[Q] Wont root after manual update? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just pushed the new 4.2 update via adb,
I then tried re-rooting as I lost root in the project.
I used WugFreshs at first, which said successful. I tried root check and titanium backup which both said no root access.
I then tried mikes toolkit and chose root and install busybox, all that wen through great and said successful, so I retried Tibackup and rootchecker again, both were denied root access.
This time round, rootcheck said "System Running Slow" whilst checking for root access.
What should I do?
Re-boot into recovery and clear cache etc?
Factory reset?
Both?
For some reason superuser is installed not supersu if that makes a difference?
Any help appreciated.

Wilks3y said:
I just pushed the new 4.2 update via adb,
I then tried re-rooting as I lost root in the project.
I used WugFreshs at first, which said successful. I tried root check and titanium backup which both said no root access.
I then tried mikes toolkit and chose root and install busybox, all that wen through great and said successful, so I retried Tibackup and rootchecker again, both were denied root access.
This time round, rootcheck said "System Running Slow" whilst checking for root access.
What should I do?
Re-boot into recovery and clear cache etc?
Factory reset?
Both?
For some reason superuser is installed not supersu if that makes a difference?
Any help appreciated.
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I apply the update by doing fresh install:
-always backup your data
Then I use wug's nexus root toolkit:
-flash stock + unroot 4.1.2 jzo54k
-flash zip stock + unroot 4.2 jop40c
-change the model type to "NAKASI: Android *.*.* Any build"
-apply root

gesitkumara said:
I apply the update by doing fresh install:
-always backup your data
Then I use wug's nexus root toolkit:
-flash stock + unroot 4.1.2 jzo54k
-flash zip stock + unroot 4.2 jop40c
-change the model type to "NAKASI: Android *.*.* Any build"
-apply root
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I applied the update over the top of 4.1.2, wiped cache and then restarted.
I then used Wug's toolkit to root, which didn't work.
So I tried Mikes, which also didnt work.
Both report the Root as being succesful, but they arent.
If I change the model to all types on Wug's, would that make a difference?
Is it worth trying a manual root?

I use the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit which was great in fixing the problems after upgrade. Flashing the previous version bootloader (I think that is what it was) solved the root problem. The hints and guidance in this application are great and have always solved my problems. No offence meant to Wug here, I just find the other application suits me better.
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Waxwrong said:
I use the Google Nexus 7 Toolkit which was great in fixing the problems after upgrade. Flashing the previous version bootloader (I think that is what it was) solved the root problem. The hints and guidance in this application are great and have always solved my problems. No offence meant to Wug here, I just find the other application suits me better.
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As already said, both Toolkits have been attempted and both report that its rooted, but my device tells me otherwize, as do Titanium Backup.
Can someone just give me a step by step for what I should do to gain Root again?!

Wilks3y said:
As already said, both Toolkits have been attempted and both report that its rooted, but my device tells me otherwize, as do Titanium Backup.
Can someone just give me a step by step for what I should do to gain Root again?!
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Hi, are you using the fully updated version of Toolkit (updated to include the 4.2 stuff. When I did mine I was told to go ahead but if it didn't work the next step was to flash the 4.1 bootloader? as it was compatible with 4.2
The root with the 4.2 bootloader didn't give me root so I flashed the 4.1 bootloader and rooted again. This was successful for me. The Toolkit application gives you step by step instructions as you request as long as it is updated to do 4.2 and follow the advice you should have no problem.
I don't think you can do the full updates in the application unless you are a donater. If I remember correctly you cannot update the application unless you use the donater version. The update for 4.2 came out at almost the same time as 4.2 was being pushed to devices.
You sound cluey enough to know you must use USB debugging but many users don't realise this or the tapping on the build trick to get the developer options available so you can select USB debugging.
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Waxwrong said:
Hi, are you using the fully updated version of Toolkit (updated to include the 4.2 stuff. When I did mine I was told to go ahead but if it didn't work the next step was to flash the 4.1 bootloader? as it was compatible with 4.2
The root with the 4.2 bootloader didn't give me root so I flashed the 4.1 bootloader and rooted again. This was successful for me. The Toolkit application gives you step by step instructions as you request as long as it is updated to do 4.2 and follow the advice you should have no problem.
I don't think you can do the full updates in the application unless you are a donater. If I remember correctly you cannot update the application donate version. The update for 4.2 came out at almost the same time as 4.2 was being pushed to devices.
You sound cluey enough to know you must use USB debugging but many users don't realise this or the tapping on the build trick to get the developer options available so you can select USB debugging.
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Hey mate, thanks for your reply !
I downloaded both ToolKits yesterday, so I'm guessing they are the newly updated ones?
Yes my tablet has usb debugging enabled, and is put into the Camera Mode.
I will have another go tonight, and try a different way, including using the "All Models" choice you mentioned.
If this doens't work, whereabouts in the ToolKit(Wug's) if the option to downgrade HBOOT in order to try the Root method you attempted which was successful.
Again, thanks mate !

