[mini Guide] Note 1 vs Note 2 Worth the upgrade? Gamers beware & points to consider

[mini Guide] Note 1 vs Note 2 Worth the upgrade? Gamers beware & points to consider - Galaxy Note GT-N7000 General

[mini Guide] Note 1 vs Note 2 Worth the upgrade? Gamers beware & points to consider
I think it is important to realize the following, because the question comes up a lot
Should I upgrade from a Note 1 vs. Note 2?
This guide may help you show that each Note can stand tall on its own - except for the unarguable, exceptional battery life of the Note 2.
The phone (and probably screen) area remained exactly the same.
N7000: 146.9 x 83 x 9.7 mm ....;12193 ( http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_n7000-4135.php )
N7100: 151.1 x 80.5 x 9.4 mm ....12163 ( http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php )
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The N7000 has 10% (102400) more pixels (which naturally also consume power in terms of physical constraints on efficiency - depending on the display technology and of course computing power).
The diagonal often does not reflect screen size all that well, and has probably a historic basis (back when the only relevant viewing ratio was 4:3). You should consider a phone's display technology (and energy consumption), dpi, size and screen ratio.
If you write a lot, get the GN1, if you use your Note more for entertainment consider the GN2.
The Note 1 has 1 GB ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517200 ), the Note 2 has 2 GB of RAM. With Android becoming a flagship project and rapidly advancing software this is no longer sufficient. Restarting applications impacts CPU load, and thus the user experience and battery life.
The Note 2 has LTE
Both phones have the similar display technology but with different pixel layouts ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925185&page=2 ) and almost same software with the latest (pending) official updates...
The Note 2 Screen is brighter
Both phones have the same Exynos 4 processor generation. In Intel's parlance, the Note 2 features a new processor "Tick". Only the new Samsung Chromebook and Google Nexus 10 feature a new "Tock".
Both phones have a Mali-400MP Quad Core GPU ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos_(system_on_chip)) . The Note 2 has doubled its CPU power (Quad core) and is slightly more energy efficient. This is not sufficient to provide you with playable next-generation graphics. From what I have read many Nexus 4 buyers are to some degrees interested in gaming.
NFS Most Wanted (actually not quite next-gen) :
Blood and Glory: Legend, http://img.talkandroid.com/uploads/2012/08/blood-and-Glory-legend1-420x230.png
( http://www.talkandroid.com/129214-g...ry-legend-brings-next-gen-graphics-to-mobile/ )
Horn:
The Dark Meadow:
( Link: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...-engine-3-headed-to-tegra-devices-early-2012/)
Here is one of my tests ( http://www.siliconstudio.co.jp/english/ ) :
Compare this to 59fps:
You can benchmark NextGen graphics ahead of Futuremark's bechmark-suite release, via MOBILE GPUMARK.
http://www.siliconstudio.co.jp/english/benchmark_e.html
The Note 2 has long battery life. Less pixels, similar screenarea, 28nm Exynos, improved networking chips and 3100mAh vs 2600mAh battery in the Note 1, adds to up to twice the battery life of the already long-lasting Note1.
The Note 2 has Wireless charging and NFC
A gaming ready Note 2 competitor is already on the market,....but not from Samsung. The Pantech Vega R3 IM-A850L.
Some report Quadrant benchmarks of 7100 points. South Korean market only, atm!; ca 700$.
Specs:
http://www.gsmarena.com/pantech_vega_r3_im_a850l-5021.php
Please also read the user-comments for fact-checking and personal experiences. - This guide will be updated accordingly.
If I forgot something, please post it below...

You should get you facts straight before posting.
The screen on both devices are not exactly the same as you mentioned, they are different in sizes, resolution and more importantly pixel arrangement, making the screen of the GNote 2 sharper even with lower resolution. And no more black clipping !
And they don't have the same processor as you mentioned...the note 1 got a dual core and not a quadcore one
Not to mention the Note 2 is way more energy efficient so it's better aall the way, doesn't matter if are a gamer or a writer or whatever
The only thing to consider between these two devices is the price, that's all
Do you really own any of these devices?
Perhaps you just edit your first post, by adding this instead:
http://youtu.be/0i93I0w0fko
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betoNL said:
The screen on both devices are not exactly the same as you mentioned, they are different in sizes, resolution and more importantly pixel arrangement, making the screen of the GNote 2 sharper even with lower resolution. And no more black clipping !
And they don't have the same processor as you mentioned...the note 1 got a dual core and not a quadcore one
Not to mention the Note 2 is way more energy efficient so it's better aall the way, doesn't matter if are a gamer or a writer or whatever
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I have to agree with OP. Of course, it's always nice to upgrade if you have the money. But I actually used both Notes 1 & 2 and this is what i have to say about them:
Screen on Note 2 actually looks smaller. That's just an illusion caused by the phone's dimensions and screen ratio of course. Can't agree that Note 2 has sharper screen etc. to me they look exactly the same.
As for black clipping - that's probably the biggest difference between them, although i'm not so sure it's a hardware problem... it's present on Note, S2 and S3 - I've also seen it on Note 2 - it's better, but it's still there.
As far as CPU is considered - the OP mentioned that Note 2 "doubled" it's CPU power - which is also not really true. Going from 2 cores to 4 cores doesn't mean an instant 100% performance boost. It is much faster, but bear in mind that both devices run THE SAME MALI GPU. It's like putting new CPU in an old PC - it will run better, but don't expect FPS-miracles.
My conclusion:
1. Note 2 is great, if you have spare money and feel like upgrading - go for it, we'll all do it someday, but...
2. ...don't feel "left out" with your Note 1 because it's still a more-than-great device and for most of us Note 2 has nothing that requires an immediate upgrade if you don't have any spare cash for Samsung.

I actually prefer the looks of the Note 1 to the Note 2, For me, the Note 2 looks like an oversized Galaxy S3.
And my Note has no lag, I can play all the latest titles and have great graphics. For me, the Note 2 isn't a worthy upgrade from the Note 1.
I'll be sticking with my Note 1 until the release of the Note 3 (or some other similar device from a different manufacturer)

We badly need adev to come up with a oc kernel that we can use 2sd on. Loved it b4 jb, for the ram boost. Made a lot of difference.
The note 2 is not worth buying in the uk due to lack of 4g.
I'll wait as you said there is nothing wrong with the note one.
There are too many blogs, sites like cnet,etc, in the pocket of oems, to make us feel as if we are missing out.
From the man in your attic...

azzledazzle said:
I actually prefer the looks of the Note 1 to the Note 2, For me, the Note 2 looks like an oversized Galaxy S3.
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Same here. S3/Note 2 look good, but i really prefer S2/Note 1 design.

