Samsung is planning S IV to roll out in April 2013 possibly with unbreakble screen. Other features 13 mp camera picture density 441 ppi.(times of India Banaglore edition dated 7Dec2012, page18). So Note 3 may roll out in 4th quarter 2013 for which I am waiting, by that time my note 1 will be around 2 years old and I could willfully sell or give it to a family member. I think most of you will do the same thing, I shall catch up you guys there.
PS: I do not want to miss this crowd.
The best thing to do is buy one every two galaxies. I have an S2 and I'm gonna get an S4, S6 and so on.....
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I think I'm gonna jump ship to the Sony Xperia Yuga,if it comes out......with cyanogenmod leaving the Galaxy and Note lines(unless Sammy decides to scrap the Exynos SoC.....which,lets face it, is not gonna happen) and Sony offering full GPL compliance(read: almost all source code is released), I'm thinking about the Yuga.
Doesn't matter about the S-Pen, don't use it anyways; just bought the phone for the screen size and a .3" decrease doesn't seem that much different to me.
^^^This.
I don't care if it's S13 with fantastic phone features, which also gives you a BJ in the morning. Never again a Samsung for me. Ever.
Note 3 will be my next one regardless its features.
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chasmodo said:
^^^This.
I don't care if it's S13 with fantastic phone features, which also gives you a BJ in the morning. Never again a Samsung for me. Ever.
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Brickbug, no source code released despite numerous promises, CM team moving out of Samsuck development.
While we all (read I) appreciate what the CM team and team Hacksung may have done, lets face it, they are a minuscule minority to Samsung. CM also does not offer anything revolutionary over what a standard device can do, (OK, so maybe the code and is cleaner and there's less bloat, but its just as easy to remove the bloat from TW), and in terms of the Galaxy note, it actually takes away some of the most useful parts.
99% of users never even root their devices, and for them, the Brickbug does not exist and never has.
It's hardly a good reason to never use another Samsung device...Especially since they really are ahead of the curve at this point.
Just my opinion.
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While we all (read I) appreciate what the CM team and team Hacksung may have done, lets face it, they are a minuscule minority to Samsung. CM also does not offer anything revolutionary over what a standard device can do, (OK, so maybe the code and is cleaner and there's less bloat, but its just as easy to remove the bloat from TW), and in terms of the Galaxy note, it actually takes away some of the most useful parts.
99% of users never even root their devices, and for them, the Brickbug does not exist and never has.
It's hardly a good reason to never use another Samsung device...Especially since they really are ahead of the curve at this point.
Just my opinion.
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The simple fact is we arent part of the 99% that never root their phones. We are the ones who enjoy the freedom of customizing every little aspect and squeezing every ounze of performance out. Some (like myself) can't stand touchjizz and to say that cm doesn't offer anything revolutionary is plain ignorant. The fact that Samsung isn't keeping the promises they make and continues to string us along is disgusting. I was a Samsung fanboy for years but after this ordeal I won't be buying another Samsung phone until they get their act together. Maybe cm is a miniscule minority to Samsung but there are still thousands of us who come here, to xda, to tweak, tinker and get the most out of our devices and cyanogenmod plays an enormous role in that. As xda members we look for devices with dev support, you can have the most high end phone in the world but if the devs aren't given what they need from the manufacturers then what's the point in even being here? You might as well become an iSheep. I am another who will be picking up a Sony yuga unless Samsung has their **** sorted by the time they release the gs4. For a company that's fighting apple as much as Samsung is they're starting to look more and more like them every day
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+1 with not getting another Samsung. The Note will be my first and last Samsung phone.
I'm so grateful for the devs that have made my Note worth having, if it wasn't for them I would of upgraded a long time a go.
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I don't care about brand. Only real estate. The next 5.3 to 6 inch screen phone with up to par technology is getting my money.
For the record, the Note looks terrible and build quality is even worse. I didn't buy a note 2.
The market is improving too fast these days.. Barely have time to catch up tiwht the bandwagon!
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Wouldn't this be more suitable in the S III forum? I don't care one bit, since I bought the Note for the screen size.
If S IV has the flexible 5" screen I'm jumping straight.
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While we all (read I) appreciate what the CM team and team Hacksung may have done, lets face it, they are a minuscule minority to Samsung. CM also does not offer anything revolutionary over what a standard device can do, (OK, so maybe the code and is cleaner and there's less bloat, but its just as easy to remove the bloat from TW), and in terms of the Galaxy note, it actually takes away some of the most useful parts.
99% of users never even root their devices, and for them, the Brickbug does not exist and never has.
