How much is Google Services effecting your battery? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why is Google Services taking up so much of my battery use? The CPU total is only 38s and the keep awake time is 3m 16s.
By contrast, HD Widgets has used 5m 3s of CPU time and 23m 35s of keep awake, but has a far less percentage of battery life.
Any ideas?
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kgeissler said:
Why is Google Services taking up so much of my battery use? The CPU total is only 38s and the keep awake time is 3m 16s.
By contrast, HD Widgets has used 5m 3s of CPU time and 23m 35s of keep awake, but has a far less percentage of battery life.
Any ideas?
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i am having this issue too.... google services always takes top spot on usage for me too... no idea how to solve this?

Are you rooted? If so, what ROM are you using? Any custom kernels?
If not, which OTA are you on?
I'm using Paranoid Android and don't have this problem.

Stryder5 said:
Are you rooted? If so, what ROM are you using? Any custom kernels?
If not, which OTA are you on?
I'm using Paranoid Android and don't have this problem.
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I am running the stock rom, 4.2.1, rooted.

I've never even seen that process on my battery usage weird
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Rooted and stock ROM and stock kernel.
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Running the cm10 nightlies and haven't noticed this.
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Never seen that on mine at all, I'm 100%stock.
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How often do you actually use your phone? Judging by the list of apps in your screen shot and minimal screen on time, im assuming your phone is in standby more often than not. If that's the case, then the Google services are using more battery by comparison simply because you're not doing anything else that's using battery. That list shows usage by comparison. If you're concerned about it, open the Currents app and go into settings and disable notifications, also disable unnecessary notifications and updates for your Google accounts (books, magazines, photo upload, etc.) From settings > Google. Could also be Google Now.
Download gsam battery for more info on what's using battery.
And don't forget, the way that screen works is that it's saying Google services used 60% of the 17% that has been depleted, which equals about 9% in over 4 hours.
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I have done some tests over the last couple of days and it seems like the issue (if it really is an issue) relates to Tasker and using location by cell/network towers to activate/deactive tasks. I have turned these tasks off and programmed NFC tags to take its place for now.
No real battery gain by NOT using these tasks that use cell/network loction to be honest so it does not seem like google services is draining our battery enough to notice a difference.

After i disabled google now and google location services i no longer see "Google Services" show up in battery use. Previously it was just destorying my battery but now all is well :good:

ragmanchu said:
I have done some tests over the last couple of days and it seems like the issue (if it really is an issue) relates to Tasker and using location by cell/network towers to activate/deactive tasks. I have turned these tasks off and programmed NFC tags to take its place for now.
No real battery gain by NOT using these tasks that use cell/network loction to be honest so it does not seem like google services is draining our battery enough to notice a difference.
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i noticed the same, uninstalled tasker and no longer have 'google services' showing in the batt stats

ragmanchu said:
I have done some tests over the last couple of days and it seems like the issue (if it really is an issue) relates to Tasker and using location by cell/network towers to activate/deactive tasks. I have turned these tasks off and programmed NFC tags to take its place for now.
No real battery gain by NOT using these tasks that use cell/network loction to be honest so it does not seem like google services is draining our battery enough to notice a difference.
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I came to the same conclusion you did regarding tasker and cell near. I implemented this solution: http://tasker.wikidot.com/yanawa
which minimizes the location checks and so far I think it's faring a lot better. I'm going to play around with your NFC idea though.

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Great battery life!