Once again , it's not about preferences, or which one to buy our how deep your pocket is...
It's about OP giving wrong technical info.
Just see the review I posted on second post of this thread and make up your mind
If I could not sell my Note 1 as good as I did, I would probably have not bought the Note 2 cause I was satisfied with it too
But I did and now I am more than happy with my Note2
It's already kicking it out of the box!
Hardware-and softwarewise, amazing features (see the video)
And that large battery makes a large difference too!
Happy user here
And don't speculate about devices that you never handled yourself...
And this thread oughtta be close, really...
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@betoNL. You corrected me. It is a community. I'd like to think, that everyone chimes in, in his own unique way.
I for one consider the N1 not a full upgrade but an expansion of Samsung's product line.
Don't speculate on me never having used GNotes.... - especially when I posted my benchmark result in the post

My thoughts on upgrading
Hi all, I would like to add my 2 Euro cents to this discussion. First of all I only own the Original Note (N7000), which is why I can't comment specificity on the Note 2 (N7100) but I would like to say something that might not have been brought up before.
With the holidays season coming, and with some frustration with the battery of my Note 1 (not claiming it is not good, as it is better than any smartphone I had before it), but still when reading a lot or taking notes I find that I get a bit worried when I am in a train or at a long meeting if it will last. It usually does, but still the extra peace of mind would do wonders for me. The only thing that I turn off (because I never use it) is bluetooth the rest is ON 99% of the time (my use pattern).
I bought my Note because of the possibility to take notes during meetings, but I find the device to be average at it. With the ICS upgrade it became much better (smoother) but still it is not as good as I would like it to be.
That is why I would like to know if the Note 2 has improved in this matter. If anyone that has tried them both could let me know, I would appreciate it.
Now for what I consider before I upgrade.
1) Is the device still supported and how long will it still be supported (officially, but most importantly by the XDA community)?
- in this the original Note had some problems due to the brick bug, which I blame for many good developers moving to a different device (it has been solved with the safe Kernels, but the harm has already been done).
2) Does it perform well in everyday tasks? Are there any tasks which I would find useful that it can't perform?
- So far the original Note has done a very well job at it. I can't think of anything that I could not do with it. Maybe the NFC chip would have been a nice addition as my mother's Galaxy S2 has one. But the important question for me is how much did the S Pen function improve from the N7000 to N7100 (feel free to come back with your thoughts)
3) Market value. (buying now Vs waiting for something else to come).
- Well maybe because I studied Management I always think of how much it is worth (2nd hand value) and compare it to the price of the next generation one.
As I am not rich (middle class income) I can't go and buy them as soon as they are released. That is why patience and good price searching are essential. As I look at it, Galaxy Note 2 is now priced new for 499 EUR. This is quite a drop from the 650-700 EUR I have seen it 3 months ago.
The original Note can still be sold for about 310-330 EUR (in a very good physical condition), all the original accessories and maybe a protective case and some screen protects, so I am seeing the upgrade would now cost me about 150-170 EUR depending on the selling price. That is not bad, in my perspective.
The real question is what will happen to the price of the original Note with the constant release of new devices by the competition. You have the Galaxy Note 2, but also the Nexus 4, HTC, LG and others are also launching bigger and better devices.
We can no longer claim it has the biggest screen and even normal smartphones (not phablets) are coming close the 5 inches. We can't claim the best battery life, as even the Galaxy S3 with its 2100 mah battery has better mileage (of course smaller screen, lower resolution and more efficient components have an impact).
And many of the good developers have already moved to the Note II, or if they did not move, they own one already and are actively developing on it.
All this makes me wonder if sticking with the original Note will makes sence, or if it will loose so much value that when something really cool comes (let's say that the Note 3 will be a huge upgrade) it will hurt my wallet almost as much as it did when I bought this one.
Sorry for the long post but these are my thoughts, feel free to come and bring your points of view on this topic.

bloodyduke said:
Lastly, I have often read that many Nexus 4 buyers are ultimately also interested in gaming - and that sentiment isn't always made clear.
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with 16gb of memory and no micro SD??
I doubt it... decent games these days take up gigs of space... you'd be lucky to fit 3 or 4 on one of those.
besides.. LG hardware, really ****.

The screen sizes do, whilst not by vast amounts, differ as do the processors. The Note 2 is superior in every imaginable way, but at the same time not a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. Many of its software features are getting ported over with the upcoming Jelly Bean update, so only upgrade if you really want quad-core performance.

Both phones deffer in the conception - GN1 is phoneblet while GN2 is oversized phone. If you compare them in landscape mode the difference in the aspect ratio is eye pocking ...
But anyway - i wanted to understand which is the game from the first set of screenshots?

I can't see upgrading just for single gen bump in processor right now. The GN1 is plenty fast for everything right now. The new aspect ratio is a downgrade in my opinion. Its only 32px, but its the difference between a standard tablet res, and saying without the 800px design of some websites. Of course if I were buying new I'd still get a gn2, but I'll wait for the gn3.

Spo0f said:
Both phones deffer in the conception - GN1 is phoneblet while GN2 is oversized phone. If you compare them in landscape mode the difference in the aspect ratio is eye pocking ...
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OMG
Have you seen the pics?:
If you dont know , the wider one is the Note1, Which one you think is better to handle?
Did you see the comparison? http://youtu.be/0i93I0w0fko
This is too funny :laugh:
I'm out of here
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1. I haven't seen the picture - i'm holding them in my hands.
2. Did you saw the words "aspect ratio"?
3. Can you make a difference between aspect ratio and size?

I can second the statemet that the Note 2 is no worth updating if one already owns a Note. But I have to add that the OP just wrote down a list of incorrect or plainly false technical specs. Almost every word he wrote down about specs of the Note 2 is simply no true. It's not the same processor, the screens are very different (not the same technology).... Even though his intent was to help people decide which device they should buy he really should have read more before he posted.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note

altae said:
I can second the statemet that the Note 2 is no worth updating if one already owns a Note. But I have to add that the OP just wrote down a list of incorrect or plainly false technical specs. Almost every word he wrote down about specs of the Note 2 is simply no true. It's not the same processor, the screens are very different (not the same technology).... Even though his intent was to help people decide which device they should buy he really should have read more before he posted.
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That's all I was saying, incorrect information given on first post
If one wants to upgrade or not, that's totally personal....
I made somebody very happy, by selling my Note1 to Him for 300 €
I sold another gps device taht was collecting dust in the drawer and only then, got me a Note 2
So me, myself and I , am also very happy with the Note2
Happyness to all
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Spo0f said:
1. I haven't seen the picture - i'm holding them in my hands.
2. Did you saw the words "aspect ratio"?
3. Can you make a difference between aspect ratio and size?
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My friend, the new aspect ratio + the new pixel re-arrangement, just make the Note2 a better phablet, and not an oversized phone as you mentioned, specially in comparison with the Note 2
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-display-comparison-112812/
Please. get real .....
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Bought GN2 after 1month gave it to my wife took back my precious GN1
GN2 is a great device its almost perfect that u don't even think u need to root it . Screen is better, processor is faster, s-pen smoother ( but use GN2 pen on GN1 screen u will have same performance) and last even the quality of sound when u do voice call is better.
All these stuff i don't give a sh*** about it coz the screen is squeezed and it's annoying while reading in landscape mode and even keyboard become small and its hard to type during landscape mode
Cheers
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