Wilks3y said:
Hey mate, thanks for your reply !
I downloaded both ToolKits yesterday, so I'm guessing they are the newly updated ones?
Yes my tablet has usb debugging enabled, and is put into the Camera Mode.
I will have another go tonight, and try a different way, including using the "All Models" choice you mentioned.
If this doens't work, whereabouts in the ToolKit(Wug's) if the option to downgrade HBOOT in order to try the Root method you attempted which was successful.
Again, thanks mate !
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I don't use Rug's Toolkit but Mike's Toolkit (only because it is easier to follow and use because it tells you what to do at all stages). You can see if it is updated by checking whether it has functions for 4.2 - I always use it for flashing the latest roms as well as the unlocking, root, recovery, etc, all of which the Toolkit guides you through. It even downloads the roms for you.
My only question is why did you put it in camera mode, change it back.
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Just install the 4.2 that is already Stock rooted, de-odexed apps.
Install the ROM as already Stock rooted, de-odexed apps.
Here is the link for the download: http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=288
Thanks to Scott's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991157

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[Q] Nexus 7 (4.1.2) can't root

Hi I have a Nexus 7 version (4.1.2 OTA).
I wanted to ask what the deal is or what I'm doing wrong. I purchased the full version of Nexus ToolKit 7. According to the instructions I made the unlocked bootloader and I wanted to root but each attempt failed.
I do not know what I could do wrong when root is fully automated.
PS: I also tried to reflash Stock Rom (4.1.2)
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IAmNice said:
usb debugging on? Have you checked that?
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Hi. Yes mam (usb debugging on) have a look to the attachment.
Toolkit me boot into fastboot then reboot then for something to fastboot loaded and back to android and trying to upload the files but nothing superuser is not recorded because of (read-only file system).
have a look on the attachment is there to see everything ...
yep same issue here - problem with the forum regs is unless you have enough posts you can't actually address the issue to the appropriate person can you? Anyway, able to unlock but then is unable to root and rest due to a permissions problem. have tried as administrator but of coure this doesn't make any difference.
NexusTropers said:
Hi I have a Nexus 7 version (4.1.2 OTA).
I wanted to ask what the deal is or what I'm doing wrong. I purchased the full version of Nexus ToolKit 7. According to the instructions I made the unlocked bootloader and I wanted to root but each attempt failed.
I do not know what I could do wrong when root is fully automated.
PS: I also tried to reflash Stock Rom (4.1.2)
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You can try flashing CWM recovery and installing Superuser from there.
Download Superuser and copy it to your /sdcard
Flash CWM recovery
Install Superuser from CWM
????
Profit.
try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796109
comminus said:
You can try flashing CWM recovery and installing Superuser from there.
Download Superuser and copy it to your /sdcard
Flash CWM recovery
Install Superuser from CWM
????
Profit.
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Thanks comminus - but I think that if we could do this then we wouldn't be using the tool kit.
bazabaza said:
Thanks comminus - but I think that if we could do this then we wouldn't be using the tool kit.
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Why not try before you give up? Nothing I suggested is even remotely challenging.
With your tablet booted normally plug it in to your computer and copy the superuser zip in my previous post to the Download directory on your Nexus 7 from Windows.
Judging by the first provided screenshot I can see that option 6 in that toolkit is for flashing recovery. Why not try that?
As far as how to install the zip from ClockworkMod (CWM), there are literally hundreds of threads and YouTube videos that will show you what to do. The better option is to spend a few minutes (literately. It only takes a few minutes.) to learn some basic fastboot commands. If you're willing to learn there are many people who will help.
comminus said:
Why not try before you give up? Nothing I suggested is even remotely challenging.
With your tablet booted normally plug it in to your computer and copy the superuser zip in my previous post to the Download directory on your Nexus 7 from Windows.
Judging by the first provided screenshot I can see that option 6 in that toolkit is for flashing recovery. Why not try that?
As far as how to install the zip from ClockworkMod (CWM), there are literally hundreds of threads and YouTube videos that will show you what to do. The better option is to spend a few minutes (literately. It only takes a few minutes.) to learn some basic fastboot commands. If you're willing to learn there are many people who will help.
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Thx you for your post
But in the Nexus7 ToolKit can be done but is ClockworkMod must first rename (recovery restore files) but with da only when I have ROOT.
