello. Its been a while since I shared a picture/video via S Beam. First time i used it months ago, pictures were passed instantly (to friend's Note 2). And so yesterday I was trying to send a picture (to friend's S3), it was darn slow. Took 6-10 seconds. I know a little about S Beam, uses NFC and WIFI direct.
So heres my question. Do i need to be connected to a WIFI so I can get the speed?
-months ago I believe I was connected to WIFI
-yesterday I was not.
I havent tried yet myself, not until my friends come over. Im a bit curious. I think my phone is broken? hmm..
You don't need to be connected to WiFi. Sbeam uses WiFi direct.
You get disconnected from other WiFi networks when WiFi direct is used.
I prefer to use superbeam. I personally don't like sbeam or any Samsung app
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maxsam4 said:
You don't need to be connected to WiFi. Sbeam uses WiFi direct.
You get disconnected from other WiFi networks when WiFi direct is used.
I prefer to use superbeam. I personally don't like sbeam or any Samsung app
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Thanks for your reply. I just wondered because beaming seems sloooower than before.
xarfrost said:
Thanks for your reply. I just wondered because beaming seems sloooower than before.
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There is a thanks button for saying thanks -_-
Download superbeam from play store. I am sure you will love it
It is fast and hassle free.
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