It's hardly a good reason to never use another Samsung device...Especially since they really are ahead of the curve at this point.
Just my opinion.
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I don't give a flying coitus about the 99 percent of users, I belong to the remaining 1 percent.
chasmodo said:
^^^This.
I don't care if it's S13 with fantastic phone features, which also gives you a BJ in the morning. Never again a Samsung for me. Ever.
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So what will be your next phone ?
MaKTaiL said:
The best thing to do is buy one every two galaxies. I have an S2 and I'm gonna get an S4, S6 and so on.....
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Like you said. Every odd number note is best to buy Like note1, note3, note5 so on...
Probably going to skip Samsung next time if Sony will continue their pro-development policy with Xperia Yuga phone. Don't get me wrong, CM10 runs great on my Note, but it's not nice to know some bugs will probably never be fixed because Samsung didnt keep their promise about releasing sources AGAIN. And since i hate TW-based roms, i can't stick with stock.
Anyway, Sony's TimeScape ( is this what it's called ? ) Android mod is probably the best non-aosp android build...
Well Samsung works for me. I had to root GS2 for regional font support and print screen. In GNote, I ran stock unrooted for 6 months as all that I needed were already there. Then I started exploring and flashed several ROMs. Some which are closest to Nexus version have everything in white background (eye straining). Some do not support SPen. Some had more annoying bugs than Samsung stock. So finally back to stock TW and TW is blessing. If I buy Galaxy Nexus, I will want to flash TW. When OS starts to reach maturity, having latest OS is not always required on the first day. For example - we can almost run everything in Windows XP, the same has started to hold true in Android too. And SPen is blessing, it has saved me borrowing pen from waiter and draw quick diagrams on tissue paper dozen times.
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I'm waiting for Durex 4 to be delivered.
Related
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=11313
That is a phenomenal amount of sales, and got me thinking out of all those people who purchased this phone only a very small percentage in comparasion have discovered XDA and were exposed to some of the super ROM's/Kernels/Mods/Tweaks/Themes,etc that are available.
Unfortunately this has also brought with it a serious amount of noobs who ask the same questions day in, day out without searching the forum.
[Apologies if this link has been posted already i didn't see it on here]
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http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=11313
That is a phenomenal amount of sales, and got me thinking out of all those people who purchased this phone only a very small percentage in comparasion have discovered XDA and were exposed to some of the super ROM's/Kernels/Mods/Tweaks/Themes,etc that are available.
Unfortunately this has also brought with it a serious amount of noobs who ask the same questions day in, day out without searching the forum.
[Apologies if this link has been posted already i didn't see it on here]
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i can put any bet that when the s3 is out it will be more than double that amount mate. but i am seriously thinking of sticking with my s2 till the new nexus comes out..and for only the updates alone....as codeworkx said next phone shall be nexus as updates are instant and code straight away hence why you would get nothing but the best straight away regarding firmware that is. and the s2 is doing more than it should be for me and is quite good enough..and with ICS just around the corner still got alot of life in it for me...So i shall watch the coming months with quite a bit of interest
It's gonna take a lot for me to jump ship from this amazing phone but by all accounts it will most likely be Sammy again with the Galaxy S3 if various rumours about the specs are to be believed, i wasn't tempted by the Nexus i believe they failed miserably by having not having anything for a micro SD card and only a 5MP camera, again though if Samsung are gonna charge €600+ for the GS3 that is out of most peoples reach unless they sign up to a long contract and get it on bill pay which is a big no no for me (always buy outright) so it depends on the price too.
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It's gonna take a lot for me to jump ship from this amazing phone but by all accounts it will most likely be Sammy again with the Galaxy S3 if various rumours about the specs are to be believed, i wasn't tempted by the Nexus i believe they failed miserably by having not having anything for a micro SD card and only a 5MP camera, again though if Samsung are gonna charge €600+ for the GS3 that is out of most peoples reach unless they sign up to a long contract and get it on bill pay which is a big no no for me (always buy outright) so it depends on the price too.