And why unnecessary to install CWM and resolve other problems I'll eat a connection. If "simply" can I ROOT who create me rich enough.
NexusTropers said:
Thx you for your post
But in the Nexus7 ToolKit can be done but is ClockworkMod must first rename (recovery restore files) but with da only when I have ROOT.
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Choose #1 in your first screenshot.
After you install CWM make sure you boot recovery before a standard boot. On rebooting from CWM it will say something like "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot." and prompt with yes or no. Choose yes - this renames /system/recovery-from-boot.p and prevents the ROM from restoring stock recovery.
NexusTropers said:
And why unnecessary to install CWM and resolve other problems I'll eat a connection. If "simply" can I ROOT who create me rich enough.
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I'm not really sure what you're trying to say...
I tried quite a few times to root my Nexus 7 with the Nexus 7 toolkit, it hung every time when it was supposed to be installing SuperSU and BusyBox. Every time the last message I saw was "adbd already running as root", and it would just hang there. Everything else appeared to work properly. The only tool I was able to successfully use (more than once) was the Nexus Root Toolkit from Wugfresh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475. You may want to try that tool.
comminus said:
Choose #1 in your first screenshot.
After you install CWM make sure you boot recovery before a standard boot. On rebooting from CWM it will say something like "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot." and prompt with yes or no. Choose yes - this renames /system/recovery-from-boot.p and prevents the ROM from restoring stock recovery.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say...
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1. THX u i try it.
2. AH sorry translator make crazy text.
homerbrew said:
I tried quite a few times to root my Nexus 7 with the Nexus 7 toolkit, it hung every time when it was supposed to be installing SuperSU and BusyBox. Every time the last message I saw was "adbd already running as root", and it would just hang there. Everything else appeared to work properly. The only tool I was able to successfully use (more than once) was the Nexus Root Toolkit from Wugfresh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475. You may want to try that tool.
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Oki THX u i try this tool...
I'm also having this same problem but here's my story:
Using the Nexus 1.5.4 Toolkit, I Unrooted + Flashed jzo54k, success. I locked OEM, success. I unlocked again, success. Then I ran the root process again, and it keeps freezing at the android recovery screen. Following the prompt in the toolkit, I walked away for a few hours hoping time would resolve the issue.
If you're wondering why I unlocked + rooted, and decided to unroot, lock, unlock, and root again, its because I'm super-noob to anything android related after version 1.5, I wanted to learn the processes after I found out I was having troubles with certian things after my Nexus 7 updated from 4.1 to 4.1.2
I am having the same issue as you. 4.1.2 is not rooting for me. I can't install CWM or TWRP because it needs to rename recovery files, and to do that you need to be rooted. If I boot in recovery I always get stock
Having the same issue with a stock 4.1.2. I can unlock no problem but I cannot get it rooted. Everything appears to have worked, but it is not rooted. If I revert back to 4.1.1 I can unlock, root, etc. without issue. I was able to root 4.1.1 and use the root keeper app to then update to 4.1.2 and I was rooted still. However, it would not let me install CWM or anything. ROM Manager says it was installed, but booting to recovery always too me to stock.
Any ideas?
Can you point me into the direction to downgrading?
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MetalMadness said:
Can you point me into the direction to downgrading?
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I used Nexus Root Toolkit v1.5.4 and selected the "Flash Stock + Unroot" option. When prompted I choose the default 4.1.1 option and away it went.
To root my 32Gb on 4.1.2 I had to unlock the boot loader, flash the boot loader back to version 3.34, and then I successfully rooted using the nexus 7 toolkit.
hundred_miles_high said:
To root my 32Gb on 4.1.2 I had to unlock the boot loader, flash the boot loader back to version 3.34, and then I successfully rooted using the nexus 7 toolkit.
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Winner winner! I was just reading THIS which is exactly what you suggested. I just tried this and can confirm that it did work.
Thanks!
hundred_miles_high said:
To root my 32Gb on 4.1.2 I had to unlock the boot loader, flash the boot loader back to version 3.34, and then I successfully rooted using the nexus 7 toolkit.
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Indy1204 said:
Winner winner! I was just reading THIS which is exactly what you suggested. I just tried this and can confirm that it did work.
Thanks!
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Thanks. I did this earlier and it didnt work, but I checked boot instead of flash
FLASH THE OLDER BOOTLOADER DON'T BOOT IT!!!

