[Q] Will a TPU case affect phone performance due to thermal throttling? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My N4 should be arriving in a few days and I'm thinking about getting a case. I'm leaning toward a TPU case rather than the perpetually OOS official bumper, but I was wondering: would a TPU case slow heat dissipation enough to engage thermal throttling more frequently, thus affecting the phone's performance?

Probably, but I don't think it's something you'd notice under regular use.

I have a tpu case and I think so far it was worth the 9.95. I so not feel the heat from the glass the phone no longer slides on things. I do not think heat is worst with the phone. For 9.95 it is a good choice. There is a few threads on the TPU ones take look at those they have pics.
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Maybe in benchmarks but you won't notice in normal use. People care way too much about benchmarks. If the phone feels buttery smooth then what more do you need?

dcarpenter85 said:
Maybe in benchmarks but you won't notice in normal use. People care way too much about benchmarks. If the phone feels buttery smooth then what more do you need?
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Cool, thanks everyone! I ordered the case and will see how it goes .

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Suspected Overheat with TPU Case

My note has been running perfectly since I got it a month ago. No lag. SPen is accurate. Camera is good. Skype and VOIP are very clear and smooth. Camera videos are excellent.
Then-- a week ago my Nillikin TPU case arrived. It fits well and I used it in place of my very nice PDair Slipcase. I started getting slow response and hangups after an hour or two of continuous screen on. After this happened several times, I took off the TPU case and noticed that the entire phone body was very warm. With the case off, it usually gets just a little above body temperature in the upper part of the body.
I took the case off a couple of days ago and my lags/hangups disappeared. It seems to me that the TPU case is causing the processor to overheat and go into thermal slowdown (is there such a feature in the Note hardware?).
Anyone else with this problem might try using the Note bare and see if it makes a difference. I am back to using my slipcase and carrying it in my shirt pocket or cargo pants pocket. I like the feel of the bare unit better, anyway and am always careful when handling it.
That was a concern I had when I saw the case.
I removed my overclocks, but kept my undervolts intact. Device has been holding up good even when used for 2 to 3 hour HD movie playback over WiFi.
I'll try logging the temperature with the case on and off.
Interesting. I received my Note for Christmas and have not really spend long durations on it due to time off from work and travel but did get a tpu case for it. I will keep an eye on the temperature as I begin using it for longer periods of time starting this week.
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Any update guys???
Any update guys
ive been using mine with a TPU case for over a month now. it gets warm, but no issues at all. normally overheating is a concern for me with my electronics since its summer here in Australia, and we just had a few 40C hot days, but my note is still running fine.
if youre concerned but still want the durability of a TPU case, do what i did. buy the tpu pebble cases on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Galaxy-N...ccessories&hash=item3f121938b4#ht_5452wt_1163
already ordered a black one. tempted to buy the yellow one. it leaves a bit of breathing room for the phone.
May be warmer but would not spoil your phone

Will my Nexus 4 be safe with these?