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true. but more than likely i will be going for the s3. nexus seems to far ahead for me still...mind you though like i said s2 still for me has another year max life in it so might just be sticking with it till i see reviews and see how the phone fairs here to be honest..but if the rumours are true what they say about the s3 it will be very hard to see any other phone beating that
Yeah i do believe the Galaxy S3 will be the absolute don daddy of them all as regards smartphones
Also I'm sick of these iPhone wankers constantly saying they have the best phone ever made, when challenged and presented with the actual facts they go all defensive and end up making a fool of themselves, maybe when the Galaxy S3 is released they might finally shut up (although many are so brainwashed i doubt it)
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Yeah i do believe the Galaxy S3 will be the absolute don daddy of them all as regards smartphones
Also I'm sick of these iPhone wankers constantly saying they have the best phone ever made, when challenged and presented with the actual facts they go all defensive and end up making a fool of themselves, maybe when the Galaxy S3 is released they might finally shut up (although many are so brainwashed i doubt it)
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No way - the new iPhone 4s(Subsection 2, Clause a, Parts iv-viii) will be out by then. It has slightly more rounded corners, is a slightly different shade of black (called Jacobean Stained Ebony), has a digital assistant that compliments your hair and asks if you have lost weight, and it comes with an app that releases onion essence whenever 'Steve Jobs' is mentioned so that the user is able to produce on-demand salty tears of weepage for the saintly plagiariser.
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No way - the new iPhone 4s(Subsection 2, Clause a, Parts iv-viii) will be out by then. It has slightly more rounded corners, is a slightly different shade of black (called Jacobean Stained Ebony), has a digital assistant that compliments your hair and asks if you have lost weight, and it comes with an app that releases onion essence whenever 'Steve Jobs' is mentioned so that the user is able to produce on-demand salty tears of weepage for the saintly plagiariser.
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hahaha classic
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i can put any bet that when the s3 is out it will be more than double that amount mate. but i am seriously thinking of sticking with my s2 till the new nexus comes out..and for only the updates alone....as codeworkx said next phone shall be nexus as updates are instant and code straight away hence why you would get nothing but the best straight away regarding firmware that is. and the s2 is doing more than it should be for me and is quite good enough..and with ICS just around the corner still got alot of life in it for me...So i shall watch the coming months with quite a bit of interest
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The nexus, ics and early firmware upgrades are overrated. What does ics do that gingerbread can't? I've already got 35gb of data on my phone so the nexus with its fixed16gb is useless.
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The nexus, ics and early firmware upgrades are overrated. What does ics do that gingerbread can't? I've already got 35gb of data on my phone so the nexus with its fixed16gb is useless.
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not denying that mate Nexus compare to the s2 no contest at all in my eyes. the only thing going for it is the first updates that it gets when a new firmware upgrade gets released and that it is easier to port to that phone and on the plus side that it is pure google...for me that is good enough reason as it is
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not denying that mate Nexus compare to the s2 no contest at all in my eyes. the only thing going for it is the first updates that it gets when a new firmware upgrade gets released and that it is easier to port to that phone and on the plus side that it is pure google...for me that is good enough reason as it is
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100% true but I don't think I will upgrade to ics even when it becomes official. My setup is perfect for me as is on Checkrom. Personally, I don't like pure Google. I'm already sick of all the custom roms coming out that replicate it. I'm sick of the blue and purple look.
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i can put any bet that when the s3 is out it will be more than double that amount mate. but i am seriously thinking of sticking with my s2 till the new nexus comes out..and for only the updates alone....as codeworkx said next phone shall be nexus as updates are instant and code straight away hence why you would get nothing but the best straight away regarding firmware that is. and the s2 is doing more than it should be for me and is quite good enough..and with ICS just around the corner still got alot of life in it for me...So i shall watch the coming months with quite a bit of interest
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I would agree with you if the nexus line hardware wise was in same class as galaxy one. Only nexus one was identical to desire by HTC, after that both nexus iterations were left wanting with their sgs1 and sgs2 counterparts. Which leads me to conclusion that next nexus will be hardware inferior to sgs3 despite 6 months difference, in which case aosp be damned...
The beauty of this phone is that, no matter how many people own it, with institutions like xda and the development scene of Android you still have the ability to have phone that is unique and set it apart from other SGS2 users. I do hope that more people will keep discovering xda and the AOSP community so that it can keep growing and improving.
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No way - the new iPhone 4s(Subsection 2, Clause a, Parts iv-viii) will be out by then. It has slightly more rounded corners, is a slightly different shade of black (called Jacobean Stained Ebony), has a digital assistant that compliments your hair and asks if you have lost weight, and it comes with an app that releases onion essence whenever 'Steve Jobs' is mentioned so that the user is able to produce on-demand salty tears of weepage for the saintly plagiariser.
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Loool! But i do believe without the iphones android phones would never be so good. I do believe it is a quality smartphone u cant deny that....but....i can remove my battery as iphone users cant lol! Always will mke me laugh lol
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I have the Bets phone in the World... And ICS Coming SOON ... IPHONE IS WELL BEATEN
Waiting for the NEXT Nexus too...