betoNL said:
That's all I was saying, incorrect information given on first post
If one wants to upgrade or not, that's totally personal....
I made somebody very happy, by selling my Note1 to Him for 300 €
I sold another gps device taht was collecting dust in the drawer and only then, got me a Note 2
So me, myself and I , am also very happy with the Note2
Happyness to all
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My friend, the new aspect ratio + the new pixel re-arrangement, just make the Note2 a better phablet, and not an oversized phone as you mentioned, specially in comparison with the Note 2
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-display-comparison-112812/
Please. get real .....
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Please stop interpreting my words as you like.
I haven't said a single word about pixels, ppi, resolution, screen tech etc. I'm talking about aspect ratio - 16:9 vs 16:10. Which does not have to do with anything else but the width vs height ratio.

Brad387 said:
The screen sizes do, whilst not by vast amounts, differ as do the processors. The Note 2 is superior in every imaginable way, but at the same time not a worthwhile upgrade in my opinion. Many of its software features are getting ported over with the upcoming Jelly Bean update, so only upgrade if you really want quad-core performance.
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Except the screen. Believe it or not, but I do not want to sacrifice those 80 pixels. I generally zoom to pixel perfection within a pdf and then continue on reading at the zoom-level. I also considered it more spacious for taking notes on the go. I like to read page by page, not zoomed in paragraph by paragraph.
The Note 2 wouldn't even have made it onto my radar, had it not been for the insanely cool SPen functions and Wacom typical hover: A precision input device with hover is the minimum requirement for serious Remote desktop-ing.
I just read this battery report ( http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-battery-life-test-is-complete-here-are-the-results/)
Prior to that I read up on pentile displays, and that it is not for cost but energy efficiency.
Doe anyone know: Is pentile AMOLED the most efficient display technology on the market? How about Igzo displays?
PS: Regardless of Note 1 or Note 2, we sure love them

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Totallyyy heavily confused between s3 and note ! !

Hey guys i need your help urgently ! !
I am in a big trouble of buying a smartphone.My 2 choices are galaxy s3 and note.
these are the points that i like about each:-
galaxy s3:-
1.Best performance
2.Lots of added features
3.one of the best camera with burst mode too
4.Great battery life
5.WOLFSON
galaxy note:-
1.bigger better screen imo(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
I know that s3's ppi is better but that mere 15ppi doesnt mean anything to me
2.Its by far much better looking than s3
3.spen
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
So here my maib questions are:-
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu?
because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
I am in hurry for gettibg one because in india we have some offer for note,in which samsung gives sennhieser headphone,flip cover,3000(60usd) games totally for free and this offer experies on 31st may.So what to choose?Even the note 2 will be launched in may be september,so is buying note good idea?
so plzzzzzz help meeeeeeee. . ... ...
thankx to all in advance....

Don't get note for now. I think you should get the best Samsung out there aka s3.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.

you should simply go for s3 , it beats note on all aspects except the screen size(if you like the bigger screen).
s3 packs the most powerful gpu for a mobile that are released so far.

Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...

Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?

Personally, I'd go for the newer, better spec'd SIII over the Galaxy Note.

pikulu said:
Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?
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Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know

m33ts4k0z said:
Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know
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C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...

Meemo23 said:
Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...
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I'm sorry but I really hate these types of responses. It doesn't offer the OP any real advice either way. He's asking specific questions about performance and quality and answers like this don't tell him anything.
Edit: OP, get the S3 and don't look back. It'll have much better dev support as well, being a flagship device.
Herp derp Captivate XDA Premium App.

Easy, get the Note now, enjoy that big ass screen. Then get the Note 2 and sell the old one.

I hope the Tmobile SGS Note comes with the S4 processor....

I had the Note and I'm planning to get the SIII. I think if you are a business or artistic kind of guy or use EverNote or have other uses for the wacom pen should be your main reason for getting it.
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu? because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
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You can refer to these benchmarks for now, the Note will be slower, but for real world usage it fast enough to perform any mobile tasks, due to the dualcore Exynos at 1.4ghz. It has the same Mali GPU as the S3, you shouldn't miss out much on the gaming side. I'd say inevitably the S3 will perform faster for gaming, but I don't think will big enough of a difference to matter (besides the typical nerds bragging rights).
Games will still look nicer on the Note big screen. Another advantage with its large screen is if you use onscreen gamepads a lot, you have large area to move your thumbs so the controls seems to register better. It's decent enough that I can play a lot of 'classic' games without needing a physical controller. I think the S3 will be on par too though since its a big screen too.
(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
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Do not worry about screen brightness for either devices, both Note and S3 will be very bright with these AMOLED screens. The Note at 100% brightness is equivalent to staring at the Sun.
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
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I don't have an SIII yet, so I don't know. As for the Note, if you have lots of stuff installed on a non-rooted Stock rom, there will be some lag in animation with touchwiz interface, but if you custom rom and use a lighter launcher, its smooth. It also have ICS now, so that might improve things.
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
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I don't know, I don't have the S3 yet, there are new software features and improvements with the S3. But large screen of the Note is a winner here obviously to me, text will be just a bit bigger, sometimes you don't even need to zoom in. It is possible that the S3 can render webpages faster, but I don't know.
Overall, it will be a hard choice, if depends on how much cheaper you can get a Note over the new S3, if you can save at least $200USD by getting the Note over the S3 than its a good deal. If you enjoy large screen estate go for Note, its easier for reading and watching HD movies on it is fantastic. It has excellent camera, great battery life (2500mAh, ICS as well, and better look (imo). If I was someone who already have a Nexus or Note (international), I would not upgrade to the S3, unless I have money to burn. I will get the S3 though since I always want to try the latest stuff and it has some interesting new software features that I don't think Samsung will port to older models because they want you to buy their latest phones.