[Q] Android 4.2 Root Method?

I know it's a bit early, but does one exist yet?
Just flashed from rooted/stock 4.1.2 to 4.2 and have seemed to lost root access. I don't really NEED it, but would like to install my Titanium backups asap. It's also worth noting that the flash took me from TWRP back to stock recovery (andy with red exclamation mark?)
Thanks in advance!
Flash TWRP, then flash SuperSU
See post #5 and #11 in thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989351&page=1
asimons81 said:
I know it's a bit early, but does one exist yet?
Just flashed from rooted/stock 4.1.2 to 4.2 and have seemed to lost root access. I don't really NEED it, but would like to install my Titanium backups asap. It's also worth noting that the flash took me from TWRP back to stock recovery (andy with red exclamation mark?)
Thanks in advance!
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It's a Nexus device. You root it the same way you did last time.
It would be noteworthy if it didn't flash you back to stock recovery. That it did is expected.
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Next time use OTA Rootkeeper before you update to backup and to restore the root after update
others are reporting wugfresh's kit is still working in the thread in general
NeoMagus said:
Next time use OTA Rootkeeper before you update to backup and to restore the root after update
others are reporting wugfresh's kit is still working in the thread in general
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I did, didn't work for me!
PromaneX said:
I did, didn't work for me!
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What didn't, Rootkeeper or Wugfresh? I can't confirm the toolkit since I don't use it myself just going off of what is being said over in General.
If you are talking about Rootkeeper you have to go into the program BEFORE updating and backup the root first, then after the update you go back in and restore it.. if it didn't work, it was user error, not once has it failed to restore for me on several devices, and others have confirmed it still working in the general thread.
eager27 said:
Rootkeeper worked for me. Root fully maintained after update.
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just install a custom recovery - cwm or twrp following the instructions in the android development part of forums and then install the supersu/superuser zip from there
I managed to have root access on 4.2 by using Nexus Root Toolkit. Set the device type to "Nakasi: Android *.*.* Any Build"

[Q] OTA update to 4.2.2 problems

My 7 is unlocked and rooted, using Nexus Root Toolkit. I did an OTA to get to 4.2.1 some time ago and that went well. Root and unlock persisted. I am now getting OTA options for 4.2.2 from the System menu. First time I got and error in Android's belly. I restarted and was still in 4.2.1. System then said that I was up to date. A week or so later System told me again that OTA was available and I got the same result.
Any suggestions as to how I can do the update?
rsipson said:
My 7 is unlocked and rooted, using Nexus Root Toolkit. I did an OTA to get to 4.2.1 some time ago and that went well. Root and unlock persisted. I am now getting OTA options for 4.2.2 from the System menu. First time I got and error in Android's belly. I restarted and was still in 4.2.1. System then said that I was up to date. A week or so later System told me again that OTA was available and I got the same result.
Any suggestions as to how I can do the update?
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You have two choices
1. Flash the stock 4.2.2 image using fastboot from here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Or
2. Flash this in CWM recovery (note this link is for the wifi model) http://android.clients.google.com/p....signed-nakasi-JDQ39-from-JOP40D.6ece895e.zip
You have to restore everything except relocking bootloader ... To be able to update ...when u finish ..just re-root
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Same thing happened to me, I had to unroot and then root again after update.
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heat361 said:
You have two choices
1. Flash the stock 4.2.2 image using fastboot from here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Or
2. Flash this in CWM recovery (note this link is for the wifi model) http://android.clients.google.com/p....signed-nakasi-JDQ39-from-JOP40D.6ece895e.zip
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Thanks for your post. I tried this using Clockwork and got a very long error message. I will quote part of it.
assert failed_apply_patch_check("/system/bin/debuggerd", "a2323a0c8 and a lot more
This is followed by error in file
I saw something about busybox changing some system files.
Any ideas??
How do I unroot without whipping all data?
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Search this forum for "OTA debugged"
There are only a few threads - read them all before you take any action.
This particular problem appears to be caused by StickMount.
You don't need to delete everything, nor do you need to flash the ENTIRE stock image - only the boot.img and system.img (via fastboot) without doing a factory reset or any other wiping.
This will unroot the ROM, and (of course) prevent StickMount from working. So you should over flash a SuperSU root kit afterwards (via custom recovery).
This very same problem may recur on the next OTA - so for goodness sake's, make a nandroid backup before you re-install StickMount and give it root privileges.
bftb0 said:
Search this forum for "OTA debugged"
There are only a few threads - read them all before you take any action.
This particular problem appears to be caused by StickMount.
You don't need to delete everything, nor do you need to flash the ENTIRE stock image - only the boot.img and system.img (via fastboot) without doing a factory reset or any other wiping.
This will unroot the ROM, and (of course) prevent StickMount from working. So you should over flash a SuperSU root kit afterwards (via custom recovery).
This very same problem may recur on the next OTA - so for goodness sake's, make a nandroid backup before you re-install StickMount and give it root privileges.
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Sorry for being a numpty... can someone put the above into a mini step by step guide for me.. I'm stuggling with the terminology.
I rooted my Nexus and have since forgotten anything techie regarding it. I have StickMount and cannot update to 4.2.2..
How do i flash boot.img and system.img via fastboot, where do i get these files from, what versions etc do i need? And over flash SuperSU root kit?
What is OTA?
Basically, I think i need a newbie guide. I am techie enough to achieve most things normally.. i just don't know the android system at all, and what i did know to be able to root it i have completely forgotten!
Any guidance would be very much appreciated. Cheers.

