Best Nexus 4 carrier (US) - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, while being mindful of Nexus 4's LTE status, I would like to debate on what carrier is the best for general/specific purposes.
For data heavy but light on talk, it's renown that the T-Mobile $30 unlimited data/text plan with 100 minutes is the best value in that regards.
However, for someone like me who has two people on the line (my mom only uses talk, where I am more text/data heavy but still use some talk) I am curious about Straight Talk and Walmart's Family Mobile (both offered via Walmart)
My current plan is Walmart's Family Mobile at $45 / mo. + $35 line (ex. tax) which provides unlimited talk, text and 250 MB of data with options of $10 for an extra 1 GB, $20 for 3 GB or $40 for 8 GB. This is all 3g... but speeds are pretty horrible. It ranges from 0.26 to 0.8 Mbps.
Has anybody used Family Mobile and Straight Talk or another carrier that believe they have a better deal?
Thanks!

Straight talk AT&T > Tmobile since you can actually get coverage...

AshtonTS said:
Straight talk AT&T > Tmobile since you can actually get coverage...
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Got plenty of coverage here with ST T-Mo. Able to pull 15 Mbps down on their DC-HSPA+ 42 network in South Florida. It is awesome.
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So let me get this straight...
I pay $45 + $35 / mo. and only get 250 Mb. So with Straight Talk... I get better coverage, 2 GB of unthrottled data (vs. 250 MB) for $10 more?
How much does it cost for additional data?
Thank you so much for the replies.

SacTu said:
So let me get this straight...
I pay $45 + $35 / mo. and only get 250 Mb. So with Straight Talk... I get better coverage, 2 GB of unthrottled data (vs. 250 MB) for $10 more?
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Correct. The world of MVNOs (companies using the main carriers' networks) is a brilliant one. The saving grace of American telecom (outside of the $30 T-Mobile plan you mentioned).
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1. How much does additional data cost on Straight Talk?
Also, when selecting Straight Talk's "Please choose the type of phone you have"
"Phone is CDMA..."
"Unlocked GSM Phone"
"AT&T Compatible Phone"
"T-Mobile Compatible Phone"
2. Is it better to pick Unlocked, AT&T, T-Mobile or does it not matter as they both use the same frequency and will allow you to switch between one tower or the other depending on better service?
3. I'm guessing Straight Talk doesn't have any additional line services, so I'll have to buy two separate ones for me and my mom?
Sorry for all the questions, hopefully I'll be able to relay these answers to future people as I am forever in your debt.

SacTu said:
1. How much does additional data cost on Straight Talk?
Also, when selecting Straight Talk's "Please choose the type of phone you have"
"Phone is CDMA..."
"Unlocked GSM Phone"
"AT&T Compatible Phone"
"T-Mobile Compatible Phone"
2. Is it better to pick Unlocked, AT&T, T-Mobile or does it not matter as they both use the same frequency and will allow you to switch between one tower or the other depending on better service?
3. I'm guessing Straight Talk doesn't have any additional line services, so I'll have to buy two separate ones for me and my mom?
Sorry for all the questions, hopefully I'll be able to relay these answers to future people as I am forever in your debt.
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When starting a Straight Talk plan, it actually DOES matter what you select here. If you choose AT&T compatible, then you will use the AT&T network. If you choose T-Mobile, then you use the T-Mobile Network. If I recall correctly, simply choosing "Unlocked GSM phone," will give you an AT&T compatible SIM.
There are benefits of each network. AT&T generally has better coverage, but instead of deploying DC-HSPA+ 42mbps, they opted for LTE. The Straight Talk MVNO does not currently have access to LTE (last time I checked).
T-Mobile, on the other hand, may not have as great of coverage but, if you happen to have good coverage, you could have access to their HSPA+ 42 speeds.
Their have also been reports of users getting throttled at different points depending on what network they chose with Straight Talk.

depends on the coverage in your area. Straight talk ATT in my area has great coverage but data speed is slow. tmobile runs fast like most advertised here but its spotty in a lot of places i travel to. since u can purchase a tmobile sim for $30 you wont lose much to test it out.

1. Pick at&t micro SIM.
2. See #1. No switching between at&t and T-Mobile since they mostly use different frequencies and prepaid MVNO don't data roam.
3. Yes.
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Straight talk has a 100mb per day limit as well..... Go above it several times and they reserve the right to outright just kill service. Something to keep in mind.

I've been pleasantly surprised by tmo coverage in Indianapolis. I thought I was going to see a bunch of dead spots. I've only seen one. Out of the city may be different.