Same "dilemma" except I have the Note.....I say BUY the Note USED.....try it then decide. You can't lose too much. I have never bought a new International device. Probably won't with the S3 either.
I love the Note's screen. In fact that is the reason I bought one. I still have a back up SGS2 but will sell that when I get the S3 and use the Note as a back up to our phones. The DAC is what tipped the scales for me. I had an iTouch mounted to my bike and had plugged in my earbuds to it when I went for longs rides. (and short ones) The Captiave, SGS2 and Note relagated my iTouch 4 to permant duty on my nightstand alarm where it inevr gets used as my phones also are my alarm clocks.......Be really nice to have some VooDoo Sound again. (Although VooDoo Louder came in handy on my bike.)
I am HOPING I won't miss the screen size of the Note and the trade offs for the many benefits the S3 has to offer in may other areas are worth it. Such as the ease of pocket carrying ( I LIKE the rounded corners LOL) , the many additional features, The Pen is something I do use and will use more since flashing to official ICS as it is virtually no lag anymore.
The SGS2 screen is too small for me anymore. I am not going back there. I think a slightly smaller screen will work better ergonomically.
I have no issue with using the phone with two hands although ICS now has "one hand mode" for the Note" where the keyboard and dialer are rendered smaller and moves to the left in effect giving on the same size as an S2 or iPhone.
Then the Note 2 may or may not come out if those using Note find the S3 covers all the bases well enough.

Sledgehamma said:
C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/3/2996873/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-accessory-c-pen-allshare-hub
This is one article talking about that pen. I think there is an actual photo of that pen somewhere.
I think we are talking for 2 really nice phones here but if you would ask me, I would choose SGS3 since it has better screen (pixel density and other improvements).

For me if the gs3 supports the pen feature...then its gonna b my next phone
Sent from my Xperia Neo V using XDA

Guys i tried a lot for convincing myself to go for the s3,but my heart doesnt allow me for that Its still crying for the 5.3 inch hd samoled
So plz tel me how will be the gaming performance on both?
The main reason bothering much is now its the quadcore season so many apps will be made accordingly for the quadcores......So can i still be able to play those highly graphich demanding games at a good fps on note?
Only the processor is the factor that is stopping me from getting galaxy note! !

I will go for GS3. But, I still have a soft corner for Note. I will suggest OP to wait for Note 2.
Here's my reasons -
I suspect (no insider information, purely connecting dots) Note 2 will have Exynos 5 SoC. I think Exynos 5 just went into mass production in Q2, and was never ready for being implemented into SGS3.
We definitely can expect incremental update in Note's screen. So, either it would be HD SAMOLED PLUS or something like a PenTile 1600 x 1000 resolution keeping the aspect ratio same as OG Note.
But the most important factor could be Samsung huge marketing and developer push for S Pen apps.
They now have a $ 4million prize money for Note and Tab apps. Just a month back they had another S Pen app contest.
http://www.smartappchallenge.com/eng/main.do
You could be getting much better Pen apps.
In either case, both phones will have great support and winner in their own respect.

The note has much more of a "tablet-esque" functionalities to it with handwriting recognition and such.
S3 has only standard android handset features plus the newly demoed items which are unrelated to a tablet style larger screen interface.
For me the question you need to be asking is "do i need tablet functionality and screen size more than i need processing/graphics power and the new added features in S3's touchwiz (smartstay, svoice etc)?"
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pikulu said:
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
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Huh? I think the answer is clear which phone you want.

It would be extremely handy to have som release information on the next Note, now. I am considering getting that instead of the SGS 3. I have the SGS 2 and the only thing I miss is screen real estate. And lots of it

Totallyyy heavily confused between s3 and note ! !

Hey guys i need your help urgently ! !
I am in a big trouble of buying a smartphone.My 2 choices are galaxy s3 and note.
these are the points that i like about each:-
galaxy s3:-
1.Best performance
2.Lots of added features
3.one of the best camera with burst mode too
4.Great battery life
5.WOLFSON
galaxy note:-
1.bigger better screen imo(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
I know that s3's ppi is better but that mere 15ppi doesnt mean anything to me
2.Its by far much better looking than s3
3.spen
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
So here my maib questions are:-
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu?
because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
I am in hurry for gettibg one because in india we have some offer for note,in which samsung gives sennhieser headphone,flip cover,3000(60usd) games totally for free and this offer experies on 31st may.So what to choose?Even the note 2 will be launched in may be september,so is buying note good idea?
so plzzzzzz help meeeeeeee. . ... ...
thankx to all in advance....

Simple answer. Get both! Having only one cell phone is so 2011...lol!

planoman said:
Simple answer. Get both! Having only one cell phone is so 2011...lol!
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So true lol

Get note if u want a larger screen and the fns of an s pen
Else go for s3

once you use the note you cannot go back to a smaller screen. if you ain't used to the note's screen, go with the s3, it's much better spec'd. you'll need it!
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For gaming, the S3 or xperia play (i love mine)
For anything else, galaxy note.
(I think they have the same camera hardware, and software features will probably be ported.)

According to several reviews, all too often you won't even feel the benefit of the quad cores on the s3. It has same pentile Amoled type screen as Note (except it is much larger on Note). Plus, this whole 'inspired by nature' thing just seems a little too desperate a marketing technique for me (imho). I would go for the Note.
Best idea maybe would be to maybe have a half hour play with both in a highstreet store when s3 is released, to make your own mind up...before choosing the Note ;-)
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If you can wait get the s3, if you want something now the Note is awesome. I'd love to have one.
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Well if you're considering the S3, why not through the HTC One X into the equation?
Although I love the idea of having the best specs, I doubt I would be able to tell the difference in terms of CPU (HTC One X and S3 being QUAD core) and RAM as all of the devices seem quite comparable and I haven't noticed any QUAD optimised apps yet, so I would think the user experience for me would be more important.
For me, personally, it comes down to mainly the following:
1. Cost (The Galaxy Note is a bargain right now - I paid £550 in November 2011)
2. Screen Size (I love the Notes Screen and don't think I could go any smaller)
3. UI and Battery Life (From my experience HTC smart phones have crap battery!!! I have owned a HTC Desire, HTC Desire HD and a bag of pre-Android HTC phones)
4. Longevity of the Device (Life-span for updates eg. although the Galaxy Note came out on GB I still bought it because I feel that it will continue to be supported for a while due to the device being an important milestone for Samsung. I'm hoping to get two updates out of the Note and when it stops being supported officially, I'm sure there will be some unofficial updates, or I trade-in for a Galaxy Note 2!!!)

It really depends what you prefer, or how you prefer things to be done with the device.
For me the only upgrade for the Note would be the Note 2, as the S3 which was very tempting for me too (some special features, Quadcore (just because I'm a bit freakish 'bout hardware and not because I really need it ^^) in the end has no S-Pen (bad for me, I hate browsing the internet without it) and is too small (tried that size and I don't want anything smaller than 5,3 inches). Also I do not need the new hardware as I don't play 3D-games or other intense graphics stuff with the device, and the CPU/GPU of the Note is far away from limiting anything for me.