I too am waiting for the Next NEXUS, totally disappointed with the current Nexus being on Verizon with very little in the bleeding edge of technology - I have a Nexus One and that phone was rock solid and loved the super quick updates and the pure Google Experience. While I love my current Galaxy S2, Samsung insists on crapping it phone up with TouchWiz - so glad that I bought this phone unlocked and been running custom Roms ever since and haven't looked back - Come On Google, Do the Right Thing and bring back the Nexus Spirit that we come to grow and LOVE!!!
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i can put any bet that when the s3 is out it will be more than double that amount mate. but i am seriously thinking of sticking with my s2 till the new nexus comes out..and for only the updates alone....as codeworkx said next phone shall be nexus as updates are instant and code straight away hence why you would get nothing but the best straight away regarding firmware that is. and the s2 is doing more than it should be for me and is quite good enough..and with ICS just around the corner still got alot of life in it for me...So i shall watch the coming months with quite a bit of interest
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after galaxy note you will buy any Samsung mobile phone?
Seeing how the note is my third Sammy, probably. Not.a fan of Samsung's plastic choices but hardware wise, I like them.
depends on whats available at the time
My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
Yes I will - Note II / Note Plus
Samsung has always managed to appeal to my design sense and build pretty neat hardware into their phones. I've had a D900, U600, (LG KU990 in between here) Omnia II, SGS and now the Note. The D900 was a fantastic looking, robust little phone which I still have, and the U600 was pretty much the same but with a redesign and a spec bump so I had that as well. Omnia II was my first taste of smartphones and I loved it. Once Android took off in a big way, I hopped on and haven't been disappointed since.
The Note is great. Beautiful screen, massive battery and runs like butter. The new HTC OneX looks cool and comes pretty close to ticking all my boxes but the S-Pen was the clincher. I scribble faster than I can type and I have a screen of S-Memos to remind me about everything from shopping lists to memos to breathing in and out.
The delays on ICS have been a downer but GB still runs great and as a device, still goes on well. Samsung is making up for it by giving us a premium suite of features which weren't even on the radar when I bought the device so I'm not going to complain. So... Note 2? Yes please.
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My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Hehe, and most things apples patches do is stop jailbreak..
Not to big things in the small ones they send out, and 4s still have crappy battery even if they say they working on it..
Not a iPhone hater here tho, gf have one and even my daughter as they are very simple and child friendly..
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4Nde said:
My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Samsung is great compared to Dell. The Note has only been out 5-6 months. Took Dell over a year to update the Streak5 from 1.5 to 1.6 (Froyo). I don't think there has been a GB update for Dell Streak5. If Sammy is faster than a year, they're doing great! Which other Android manufacturer updates more quickly?
Besides, GB is working quite well IMHO. And the Note is well made and everything seems to work! I'm in for the next round.
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4Nde said:
My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Of course this is your personal opinion and it´s absolutely okay to think like this...but people have to face the fact, that ICS isn´t THE invention of the century, it is more like a small update that makes it possible to install the apex launcher (and some small more stuff ). And beside this, I do not know any manufacturer that provides faster updates to their users (ignoring apple for a moment).
The Note as well as the S2 are two MONSTERS of devices! An incredible camera, snappy/fast/smooth, resistant and even with GB they are still the headliners on the market. Ignoring some apps, there´s nothing to miss atm, it is more about nerdy minds to always be on the newest trip. And: We bought a GB device, so they don´t owe us anything.
BTW: Just check the S2 user com...e.g. the quality of the cam got worse with ICS...and as a matter of fact I do not know ANY smartphone with ICS that beats the S2/Note cam quality atm. I want a device that is WORKING and that delivers some functions which I can really USE within the day. And that´s exactely what samsung delivers imao...
So in my case: Yes, i will stay with samsung...
after my current note, next one will be maybe galaxy s3, if it wont give me satisfaction,will be waiting for note 2 : )
Samsung are making good handsets lately,but I have learnt one important lesson here with my first Samsung Phone ever:Get your bread direct from the Bakery !!.
Meaning,it is always a wise decision to get your phone from a dedicated manufavturer,not from some company who beeing busy in making washing machines,TVs cameras etc..have no time left to support certain devices.
last three devices are all samsung. I have htc work phone which i hate.
I want a phone that works and will last long enough for me to sell on fleabay. I couldnt care less regarding the operating system i.e GB and ics, aint the end of the world at all,
Take a look at Asus and the transformer, they update faster than anyone great huh, hmmm shame about the hardware. As they say you can polish a turd but its still a turd.