[Q] Lost TWRP and root - Help needed

Hi.
I had my nexus 4 with 4.2.2 stock rom rooted with the Nexus Root toolkit from WUG. TWRP recovery also instaled.
Last night using this software, i flash the 0.84 radio in order to install the factory image of the new 4.3 android (downloaded from google developers site).
I also did that using the Wug software.
Now i already have the 4.3 android on my nexus, but lost root and also twrp recovery. I can´t get to recovery mode and since i'm not rooted anymore, can´t flash any zip, includind the SU from chain fire.
How can i get my recovery mode back and root the phone again??? The phone is unlocked!
thanks.
Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
tigas68 said:
Hi.
I had my nexus 4 with 4.2.2 stock rom rooted with the Nexus Root toolkit from WUG. TWRP recovery also instaled.
Last night using this software, i flash the 0.84 radio in order to install the factory image of the new 4.3 android (downloaded from google developers site).
I also did that using the Wug software.
Now i already have the 4.3 android on my nexus, but lost root and also twrp recovery. I can´t get to recovery mode and since i'm not rooted anymore, can´t flash any zip, includind the SU from chain fire.
How can i get my recovery mode back and root the phone again??? The phone is unlocked!
thanks.
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spicediablo said:
Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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thanks. :good:
tigas68 said:
thanks. :good:
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Still isn't working...
When i tried to fastboot the recovery img the device turns off and never turns on again on is own!
Help please!
I like my root...!
here's the screens of waht happens.
This his what happens when i try to go into recovery mode...
first of all, dont ever use a toolkit.
1. turn phone off
2. plug the phone in via usb
3. hold volume down + power until a screen pops up.. you're in bootloader mode.
4. you better have adb / fastboot environment setup, if not then google and find out how to do it.
5. fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
6. volume down to recovery
7. flash superuser zip
I can confirm the SU work on 4.3 Stock ROM for TWRP I recommend to flash the CWM first and then replace with TWRP it will be easier.
zephiK said:
first of all, dont ever use a toolkit.
1. turn phone off
2. plug the phone in via usb
3. hold volume down + power until a screen pops up.. you're in bootloader mode.
4. you better have adb / fastboot environment setup, if not then google and find out how to do it.
5. fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>.img
6. volume down to recovery
7. flash superuser zip
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zephiK,
Already done that! I flashed the CWM recovery throught fastboot. The device turned off. When i turn it on again and tried to go into recovery mode, so i can flash the SU from chain fire, but got the image on my post!
The phone is unlocked!
That mean you didn't flash the CWM to your phone ~ The image you showing is Official Recovery Mode Screen!
Johnsonyc said:
I can confirm the SU work on 4.3 Stock ROM for TWRP I recommend to flash the CWM first and then replace with TWRP it will be easier.
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I used the sctock rom downloaded from the google developers website!
Johnsonyc said:
That mean you didn't flash the CWM to your phone ~ The image you showing is Official Recovery Mode Screen!
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What he said. The recovery flash isn't going through.
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Why do people seem to think it's any different than with 4.2.2? It's the same bloody procedure!
Now, if you were ***** enough to use a toolkit and not learn how to use fastboot/adb yourself then that's your own fault but seriously there are guides everywhere on how to flash a custom recovery and it's the EASIEST thing in the world
spicediablo said:
Use adb to flash SU. But I've heard SU is not working well with 4.3. Find the instructions below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.
kzoodroid said:
Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.
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I am flash my SuperSU from CWM it does work. I am working so hard to get off the ROOT ! But Root Explorer slap my face, I can't live without it.