Like many others, I'm a little paranoid after all the horror stories I've read about our brittle, fragile little phones so I ordered a couple of defence measures, A case (I've actually ordered 2 but the one I have doesn't seem very resilient) and a screen protector, do you think these will offer sufficient protection?
Case : JKase DIABLO Series Tough Rugged Dual Layer Protection Case Cover with Build in Stand
The case I already have is the following : Nillkin Tree-Texture Slim, Snap-on / Flip Case / Cover for Google Nexus 4
Screen Protector : XGear Fantom 4 Tempered Glass Screen Protector For LG Nexus 4
The case I have is sturdy enough but I just don't trust it in case I drop the phone, the Diablo case just looks like it would protect the phone better, I have also seen another case which looks like it would protect the phone even better (will update later as I'm at work at the moment)
Just for info, this is the other case I was looking at, I watched a review on YouTube which stated that it's got really good face protection due to the moulding on the corners being more prominent.
LG NEXUS 4 BALLISTIC SHELL GEL SG SERIES CASE
Anyone tried this case and have anything to report/review?
EDIT: Just found this review on XDA I might look at getting this case depending on how the Diablo one works out
How fragile the phone is entirely depends on what you do day to day and what your friends/family/wife/husband would rate your klutzy-ness level as.
As such I have moshed at music festivals and gigs, have a walking heavy campus environment without incident (nor even a scratch) and only use a rear glass protector as the most likely thing to happen is if I hit the corner of a table or something.
To answer your question though, that case looks like it'd be fairly solid hahah.
Are you trying to make your Nexus 4 as durable as a tank or something ?
I've been using my nexus 4 now with only a Ringke Slim, and its still in mint condition.
For normal use you will never need a case like what you have, only in extreme conditions.
mumaster20 said:
Are you trying to make your Nexus 4 as durable as a tank or something ?
I've been using my nexus 4 now with only a Ringke Slim, and its still in mint condition.
For normal use you will never need a case like what you have, only in extreme conditions.
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A tank would be nice yeah lol, I'm only stressing because I've seen stories of people dropping the phone from less than a foot high and the back shattered so I'd rather be safe than sorry, especially since it's not on a contract so we can't go running to a provider to replace it if it gets damaged.
Haha, yeah ofcourse the glass would break if you dropped it on a hard surface, face first.
You'd just ahve to be careful when you have your phone in your hand.
I personally never, ever, have dropped a smartphone and i dont plan on doing it anytime.
Just a simple bumper, or other case will protect you from fall damage.
Those cases you showed make your phone really bulky and ugly (in my opinion).
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I personally never, ever, have dropped a smartphone and i dont plan on doing it anytime.
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LOL I don't think anyone ever sets out to drop the phone, except for these people doing smash tests on YouTube which I don't understand at all...
"I'm going to throw this phone at a wall to see if it will smash"
*BANG*
*TINKLE*
*CRACK*
"Yup, that's really bad, it smashed when I threw it against a wall"
Well durrrrrr!
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LOL I don't think anyone ever sets out to drop the phone, except for these people doing smash tests on YouTube which I don't understand at all...
"I'm going to throw this phone at a wall to see if it will smash"
*BANG*
*TINKLE*
*CRACK*
"Yup, that's really bad, it smashed when I threw it against a wall"
Well durrrrrr!
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Looked like you were going to do that, when buying such a case lol.
I suggest taking a look at the Acase Super Leggerra Case. I have one, and it's just like the commuter series of otterbox. It offers good protection and looks pretty nice. Although I wouldn't get the white one. I got it, and it got dirty really easy... lol.
I only use that type of case when I'm at the gym. Otherwise, I have a front and rear bestskinever and that's it. Looks perfect except for some scratches on the chrome border.
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I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone shattering their screens or backs using a simple bumper or slim case. Unless you want to be able to physically throw your phone around or treat it roughly, bumpers/slim cases are fine for 95% of use cases for normal people.
But sure, if you want the 100% piece of mind that your phone won't be broken, then by all means, bulk it up and deface the heck out of it.
djsubterrain said:
Like many others, I'm a little paranoid after all the horror stories I've read about our brittle, fragile little phones so I ordered a couple of defence measures, A case (I've actually ordered 2 but the one I have doesn't seem very resilient) and a screen protector, do you think these will offer sufficient protection?
Case : JKase DIABLO Series Tough Rugged Dual Layer Protection Case Cover with Build in Stand
The case I already have is the following : Nillkin Tree-Texture Slim, Snap-on / Flip Case / Cover for Google Nexus 4
Screen Protector : XGear Fantom 4 Tempered Glass Screen Protector For LG Nexus 4
The case I have is sturdy enough but I just don't trust it in case I drop the phone, the Diablo case just looks like it would protect the phone better, I have also seen another case which looks like it would protect the phone even better (will update later as I'm at work at the moment)
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For traveling, I may put on my Ringke Fusion case, but for the most part, I have my OEM Bumper on. If I had a Seidio Active case ordered up, I may pop that on when I go on vacation like Disneyworld.
But given your options you posted, I have seen cases like the Diablo for the GNex and they are indeedy very protective. Not too bad for the price either.
I have the case that OP is looking at...awesome case, I use it while mowing lawns and taking down trees. Not expensive either...
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recommend a case that does not compromise N4's good looks