Give me solid hardware at a good price, and thats what samsung nail every time
Bring on note2... Can't wait til October... Bring it...
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And whats wrong with HD2,I have been using it for the last 3 years now and is still working like a Swiss watch,I have flashed at different times many OSs on it,just changed back to WM from Miui's ICS,sorry if I offend anyone here but being a 78 years old veteran I bear a special affection at my heart for the WM.
Damn,my wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G is still on Honeycomb 3,1 while my son's have been updated to 3,2 months ago!! and when side by side you can easily observe how inferior the former is in comparison.
I had a couple of Htc smartphones, then an S2, and now the Note. Hated the Htc's, loved the S2, and like the Note even more. So my next phone will probably be the Note 2, unless somebody comes up with something like the Note but better.
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Meh...maybe...
The thing is, the Note is a beautiful phone and i would have bought it no matter what company made it. This is my first sammy phone and it could be the first of many or the last one. As long as the community on xda is strong and the phone itself is amazing i couldn't care less about the company. I have to say though, Samsung has come pretty dam far in the last few years, its unbelievable.
For me, it really depends on how Samsung handles this whole broken-kernels-that-destroy-eMMC fiasco.
If Samsung remains silent on the issue, the Note will likely be my last Samsung device. If another broken kernel manages to get through testing and is officially released (see the SHW-M250S/K/L sources), the Note is guaranteed to be my last Samsung device.
While I don't like their hardware design, nor do I like their historical track record, Sony's recent history of developer support has been highly commendable, and if Samsung keeps blowing it with regards to their total noncooperation with developers, I'll be making the jump with my next device.
Yes, and to be more specific, i will wait for Note 2. I was a HTC fan but, lately, it did not impress me. HTC ONE x , because it uses tegra 3, it is a flop, in my opinion, inefficent and power hungry CPU, no were near Exinox refinament. Samsung offers something witch is crucial for me.. good low light video camera (no ghosting) and USB OTG.
Samsung make good phones overall. Nobody makes a perfect device. Just levels of tolerances that one accepts. I have had 2 other Samsung phones and they were excellent, really excellent. Tbh whilst I want ICS I couldn't care that much since ginger bread is stable. And I prefer stable over everything else.
I probably won't be getting another phone until my Note dies - I love it that much. If Sammy are still top of the heap by then I will probably go the Sammy route again.
I also don't really understand the whole 'Samsung lied to us stuff'. I've struggled to find anything from Samsung that said they'd deliver ICS on the Note by the end of Q1 2012, everything I've found is hearsay or relating to Samsung devices generally (i.e. We'll start rolling out ICS updates in Q1.)
Well they haven't lied. The SGS2, the phone with the largest user-base was updated first... And the phone with all the extra complications of a screen approx four times the size and with a stylus, etc has been delayed. Not a surprise to me - only to those who bought a device with one OS version thinking it would have another IMMEDIATELY!
Its not even like ICS is much better... I flashed ICS Stunner and within a week I was back on stock GB. ICS offers a few good touches (bookmark sync, slightly better UI performance, data usage limits, face unlock (which p***ed me off mo end), etc) but basically its still Android and we've already got that.
... Il never buy samsung hardware againi give them 1 month to fix all the bugs who is with me??????
I am afraid I am not with you. I don't mean to say that Samsung shouldn't resolve all this, they must but I think despite all theae issues here and there, Samsung products are good, for me I would say better than the competition. Its not that you won't find issues at all in HTC forums or Sony forums, Apple is **** so I won't even consider including it but basically every company has its issues, and I don't really care for the brand TBH, if I find a better product, I would buy that, simple as that..
And far as note goes, it had no competition whatsoever so we all had no choice. And it hasn't disappointed me one bit. I am expecting better things only in the note II considering it might get competition from HTC, just a rumor though.
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I would buy another make if it was better than Samsung , but at the moment Samsung is best in my opinion.
Also i hate built in battery`s so HTC and Sony are an no no.
John.
ok ... i'm with u
but we should inform samsung about our work
may we do this on it's page on FB ??
If they dont fix eMMC, I will say hello to HTC. I also missed SenseUI
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Every manufacturer has bugs. The reasons I have stuck with Samsung are:
They release source code for almost everything, and usually pretty fast. This leads to very mature development here at XDA for their devices.
AMOLED screens.
My experience with their customer service has been very good. They actually fixed a Captivate I accidentally hardbricked for free, even after I told them why it didn't work.