This is from the perspective of someone who owns a note and is not looking to buy SGS3.
Wait until you can have a "hands on" play with the SGS3. For me, I can't see the benefits of the processor so I won't buy one.
However - I am frustrated with the note's ability to play back movies. I am not really a person who uses the note much for watching media... but the black clipping issue frustrates me nonetheless.
If I was an avid movie/tv watcher, the issues with the note would be unacceptable.
In summary:
a) wait to play with SGS3 and get comments on video playback quality.
b) if you are a movie/audiophile, buy SGS3 if video playback is good.
c) if not, buy the note.

The note is a like a drug. If you use it, you will NEVER use a smaller screen again... so your big decision here is, do you want your friends saying, "Yo, pull your laptop out and bring up those pics you took" Lol. I think its by far a great phone, and spec wise, I play lots of games on it, its probably not "as" smooth for gaming as what the sgs3 will be so if that's a big deal you might lean that way, but everything else...note rules.

Get the Note if you are comfortable with the size of this device.

pikulu said:
Hey guys i need your help urgently ! !
I am in a big trouble of buying a smartphone.My 2 choices are galaxy s3 and note.
these are the points that i like about each:-
galaxy s3:-
1.Best performance
2.Lots of added features
3.one of the best camera with burst mode too
4.Great battery life
5.WOLFSON
galaxy note:-
1.bigger better screen imo(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
I know that s3's ppi is better but that mere 15ppi doesnt mean anything to me
2.Its by far much better looking than s3
3.spen
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
So here my maib questions are:-
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu?
because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
I am in hurry for gettibg one because in india we have some offer for note,in which samsung gives sennhieser headphone,flip cover,3000(60usd) games totally for free and this offer experies on 31st may.So what to choose?Even the note 2 will be launched in may be september,so is buying note good idea?
so plzzzzzz help meeeeeeee. . ... ...
thankx to all in advance....
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I don't see any reason to get confused at all. First of all how could you compare a product which is selling currently(whose performance is well known) with a product yet to be released(whose performance is not known)?. Both of them maybe from same company but targeted at different category of people. If your aim is to update yourself with the latest gadget in the market no matter what then you may go for S3....If you need a phone which can satisfy your needs then that's a different question....Note is for people who need a smartphone with extended options of a tablet but don't want to carry a typical tablet in their brief case.....But once you get used to it all other phones look like cute little toys to you.....I can surely bet that Galaxy Note can handle all high end graphics games, high quality video streaming etc etc and you will just love its performance...Obviously a bigger screen means better visibility, more details on the screen etc etc...So now you decide and act....Best of luck...

go 4 note !
hi mate
i waited for months before buying my note as i was waiting 4 s3 launch
man i bought my note just after seeing s3 live release on facebook
see we dont need quad core processors right now dual core s enough, i might have opted for s3 if it had a 12mp cam but its cam is still same as note's
and plz keep this in mind if it uses camera to see your eyes movement then its gonna take lot of battery which is 2100 mah compare to note's 2500 mah (sorry if m wrong)
plus the biggest problem is its ugly design... man note is sexy
the only plus option is quad core and nothing else..rest everything is software based like there was siri on 4s (not worth updating)
if u wanna wait for note 2 its ur choice but u never knw they might give note 2 same design as they gave to s3
and yeah i got my headphones they are good
regards

yeh s3 looks amazing, but i rather wait for note 2 with those all features and screen size will be same or even a bit bigger

The key word is "in a hurry"... so if 90% of the ppl ask u to buy s3, u will give up the promo? C'mon... u had ur answer yourself already...
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skillz9669 said:
The note is a like a drug. If you use it, you will NEVER use a smaller screen again... so your big decision here is, do you want your friends saying, "Yo, pull your laptop out and bring up those pics you took" Lol. I think its by far a great phone, and spec wise, I play lots of games on it, its probably not "as" smooth for gaming as what the sgs3 will be so if that's a big deal you might lean that way, but everything else...note rules.
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I own 3 phones, note, xperia play and an x10 mini pro (running CM9).
I can still use smaller screens...

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Size comparison.

Here is a video comparison of the Note and the s3.

POST ALL NOTE 2 RELATED COMMENTS HERE ONLY- Have SystemDump

TO ALL IN THE FORUM POST YOUR NOTE-2 RELATED COMMENTS/ DISCOVERIES HERE ONLY ALL OTHER THREADS WILL BE CLOSED AND/OR DELETED...
..........THANK YOU ~~~ oka1
:laugh::victory:Here is the link for the 1st System dump it is for the ATT Note2 I will get the Gsm version hopefully this weekend But this should help:laugh::victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31240992&postcount=34

Anyone else thinking about waiting at least a few good months before getting a Note 2? Maybe skip a generation? I feel like mine still has a lot to give me.

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looks good to me!

I can't wait for it!
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To sum up what I've posted in the other Note II threads:
It's not a worthy upgrade for the following reasons:
-Lower resolution than Note I
-Still Pentile
-16x9 (I prefer 16x10 on Note I, this is subjective I know)
-Mali 400 GPU (last year tech)
-Exynos 4412 (a15 is already out, iphone 5 will have it)
-Same MP Camera as Note I
-Front camera lower resolution than Note I
What I do like:
-Bigger battery
-More Ram
this is an incremental upgrade and I will wait for the Note III.

Actually, the new screen ratio on the note II doesn't look too bad compare to our old Note. From this picture, compare to the Note II it kinda makes our old Note look like the LG Optimus Vu..lol....
I think they are trying to make the Note II look more like a Smartphone rather than a Tablet

inurb said:
To sum up what I've posted in the other Note II threads:
It's not a worthy upgrade for the following reasons:
-Lower resolution than Note I
-Still Pentile
-16x9 (I prefer 16x10 on Note I, this is subjective I know)
-Mali 400 GPU (last year tech)
-Exynos 4412 (a15 is already out, iphone 5 will have it)
-Same MP Camera as Note I
-Front camera lower resolution than Note I
What I do like:
-Bigger battery
-More Ram
this is an incremental upgrade and I will wait for the Note III.
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MP at camera doesnt mean anything, mate, the quality is the factor, will u say s3 and note1 have the same camera? I would say no, s3 has 8MP camera too, but with better quality and zero shutter lag, good enough to clarify the different
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I am not seeing anything I need that justifies getting rid of my note1 - I wish I had a reason - I was ready to give my son my note1 (he was excited to get it and give up the nexus one he got from me a year ago) and have a new toy for myself in the note2, But I actually think the Note1 might be seen in a few months (when the data is in) as the better phone ( or the same w/ more dev access and cheaper used).
I like the res and aspect ratio better on the note1. I was ready to go with a bigger screen but it might not be there - in that I do not care about length in a phone, I care about width ( since a phone is a computer in my eyes for webpages and app browser/interacting), so if I understand reports right, I would actually lose width (for height) if I gave up my Note1 for the Note2. Hmm not sure I would pay hundreds for a downgrade.
I was excited about a great (read: better) camera, but that looks like the same one. The processor is not much better.
I have Jelly Bean / Google Now already ( thank you XDA devs) so nothing there software wise. And Note1 currently gives me better dev apps / roms for awhile to come.
I see no major improvements to the pen tech.
So we are down to a bigger battery ( big whoop - I have software that can conserve) and POSSIBLY fixes to old problems - like brick bug, black screen, so-so audio - but even if there is something, I have some software fixes to those. If I hear very significant improvements to these I might consider it ( amazing new sound) but I doubt it is enough. This looks like a mild yearly upgrade, for those who do not have a Note1, you get a slight updated version. It does not feel like a jumping off issue for those of us who love and want as much NOTE as we can get - I think we already might just have the best NOTE device now. Shoot, no reason to spend money. I guess I just buy another new gaming desktop instead.

