[Q] Rooted LG Nexus 4.2.1 OTA Update stays ROOTED!? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?

hey there is an app called OTA root keeper, you can install it and your phone will be able to keep the root.
Btw you are getting the ota update even though you are rooted so its time for me to rooted my device as well. what tool kit you used to root the device and could you give me some info.
thanks

cesar521 said:
I unlocked the bootloader and rooted my 4.2 version nexus 4 with ToolKit, then got the 4.2.1 OTA update, and updated it thinking my root would be gone but I realized my phone updated smoothly and stayed rooted? Any ideas why? Just curious? Will my phone stay rooted every time? Or am I such a noob that I'm really not even rooted anymore? I mean I still have SuperSU and the tweaks I made while I was running 4.2 rooted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.

Lost Root
heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't install cwm, I stayed with stock recovery, I now realized I did loose my root but I still have the superSU app installed? what are some ways of deleting the app? Would I have to root the phone again then delete it that way? or other ways?

heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, that was a pleasant surprise.

lost root too
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?

Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

hankdu said:
Same happened to me but i rooted using a different methods. I was advised to re root my n4 using the original method (just the rooting part, no need to unlocked as it's already locked) , it worked and I didn't end up with two super su or busy box.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what toolkit did you use

stephan moisan said:
what toolkit did you use
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I followed the guide here for rooting my phone
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=224861
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you reroot just delete the extra apps..
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

stephan moisan said:
got my nexus 4... 2 days ago, first day I left it stock, second day I decided to route it using the took kit, third day is today and I got the OTA from Google and decided to apply it..rebooted and lost root. I still have busy box installed and super SU...now what? Should i use the tool kit again?
Can anyone help please? Am I going to have 2 super SU apps and 2 busybox apps?
What should I do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just reroot with the toolkit, you'll be fine. And you don't have to delete the super su app. You will only have one su app after you reroot .
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Found another toolkit http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/

this is cool. just rooted yesterday and receive system update notification today. thanks for info
heat361 said:
If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Related

Updating a Nexus 7 Once Rooted

Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
Extratex said:
Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
hic9582 said:
After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i can confirm this works.
i tested out a few different scenarios last night.
booted up device, ran update, unlocked bootloader, put bad boot.img on
restored to factory, rooted, booted, used OTA Keeper, ran update, rebooted and root was gone. ran OTA Keeper to restore and BAM! root was back
hic9582 said:
After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just looked up that app, it seems it's already integrated into SuperSu (that's the one I'm planning on getting). I just want to know if it's easy or not to upgrade the device once it's rooted.
OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
armyboy11b said:
OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"The application doesn't support original Superuser and not SuperSU for a very simple reason. The same feature OTA protection feature is already present in SuperSU."
That's what it said on the app overview section.
SuperSU Premium has it and it worked for me on my T-Mobile G2x when I updated to new OTA. Don't know if free version has it
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
I'm a noob to this type of stuff so if free SuperSU DOES have the OTA rootkeeper, does that mean I can update my device without any trouble?
If it doesn't, what methods can I take to update it without causing any damage?
Pretty sure its only in the paid version its called survival mode
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
OP: You should calm down. I mean that in the nicest way possible. This is a Nexus device. You can unlock your device anytime you want. You can simple re-root if you happen to lose root, there well always be a method. If you like to be on stock, you can just flash the updated stock firmware. Chances are someone will pack a nice stock rooted firmware within a couple hours of it being released, possibly before you even get a notification that there is a new update.
Sorry if I came out as panicky, it's just that I never did this before so I don't know what's right from wrong. Well I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, thanks for the help.