How do you go about getting the T-Mobile $30 a month plan without having to actually buy a phone from them/Walmart? I don't see this option anywhere

facetubespam said:
How do you go about getting the T-Mobile $30 a month plan without having to actually buy a phone from them/Walmart? I don't see this option anywhere
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Tmobile offers a microSIM activation kit on their website, and once you get it you can activate it online
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ST Tmo is hard to beat IMO, in your situation though I'd go $45 ST plan + pageplus for your mom.
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Straight talk AT&T > Tmobile since you can actually get coverage...
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I get the same coverage but better call quality with Tmo.

I'm on the $30 tmo plan and it is pretty awesome. Coverage in the wild is slim to none, but in metro areas the speeds are excellent and I don't ever find myself wishing for LTE.
Getting the plan is a little tricky, as tmo won't sell it to you in the store. But you can activate it online (ironically enough.. inside their store too) or through walmart website.

If you can get coverage, T-Mobile is the best one in the US. I'm pulling 22Mbps here in Tampa, it's insane.

Pheno.menon said:
I'm on the $30 tmo plan and it is pretty awesome. Coverage in the wild is slim to none, but in metro areas the speeds are excellent and I don't ever find myself wishing for LTE.
Getting the plan is a little tricky, as tmo won't sell it to you in the store. But you can activate it online (ironically enough.. inside their store too) or through walmart website.
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nevermind i found the answer to my question.

svengalis said:
I know the $30 plan is only available to new customers. I am already on tmobile now with a g2x, would i be able to get on the $30 plan with the Nexus 4?
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Yes, but you would have to get a new number
If you want to keep your number, you need to port over to google voice and then activate the account with the plan and port the number from GV into the account with the $30 plan
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gagdude said:
Yes, but you would have to get a new number
If you want to keep your number, you need to port over to google voice and then activate the account with the plan and port the number from GV into the account with the $30 plan
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Okay thank you!

gagdude said:
Tmobile offers a microSIM activation kit on their website, and once you get it you can activate it online
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Thanks!
I want to try out how T-Mobile's service fares here vs my current AT&T which is serving me very well, but always looking to maximize the N4

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TMOBILE vs SPRINT

Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
mikerowes69 said:
Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
Evo_Shift said:
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
raptoro07 said:
What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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Thanks for your info. It will not bother too much since I dont use over 2 GB a month.
BrianDigital said:
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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tycruickshank said:
T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM, the phones are not interchangable on each other's network. You would have to get a GSM phone, and it would have to have T-Mobile specific frequencies for HSPDA+ (Their "4G" which is 1700mhz, different that AT&T's 1900mhz) in order to get 4G speeds.
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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BrianDigital said:
That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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I bought my phone (i9020T) used for around 200, but you can still find new ones around on the internet for I think around 400-500 USD maybe cheaper if you can find a good deal. The i9023 (the SLCD screen) is usually cheaper. I found some online for around 300 - 350 USD. Both the i9023 and the i9020T will work with 3G on T-Mobile's network. The data speeds I get are quite good as well. Some places I'll get as much as 5 megs down but the norm is usually around 3 to 4 for me. There are no limitation with the plan really that I can think of. I mean the only thing is that you only get 100 minutes but I've bought Groove IP (VOIP app in the Play Store) so essentially I have unlimited minutes now as well. Only paying $30 a month.
All you have to do is get a T-Mobile prepaid sim from the website and pop it in the phone and you're good to go.
I did exact as user above, $30 and then Groove IP. For my location T-Mobile is vastly faster, but you have to check your location coverage. In big cities Sprint can be fast. Since their phone is CDMA they don't use SIM so their phones goes for slighty lower value. You can get Sprint Nexus S cheaper than GSM version.
Check here for some prepaid plans: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2
I hope this doesn't seem like an ass move but, but I have a Nexus S t-mobile for sale.
I can't wait my etc goes down to a hundred in a month, I'm debating just going galaxy nexus or HTC one x, either one that's for sale at best buy and use that buy back plan which my girl didbwith her new iPhone 4s she's been guarenteed 400 bucks before six months, it almost worth it to be a phone whore
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I like the Pre-Paid Montly plans in T-Mobile.
$30 100 mins/UL SMS/ 5GB 4G data Walmart and online?
$30 1500 min-SMS /30Mb
$50 UL min/UL SMS/ UL Data(1st 100 mb at 4G)
$60 UL /UL /UL Data (1st 2GB 4G)
I use the $50, You can change every month to any of the plans.
Tip :If you buy the Card in Calling Mart $100 goes for $95 no tax charged.
So if you pick the $50 it would be like paying around 44+Tax in a post paid (Yes $44 for an unlimited everything).
About Signal, I don't have problems, ATT is a little better(3G+) but much more expensive.
Now I don't like Sprint or Verizon because I like the flexibility of having a GSM unlocked phone.