Say what you like, but if you like control and modification on your phone, they are wonderful. If you just wan to take the package with a few options and be happy with what they give you, the other guys are great, too.
Samsung also have the best disaster recovery options avaliable for their devices. Apart from the odd extreme circumstance *cough*eMMC*cough* you can pretty much restore your device to a working condition with a combination of Odin and stock firmware files, regardless of how badly you frelled it up. I <3 Odin. Try doing that on, say, an ASUS Transformer. Personal experience has shown me that without a massive amount of yohtzing around, you are royally boned.
Note has bugs...yes
Samsung has bugs...yes
Others have bugs...absolutely yes
So you have no way to go without bugs my friend.
So, as long as it's not a brick and most features are working we could still be with it.
Cool story bro.
Samsung will greatly miss your $200. Hopefully they don't file for chapter 11 after you leave!
Get serious kid. No one gives a ****, and apparently the other millions of happy customers are speaking much louder than you.
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... Il never buy samsung hardware againi give them 1 month to fix all the bugs who is with me??????
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And which phone manufacturer doesn't have any bugs?
I don't like samsung for those firmware support. But I don't have choice. Only future Note II is a competitor for Note. Other manufactors are idiots, because they don't want to produce 5" inch smartphones with normal stylus.
I can take the notes few bugs any day over the current HTC offerings misgivings and all the beats software audio de-enhancements.
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I'm sure their stock prices just went tumbling down...
As soon as you leave samsung you will have to meet worse companies. I did, so I know.
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Really? I think Samsung is a very good company. I'm no Samsung fanboy but if a better device comes along I'll buy it. So far the note has been with me through thick and thin. This is the third longest smartphone I've ever had. That means something.
The note has issues. Sure. But you can get around some of them. The brick bug? Don't upgrade to stock ics. I did and I didn't like it for other reasons. It was their first attempt and a good one but still. I have had a ton of phones and Samsung generally has had the least amount of bugs for my use. Apple was bad. I sent back 4 before just selling the new one they gave me. Blackberry had issues, too. Motorola as well. Every device has problems. I just think Samsung generally does a good job.
The note is still a somewhat flagship device for what it is. I think well get a lot more updates. I hope so at least. Regardless in another 6 month's I'll one upgrading to another decide. Hopefully the note 2. If not it'll be another device with a large screen and higher specs.
If you don't like Samsung or their policy that's fine, trade sell buy. Just because they're not working for you doesn't mean another company won't either. But be warned: every device has issues. Otherwise if a perfect device ever comes.out then that's it. No more upgrading ever. It's somewhat intentional. Most companies keep the newest tech for the next device to keep you upgrading at least every 2 years.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
I have always thought of Samsung as "Scheissung" and was always scared by their plastic feel... but S2 and Note is great, and i'm hooked up because of one thing: AMOLED displays. Until some other brand will make phones with AMOLED, i am staying with Samsung. I know that AMOLED displays have some issues, but it's relatively new technology, and I seriously believe that AMOLED is the future of displays - but that apart, i just love the blacks and rich colours
Does anyone else here feel like the note was just a temporary stepping stone before the s3? I mean support from Samsung about the notes black crush and emmc issue have been ignored, most of the devs have jumped ship (not that I blame them) but I just feel that in half a year the notes dev community is going to start grinding to a halt :/ its sad because its a wonderful device and I love it but it just seems to have been moved on from so quickly by everyone. I mean look at the amount gb dev for this device! ICS comes along finally and not much has been done to it because people have moved on. Its a real shame :/
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I have yet to own an Android phone that HASN'T happened to (large portion of Dev's/users moving on to the "latest and greatest").
We still have some great dev's though, I dont feel too worried.Along with the fact that many of us do not care for the S3 so I don't see as mass of an exodus as many previous Android phones I have owned.
That and it's not like we have a vast choice of phones to compete with the screen of the Note, which in all fairness, is why a majority of us are here. It would have to be a whole lot more of a phone for me to want to downgrade to a 4.8" screen, and that is NOT the S3.
Note 2 on the other hand... I suspect to see the Note community get much quieter
I was only thinking the other day how quite the note development section is now a days.
Why?
There are only (for me) 4 or 5 custom roms that are of use to me. And only 2 of those see regularly updated. The rest are old and using old Sammy releases or cm9 of which i tried but never been a fan of. As for kennels their is only speedmod for me and hardcore does not seem to update very often and in my opinion is the only stable one but is lacking in development to reach his high standard.
I agree that with this device I would of expected a lot more going on with it.
Its a real Shame coos I too did expect more and its getting rather stale at present.