Lol. I saw the video preview on TheVerge....and you can see that TouchWiz STILL stutters even with quad-core PLUS Jellybean.
At this point in technology, it's not the hardware anymore, since dual-cores are sufficient. It's all about software execution now.

Honestly i like note 1 ,it looks better and unique ... i wouldn't mind though to get the 3100mAh battery and the led notification and the 2 gb ram..

Galaxy Note vids
Hi All
I was lucky enough to attend the unpacked event this eve, and managed to get a few videos on some of the features of the Galaxy Note II recorded. If you fancy having a look head to my blog www.staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.de/2012/08/galaxy-note-ii-feature-videos.html or search for my youtube channel (Staceyraver).
Other than that all I can say is that its a wonderful device....new Spen really impressed me (along with the new features that came with it) ...1024levels of pressure sensitivity = woah
Anyway hopefully see some of you at IFA?

I like the screen recording function, this can be great if it can be ported to other devices (or at least other Touchwiz devices).

PoisonWolf said:
Lol. I saw the video preview on TheVerge....and you can see that TouchWiz STILL stutters even with quad-core PLUS Jellybean.
At this point in technology, it's not the hardware anymore, since dual-cores are sufficient. It's all about software execution now.
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lol...sounds like you really HATE the Note II.
Do you reckon the Note II will be much better seeing the quality of the Note II in such a short/ rushed introduction. I'm sure they will introduce the Note III in another year as well.
So...WHEN will be a good time to upgrade???
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Staceymobiler said:
Hi All
I was lucky enough to attend the unpacked event this eve, and managed to get a few videos on some of the features of the Galaxy Note II recorded. If you fancy having a look head to my blog www.staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.de/2012/08/galaxy-note-ii-feature-videos.html or search for my youtube channel (Staceyraver).
Other than that all I can say is that its a wonderful device....new Spen really impressed me (along with the new features that came with it) ...1024levels of pressure sensitivity = woah
Anyway hopefully see some of you at IFA?
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Thanks for the Vids...so how is the Note II screen compared to the Note I in terms of the SIZE, BRIGHTNESS and SHARPNESS?

Note 2 screen looks great. Resolution is slightly lower 720 instead of 800 but it still looks great.
Brightness seems good too.
Got to say it. I want one lol
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Thought I would make a list of hardware improvements compared to N7000:
Quad core
2GB RAM
3100 mAh battery
New S-pen
Corning Glass 2
LED indicator
Bluetooth 4
NFC (Was listed as "optional" on the N7000, never understood what that meant)
Potentially superior pixel arrangement as reported by the Verge. Still not much clarity about this
Dual band wifi, Not sure what this does but it's listed on the specs sheet
On the minus side resolution and pixel density are a bit lower but the difference will be barely noticeable: 285ppi versus 267ppi
Overall this seems a solid hardware upgrade and there are some neat software improvements as well.
And there may be more hardware improvements which haven't been listed, perhaps in the camera and DAC for example.

Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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Staceymobiler said:
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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This is just my opinion, but I never understood the interest in unboxing videos. Unboxing videos for cell phones are almost exactly the same.
Sometimes, there is interesting packaging, and sometimes seeling installs is good. (not relevant for phones though).
Although to be honest, watching Note 1's unboxing videos were fun for the first reactions to the phone 'OMG LOOK AT THE SIZE' stuff.
I am a fairly heavy user of My note - I have 250 apps on mine. I definitely feel the Note bogging down sometimes and I am quite looking forward to what the Note II brings me.
As I always advise people for ANY piece of technology - if you are quite happy with what you have now, there's little bang/buck in upgrading.
This is assuming of course, that the price of the Note is reasonable.
Does anyone recall how the Note was released i.e. the gaps between 'announced' - 'priced' ' - 'released'?
- Frank

Well it's a nice device. However 1 year isn't that long for me to do an upgrade.
Custom ROM on my current Note makes my phone a lot better than official Samsung firmware.
Now that I have read a ton of stuff on this new Note 2 on the net I have decided to keep my current Note until S4 or Note 3.
Also ATIV S has caught my attention more than Note 2. That phone is simply beautiful and it sports a dedicated camera button.

Staceymobiler said:
Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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So you managed to get a hands on with the Note 2? What was your overall impression of the build quality, screen etc?

Staceymobiler said:
Yeah the screen is a bit between RGB and pentile arrangement...but I haven't had much info on that yet.
Probably going to be posting an unboxing video later if anyone is interested?
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Lol....do you mean later today or this month? I would be very interested to see a video of a close up side by side comparison with the old note.
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Note 3 day one buy features

I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
- Frank

ChodTheWacko said:
I've been wondering what, if announced, would make the Note 3 (or any other phone) a day 1 buy for me.
There's always the incremental MORE/LESS stuff - more screen, less weight, blah blah blah
The note 2 is good enough that I don't consider any of that to be a strong selling point.
Has technology/innovation peaked? What features could/would make the Note 3 a 'must buy'
for Note 2 owners (versus the expected 'guess I'll wait for the Note 4)? Or from a business
perspective, would could make people who were uninterested in the Note 3 interested in the Note 2?
I don't think the S4 won over any S3 haters.
The only recent interesting things I've seen are:
wireless charging
unbreakable screen
Metallic body (which I personally don't care about, but it sure is making the HTC One hot stuff)
All of the above I'd love, but nothing I'd sell my Note 2 to get.
- Frank
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I want to go mad with power lol.
Octa Core!