The Prepaid List (USA)

Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I've noticed a lot of people being caught by surprise when they hear how little I pay for my data plan. I'd like to make a list of all prepaid plans, how much you pay, what you get, and what the coverage is for smartphones. Let's go!
Virgin Mobile ($35/month = 300 mins, unlimited txt+data)
Pros: Cheap, simple plans, good customer service
Cons: Not many high-end phones, have to buy VM branded phone (can't bring your own), Sprint coverage, expensive if you talk a LOT
T-Mobile's 4g plan ($30/month = 100 mins, unlimited txt+3g data, 5gb 4g data)
Pros: Perfect for people who talk very little, tons of fast data without throttling, can bring your own phone or buy through 3rd party (ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc)
Cons: Low minutes, if you go over your minutes, you are automatically upgraded to the next teir plan which only includes 300mb data and cannot switch back unless you buy a new sim card (aka, confusing plan), T-Mobile coverage
Straight Talk's BYOD Sim Card ($45/month = unlimited voice+data, ~2gb HSPA+ data)
Pros: AT&T coverage, unlimited minutes, can bring virtually any gsm device (offer both t-mobile and at&t sim cards)
Cons: Customer service is horrible, plans and coverage confusing*
*Straight Talk has deals with all major carriers, which is why they have several different coverage maps. For the prepaid android phones you buy from them, you get Sprint coverage. If you choose the BYOD sim plan, you get either T-Mobile or AT&T coverage (depending on which sim card you choose). Some of their prepaid dumbphones use Verizon's towers, so you'll see that coverage map, too. Basically, get an AT&T sim and you get AT&T coverage. Not too bad.
Also, it's worth noting that T-Mobile and Virgin are both very clear about data limits and what happens when. Straight Talk is a lot less clear, basically saying if you don't tether or stream, you have unlimited data, but if they catch you using a TON of data they do have the right to kick you off their plan. If you want to stream pandora 16 hours a day, this isn't the plan for you.
Please feel free to add to this list or make corrections if you see them. I wrote this in response to an article on Cnet today, and am basically just copying and pasting. I know there are more carriers, but there are the three I personally have experience with. If you have experience and know a carrier inside and out, send a reply! I'd like to eventually get all prepaid carriers in the US.
I just ordered an att sim for my pre2
If I don't like it I'll put it on my razr n give it to my mom
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There are other options but none are really much better than what you posted. However, there is a pretty huge thread in the Galaxy Nexus forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
There's also RedPocket. They run on AT&T's network. They have payAsYouGo by the minute and PayMonthly. I'm use Their Unlimited Talk, Text and 2GB Data plan for $59.99. I would suggest them if Straight Talk's nebulous data limits don't work for you and you prefer AT&T's network. I use RedPocket in my HTC One X....
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Babydoll25 said:
There's also RedPocket. They run on AT&T's network. They have payAsYouGo by the minute and PayMonthly. I'm use Their Unlimited Talk, Text and 2GB Data plan for $59.99. I would suggest them if Straight Talk's nebulous data limits don't work for you and you prefer AT&T's network. I use RedPocket in my HTC One X....
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Good stuff, but there is a little bit of misinformation here. Straight Talk has two different BYOD sim cards: one runs off of T-Mobile's network and one off of AT&T's.
With that in mind, is there any compelling reason to spend an extra $15/month? (Not trying to be a ****, just wondering if customer service is better, if they subsidize phones, or some other benefit over straight talk.)
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Straight Talk's BYOD Sim Card ($45/month = unlimited voice+data, ~2gb HSPA+ data)
Pros: AT&T coverage, unlimited minutes, can bring virtually any gsm device (offer both t-mobile and at&t sim cards)
Cons: Customer service is horrible, plans and coverage confusing*
*Straight Talk has deals with all major carriers, which is why they have several different coverage maps. For the prepaid android phones you buy from them, you get Sprint coverage. If you choose the BYOD sim plan, you get either T-Mobile or AT&T coverage (depending on which sim card you choose). Some of their prepaid dumbphones use Verizon's towers, so you'll see that coverage map, too. Basically, get an AT&T sim and you get AT&T coverage. Not too bad.
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corrections:
old ST android phones run on Sprint for ST actually only 2 of them does,
the LG Optimus Q and Samsung Galaxy Precedent
we use verizon and TMO for newer android phones (though i was not able to catch up since i transfered to AT&T, last time i was there the LG Optimus Black runs on TMO networks)
Verizon Tower Phones-
all CDMA dumbphones
AT&T & TMO Tower phones-
sim card dependent
Sprint Tower Phones-
Only LG Optimus Q and Samsung Galaxy Precedent
CS is well trained if they are tier 2-3 (that is the supervisors and managers desk)
if you call CS ask immediately to be transfered to a supervisor if you are not contented to a supervisor ask for a manager
tier 1 reps or beginners are the main reason why people say the CS is horrible
they are actually the front-liners and will recieve every given call
30% of tier 1 reps are actually on training (new hires on the job with no experience)
50% of them are less than 6 months tenure
So you think if I switch to ST and do just that I would get good CS?
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Haha, I've gotten a manager who insisted that the byod att sim card wouldn't work with my Galaxy Nexus. They might be "well trained", but if they don't understand English, then they aren't helpful. And to be fair, I have had a few good managers, but you really take your chances.
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MrObvious said:
So you think if I switch to ST and do just that I would get good CS?
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i dont know,
i hate thier management, thats why i left
xxBrun0xx said:
Haha, I've gotten a manager who insisted that the byod att sim card wouldn't work with my Galaxy Nexus. They might be "well trained", but if they don't understand English, then they aren't helpful. And to be fair, I have had a few good managers, but you really take your chances.
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did you happen to ask where was he from?
Yeah. I like T-Mobile but my phone doesn't get 3g. Im hoping the 1900 refarm will fix that. The only other downside is I have 100 minutes, no nights and weekends. I can use Sipdroid but I hate having two numbers and don't use my GV number because it doesn't do MMS or things like how you can text your Facebook status to 32665. Idk. Sorry I just was ranting.
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deathnotice01 said:
i dont know,
i hate thier management, thats why i left
did you happen to ask where was he from?
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She was quite obviously from India lol.