Accept ota 4.2 on rooted Nexus 7

My 7 is asking if I want to update to 4.2. Of course I do since I am running 4.1.2 but I don't want to lose root. Will I be able to reroot with WugFresh? I had real problems rerooting after I installed 4.1.2.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
rsipson said:
My 7 is asking if I want to update to 4.2. Of course I do since I am running 4.1.2 but I don't want to lose root. Will I be able to reroot with WugFresh? I had real problems rerooting after I installed 4.1.2.
grab ota root keeper from play store. used it for the first time today. flawless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OTA Rootkeeper worked for me too.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
I wish my 7 would ask me to update :-\
Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
I have a ustom recovery so it's failing for me... whee is the file on the system so I can just flash in twrp?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
rsipson said:
Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently stick mount is not working with 4.2.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Root lost (allthough super user and stick mount still there)
kilometers4 said:
Apparently stick mount is not working with 4.2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess would be that parent lost root.
I was rooted myself, accepted the OTA (the one before today did NOT break root), and lost root.
First time I saw this? Luks manager, which I use to mount an encrypted filesystem complained not having root.
As I am rooted using Wugfresh' toolkit, I will wait until he has updated his toolkit and/or stated it will work with the new build (JOP40C).
Kind regards,
Roel
I'll post this here to save making a new topic. I updated to 4.2 ota and lost root. I'm still unlocked but don't have root access. Since I'm post update I can't install any root keepers. How to I get root again? And will I lose all my data and apps? Will I have to do a system reset? Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
just lou said:
OTA Rootkeeper worked for me too.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you happen to have supersu installed and did you temp unroot the device in the root keeper app prior to upgrade?
Thanks....
deanflood said:
I'll post this here to save making a new topic. I updated to 4.2 ota and lost root. I'm still unlocked but don't have root access. Since I'm post update I can't install any root keepers. How to I get root again? And will I lose all my data and apps? Will I have to do a system reset? Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
Hi, I'm facing the same issue .... have you found any solution? I also checked the latest version of StickMount ...1.5.
R.
rsipson said:
Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
---------- Post added at 06:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------
Just found on Google Play:
Automatically mount and dismount USB sticks on various devices like the Galaxy Nexus.
!!! CURRENTLY NOT WORKING ON ANDROID 4.2 !!!
1-starring the app because of that will certainly not help make it compatible. This is a complicated issue which requires some ugly hacks to fix - I'm trying to find the least ugly and most reliable way to work around the new security measures in 4.2 that ended up breaking StickMount. It will take some time (and updating my paid apps to 4.2 has priority, sorry)
radimj said:
Hi, I'm facing the same issue .... have you found any solution? I also checked the latest version of StickMount ...1.5.
R.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dont want to open up a new thread so I'm gonna throw my question here
I've rooted and unlocked my N7 and I messed the crap out of it using custom roms/kernels/menus etc and I want to reset it and revert back to completely stock 4.2. Now of course, I will download the factory image of 4.2 and re-flash it via adb and all but my question is this:
1. Atm I have 4.2 installed but im on the stock vanilla boot loader (the one that came with 4.1) I havent updated it neither to the bootloader of 4.1.2 nor the 4.2 one. When I reflash my Nexi with the factory 4.2 image, it will flash the new bootloader naturaly but will I be able to unlock it and install a custom recovery without issues?
2. Is the factory 4.2 rootable?
Thanks in advance fellow forumites
Chocoburger said:
On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You must unlock the bootloader before rooting.
Chocoburger said:
On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thx for the info. No more worry abt data loss.

Losing root after OTA.

Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
jcnbama said:
Hello,
Being new to the Nexus series I am curious to know how things work with OTA. I never got those one that SGSII. So I've looked through a few threads and I do not see a clear answer to the question of "do you lose root after OTA update? Assuming your stock rooted nothing else changed. No custom recovery. If you do lose root. How do you get it back? Can you just use one of the toolkits to fix it? Do you have to wait until the devs figure out HOW to root this particular version again? Again someone without a custom recovery just a stock rooted phone. Thanks for your help. I'm just debating in staying stock without a recovery. I tried several roms and now I'm back to stock and I kinda like it....
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have stock and a custom recovery then your custom recovery might be able to keep root for you. Alternatively you could try OTA rootkeeper but that is not guaranteed to work. I was rooted stock with a custom recovery when I received the 4.2.2 update and it installed fine through my recovery but after that I lost root and my custom recovery.
You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
sent from my N7 :smokin:
Gigabitex2 said:
You can use voodo root keeper from play store, it saves root and can be restored after update. It has worked every time I have used it :thumbup:
sent from my N7 :smokin:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great! That seems easy lol. I guess that works across multiple Android versions?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
It has worked on my nexus7 from version 4.1 to 4.2.2 and on my n4 I've used it for 4.2, 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Just remember to save root/ unroot before update and restore after you receive ota. Hopefully it will work for keylime but only time will tell.
sent from my N7 :smokin:

