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Nexus S kills the batteries

Hello
My friend have a Nexus S (9020A) the problem is when the battery dies it's impossible to charge the phone, it won't turn on! I have tried with a lot of batteries now and it kills all of them! it works like normal when you don't let the battery die completely but it should not do this anyway, what is wrong?

I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
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What? That's just nonsense.

If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?

gsvnet said:
If you turn the phone off and then try to charge it with the battery in, you're not able to charge it?
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no, the phone kills the batteries, I would have test the batteries on other phone if I had, but atm I just have the Nexus S, it won't let me charge the batteries when they are dead.. if there is 1% left I can charge but when it dies it's dead forever... there must be something wrong with the phone, right?

Try wiping battery stats?

Harbb said:
Try wiping battery stats?
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don't work.. when battery have some % left the phone works like normal... but if I let it die, then it's dead.. I can't even turn on the phone, it's like there is no battery inserted.

The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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Rem3Dy said:
The phone should shut down automatically when the voltage reaches a certain threshold. Is the phone not doing this? These batteries are not meant to drop below a certain voltage and doing so could damage them.
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This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?

evcz said:
This ^^
Are you running a modded rom/kernel/calibration tool that let your battery go below the min voltage threshold?
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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, Stock Google Gingerbread and now ICS.
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kyokeun1234 said:
Wait, does this mean I have to turn my wifi and data off whenever I'm charging my phone? Bulls right there...
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No, just go ahead and ignore anything Shark_On_Land posts - he's a slightly slow middle-schooler who claims to be a "developer".
Snt frm my Nxs S 4G sng xd prm

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The phone have doing the same with all type of ROMS, CM7, StockvGoogle Gingerbread and now ICS.
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so does it auto shutdown or not?
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Rem3Dy said:
so does it auto shutdown or not?
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yes I mean when battery dies all phones shutdown or have I missed something? problem is I can't charge the battery when that happens.

Shark_On_Land said:
I think I know what your talking about.
The phone consumes more power than it receives when its using data. Do if your at 5% and charging, but also using the internet. You will last for mere minutes.
Best thing to do is to simply let it charge and not touch it when its doing so. You can still hotspot,text talk. But streaming music, data apps (like tapatalk or skype) and web browser WILL KILL YOUR BATTERY WHILE YOU CHARGE.
But if your saying it won't charge. Sorry. No idea
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This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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if the phone is doing the same with all type of ROMS, then it may be hardware related issue.
I have been running various Roms since the start but never faced this issue. A lot of times battery has drained fully. With some of the new roms that are there my phone lasts more than a day with Data on Roaming full time.

I know most phone batteries will not be chargeable if you deplete them completely. Usually this happens by throwin it in the drawer and not using it for a long time but ive never heard of it happening just by using the phone. Id say its definitely a hardware issue

Bradart said:
This is so insanely inaccurate. Using the hotspot is one of the most battery intensive operations the phone can carry out. Streaming music, Skype, and browsing don't even hold a candle to it. The only thing that comes close would be navigation (and that can be even worse sometimes), followed by talking on the phone by a pretty decent, but not massive margin. It also depends on the charger. Where do you get your information?
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Trial & error
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Shark_On_Land said:
Trial & error
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A lot of error in your case...

Nexus 7 crazy battery drain

I've only used it for 8 minutes and the battery has gone down 3%. I'm on 4.2
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Well, you still got 97% >_>'
Do you really think that the battery would drain intense after such a small drop? This isn't crazy.
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idevice12345 said:
I've only used it for 8 minutes and the battery has gone down 3%. I'm on 4.2
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That gives you 4.5 hrs of use until it gets to 0%. So depending on what you are doing maybe that's actually OK. Post back once it hits 0% with the actual screen on time.

We have a troll here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009795

Guhrasoh said:
We have a troll here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009795
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I honestly think one of Google's competitors is funding some of these ad hominem attacks.

scott_doyland said:
That gives you 4.5 hrs of use until it gets to 0%. So depending on what you are doing maybe that's actually OK. Post back once it hits 0% with the actual screen on time.
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But the battery is supposed to last 9 hours. I was just browsing the web
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idevice12345 said:
But the battery is supposed to last 9 hours. I was just browsing the web
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Referencing the Nexus 7 Guidebook, the claim is not 9 hours, but rather up to 8 hours of active use. As with any consumer electronics, that represents optimal conditions. Your screen brightness setting, what you,really doing, etc, are amongst the many variables that will affect battery drain. Having the screen on full bright is with white backgrounds is going to drain a battery exponentially faster than low brightness with darker images.
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Weird Battery?

I just installed apex launcher yesterday and thought id change the power toggles icon to battery to keep an eye on how the launcher would affect my battery life. A few hours ago i charged my phone fully. I noticed the battery went to 98 percent fairly quickly but then it went back up to 100. I checked my battery stats to make sure it wasnt just the power toggles playing up. But the graph actually showed the battery percentage going up.
Any ideas?