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xxBrun0xx said:
She was quite obviously from India lol.
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we don't have a center from india
you must have misinterpreted her voice
it was from south america maybe guatemala or bogota
Really? I thought for sure her accent was Indian. Do people from those other countries have Indian-sounding accents? I definitely could be wrong about that.
Regardless of where she was from, I have had quite a few atrocious experiences with their customer service.
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xxBrun0xx said:
Really? I thought for sure her accent was Indian. Do people from those other countries have Indian-sounding accents? I definitely could be wrong about that.
Regardless of where she was from, I have had quite a few atrocious experiences with their customer service.
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yea,
tracfone does not contract a center in india cuz they prefer south america for the reason that the head office of our center is in mexico and tracfone is a mexican company
yea, south american agents who are our contact partners does sound indian-like, they are mostly in port related, fraud and android support group,
xxBrun0xx said:
Good stuff, but there is a little bit of misinformation here. Straight Talk has two different BYOD sim cards: one runs off of T-Mobile's network and one off of AT&T's.
With that in mind, is there any compelling reason to spend an extra $15/month? (Not trying to be a ****, just wondering if customer service is better, if they subsidize phones, or some other benefit over straight talk.)
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my first post.
I know they do, however they don't seem to be quite as strict with data use on T-Mobile's network. Also, most people I know prefer Simple Mobile as the MVNO of choice for T-Mobile.
I think the extra 15$ is worth it to have a defined data allotment. On HoFo there are complaints of ST harassing them over as little 1.3GB of usage in a month. I don't like nebulous ToS.....
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So I can put my T-Mobile sim card in a tracfone and it will operate?Do they run on the same frequencies as T-Mobile?how much for just a data plan with tracfone that I can use in my T-Mobile phone.
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
deathnotice01 said:
yea,
tracfone does not contract a center in india cuz they prefer south america for the reason that the head office of our center is in mexico and tracfone is a mexican company
yea, south american agents who are our contact partners does sound indian-like, they are mostly in port related, fraud and android support group,
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I had no idea Tracphone was a base out of Mexico. Cool
booda3000 said:
I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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I use Platinumtel with my Nexus S 4G.
It's:
Sprint's Network
BYOD
$0.05 per minute
$ 0.02 per text
$.10 per Mb data
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This seems to be a pretty terrible deal, and here's my logic (correct me if I'm wrong):
Let's compare to Virgin Mobile, since they also use Sprint's Network. So with VM, you pay for data and voice, and basically get charged $0 per text. Let's do some math!
Assuming you're going with VM's $35/month plan, you're getting 100 minutes and 2.5gb of data (until they throttle you, after which is unlimited. But let's pretend throttled data doesn't exist and they hard capped you instead). Let's look at how much it would cost to use 100 minutes and 2.5gb data on Platinumtel:
100 mins x $0.05/minute = $5
2.5gb data x $0.10/mb x (1000mb/gb) = $250
Total: $5 + $250 = $255/month
Keep in mind this doesn't include texts, which are "free" through VM. Now, let's say you're big on talking. Let's jump up to Virgin's next plan, 1200 minutes for $45.
1200 mins x $0.05/minute = $60
Total: $60 + $255 = $315/month
And the it's really downhill from there (VM has a final plan, which is $55/month with unlimited minutes, but you get the idea).
This plan also fares very poorly against every other prepaid plan, unless you don't do much of anything other than use wifi with your phone and simply need something for emergencies.
But still, if you use 0 minutes, 0 texts, and only 450 mb per month, you're paying as much as you would for Straight Talk, or Virgin's 2nd plan, or a host of other more competitive plans. While pay as you go smartphone plans are cool, this is just way too expensive for what you get.
xxBrun0xx said:
I had no idea Tracphone was a base out of Mexico. Cool
This seems to be a pretty terrible deal, and here's my logic (correct me if I'm wrong):
Let's compare to Virgin Mobile, since they also use Sprint's Network. So with VM, you pay for data and voice, and basically get charged $0 per text. Let's do some math!
Assuming you're going with VM's $35/month plan, you're getting 100 minutes and 2.5gb of data (until they throttle you, after which is unlimited. But let's pretend throttled data doesn't exist and they hard capped you instead). Let's look at how much it would cost to use 100 minutes and 2.5gb data on Platinumtel:
100 mins x $0.05/minute = $5
2.5gb data x $0.10/mb x (1000mb/gb) = $250
Total: $5 + $250 = $255/month
Keep in mind this doesn't include texts, which are "free" through VM. Now, let's say you're big on talking. Let's jump up to Virgin's next plan, 1200 minutes for $45.
1200 mins x $0.05/minute = $60
Total: $60 + $255 = $315/month
And the it's really downhill from there (VM has a final plan, which is $55/month with unlimited minutes, but you get the idea).
This plan also fares very poorly against every other prepaid plan, unless you don't do much of anything other than use wifi with your phone and simply need something for emergencies.
But still, if you use 0 minutes, 0 texts, and only 450 mb per month, you're paying as much as you would for Straight Talk, or Virgin's 2nd plan, or a host of other more competitive plans. While pay as you go smartphone plans are cool, this is just way too expensive for what you get.
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This is true. PAYGO is only good for people who either don't use their phone alot or are next to WIFI enough to satisfy their needs.
I personally like to only pay for what I use and nothing more.
I don't need much data, because I'm either at work or near WIFI.
BTW, PTel has monthly plans also.
If I had WIFI at work, I could probably spend less that $2 a month.
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T-Mobile's 4g plan ($30/month = 100 mins, unlimited txt+3g data, 5gb 4g data)
Pros: Perfect for people who talk very little, tons of fast data without throttling, can bring your own phone or buy through 3rd party (ebay, craigslist, amazon, etc)
Cons: Low minutes, if you go over your minutes, you are automatically upgraded to the next teir plan which only includes 300mb data and cannot switch back unless you buy a new sim card (aka, confusing plan), T-Mobile coverage
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That's a bit incorrect. If you run out of minutes they charge you $.05 a minute. They won't change your plan.
There are quite a few more prepaid providers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014