Info:
Codename droid (latest 2/16/2012 i think)
Matrix kernel 17 (plan to update to 17.5 later) cfs
200min 1200max
default gov and scheduler
default voltages
display was at about 20% (above 50% is just blinding with voodoo)
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Off the changer at about 7am then listen to music for awhile to drown out some boring teachers! then some games at lunch. A few texts here and there and calls for about 10 minutes. Its now 12:27 and I still have 67% battery!
I gotta put it on the charger before I go to bed so I can start fresh tomorrow.
Battery life varies GREATY with usage; a good indicator of usage would be your on-screen time.
What is your on-screen time?
Also we have another similar thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517524
Why did you create a new one ...?
There is another thread like this one with real usage battery life...
That being said, I agree that this combo has awesome battery life. I'm using it myself. I froze a few pre-installed apps, and turned auto sync off, and my phone seriously dropped 1% overnight with wifi on. That's pretty amazing. I don't have deep idol on, stock voltages, and 200/1200 with interactiveX.
rocket999 said:
There is another thread like this one with real usage battery life...
That being said, I agree that this combo has awesome battery life. I'm using it myself. I froze a few pre-installed apps, and turned auto sync off, and my phone seriously dropped 1% overnight with wifi on. That's pretty amazing. I don't have deep idol on, stock voltages, and 200/1200 with interactiveX.
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Could you tell us what apps you froze?
Does it really help saving more power?
Thanks.
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glennkaonang said:
Could you tell us what apps you froze?
Does it really help saving more power?
Thanks.
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I don't have my phone on me right now, so I'll post what I froze in a minute. Freezing apps stops them from using up RAM and CPU time. In turn that saves battery. It doesn't save as much as turning off the auto sync though.
my phone was 1 day and 15 hrs without a charger but this rom have bugs like home buttom not working screen close (need to be like old tv) etc etc....
I turned off auto sync and backup but my battery still drains pretty fast even when on 2G all the time.
I've frozen Maps and Talk but that doesn't seem to help.
I noticed that my phone awake time is high enough when the screen off although it can go to deep sleep normally.
I also noticed that Google Services has high % of battery use.
Any idea of what I'm doing wrong?
I'm sure that I have turned off auto sync.
But this Google Services still drains my battery.
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rocket999 said:
There is another thread like this one with real usage battery life...
That being said, I agree that this combo has awesome battery life. I'm using it myself. I froze a few pre-installed apps, and turned auto sync off, and my phone seriously dropped 1% overnight with wifi on. That's pretty amazing. I don't have deep idol on, stock voltages, and 200/1200 with interactiveX.
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How exactly do you "freeze" an app?
glennkaonang said:
I turned off auto sync and backup but my battery still drains pretty fast even when on 2G all the time.
I've frozen Maps and Talk but that doesn't seem to help.
I noticed that my phone awake time is high enough when the screen off although it can go to deep sleep normally.
I also noticed that Google Services has high % of battery use.
Any idea of what I'm doing wrong?
I'm sure that I have turned off auto sync.
But this Google Services still drains my battery.
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What phone do you have? I have a 4g, so it's on CDMA. I know that the auto sync takes up more power on CDMA networks then it does on GSM. Do you have GPS on? What about your NFC? Those both take up battery.
How exactly do you "freeze" an app?
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There's an app on the market called titanium backup. You can "freeze" apps so they aren't running and don't show up anywhere. It stops them from running in the background.
I have an i9023, the GSM one.
Yes I've turned off almost all that my phone doesn't even deserve a title of smartphone.
Clean install of ROM is done already.
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You have to freeze apps like Google + Google wallet ( stuff you never use) just make sure the system does not need it or you'll run into issues. Also use a task killer but disable auto kill and only kill when u need too.
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Task killers are a waste of space. When will people learn how to exit apps properly and know that the android system handles its memory just fine on its own?
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airkernel battery life!!!
Want to show you the rusults of testing AirKernel 3.2 (very smooth on 200-800 MHz and CFQ+SmartAssV2).
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Want to show you the rusults of testing AirKernel 3.2 (very smooth on 200-800 MHz and CFQ+SmartAssV2).
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Which rom are you doing this with?
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I have an i9023, the GSM one.
Yes I've turned off almost all that my phone doesn't even deserve a title of smartphone.
Clean install of ROM is done already.
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Describe clean install?
Do you did format boot and format system?
If that not help..
Flash stock rom..use it for a few days..
Then flash back custom rom
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[Q] Battery problems