The hardware technology is close to peaking, I think. Flexible screens are just a marketing gimmick for me, and better radios aren't really new tech but refinements of what we already have. Screens are either unbreakable but not unscratchable, or unscratchable but not unbreakable. As for power -- every week we read about how this or that development will give us vastly more powerful batteries (rechargeable in 30 seconds, no less) but the problem is, they've been saying that for the past six or seven years and we're still stuck with the same old Li-Ion technology. Wireless charging still means leaving the phone on some device or other to charge -- only you don't plug it in. Now if my phone's battery would start charging as soon as I walked in the door, I might sit up and take notice.
The only innovations that would give me an incentive to buy a new device (the Note 99, maybe?) on day 1 would be either 128GB or more of storage without a huge increase in price, or a change in Android specs to allow apps to be stored and run from external cards. Not allowing apps to run from external storage has got to be one of Google's more short-sighted ideas, given that each Android iteration, not to mention manufacturer and carrier overlays, seems to eat more and more of available storage space for its own use.
mudge
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy Note 2
Galaxy Note 8.0

in my country, note 2 now is about 30% cheaper compared to when it was launched. if thats the case in your area and since you are still satisfied with your note2, id wait for a few months until it gets cheaper before buying. as a bonus the official rom you buy might be more stable the the 1st release.

For me, personally, it would have to be a huge increase in onboard storage (I'm thinking 128GB minimum). Also, I would prefer a dedicated micro-HDMI port, instead of crappy MHL. These two things would make me get the GN3 on release day, but if not, I'll stick with my GN2 for the time being.

1080p, Exynos Octa w/LTE, more storage...yeah, I'm probably going to get it at launch. Those are enough to excite me.
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Frontal stereo speakers, Adreno 330, Snapdragon 800, metal body, 1080p 64 GB storage... these things are desirable, but still probably wouldn't buy it... and definately not on day one. Just recently got my Note 2
More likely when I switch, it will be to the Note 4... or perhaps some nice HTC/Sony. Maybe even a Nokia EOS, if such a thing ever breaks free from the rumorland....

I want a note 3 with all s4 features minus lag, screen tint and smearing issues (realistic wish list). It would be enough for a year at least. I would prefer a screen of 5.7 inch max, but it should never go beyond 6.0. The battery should be around 4000MAh. I don't care about body but design at least should not be carbon copy of note 2/s4. The minimum storage should be 32gig.

Larger screen without increasing the body size.
Larger battery, and I don't mind making the body slightly thicker either. For me battery life is more important than have it be under 11mm. I think 12mm is fine.
HD display, without a doubt.
SPen upgrade. I love the current generation, but if they can't make it any better then that'll be fine by me.
Next generation processor which I'm sure will be in there.
An awesome camera This one is good, but not that good. I'd much prefer something better.
I think that's it! If they add on a capacitive home button and an extra gig of ram I'm sold.

Thinner, lighter, better battery, full hd and 13mpix camera at least (or better if they can squeeze it). Battery life is fine with me. Processing power I don't care about anymore (it's plenty enough already).

richadorsey4 said:
Do we need to uninstall the stock app to flash this
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Nice spam. Reported.

Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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dazza7111 said:
Ill be keeping note 2 if note 3 is just a s4 with a pen and 5.99 inch full hd screen.
Maybe 3 gig of ram?
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I am afraid its going to be like this, better not to keep your hopes high, you should follow the prior trend if u want to stay realistic. I dont mind an s4 type phone but it must be morw fluid and minus all the bugs.
sent from: The New S-Pen

I hope I I'm not that bothered about it. Only had note 2 a few weeks and love it! Want it to last till s5 or note 4!
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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?

Definitely a phone I will buy, sadly I dont have the money right now and selling somo old phones is not on my plans, so if the note 3 went out today I will have to buy it in October 2014.
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sohebq said:
The minimum storage should be 32gig.
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Samsung will never set 32gb as minimum storage. They rather will cut it even more (like in galaxy s4).

Have to say I am impressed with my Note2 so far the best Android phone Ive had. Its the only phone I have not had to tamper with to make it faster. I did root it but no custom rom. Never had it die on me, been using it close to a year now and it still amazes me. Awesome device. The Note 3 would have to be significantly better to justify an upgrade. I agree with with what someone hasmentioned already, i believe we have reached a peak now....and only encremental changes will come. Else if they do decide to go all out with the Note 3...we will all be guinea pigs....like with the first samsung galaxy s.with the note 2 we have the perfect balance between battery life and performance. I still carry a spare battery around...just incase.
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It needs to have a new design. I won't buy it if it looks too much like my Note 2. Something like the GS4 Active would be awesome.

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Note 3?
Do you guys really want to struggle with Samsung's rooting/custom kernel issues, flash counters, root trackers, CyanogenMod incompatibilities?
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Yes. Don't really care, to be honest.
Oh - I'm rooted, and happily running a custom rom.
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how much better is the galaxy s5 compared to the note 3?

I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.

lvnatic said:
I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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Note series can't be compared with S series.
But so far to my observation, Note series is always have much improvement from the S-series. You can see since S2 vs. Note 1, S3 vs. Note 2, and the latest one S4 vs Note 3.
Note 1 is the improvement of S2 (design, software, hardware), same with Note 2 and Note 3.
Whichever features you see on the S series, Note series most probably will have also.
The latest one Note 3, it gets all the S4 features, plus additional Air command, because we have the S-pen.
So if you want to compare, don't compare Note 3 with S5. compare it with next release Note 4.
Cheers.

@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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lvnatic said:
I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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o yeah. agree. The stylus S-pen make it more sexy and useful compare to S-series
hahihauhehehahehehoha.
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@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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agree. The speed is much higher on Note series compare to S series. :good:
and to be frank, everything is much better than S-series (at least from what I feel).

The Note 3 is still ahead in terms of hardware compared to the S5. All the S5 has is that it's waterproof (There are cases for that, or Liquipel will add a waterproof coating if you're in the US), and a heart rate scanner (There are apps for the Note 3 that are accurate and use the camera flash.)
In return, the Note 3 has
3GB RAM(S5=2GB),
An Spen,
5.7" screen (S5=5.1"),
3200Mah battery (S5=2800),
32 and 64GB ROM (S5=16&32, and we all know the 32GB is going to be impossible to buy. As usual.)
In my personal opinion (as a designer) it looks better,
Better optimized for productive usage (Action menu, popup windows, multiscreen.)
And it costs less.
If the S5 had been what it had been rumoured to be, it would be worth considering an S5. As it turns out, no such thing.
The S5 is a dressed down Note 3. Don't waste your money on it.

If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.

S5 is just so ugly and it looks like a plaster.

LancelotSA said:
If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.
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Yes, the Note 3 has an available official wireless charging back cover and kit. Even the S4 has it.
The additional megapixels and the ISOCELL technology is going to do sod all on a 1/2.6'' sensor... Bandages on an open wound.
The 801 might be a tiny improvement (of the 'Apple-policy' variety) , but it's going to be bottlenecked by the 2GB RAM.
As for the Spen, many of us do use it every day.
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.