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its how android market is in general buy newest next best thing a few months around the corner
Also note is distinct enough not to qualify for steppingstone in my humble opinion
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I love my Note, probably the best device I've ever had... But I wish there were some kernels with bln! It really annoys me...
/CK
Personally? I have yet to see a device that scales the massive 5.3" size. Sure there WAS the DELL Streak before? but it's already been antiquated into oblivion (well there are still developers working on that device I believe, and most Streak users would bashed me for saying as an antiquated device ).
Anyway again, It's not much but just a personal choice or preference on why most people have jump ship to ride on the S3 hype.. I truly believe, given the size comparison alone, My Note is still a strong contender in any given smartphone field.
People can be superficial nowadays... all want to catch on what's in and what's the latest... some are in just for the heck of it.. and mostly are for JUST THE HYPE of it.
It's cool to brag along nowadays.. when you got the latest quad-core phone.
Personally I don't give a damn about people going overboard to the S3.. I am fully contented with my Note and what it can bring to my needs.
and you know what?
I gotta tell you, I went to a pub last week, there was this moron who was brandishing and showing off on how cool his S3 was.. He showed to a lot of guys inside, how smart his phone is, he toyed around, savoring the delights of the dudes there, playing games, using his SMART STAY and his POP PLAY... I can clearly see he was getting a lot of Ohhss and ahhs.. from the crowd....
hmm.. so what did I do? hmmm, nothing.. I sat beside him, popup my NOTE and played POP UP video and open up my POP Browser and played youtube video inside it. I then drag the two apps side by side on my phone.
Conclusion? Nothing.. the poor bud (upon seeing my Note playing those videos) literally just walk out of the club!!
So again, there's no shame having this massive phone with massive capabilities and features.
It can par up with dem quad-core joes.. ANY TIME OF DAY.... yeah!!.
Note rocks and Samsung knows it.
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Yes I also feel like the note was a stepping stone. Some tried to claim that the note was the s3.
carbonassassin, could you please consider resizing your signature. It literally takes up half the screen. Just a polite request. sorry if I come across as rude.
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carbonassassin, could you please consider resizing your signature. It literally takes up half the screen and is a bit much.
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Any phone is a stepping stone.
Galaxy Note @ mobile
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Does anyone else here feel like the note was just a temporary stepping stone before the s3? I mean support from Samsung about the notes black crush and emmc issue have been ignored, most of the devs have jumped ship (not that I blame them) but I just feel that in half a year the notes dev community is going to start grinding to a halt :/ its sad because its a wonderful device and I love it but it just seems to have been moved on from so quickly by everyone. I mean look at the amount gb dev for this device! ICS comes along finally and not much has been done to it because people have moved on. Its a real shame :/
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-1. sorry to say- S3 can not tale the place of G.Note, may be Note 2 and mostly Note 3 overtake.
is that true there there's less development for the Note now? So you mean I gotta go buy the Note 2 now to keep up? No SGS3 for me, it's WAY too small.
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I love my Note, probably the best device I've ever had... But I wish there were some kernels with bln! It really annoys me...
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Yes I think you will have to move to note 2 as very soon Dev's for note will cease
If you want the best support, get a Nexus device.
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It is called technology. All things in technology are so called as "stepping stone".
If there's no new products, means, technology go stagnant...
Means, developers are dead. No fantasy, no imagination, no development.
I like android, whereby the development is super fast. I thought I was just changing from froyo. Now we are on ICS alrd.
next will be Jellybean ? after that ? Will samsung stop the android, and move to Tizen ?
And it's a good strategy to use opensource like android, whereby, the software development can be just leave it to all developers. And manufacturers like samsung, htc, etc just concentrate on developing new products, and tease the end-users.
But, as a developers (programmers), just be frank... will you stay on old "toys" when the new "toys" are coming out ?
From what I know (since I'm a programmer also), I like to play with new toys. And if the new toys is much better, why not keeping on developing the new one ? As the old one, I will keep on maintain... But only when I can spare my time.
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I don't see it as a stepping stone but more of a test run.
The phablet market was completely open and unknown. So Samsung being the crazy adventurer they are decided to step in and "give it a shot".
If results were good, they would release a bigger and better one and give that one more support.
If it failed then, meh.
Clearly it hasn't failed hence the upcoming release of Note 2.
I agree that we lack a large range of developers, as compared to more popular devices like the S2 or the Nexus, but because this is just like a "trial" I'm sure as the phablet category gets more popular the Note 2 will attract more incredible developers.
Is anyone up for the idea to start a collection to buy the CM team a N7100 so they can start working on getting us cm10?