Hi all! I have bought Nexus 7 32g wifi (SN: CAOK) 9 days ago. I noticed an unregular battery usage... I made about 3,5h with display on and I've read on the web that I should do at least 6h with display on. It 'a manufacturing defect?
I attach some screens of battery stats
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look your opinions, thank you!
Looks about right to me. You have to factor in I that you also have about 1 day of standby time and you were playing some games.
Try tinkering with your sync settings and WiFi settings and you may get a little more battery.
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candyeve said:
Looks about right to me. You have to factor in I that you also have about 1 day of standby time and you were playing some games.
Try tinkering with your sync settings and WiFi settings and you may get a little more battery.
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As some people to get 2 days of standby and 6h of display on in same charge? I've seen it on many screens on xda and other forums maybe they are using a custom roms? I actually mount stock 4.2.1.
What do you mean with wi fi settings?
Thanks
I have had awful battery life on 4.2.1. Its meant to give you 6-7 hours of screen time but I've had no more than 2. Really annoying and I'm sure I didn't get this on 4.1.2
So you have this problem too
I think so too It's a 4.2.1 issue, but I wouldn't install any custom room cause if it's an hw problem I can't back N7 with warranty...
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Wi-Fi settings...
Make sure Wi-Fi gets turned off when threes screen is off
My 4.2.1 gets better battery than you but I've also made sure I've read all the " battery" threads and tweaked my tablet the way others have recommended.
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candyeve said:
Wi-Fi settings...
Make sure Wi-Fi gets turned off when threes screen is off
My 4.2.1 gets better battery than you but I've also made sure I've read all the " battery" threads and tweaked my tablet the way others have recommended.
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Ok, but this goes against my need to receive push notifications. So I can say that those who make six hours of screen on is because they has not the wifi always on?
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Ok, but this goes against my need to receive push notifications. So I can say that those who make six hours of screen on is because they has not the wifi always on?
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I get around 10hrs of battery life (total actual usage)... with 2 days on standby
but i usually disable sync, only sync when needed. (make use of those widgets)
Avoid fancy widget, use stock widget if possible.
In battery settings, wifi off when it sleeps.
If you are using google currents, you have to disable auto sync, as it use up battery real fast.
And avoid push notification...
Push is the real killer, it requires wifi to be constantly on.
comscier said:
I get around 10hrs of battery life (total actual usage)... with 2 days on standby
but i usually disable sync, only sync when needed. (make use of those widgets)
Avoid fancy widget, use stock widget if possible.
In battery settings, wifi off when it sleeps.
If you are using google currents, you have to disable auto sync, as it use up battery real fast.
And avoid push notification...
Push is the real killer, it requires wifi to be constantly on.
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Have already turn off all, now last chance I'll disable Facebook notifications... let's see if any changes... Otherwise I will send it for repair
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Have already turn off all, now last chance I'll disable Facebook notifications... let's see if any changes... Otherwise I will send it for repair
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Since I realized that the Facebook app sucked out my battery like a leech, I'm using the mobile site. Helped me a lot.
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Damn I have "auto refresh position" on gmaps enabled, now i disable this feature and I restart looking at battery life!
Another tweaks to improve battery life?
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4h of display on and 23h in total now it's 25% is far from avarage?
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Really bad battery life