Is your device new?
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The battery meter and graph are more of a rough approximation of your battery. It reads off of the current the battery receives. If it spikes you could see the battery graph drop a little and then go back up.
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android88 said:
Is your device new?
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No, Ive had it since mid December. First time I seen this happening

Rizy7 said:
No, Ive had it since mid December. First time I seen this happening
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Is this your first Android device?

karan_singh_9008 said:
Is this your first Android device?
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Why does it even matter?
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AW: Weird Battery?
I had this 100-98-100 bug, too. Happened to me 2 times. It seems to be just a small bug, doesn't bother me too much.
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Battery life problems

Is anyone else experiencing very bad battery life? I use it for five minutes and it drops 5%... Am I doing some
Thing wrong?
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Welcome to life of the S4. No youre not doimg anything wrong. The best thing I can suggest is using Juice Defender, and a Task Manager. Turning mobile data off when not in use, screen brightness at about halfway. I can squeez about 20 hours out of this phone with moderate use this way.
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You're doing something wrong if it drops one percent per minute
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You could give the new qualcomm battery app a shot... takes a few days to read your usage then starts adjusting things like app sync times etc to save your battery.
I just started trying it out. Looks promising.
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Battery life is like the only good thing about the galaxy s4. I'm so disappointed with the lag and the overall performance of the phone. But battery life lasts me the whole day. I have the At&t galaxy s4.

What's the app called?
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Right im just not sure what I am doing wrong though because I have restored my phone many times with no results.
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drucquerkellan said:
What's the app called?
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Battery Guru

Thanks
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joeybear23 said:
You could give the new qualcomm battery app a shot... takes a few days to read your usage then starts adjusting things like app sync times etc to save your battery.
I just started trying it out. Looks promising.
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From my personal experience with it, it keeps waking up my phone when it goes into deep sleep. It wastes more battery by constantly waking it than it saves me.

drucquerkellan said:
Right im just not sure what I am doing wrong though because I have restored my phone many times with no results.
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When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.

No lag here, at all... My best for battery is 3 days, with 4 and a half hours screen-time...

alphadog00 said:
When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.
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OK thanks I'll try that
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King Ding-a-ling said:
No lag here, at all... My best for battery is 3 days, with 4 and a half hours screen-time...
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Wow mine won't be on for a whole day and it'll drop down to 50%
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alphadog00 said:
When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.
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My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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drucquerkellan said:
My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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Keep in mind there are lots of variables at work.
Wifi vs. Cell data - Turn on Wifi and battery usage goes down a LOT - if you are in a wifi area all the time. Cellular data is a battery pig.
Weak signal area - another battery pig - i have had phones drain in 8 hours doing nothing if i had poor reception
Usage mix - Your 2.5 hours of screen time, could be good if you have screen at high brightness and are streaming cellular data (movie) and if you are also syncing email, facebook, and everything else in the background.
If you do all your data by Cellular, then 4 hours of screen time will probably be your limit. It is hard to tell if you have a wake lock issue or not, as we don't know anything else about your usage, apps that are frozen, gestures on/off, etc.

Monkz said:
From my personal experience with it, it keeps waking up my phone when it goes into deep sleep. It wastes more battery by constantly waking it than it saves me.
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Thanks I'll keep that in mind.
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drucquerkellan said:
My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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What does the next screen show - when you tap on the graph - it will show screen on time and wake time.
And do you have power save mode on?

Need a little help think I may have a dodgy note 3

My battery life is horrendous where is everyone getting these hours of usage here's mine
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Looks like my S3...

What do you mean looks like your s3
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You probably have a battery drain. Try this: charge your battery till 100% before you go to sleep, leave it in standby over night and see how much power you loose. My 9005 goes from 100% to 96% in 9 hours of standby, which is pretty good. If yours loses much more, you probably have an app keeping your phone awake. A first check would be the location tracking settings in Google maps. Switch location report and location history off. They are famous battery drainers.
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congusto said:
You probably have a battery drain. Try this: charge your battery till 100% before you go to sleep, leave it in standby over night and see how much power you loose. My 9005 goes from 100% to 96% in 9 hours of standby, which is pretty good. If yours loses much more, you probably have an app keeping your phone awake. A first check would be the location tracking settings in Google maps. Switch location report and location history off. They are famous battery drainers.
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holy crap! no way it goes from 100 to 96 in 9 hours. 4g or wifi? that is crazy. what about with heavy screen usage?

oneandroidnut said:
holy crap! no way it goes from 100 to 96 in 9 hours. 4g or wifi? that is crazy. what about with heavy screen usage?
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Wifi. I was pleasantly surprised myself I didn't try heavy screen usage yet, but with normal use including telephone calls, navigation, note taking etc. I get through the day easily without extra charging. A normal day for me lasts from 7:00 till midnight, with 30% battery left at the end of the day.

congusto said:
Wifi. I was pleasantly surprised myself I didn't try heavy screen usage yet, but with normal use including telephone calls, navigation, note taking etc. I get through the day easily without extra charging. A normal day for me lasts from 7:00 till midnight, with 30% battery left at the end of the day.
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if mine makes it that long i will be happy!!

MopHeadGeek said:
What do you mean looks like your s3
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Sorry, probably I was not helpful. Just saying I am running an SG3 on CM and that is exactly what my battery usage looks like, I hope you get it fixed an d I hope it is not indicative of the SGN3 that I'm getting my hands on tomorrow. Cheers.

Not to rub it in, just to show you that a good battery life ís in fact possible: on 4G/LTE the battery power went from 100% to 98% in 2,5 hrs.
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