Just bought a nexus 4 after google's price cut, can someone recommend me a case that offer a good protection without compromising the N4's looks?
Currently I am considering the ringke fusion.
Any other recommendations?
FinancialWar said:
Just bought a nexus 4 after google's price cut, can someone recommend me a case that offer a good protection without compromising the N4's looks?
Currently I am considering the ringke fusion.
Any other recommendations?
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I got the case you are considering but it has yet to arrive in the post which is annoying as i won't take my N4 outside without some sort of case.
Will let you know once i get it which should hopefully be later today or tomorrow.
There is no case that won't compromise its looks, simple as that. Even with the Ringke Fusion.. sure, you can see the back, but through plastic. And the rest is still TPU.. and in reality it doesn't look as flawless and nice as in the renders. There's always a compromise.
You could go for more minimalistic cases such as the quicksand ones. I'm currently using one of them and I really like its look and feel because it doesn't change it as much (I also have a diztronic tpu case which I'll only be using for when I expect rougher conditions, e.g. travel, hiking or whatever). But it comes at the cost of less protection for the device.
It's a matter of what you prioritize and what risks you're willing to take for better look and feel.
jpde said:
There is no case that won't compromise its looks, simple as that. Even with the Ringke Fusion.. sure, you can see the back, but through plastic. And the rest is still TPU.. and in reality it doesn't look as flawless and nice as in the renders. There's always a compromise.
You could go for more minimalistic cases such as the quicksand ones. I'm currently using one of them and I really like its look and feel because it doesn't change it as much (I also have a diztronic tpu case which I'll only be using for when I expect rougher conditions, e.g. travel, hiking or whatever). But it comes at the cost of less protection for the device.
It's a matter of what you prioritize and what risks you're willing to take for better look and feel.
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Could you post a link to the one you are using?
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http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001933/1138601-protective-pc-matte-case-for-lg-nexus-4
If you're concerned about shipping time, there should be lots of other places to buy them. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030443 this is another thread on that kind of case.. I'd expect them all to be pretty much if not exactly the same
jpde said:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001933/1138601-protective-pc-matte-case-for-lg-nexus-4
If you're concerned about shipping time, there should be lots of other places to buy them. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030443 this is another thread on that kind of case.. I'd expect them all to be pretty much if not exactly the same
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that is one ugly cheap case...
It's certainly cheap, but I much prefer it to my diztronic tpu case (http://tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_76&products_id=303). The material feels very nice and not plastic-y (a bit like jeans, I'd say) and it hardly adds any bulk, which tpu cases do. I also really dislike the shiny border around the edge most tpu cases have, cause that does look pretty cheap.
I personally ordered it cause I was looking for a different case and this one seemed like a very low-risk option, and I ended up liking it a lot. Your mileage may vary, obviously.
FinancialWar said:
that is one ugly cheap case...
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I had a similar type case on my nexus for a few months and it was great. Had a really great feel to it and it actually looks pretty darn sharp when it's on the phone. Doesn't look cheap at all. :good:
thanks, but I think I'll stick with the Ringke Fusion case. I like the clear back.
U can't go wrong with the oem bumper. It offers protection on all edges and prevents both front and back from laying directly on surfaces. I've had it on my white N4 since purchase and i don't have a scratch. Not to mention I am constantly subject to compliments and questions peeked by its sexy appearance.
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I am always partial to the Ringke slim cases. I've had them on my last few phones
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FinancialWar said:
thanks, but I think I'll stick with the Ringke Fusion case. I like the clear back.
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I personally would go with bumper case and maybe add a screen protector on both sides (something like Ghost Armor or Zagg or dBrand skin if you want to go a bit more expensive, OR just get something like XtremeGuard for the back for a cheap alternative - XtremeGuard costs me about $2 for front and back :laugh: )
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For me and is what I use.
I reallu glad with bumper case from poetic.
Your phone keep with the original look protected, if you want a litle more prtection 2 skins one on the back and other on the front.
Box Wave Bamboo case! Only case I have kept on a phone longer than a week! Now going for two months.
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Ringke Slim or Poetic Pallete case.
Hands down two best slim cases. (My opinion lol)
mynigman said:
U can't go wrong with the oem bumper. It offers protection on all edges and prevents both front and back from laying directly on surfaces. I've had it on my white N4 since purchase and i don't have a scratch. Not to mention I am constantly subject to compliments and questions peeked by its sexy appearance.
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Ditto. Unless you're extraordinarily clumsy, the OEM bumper should provide plenty of protection. I've had my Nexus 4 with bumper since December of last year and it has survived many drops. It's even survived a drop onto concrete, complete with a few bounces, with no scratch. The crack that my Nexus 4 has came from when I took the case off momentarily and then it dropped about a foot and a half onto the soft part of an open binder. >_<
OEM bumper + front and back clear skins. Everything else is hideous.
Currently using the Incipio Feather, but I have to admit that the N4 pretty much only looks good caseless.
Tried the official bumper, but it just didn't stick either.
phon00b said:
OEM bumper + front and back clear skins. Everything else is hideous.
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Exactly. Coming from a person who has never liked or had cases on their devices - I just got the OEM bumper in the mail yesterday, and I'm stunned at how good it looks. It actually makes the phone look nicer with the aluminium accents, and protects it rather well.
What do you suggest?
Alright so I'm a little late to the Nexus 4 party, but after much delay, I finally decided to upgrade from my archaic Vibrant and order a shiny new N4. Although it hasn't come in just yet, I was interested to know what cases you guys might suggest. You see here's my dilemma... I know for a fact that the Ringke Slim and other like cases are a major no-no for me. They offer too little protection and from what I've heard, leave the very top and bottom of the device exposed. I would get the OEM bumper as it's very attractive, but I've read many, many, many reviews that note its fragility--specifically around the USB port, which apparently is prone to cracking. I'm also considering the Ringke Fusion as it seems to be a popular choice, or the possibility of going with a wallet style case, as I won't need a screen protector then.
However I'm very torn, as there are so many options and so many drawbacks...
What do you guys think? Is the OEM bumper really all that fragile? Does it break as a result of removing the phone from it or does it crack completely on its own? Should I not even consider the OEM bumper case and go with something much more durable (i.e. the Ringke Fusion, wallet case)? Should I just go naked!?!? (referring to the phone of course )
Thanks in advance! Looking forward to hearing some feedback!