Best SIM based 3G prepaid network?

I'm looking for a cheap prepaid network based with GSM so that I can get off my family's plan once out contract is up and save them some money. I want to buy an unlocked Note or Nexus to use on the network. Mainly all I want is a decent amount of Data (2GB would work fine cause I hardly even use half a gb a month on Sprint), unlimited texting(I text alot), and maybe around 450 minutes for calling. Plus I want to be able to keep the phone number I have now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and any links to websites with details would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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I'm looking for a cheap prepaid network based with GSM so that I can get off my family's plan once out contract is up and save them some money. I want to buy an unlocked Note or Nexus to use on the network. Mainly all I want is a decent amount of Data (2GB would work fine cause I hardly even use half a gb a month on Sprint), unlimited texting(I text alot), and maybe around 450 minutes for calling. Plus I want to be able to keep the phone number I have now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and any links to websites with details would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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That was exactly my thing; left my family's Sprint plan for Straight Talk AT&T and absolutely loving it. Unlimited text, Unlimited minutes, and psuedo-Unlimited data (Over 2GB is getting into cancellation territory, but with you're usage you're more than safe). About $50 a month after taxes. Make sure you pick "AT&T Compatible SIM" when you buy from http://straighttalk.com so you get AT&T coverage. The SIM will work in unlocked phones or locked AT&T phones (it pretends to be an AT&T SIM). So even a locked iPhone would work. I've had no issues with them so far and been with them for a month. Getting full HSPA+ speeds, which is anywhere from 2-5 Mbps on average. But depending on where you are you might get more (HSPA+ tops off at 21 Mbps). You can port your number over. Don't cancel with Sprint though otherwise your number will be gone. You port the number on Straight Talk's end and then your Sprint line will be cancelled. I personally ported my number to Google Voice and use that to forward to whatever number Straight Talk gave me, so I can dial in and out with my real number. And I use the Voice app for texting and voicemail. Works great because then you can text from your real number from your computer or tablet too
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That was exactly my thing; left my family's Sprint plan for Straight Talk AT&T and absolutely loving it. Unlimited text, Unlimited minutes, and psuedo-Unlimited data (Over 2GB is getting into cancellation territory, but with you're usage you're more than safe). About $50 a month after taxes. Make sure you pick "AT&T Compatible SIM" when you buy from http://straighttalk.com so you get AT&T coverage. The SIM will work in unlocked phones or locked AT&T phones (it pretends to be an AT&T SIM). So even a locked iPhone would work. I've had no issues with them so far and been with them for a month. Getting full HSPA+ speeds, which is anywhere from 2-5 Mbps on average. But depending on where you are you might get more (HSPA+ tops off at 21 Mbps). You can port your number over. Don't cancel with Sprint though otherwise your number will be gone. You port the number on Straight Talk's end and then your Sprint line will be cancelled. I personally ported my number to Google Voice and use that to forward to whatever number Straight Talk gave me, so I can dial in and out with my real number. And I use the Voice app for texting and voicemail. Works great because then you can text from your real number from your computer or tablet too
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I've been thinking about either Straight Talk with ATT SIM, or T-Mobile's prepaid service. Not sure. I really haven't done my research on which carrier has better service in my area. If T-Mobile has better service, I'm going with their prepaid plan due to a higher data limit (I believe I can get a 5GB limit, the reason why I don't use much data on Sprint is due to the horrible data speeds. Still have to look into the details on that.)
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I've been thinking about either Straight Talk with ATT SIM, or T-Mobile's prepaid service. Not sure. I really haven't done my research on which carrier has better service in my area. If T-Mobile has better service, I'm going with their prepaid plan due to a higher data limit (I believe I can get a 5GB limit, still have to look into the details on that. )
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If you're referring to T-Mobile's $30 plan with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting, it only includes 100 minutes. Plus you're pretty limited on phone selection if you plan on using international phones since they mostly use AT&T's 3G/4G bands.
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If you're referring to T-Mobile's $30 plan with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting, it only includes 100 minutes. Plus you're pretty limited on phone selection if you plan on using international phones since they mostly use AT&T's 3G/4G bands.