As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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I just checked, no bloke bits here.
I do not call 0.2Ghz an improvement. It's the same thing Apple has been doing with their iPhones, adding 0.1 or 0.2 ghz and saying it loads faster.
Benchmarks are rarely accurate in real-life useage. (theyre fun, but not useful) In real-life usage, with several apps open at once, it will not be the case as you run out of RAM fast.
The Note 3 has 2.71GB of useable RAM, with facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk, firefox and a mediaplayer open, even with Apex instead of TW, and all bloatware gone, it's using exactly 2GB.
What do you think will happen if you try that on an S5 with 2GB RAM(usable around 1.7GB, most likely) ? Any gamer, Dev, ITer and techie can tell you loads of Ghz are going to do sod all if you're out of RAM.
And it's certainty not worth 2-300 quid extra!
I did not 'fail to notice' the sensor size. The difference is simply negligible if you know your photography. It's my profession, I know my photography hardware inside out.
Sounds more to me like you've long since made up your mind. No offence, but claiming two negligible babysteps as 'improvements' is more something I would expect from an apple user.
Talking pure money vs value, which is what I was doing, the S5 is simply more money for something you can get for less.
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Well said mate.
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Well said mate.
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I agree.
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LancelotSA said:
As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?

LancelotSA said:
As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.
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Who cares if it loads websites faster? You can see more of the website on the Note 3 screen. The advantage is neutered.
I'm no fan boy either. I've owned a dozen smart phones in the last four years, including s3, note 2, s4, all the nexus phones starting with the nexus one, three HTC phones and a couple of Xperias.
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
What the OP said is correct - you don't even really need a tablet if you have one of these. I still have one but I may sell it as I only use it once a week if I'm lucky. Samsung envisioned this device as a bridge between tablets and phones and in my opinion they have very much succeeded. If you think the note 3 is a hassle to carry around, it's not. Try carrying around a tablet if you want to experience hassle.
I use the pen just about every day. I jot down notes at work and it saves me carrying around a note pad.
The camera on the s5 is still just a phone camera. It may be better than the Note 3 but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between photos taken with each device just by looking at them.
Slightly better processor true but less ram and less Internal storage, at least for most people who won't be lucky or smart enough to get a 32Gb model. The note 3 is already so overpowered that it will be good for at least the next two years. Just like the camera no one will be able to tell the difference in normal use.
So the only distinction worth weighing up is this: do you want waterproof and more pocketable or do you want a borderline tablet experience with an active stylus?
I'll take the latter myself as it fits my pockets and I've not thrown it into a pond yet.
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ShadowLea said:
That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
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You have no idea of my expertise. I was not the one childish enough to attempt to "win" a discussion by whipping out my credentials.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
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Actually not at all. I am in the Note 3 section of this forum, I'd expect nothing less than rabid fanboyism. One hundred lemmings marching into the sea does not prove much...
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
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You better have a word with the designers of the Tapatalk app then as sadly your signature does not appear when I browse the site on there. I would've assumed you knew that a world existed outside of PC web browser access to this forum.
My point is that, based on vast personal experience on the subject, owner's of a certain cellphone always feel the need to convince others that they have the absolute ultimate best cellphone. This does not apply to their previous cellphones (so your ownership history means little) as the newest device trumps all in their opinion.
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
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Let's recap shall we. I mentioned a superior camera on the S5. You wisely pointed out that pixels alone mean little and asserted that the S5 camera was not superior. I concurred regarding pixels alone and pointed out that it not only has more pixels but a larger sensor too. You then suddenly claimed the sensor size difference was negligible. I am still intrigued to hear you explain why you feel any increase in sensor size can be regarded as negligible. As an expert on photography surely you concede that sensor size is possibly one of the more important aspects of better image creation. But I will happily allow you to explain why you feel this is not the case....
You may also care to give a definitive answer on what percentage sensor size increase we are dealing with as I have an idea it is not linear.
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?
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I already conceded the Note 3 wins the bigger screen battle and have not argued this. You, however, still feel the need to argue that the S5 camera has no advantages over the Note 3.
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dr.m0x said:
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
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You cannot state an opinion as fact. For many anything bigger than 4.5" is too big. Perfect for you is not perfect for the whole world.
By the way, I love the bigger screen too. My current choice needs to be based on more than just screen size alone though which is why I am happy to discuss the advantages of each device. I am not of the school of thought that the Note 3 wins in all regards, however, otherwise I'd obviously not be having to choose. I'd have a Note 3 already. My contract upgrade was due from 1 March.

Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Pointless engaging you then isn't it...
When push comes to shove it seems most Note 3 owners have a huge problem with the perceived superiority of their beloved devices being questioned. Maybe this is reason enough for me not to own one. But then again I suppose you'll have "retard" S5 owners who will end up doing the same....
Trolling? If anything I am the only one engaging in this thread in the manner in which the thread title seemingly requested. For the rest it seems like a Note 3 fap fest whereas I am actually trying to discuss which is better and in what respects. Although I suppose I should've realised what was coming when the thread title asked the question but the first post went on to express idol worship for the Note 3.

dr.m0x said:
Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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I agree on the part that the size of Note series is just nice as a bridge between phone and tablet.
I used S1 & S2. Then change to Note 1, I love it. When S3 came out, I still bought the S3, coz sometimes I feel that small phone better. But I use it for 1 week, then I let it go. Not because I have money to throw, but, I find it no use to compare with Note 1 which I still own at that time. And then again I change my Note 1 to Note 2. At the same time I bought Note 10.1, coz I thought it would be better to have a bigger screen for work purpose. End up, I always used my Note 2 everyday at work, and my tablet I use it when it is lucky to be used (end up I always need to charge it every 3 days, and leave it dry up again for another 3 days), and most of the time, this tablet will stay sleep inside my bag. With a 1 week only 1 time usage, I decided to sell my Note 10.1 when the Note 3 come out.
And to be frank, this Note series the size is just nice. Not as big as tablet 7" to put inside the pants pocket. And frankly, I can't stand see the smaller size screen again. Nicer to view internet browser on a bigger screen, even if the size of the page is too big for 1 page, you don't need to zoom out until the wording is very small.
Whether this one opinion or facts, I only see all my friends, who has upgraded their S-series, Iphone series into Note 2, now all of them said "those phone are too small", which earlier before they use the Note series, all of them said "you are crazy to ask me to carry such big phone!"
and now all of them are planning to buy Note 3 when they can recontract in this year, without thinking of other phones.
But again, no offense, but someone is asking a comparison of Note 3 vs S5 on the Note 3 forums. I bet that person roughly should know what the answer is
Same thing if someone is asking comparison of Note 3 vs S5 (if this phone has been launched in every countries), I also bet that person roughly know what the answer will be.
Unless.... the phone is really s*cks to the end till no one love it.

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