Easy Fix for Throttling

Edit: This is just a fun project. Every octa core phone throttles. That includes my S6. Its AnTuTu score from 5 back to back runs with similar 32C start ranges from 65K to 52K. That means a similar drop in performance. Also overheating & throttling are two very different things. Z3+ & S6 both throttle so that they don't get too hot (or 'overheat'). Glass backs on both don't help either, but I like them anyway. I was just trying to speed up the cooling process- not to cool down anything as the phone doesn't 'overheat' in the first place. You won't notice this throttling with regular usage & all these temperature numbers are for internal temp, not surface temp. I hope this clears up my intent. *End of Edit* 07/21/2015
This is probably the easiest way to decrease throttling during heavy CPU workload. All I had to do is insert few foil layers between the phone & TPU case. Attached picture shows plots from three scenarios - no case, just case, foil & case respectively. Oh, NFC will get blocked out by the foil. But I don't use it much anyway. Cheers.
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Very interesting thread, mate! It made my lazy as* to sign up just to post my results. Oh, I used this copper foil with a case. You won't need that much, btw lol
amazon dot com/Louis-Crafts-Copper-Foil-Inches/dp/B0042SWM98
My scores (normalized like yours) from 5 consecutive AnTuTu runs (& my initial temp was also a bit higher than yours)
Initial Temp (C) Score
0 34 100%
1 48.1 91.10%
2 49.1 86.86%
3 49.8 84.80%
4 50.1 83.00%
4K Test:
Outdoor-> 4 minutes in 96F / 35.5 degree Celsius weather (starting CPU temp was 37C as I was using few apps before the recording started )
Walked back home two minutes later and then
Indoor -> 9.5 minutes (CPU was still warm at 41C)
It really is the easiest fix ever for extreme users who use case anyway. Thanks!
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Oh, I used this copper foil with a case. You won't need that much, btw lol
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That's freakin' awesome, dude :good: I never knew copper foil existed. Since I can't afford diamond foil, I'll go with copper I'll take the whole roll though as people are (primarily) using it for shielding their guitar pickups. Thanks a lot for your tip.
Have you guys considered the fact that the phone might, and let me say it again, MIGHT get hotter because we're in summer and it's seriously hot outside? I just checked the forecast for Austin TX, OP's town according to his info, and he has 37C over there. I think that MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT have something to do with the phone getting hotter than usual.
Just saying.
schecter7 said:
This is probably the easiest way to decrease throttling during heavy CPU workload. All I had to do is insert few foil layers between the phone & TPU case. Attached picture shows plots from three scenarios - no case, just case, foil & case respectively. Oh, NFC will get blocked out by the foil. But I don't use it much anyway. Cheers.
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What do you think about putting foil around the actual battery? Some people have suggested putting paper around it. Does anyone think either of those things are safe?
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Have you guys considered the fact that the phone might, and let me say it again, MIGHT get hotter because we're in summer and it's seriously hot outside? I just checked the forecast for Austin TX, OP's town according to his info, and he has 37C over there. I think that MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT have something to do with the phone getting hotter than usual.
Just saying.
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Yes, it's quite hot over here in ATX. I added an extra comment to my first post. I hope that makes things clear now.
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What do you think about putting foil around the actual battery? Some people have suggested putting paper around it. Does anyone think either of those things are safe?
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The foil will short out the internal components and your phone may get toasted . Please DO NOT try it. But I really wanted to open the back and put some thermal compound like this one. I'll try it some day!
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Yes, it's quite hot over here in ATX. I added an extra comment to my first post. I hope that makes things clear now.
The foil will short out the internal components and your phone may get toasted . Please DO NOT try it. But I really wanted to open the back and put some thermal compound like. I'll try it some day!
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Thanks I was very close to trying it out. Funny you should mention the thermal compound...there's a guy on YouTube who opened up the nexus 5 and put some on the CPU and a little piece of metal
heat sink. I have the thermal compound but I don't have the piece of heatsink to test it out so I haven't tried it. One day I'm going to try it though as I have a nexus 5.