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I plan on the Nexus devices, and i know that the Galaxy Nexus plays well with T-Mobile's 4G network. If the next Nexus is the same way, then I'm going with that on the T-Mobile prepaid plan. If not, I'm going to go with the Straight Talk AT&T plan. But T-Mobile's plan is nicely priced, and I hardly make calls anyways. Definitely not 100 minutes worth a month.
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I plan on the Nexus devices, and i know that the Galaxy Nexus plays well with T-Mobile's 4G network. If the next Nexus is the same way, then I'm going with that on the T-Mobile prepaid plan. If not, I'm going to go with the Straight Talk AT&T plan. But T-Mobile's plan is nicely priced, and I hardly make calls anyways. Definitely not 100 minutes worth a month.
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Straight Talk has SIM cards for either AT&T bands or T-Mobile. I started with AT&T and switched to a T-Mobile card here in Miami and the T-Mobile speeds are way better than AT&T. On AT&T I was constantly getting 500-600 kbps on the downstream and now I'm never less than 1500. Just make sure your device is compatible with the appropriate carrier's network or you'll be stuck on EDGE until the 30 days are up.
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Straight Talk has SIM cards for either AT&T bands or T-Mobile. I started with AT&T and switched to a T-Mobile card here in Miami and the T-Mobile speeds are way better than AT&T. On AT&T I was constantly getting 500-600 kbps on the downstream and now I'm never less than 1500. Just make sure your device is compatible with the appropriate carrier's network or you'll be stuck on EDGE until the 30 days are up.
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I would do that, but T-Mobiles prepaid plan is cheaper. And seems like the better deal. It all just depends on coverage for me though.
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I would do that, but T-Mobiles prepaid plan is cheaper. And seems like the better deal. It all just depends on coverage for me though.
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I used T-Mobile's $30 plan with my Galaxy Nexus. Worked great of course. From an AT&T MVNO, you can usually get unlimited minutes and texts, and 2GB's of data for around $55.
I was on Straight Talk(AT&T sim), but I really disliked the unknown data limit. Some days, I'm on wifi all day, while other days I download a 512MB's worth of files.
You should take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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I used T-Mobile's $30 plan with my Galaxy Nexus. Worked great of course. From an AT&T MVNO, you can usually get unlimited minutes and texts, and 2GB's of data for around $55.
I was on Straight Talk(AT&T sim), but I really disliked the unknown data limit. Some days, I'm on wifi all day, while other days I download a 512MB's worth of files.
You should take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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I'm gonna start with T-Mobiles $30 plan and see how data is and how well service is everywhere I go. If it's not good, ill keep that plan as a backup and try an AT&T sim on Straight Talk, just in case that if I don't like the service on AT&T's network compared to TMo, I could switch back to T-Mobile's prepaid and keep the $30/month with 5GB unlimited.
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I'm gonna start with T-Mobiles $30 plan and see how data is and how well service is everywhere I go. If it's not good, ill keep that plan as a backup and try an AT&T sim on Straight Talk, just in case that if I don't like the service on AT&T's network compared to TMo, I could switch back to T-Mobile's prepaid and keep the $30/month with 5GB unlimited.
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I was on T-Mobile's plan as well before going with Straight Talk. Look at the fine print, T-Mo throttles big time.
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I was on T-Mobile's plan as well before going with Straight Talk. Look at the fine print, T-Mo throttles big time.
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No they don't. They don't throttle until you hit 5GB's. I get full 4G speeds on that plan. 8-12 down, 1-2 up.
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I'm on the plan and even though I haven't been refarmed and don't have 1700 in my radio I get good 2g speeds. I haven't had any hidden surprises.
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I'm on the plan and even though I haven't been refarmed and don't have 1700 in my radio I get good 2g speeds. I haven't had any hidden surprises.
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What kind of 2G speeds are you getting?
I'm curious because all I can get w/TMO is 2G data speeds.
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What kind of 2G speeds are you getting?
I'm curious because all I can get w/TMO is 2G data speeds.
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Either you're in an area with no 3G or you have an older SIM and need to get it replaced.
It depends but I can see 100 or sometimes 150 kbps down. I wish I had 3g though.
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Just check yourself on the Internet. Not that hard to do.
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Net 10 vs straight talk in NC?