My device has been completely stock running ART kitkat.
Battery life has been really bad the last few weeks. (Possibly due to 4.4.4?)
I have switched off location services, Google now, and only sync gmail.
I can only squeeze out around 2 hours and 30 minutes max compared to 4 hours 30 I was able to before. (Same settings, flight mode WiFi only)
Any one have any advice please? How can I monitor and see what's draining? I've tried a a few apps but I can't find anything.
Thank you.
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Get gsam or betterbatterystats to see where the wake locks are. What daily mail? It's eating a lot of your battery
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Thanks!
Its a news app.
I'm not sure how to analyse it?
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Its a news app. View attachment 2845757
I'm not sure how to analyse it?
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No offense but curious. You are a Recognized Contributor and doesn't know that?
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Its a news app. View attachment 2845757
I'm not sure how to analyse it?
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This might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53453745
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No offense but curious. You are a Recognized Contributor and doesn't know that?
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None taken.
I may be a recognised contributor, however in the last 18 months I've lost my interest in mobile technology, and hence I have little knowledge on mobile tech today.
I consider myself a "normal user" now. I just use my phone as it is as a regular user completely stock and I don't know these tech things anymore.
Any help is appreciated, any other info I can give? I'm rather incline not to factory reset my phone.
App sucker screen if this helps?
So daily mail is the cause?
It is the usage that drains your battery life. If fact daily mail online doesnt drain so much. I dont know, how much and how often you use your phone and that is what really matters.
What really drains batterie (and most people dont know this) is waking up your device often. When you wake up your device all cores goes to max frequency before turning down slowly. By 4 cores it drains a lot of energy. The second is the screen brightness. The brighter the screen, the more it drains. An than there are many other factors like signal strength and quality, apps...
So to sum it up, it is your usage behavior that influence your battery life. To compare I am on cm11 with matr1x kernel, do alot of surfing, chatting, listening to music and the average screen on time is 4 hours. You may try it out.
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It is the usage that drains your battery life. If fact daily mail online doesnt drain so much. I dont know, how much and how often you use your phone and that is what really matters.
What really drains batterie (and most people dont know this) is waking up your device often. When you wake up your device all cores goes to max frequency before turning down slowly. By 4 cores it drains a lot of energy. The second is the screen brightness. The brighter the screen, the more it drains. An than there are many other factors like signal strength and quality, apps...
So to sum it up, it is your usage behavior that influence your battery life. To compare I am on cm11 with matr1x kernel, do alot of surfing, chatting, listening to music and the average screen on time is 4 hours. You may try it out.
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Thanks mate, appreciated.
I forgot to post my brightness.
I usually have my phone on flight mode at home and WiFi signal a minimum of 3 bars. (Excuse the screenshot which is an exception)
I suppose with my phone I do always switch it on and off multiple times, however I haven't had this battery drainage problem in the past, it only occurred in the last few weeks and I have the same usage pattern. I suspect it was the 4.4.3/4.4.4 update because prior to that battery was fine.
Thanks for the suggestion of the ROM, however I'm planning to keep my device stock and I still haven't factory reseted it since day 1 (August 2013) and hope I do not need to.
Thanks all the same.
Open to more suggestions many thanks to everyone.
Install Greenify and hibernate Daily Mail Online. It's the one draining your battery I guess.
Greenify works without root, but if I remember correctly you need to hibernate apps manually.

Crazy wakelocks: please help

I'm noticing some incredibly high kernel wakelocks on my Note 4, which aren't present on my Note 2 (which rules out something on my network causing the problem ).
It's anyone having these? Any idea how the heck I'm suppose to get these lower? Wlan_wake in particular is firing off several dozen wakelocks per second.
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get an app called Amplify, aka LiOn Tamer, aka as far as i know dev could be changing the name of the app again as we speak. The regular version is usually good enough, although the donate version takes care of most of the other wakelocks...assuming you are rooted and have xposed installed, if not, good luck.
This app is probably one of the best apps to control wakelocks, the battery life increase is also considerable.
As of now I got 4h34 screen on time in 19h47 of battery life and have 37% left. I'm pretty sure if I wasn't working tomorrow and needed a full charge in the morning I could hit 6.5h of screen on time and an extra 7h battery life before I reach 0%. Stats that are not possible without this app
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get an app called Amplify, aka LiOn Tamer, aka as far as i know dev could be changing the name of the app again as we speak. The regular version is usually good enough, although the donate version takes care of most of the other wakelocks...assuming you are rooted and have xposed installed, if not, good luck.
This app is probably one of the best apps to control wakelocks, the battery life increase is also considerable.
As of now I got 4h34 screen on time in 19h47 of battery life and have 37% left. I'm pretty sure if I wasn't working tomorrow and needed a full charge in the morning I could hit 6.5h of screen on time and an extra 7h battery life before I reach 0%. Stats that are not possible without this app
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I've got Amplify, but it's not showing any wakelocks that would be close to those listed (in # of triggers). I am experimenting with a completely isolated wifi AP - so there's no way that devices on my network are pinging my phone. So far, wlan_wake and KeyEvents are still highish ,but there are some strange ones named "Event"followed by a number DASH number... I have no clue what the hell those are
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I've got Amplify, but it's not showing any wakelocks that would be close to those listed (in # of triggers). I am experimenting with a completely isolated wifi AP - so there's no way that devices on my network are pinging my phone. So far, wlan_wake and KeyEvents are still highish ,but there are some strange ones named "Event"followed by a number DASH number... I have no clue what the hell those are
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did you try greenify?? I'm sure its an app thats doing that, this wakelock was a known issue in 4.3
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did you try greenify?? I'm sure its an app thats doing that, this wakelock was a known issue in 4.3
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I am using Greenify - are you saying I should disable? These particular wakelocks have only come up in the past few days (maybe after the most recent firmware update) and I've been using Greenify since I got the phone, weeks ago.
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I am using Greenify - are you saying I should disable? These particular wakelocks have only come up in the past few days (maybe after the most recent firmware update) and I've been using Greenify since I got the phone, weeks ago.
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dont disable it, just make sure you update the app list on it. I also got a N4 on launch day and the update was there out of the box, i dont have such issues though. I'm pretty sure an app is causing this, just gotta know which one. It could be almost any app, check your per app battery usage and see if an app is draining abnormally your battery.
You haven't mentioned this anywhere, but is this affecting battery life?
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dont disable it, just make sure you update the app list on it. I also got a N4 on launch day and the update was there out of the box, i dont have such issues though. I'm pretty sure an app is causing this, just gotta know which one. It could be almost any app, check your per app battery usage and see if an app is draining abnormally your battery.
You haven't mentioned this anywhere, but is this affecting battery life?
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I've been getting poor screen on time, but these wakeups seen abnormally high (half MILLION triggers in less than 24 hours???).
I'm going to look at packets on my network to see if any are pinging my device for no good reason.