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Thanks I was very close to trying it out. Funny you should mention the thermal compound...there's a guy on YouTube who opened up the nexus 5 and put some on the CPU and a little piece of metal
heat sink. I have the thermal compound but I don't have the piece of heatsink to test it out so I haven't tried it. One day I'm going to try it though as I have a nexus 5.
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That's great! You'll have better luck with the compound on the N5 as it has plastic back - I guess? On Z3+, I'll probably get bottle-necked by the glass back regardless of the internal enhancement. I could be wrong though if the heat sink goes all the way to metal side frame. It's certainly worth a shot.
As battery wrap, you'd probably want something that's thermally conductive AND electrically non-conductive.
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That's great! You'll have better luck with the compound on the N5 as it has plastic back - I guess? On Z3+, I'll probably get bottle-necked by the glass back regardless of the internal enhancement. I could be wrong though if the heat sink goes all the way to metal side frame. It's certainly worth a shot.
As battery wrap, you'd probably want something that's thermally conductive AND electrically non-conductive.
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Yea, there's got to be something you can wrap around a smartphone battery that could shield in the heat. I just bought an oppo find 7a and it has a removable back. Maybe some sort of insulation can be put on the inside back cover so your hands don't feel the heat when the phone heats up. Any ideas for either the battery and/or back cover? What's thermally conductive, but not electrically conductive?
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Yea, there's got to be something you can wrap around a smartphone battery that could shield in the heat. I just bought an oppo find 7a and it has a removable back. Maybe some sort of insulation can be put on the inside back cover so your hands don't feel the heat when the phone heats up. Any ideas for either the battery and/or back cover? What's thermally conductive, but not electrically conductive?
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I can't post links yet, but what about putting some cotton insulation inside the back case? I would think that might shield us from holding a hot phone. Also, what about reflective insulation tape? I think that might actually work. Thoughts?
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Yea, there's got to be something you can wrap around a smartphone battery that could shield in the heat. I just bought an oppo find 7a and it has a removable back. Maybe some sort of insulation can be put on the inside back cover so your hands don't feel the heat when the phone heats up. Any ideas for either the battery and/or back cover? What's thermally conductive, but not electrically conductive?
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I can't post links yet, but what about putting some cotton insulation inside the back case? I would think that might shield us from holding a hot phone. Also, what about reflective insulation tape? I think that might actually work. Thoughts?
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Wait, we're not on the same page. I was trying to avoid throttling (not shielding the heat). Z3+ back side heats up where the CPU seats (very small spot somewhere underneath the top row of icons). The idea was to take that heat and spread it laterally over a bigger surface area to speed up the cooling process. Without the foil, I still don't feel the heat as my fingers don't touch that hot spot. The foil also indirectly reduces the hot feel from that tiny spot as the heat gets spread more uniformly.
But your case sounds different. You want to avoid the heat from the battery (or the CPU) ? Battery already has a pretty big surface area. And you probably don't want to keep the heat inside by using thermal insulators as that can be very harmful for the battery. You probably want to establish an even faster heat transfer to the environment so that equilibrium point can be maintained at a lower surface temperature. Is that right? A metal back cover can help in that case.
Also here are some electrical insulators that are thermally conductive - but I'm not quite sure about the availability of those
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ductive-thermally-conductive-material.125368/
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Wait, we're not on the same page. I was trying to avoid throttling (not shielding the heat). Z3+ back side heats up where the CPU seats (very small spot somewhere underneath the top row of icons). The idea was to take that heat and spread it laterally over a bigger surface area to speed up the cooling process. Without the foil, I still don't feel the heat as my fingers don't touch that hot spot. The foil also indirectly reduces the hot feel from that tiny spot as the heat gets spread more uniformly.