I've got just a few more months on my ATT contract. I searched and did not find a straight answer. Straight talk was my plan but it seems they are not selling the ATT sim cards anymore. I don't think the T-Mobile network is as good in the Charlotte area. What network does net 10 use? Is it as good as straight talk? Is anybody in the Charlotte area using the T-Mobile straight talk or net 10 on the nexus 4?
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Net10 bounces between AT&T and T-Mobile towers, making it an ideal third party hybrid service provider, since it supports both GSM networks.
However, from what I have heard they have daily data caps which when you hit it they will throttle you. Plus it's third party pre-paid, which means service will be bottom of the barrel. I'd rather pay $65 a month on AT&T prepaid if you don't want to go T-Mobile, which has $70 unlimited 4g.
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I've got just a few more months on my ATT contract. I searched and did not find a straight answer. Straight talk was my plan but it seems they are not selling the ATT sim cards anymore. I don't think the T-Mobile network is as good in the Charlotte area. What network does net 10 use? Is it as good as straight talk? Is anybody in the Charlotte area using the T-Mobile straight talk or net 10 on the nexus 4?
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Net10 and straight talk are the same service/company, both tracfone parent. Straight talk is just a deal with Walmart giving a slight discount.
Recently net10 announced att byop would no longer be unlimited and capped at 1.5g data.
Straight talk no longer offers the att byop Sim on their site. You can still find and activate them. So far st has not followed with any changes, although we know att does indeed throttle data speeds randomly at their whim.. YMMV
Here's some details;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120957
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996686
Damn. Thanks for the info. I hate that ST stopped selling att sims. I would do T-Mobile but I don't think their coverage is as good in this area. More dead spots and such.
I'd definitely go net 10, but they are killing us with the new data cap. BS. I don't know what to do now. I already pay 150$ month for ATT unlimited with a 6 GB shared plan, 2 phones. I bought the nexus 4 intending to get away from their contract, but I don't want to get data capped on net 10, or get worse coverage with T-Mobile version of ST. I don't know what to do.
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Damn. Thanks for the info. I hate that ST stopped selling att sims. I would do T-Mobile but I don't think their coverage is as good in this area. More dead spots and such.
I'd definitely go net 10, but they are killing us with the new data cap. BS. I don't know what to do now. I already pay 150$ month for ATT unlimited with a 6 GB shared plan, 2 phones. I bought the nexus 4 intending to get away from their contract, but I don't want to get data capped on net 10, or get worse coverage with T-Mobile version of ST. I don't know what to do.
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Well feeling kinda bad for you. So first are you off contract? You could try pay as you go on tmo for a month and see how it works out for you.
Another option if you're set on using att is you can buy an st byop att Sim on ebay or save money and buy a net10 att Sim. And activate it on straight talk.com instead. They should be interchangeable, and only cost $1+/- shipped..
I had att st couldn't stand being throttled randomly by att. St had no control over it either.
I switched to Walmart/tmo $30 plan which was passable.
Enough so I just switch back to st but on tmo.
I agree with clock on trying tmobile out for a month and seeing if it meets your needs. You can get a micro sim activation kit for free on the tmobile website on their deals page atm. I live outside of Charlotte(Gastonia, dont judge lol) and their reception can be hit or miss but most places i go i get 1-4 bars which is good enough for me. Even at 1-2 bars i get around 10Mbps down and 1 up with a ping around 500-600ms. On another note they are going to an uncarrier strategy(no annual contract on postpaid starting late March), so basically all plans start with $50 for unl talk and text and 500mb data, anything over 500 they will charge $10 for every 2gb up to 12gb cutoff. I think there will be a $70 unl everything plan that includes mobile hotspot. I hope this helps some.
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I agree with clock on trying tmobile out for a month and seeing if it meets your needs. You can get a micro sim activation kit for free on the tmobile website on their deals page atm. I live outside of Charlotte(Gastonia, dont judge lol) and their reception can be hit or miss but most places i go i get 1-4 bars which is good enough for me. Even at 1-2 bars i get around 10Mbps down and 1 up with a ping around 500-600ms. On another note they are going to an uncarrier strategy(no annual contract on postpaid starting late March), so basically all plans start with $50 for unl talk and text and 500mb data, anything over 500 they will charge $10 for every 2gb up to 12gb cutoff. I think there will be a $70 unl everything plan that includes mobile hotspot. I hope this helps some.
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I'm actually in Lowell, (close enough to Gastonia) but work in Charlotte. I do have a little bit of time left on one of the two contracts with ATT. I was going to try to buy out the remainder of the time and break the contract if I was going to save $50 on two phones because I'd make it back in a few months and get unlimited data along with the unlimited talk/text I already enjoy.
I may go ahead and try the net 10. The website still says unlimited data, I heard (on these forums) they announced a data cap but still advertise unlimited on their website. I'm not sure what's up with that. 10 down and 1 up is plenty for me. Usually I'm only downloading new ROMs to flash anyway along with general web and forum browsing.
About that plan with $50 and only 500mb, that would cost me usually 60$-70/month and at that point I might as well stay with ATT and not be on borrowed bandwidth.
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Changing carriers

Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
Sprint is your only option for unlimited data. They don't have HSPA, but are substantially cheaper than Verizon.
I just switched from Verizon to ATT yesterday coming from Unlimited as well.
I switched mainly because of the lack of service in my area of work and lack of availability of phones. Does going from Unlimited to 5Ggb suck, yes, but I also have service where I work and will be able to get the beloved HTC One. I'll just need to keep an eye on my usage from now on.
I pay $10 for every GB I go over which doesn't sound too bad to me.
jammicphi said:
Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
I'm joining my fiance's AT&T plan here in NY, there data for two lines isn't horrible. $150 for Unlimited Talk/Text and 4GB shared data for $150 for a few business/pleasure phones isn't too bad, she's paying $100 a month for her non-smartphone though, ****ing crazy!
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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you order the HTC One on locked can you provide link plz, and i did not even think about staright talk that looks really promising same network as AT&T unlimited calls and text plus data unlimited? now im sure they throttle usage over a certain amount just not sure what that amount of data would be.
Witek_M said:
Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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You order a sim card from straight Talks website
Straight Talk uses Verizon towers where I live, my wife too uses it with her gnex
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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It does but HTC One 801e I have ordered does not have frequencies that are needed with T-Mobile.
jammicphi said:
ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
jammicphi said:
Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Then I say Sprint. They are about 90% done with their Network Vision upgrade in Chicago.
You can visit Sensorly.com so that you can see how their LTE coverage is in your area.

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