When I spoke to xplodwild this was his reply
Guillaume (@xplodwild) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Fri, Oct 05, 2012:
@iseeguy Assuming someone do it, because as of now nobody have one neither wants to buy one.
(https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/254149189792047104)
I'm happy to organise this with the CM team to kickoff development
Who's thinks it's a good idea?
I've donated to previous initiatives and will again
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
This is why I'll keep my note 1
Already on Jb PA
Maybe when development for the note 2 is already a big boy is change for it. Probably not.
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Well said!
Far enough, but it was worth a try
Can the mods please delete this thread.
Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Entropy512 said:
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
I completely support this especially if its just for a dev to do it unofficially, but remember guys we can't hold the dev responsible for getting it done. You have to go into thinking your donating for the dev to have the phone and use it as they like not donate thinking your donating for that dev to be obligated to bring cm10. In the rezound forum we got a phone for protekk to help with aosp and people got demanding and were expecting him to bring it since they donated. This tore apart that community for a long time. So if you donate do it as a donation and not an expectation
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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I would say that Paranoid Android is absolutely perfect for the Note. S-Pen can be handled through different applications like GNote, Memo etc. The ability to run applications in tablet mode is such an enhancement of the device that I don´t see any single feature with the Note II that somehow "compensates".
I can agree that pure CM10 isn´t the most interesting thing on the Note II since it has the phone UI but Paranoid Android is a completely different matter.
Since PA relies on CM, it is very important to get it for the N7100 in order to get going.
Windowed applications is very nice but also a feature I guess will be implemented in either AOSP or CM in the future. Don´t forget Overskreen and FloatNote etc.
I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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erick161 said:
To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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Let agree to disagree then!
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
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There's a difference between challenging, and utterly freaking impossible.
Challenging: Going through source and fixing bugs or adding new features. For example, for months I've wanted to try and rework the Exynos suspend/resume code to be more power efficient. (It locks cpufreq at 800 MHz and disables cpuidle for the entire suspend/resume cycle, which eats power. Also SOME interrupt service handler eats huge amounts of CPU on resume (the root cause of the classic Gingerbread "Android OS" bugs), and I'd like to figure out which one and see if it can be optimized.
Utterly freaking impossible: On a routine basis, figuring out what Samsung broke in their blobs and why it doesn't work the way it should. Trying to take totally broken nonfunctional source code and get it to work properly with zero documentation. See hwcomposer - unless a miracle happens, we will be continually stuck fighting blobs that Samsung gave us. Their blobs have some sort of significant magic not present in any reference source. The reference source creates a broken piece of **** that's almost indistinguishable from not having any hwc at all.
I've spent 10-20 hours or more per week of my spare time over the past three weeks fighting hwcomposer and making absolutely zero progress. I'm tired of flailing against a brick wall and getting nothing other than bloody knuckles.
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I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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No, porting CM10 won't be easy due to shared hardware with the S3. Have you noticed no Exynos device has M builds? Have you noticed that Exynos devices are almost always one of the last "flagship-class" devices to receive nightlies?
CM9 should never have been marked stable on Exynos devices - too many bugs remain and we lowered our standards for "stable" too much.
CM10 on Exynos is incredibly far from reaching M builds let alone a stable release and I don't think we have the manpower, motivation, or energy to take it to to the finish line, let alone the documentation needed to do so.
And what about CM11? The whole mess will just start all over again, if any maintainers are left on Exynos by then. Again, we'll be flailing against undocumented crap that didn't even quite work right with the Android version it was designed for, while those working on platforms that have proper documentation and reference source (OMAP and Qualcomm) will start moving ahead immediately. See JB on Qcoms - They took only a month or two to get ahead of where Exynos4 devices are NOW, 4-5 months after JB went live, and over half of the work those guys were doing was forward-merging CM customizations from CM9.
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I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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To me a reliable OS is all that matters. But you didn't get the point what I've tried to say.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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That's the primary reason I got my Note. Even if it didn't have a stylus I would've bought it for the screen.
Also, there are now plenty of pen apps that use the standard Android stylus APIs, so the Samsung-specific stuff is irrelevant at this point. For example, PS Touch works just fine on the Note 10.1 in AOSP. So does Quill, Papyrus, Memo Beta, LectureNotes, and a number of other apps.
The only thing beyond that which is missing are stylus gestures, and that's primarily an issue of manpower. I would've forward ported and cleaned up masiullah's pen gestures patches a month or two ago if there weren't a pile of other massively broken things unrelated to stylus.