Note 5110 USA Software Update today

Just for your info. When I woke up today I found that my Note N5110 has downloaded a new firmware update ans is asking for install. The firmware is 164.63 Mb. Of course I didn't installed because my tablet is rooted with civato custom kernel. Just be careful!
Mine is not rooted and still running original ROM. update was already downlaoded and just needed reboot and 5 minutes later back up !
Only info was that it had better stability..
Mine is rooted with custom recovery twrp installed, exposed framework, tweakbox, app options, and a few apps set up at 160dpi. When checking for an update the device tells me that my device has been modified and updates are not available. So I guess I have nothing to worry about
The pronlem is that when I try to check for software updates the device do not find anything but after a while in the notification bar appears even though I restart the tablet. My fear is to loose root after install the update.
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
which cipthun
rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sorry dude but thanks you for your response. That was the reason I open this threat, to avoid people loosing root in their Notes 8.0 after this update.
rfreeman said:
Be carefull you will lost root, I did, and now I cant root!!! framaroot is not working any more!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
ExploreMN said:
I used Voodoo Root Keeper and restored root and it works fine. My unit was stock though.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.
mingkee said:
Yes, mine works fine too, but you should reboot after root restoration.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just pulled this update now. Assuming its not 4.2.2? I saw 164MB and thought . . . maybe.
Shouldn't be too long though, didn't they claim 4.2.2 for a few other devices in June-July? :fingers-crossed:
Used voodoo ota root keper and went ahead and downloaded! Worked like a charm! Thanks guys!
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
Definitely not 4.2.2. Don't see what's different.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using xda app-developers app
Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root
tonyz3 said:
Has anyone been able to use frama root to unroot and re root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unrooting the old version works perfectly. But you will not be able to root with Framaroot after you did the update...
p107r0 said:
did you try CF-Root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Confirmed CF-Auto-Root worked...THANKS!
FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.
I can confirm that CF-Root works with the new firmware. Just to play I downloaded the new firmware (MF1) and installed via Kies then applied CF-Root with Odin and my Note 8.0 is now rooted with the last software update version.
for us non-rooted folks, does anyone know what the update does. All it said was "stability improvements"
tke743 said:
FYI it may refuse to update because "device is modified" when it is unmodified. Fix is simple... Shutdown, remove sdcard, boot up and update. Replace sdcard later and all is good.
This is for those that are being mistakenly notified that their system is modified. I hope this saves someone some time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
ExploreMN said:
This didn't help on a friend's. His was rooted the exact same as mine. We tried unrooting, voodoo, factory reset, with and without sd... nothing works. Keeps saying it can't update because the device is modified. Anyone have any ideas? It was rooted with framaroot... no idea what else to do.
Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use KIES on PC. Connect the tablet and see if the update is available, if so update it with KIES.

Verizon pushing update? Should I accept?

Hi guys, my gf has a new Verizon LG G2 which keeps trying to install some update... I haven't rooted it or anything (yet!) and I was wondering if I should not accept the update in fear of not being able to go back and root. Trouble is it pops up every day and forces you to pick a time to install it!
Currently running 4.2.2 baseband vs98010b, build jdq39b, software vs98010b
thanks for the help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47812158&postcount=6
Auronis1 said:
Hi guys, my gf has a new Verizon LG G2 which keeps trying to install some update... I haven't rooted it or anything (yet!) and I was wondering if I should not accept the update in fear of not being able to go back and root. Trouble is it pops up every day and forces you to pick a time to install it!
Currently running 4.2.2 baseband vs98010b, build jdq39b, software vs98010b
thanks for the help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Accept the update. Root still works. Is this the only ota you have received. If you root first it goes into recovery bootloop if you do it when rooted.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
jmileti said:
Accept the update. Root still works. Is this the only ota you have received. If you root first it goes into recovery bootloop if you do it when rooted.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought it went into bootloop if you OTA 1st then root
I literally just went back to stock --> root --> Twrp 2.6.3.2 --> flashed DigitalDream ROM but you might be right, let me search
I thought it went into bootloop if you OTA 1st then root 
I literally just went back to stock --> root --> Twrp 2.6.3.2 --> flashed DigitalDream ROM but you might be right, let me search
I found out hard way. I accepted ota by accident after rooting. Scared me real bad. Research if you want. But if your stock not rooted you are good unless it is some new ota. Which I doubt.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
jmileti said:
I thought it went into bootloop if you OTA 1st then root 
I literally just went back to stock --> root --> Twrp 2.6.3.2 --> flashed DigitalDream ROM but you might be right, let me search
I found out hard way. I accepted ota by accident after rooting. Scared me real bad. Research if you want. But if your stock not rooted you are good unless it is some new ota. Which I doubt.
Sent from my LG-VS980 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like you were right although they might have released new version of TWRP so it doesn't bootloop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45995794&postcount=208
Yea OP, install OTA 1st then root
IamPro said:
Looks like you were right although they might have released new version of TWRP so it doesn't bootloop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45995794&postcount=208
Yea OP, install OTA 1st then root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is what I did. Update, then root.
crashN2u said:
This is what I did. Update, then root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the quick answers! and yes this is the first OTA update it has tried to install the phone is barely 2 weeks old still all stock

Categories

Resources