Bad battery life on Nexus 4

Hi!
I recently purchased a used Nexus 4 in very good condition.
However I was having problems with the battery not lasting very long. So I replaced it with one from a reseller that sells original spares (called "lgspares", I can't post links.).
Battery life is still bad. My battery usually lasts about 12-13 hours and is therefore empty in the afternoon or early evening.
This is quite annoying.
I am running cm-13.0-20160429-SNAPSHOT-ZNH0EAO2YJ-mako without Google Apps.
I run the following apps that (possibly) sync in the background:
* DavDroid to sync to a CalDav server, runs every 4 hours.
* K9 Mail to sync to an IMAP server, turned off IMAP push, runs every 30 minutes.
* FOSS Telegram, which does not use GCM. However I turned off "Background Connection" in the settings.
I used to have smaller intervals set for DavDroid and K9 and recently increased them to have a better battery life. However this did not have a big impact.
I ran battery historian for two usual days:
* Day 1:
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*I can see that the battery level decreases quite a lot while the screen is on. Does that simply mean that I have a bad battery?
*Did I miss something in the battery historian graph?
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How many hours of screen on time do you get? The Nexus 4 (or really any before the 6p) didn't have great battery life...
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I see, that's unfortunate.
According to battery historian it was 2h7m for day 1 and 3h15 for day 2.
Is that average (for a N4)?
rwkser said:
Hi!
I recently purchased a used Nexus 4 in very good condition.
However I was having problems with the battery not lasting very long. So I replaced it with one from a reseller that sells original spares (called "lgspares", I can't post links.).
Battery life is still bad.
Thanks for your help!
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My N4 was rooted, and I used a kernel profile to help conserve the battery. I was also not running the screen @ full brightness. I usually managed to get through the day on one charge.
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My N4 was rooted, and I used a kernel profile to help conserve the battery. I was also not running the screen @ full brightness. I usually managed to get through the day on one charge.
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I will look up ways to adapt the "kernel profile"/cpu governor/etc. .
Actually the battery life has gotten better suddenly. I think the only adjustment I did was disabling vibration feedback while typing.
I will watch the behavior during the next days and possibly report back
Thanks for your input so far!
Turn off all sounds in other sounds in settings menu and check out l speed app on goggle play I use a n4 still and check out force doze app also it is on google play and kernel auditor is another good app
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Turn off all sounds in other sounds in settings menu and check out l speed app on goggle play I use a n4 still and check out force doze app also it is on google play and kernel auditor is another good app
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I will check these out!
I have disabled developers options and uninstalled Wakelock Detector.
The phone charged until 9am this morning and just now (10 hours later) it is at 70%.
Could it be that Wakelock Detector itself was draining the battery or that the developer options are to blame?
I am baffled.
You may need to restart the phone to show true battery level if that doesn't work download ampere app from Google play and make sure you are not using a very slow charger Normal charger would be a measuring of 600ma in my experience
also check settings battery see what is consuming most battery life
You likely need a new battery. These phones are 3yrs old. I had to replace mine every 1.5 years.
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