But your case sounds different. You want to avoid the heat from the battery (or the CPU) ? Battery already has a pretty big surface area. And you probably don't want to keep the heat inside by using thermal insulators as that can be very harmful for the battery. You probably want to establish an even faster heat transfer to the environment so that equilibrium point can be maintained at a lower surface temperature. Is that right? A metal back cover can help in that case.
Also here are some electrical insulators that are thermally conductive - but I'm not quite sure about the availability of those :confused
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I've tried TPU cases, but I still feel the heat. Maybe a metal case would be better. These look interesting.
amazon(dot)com/gp/aw/d/B00HNKD6A6/ref=pd_aw_sbs_107_1?refRID=1VRK3Q399HJZXA2GHWCJ
amazon(dot)com/gp/aw/d/B00L71LNS4/ref=pd_aw_sbs_107_1?refRID=1BQ362P6XMYRJET82TFG
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I've tried TPU cases, but I still feel the heat. Maybe a metal case would be better. These look interesting.
amazon(dot)com/gp/aw/d/B00HNKD6A6/ref=pd_aw_sbs_107_1?refRID=1VRK3Q399HJZXA2GHWCJ
amazon(dot)com/gp/aw/d/B00L71LNS4/ref=pd_aw_sbs_107_1?refRID=1BQ362P6XMYRJET82TFG
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Interesting! So why does your battery heat up in the first place? Did you try to compare your battery temp (using CPU Z, etc) to others'? I thought battery only heats up during charging.
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Edit: This is just a fun project. Every octa core phone throttles.
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That was genius--thank you.
I've attached a heatsink with thermal paste (cheap one) to my nexus 4 once it didn't make a difference
too bad i sold it i can't try it with my Peltier (TEC)
and my note 4 here is cooler without my tough armor (ofc it is, that case is a monster) i think i bent my phone while taking it out will try it with foil as soon as i get one, hope it doesn't damage it :S
a copper plate would be better! or simply a thin heatsink
I tried this maybe a year ago, phone was a lot cooler but I lost my reception. I noticed this after few days, everyone thought something had happend because they couldn't reach me. I was busy gaming ?
Because the phone is opened from the back (http://www.witrigs.com/blog/sony-xperia-z4-teardown/) we should crowdfund a metal replacement made of aluminium but in the same glossy style and color the frame is and with a copper base which directly connects to the thermonuclear fusion core (aka Qualcomm) so that the heat is as best as possible transported from these to the whole backplate. The only difficulty will be the holes for the camera and LED light to be waterproof. And while we are at it, we could make the backplate a little bit ticker than the glass currently is so that the tiny height difference between the glass and the frame is gone too.
Ok, we can argue about the color and thickness but you get the idea. Should we do that? Once we got them funded we can sell them and get rich
an3k said:
Because the phone is opened from the back (http://www.witrigs.com/blog/sony-xperia-z4-teardown/) we should crowdfund a metal replacement made of aluminium but in the same glossy style and color the frame is and with a copper base which directly connects to the thermonuclear fusion core (aka Qualcomm) so that the heat is as best as possible transported from these to the whole backplate. The only difficulty will be the holes for the camera and LED light to be waterproof. And while we are at it, we could make the backplate a little bit ticker than the glass currently is so that the tiny height difference between the glass and the frame is gone too.
Ok, we can argue about the color and thickness but you get the idea. Should we do that? Once we got them funded we can sell them and get rich
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That'd be excellent & throttling would probably be gone forever. I'm in But some dudes might mix up fast heat dissipation with 'overheating & throttling & battery drain' - all in one sentence The rear area that gets warm on Z3+ is actually very narrow & my fingers don't touch that part at all. But we've already seen a ridiculous amount of whining over that. Can you imagine the whining as we try to expand that dissipation area to get rid of throttling?
I think the thickness would be debatable as some may want to keep the slightly raised lips on the back to keep their phones from sliding around.
fredrik8 said:
I tried this maybe a year ago, phone was a lot cooler but I lost my reception. I noticed this after few days, everyone thought something had happend because they couldn't reach me. I was busy gaming
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lol - good point. It depends on the antenna placement - I think. I didn't experience any difference in reception. I usually get 0-1 bar at home. So I really didn't have anything to lose in the first place lol
If you do this and have the phone on max brightness, does it auto-dim when loading xda's website?
Due to all the ads and issues with the website it always causes the screens brightness to throttle when loading, and then go back to full brightness afterwards.
(Try loading a couple of different topics when doing this)

Is my case sealing in heat?

So I've noticed my phone tends to get hot (not nearly as bad as some users described) but noticeably warm. I don't game much but I will watch high def videos. Tonight I noticed it was very cool after a day of typical use. I checked my CPU temp and it was running 10 to 12 degrees cooler than usual at between 41o 46 Celsius.
Only thing I did different was last night before going to bed I removed the case and left it off. There's a link to my case below. If you're using this case or a similar one I'd just like to hear your experience.
http://www.supcase.com/nexus-6p-unicorn-beetle-slim-clear-bumper
I like the case and don't think the higher temps are cause for alarm. But if Id be open to trying a different one if it provides good protection and keeps it a little cooler. Thanks.
Edit--sorry that link doesn't seem to direct you the right way. Its the Unicorn Beetle Case.
Well any plastic case is going to have a detrimental effect on how your phone deals with heat. If you use your phone bare, as in no skin or case, it has the entire metal body to transfer heat to and dissipate from. Plastic, or leather, or anything but metal, doesn't have that kind of heat conductivity and will act like a layer of insulation that prevents your phone from dissipating the heat outside.
tl;dr: yes cases will make your phone heat up more
ttminh1997 said:
Well any plastic case is going to have a detrimental effect on how your phone deals with heat. If you use your phone bare, as in no skin or case, it has the entire metal body to transfer heat to and dissipate from. Plastic, or leather, or anything but metal, doesn't have that kind of heat conductivity and will act like a layer of insulation that prevents your phone from dissipating the heat outside.
tl;dr: yes cases will make your phone heat up more
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But it's safe to use, let's say, a Spigen Thin Fit right? I mean it'll hold a little more heat, but not that bad, as this 810 v2.1 should throttle itself long before the danger threshold right?
About to get mine in today..
prodygee said:
But it's safe to use, let's say, a Spigen Thin Fit right? I mean it'll hold a little more heat, but not that bad, as this 810 v2.1 should throttle itself long before the danger threshold right?
About to get mine in today..
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There are number of things that will protect your phone if it reaches dangerous heat. The CPU and GPU will throttle, the phone will shut itself off in order to not generate more heat if necessary etc.
I use a Spigen Rugged Armor and I also have a Spigen Thin Fit. Both of them will make the CPU and GPU throttle more but it's barely noticeable with or without the cases.
No need to worry about the hardware, the battery might not be great in 2-3 years but you can replace them if you're a little bit handy.
prodygee said:
But it's safe to use, let's say, a Spigen Thin Fit right? I mean it'll hold a little more heat, but not that bad, as this 810 v2.1 should throttle itself long before the danger threshold right?
About to get mine in today..
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It won't overheat. The 6P does throttle aggressively though and you can see it in the performance.
Thanks guys. I noticed the phone getting a little warm, but nothing too major. Take my thanks!

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