kzoodroid said:
Google fixed the vulnerability that was used to gain superuser rights in Android. Chainfire has a semi working version of SuperSU but from what I read only TWRP can flash it properly. On Koush's Google+ feed he says Chainfire had to do a real hack job to get superuser working, thus why it's not working well. He is not sure if he can even get his own open source superuser to work again and made no mention of fixing CWM Recovery to be able to flash SuperSU. As I no longer really need root for any thing I'll just wait and see what Koush can come up with.
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Yeah, I've read the same. In the meantime I've really just learned to love stock Android for what it is. At least until one of the mad geniuses finds a 100% working fix.
Johnsonyc said:
I am flash my SuperSU from CWM it does work. I am working so hard to get off the ROOT ! But Root Explorer slap my face, I can't live without it.
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Agreed. The only main thing I need root for is to use Root Explorer. I can't believe after all the time I still use the hell out of that app. :laugh:
sn0warmy said:
Yeah, I've read the same. In the meantime I've really just learned to love stock Android for what it is. At least until one of the mad geniuses finds a 100% working fix.
Agreed. The only main thing I need root for is to use Root Explorer. I can't believe after all the time I still use the hell out of that app. :laugh:
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I don't even really use root explorer anymore just like having the ability to make nandroid backups. But after doing a clean install of 4.3 in fastboot and it only took 30 minutes from start to finish including app and data restores nandroids to me are not that useful anymore (I don't flash custom ROMs anymore). Google automatically re-installed all my apps as soon as I reconfigured my WIFI, they also restored my APN and my work WIFI settings but not Bluetooth. And I used Helium to restore the user app data and all my texts and helium doesn't need root access to work.
Here is the start of Koush's post on Google+ where he talks about superuser on 4.3.
I finally had a chance to dig into seeing why Superuser is broken on Android 4.3. https://android.googlesource.com/platform/dalvik/+/9907ca3cb8982063a846426ad3bdf3f90e3b87c2
Basically /system is mounted as nosuid to any zygote spawned process (ie, all Android apps). Root will still continue to work via adb shell, etc.
This is a pretty nasty change. It seems that SuperSU works around this by replacing install-recovery.sh to run a su daemon that pipes subsequent through it. Pretty hacky, but understandable why it was done this way.
Will need to look into how to do this in a less invasive fashion, if that is even possible. Of course, if building from source, this change can simply be reverted.
Here's a better explanation about superuser from Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...n-but-chainfires-supersu-works-and-heres-why/
Rooting for me is used for restoring my apps and stuffs using titanium backup. Another useful thing about rooting is the ability to check saved wifi passwords.
Just install twrp from fastboot and then flash the su zip file in twrp
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EddyOS said:
Why do people seem to think it's any different than with 4.2.2? It's the same bloody procedure!
Now, if you were ***** enough to use a toolkit and not learn how to use fastboot/adb yourself then that's your own fault but seriously there are guides everywhere on how to flash a custom recovery and it's the EASIEST thing in the world
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@EddyOS
Your answer is what forums are not about! Instead of helping you had an atitude of an ass...!
@ Everyone else
After 5 or 6 attemps, doing it by the book, the CWD worked and i now have a Recovery mode! I didn´t did anything different, so i couldn´t really understand what went wrong before... SU from chainfire works perfectly! It´s now Rooted! And yes, the tuturials are idiot proof!
There´s something that´s bothering my mind... I can´t unistall some trash that cames with the 4.3 version using titanium backup, because he can´t find the apk files...! I could do it with the 4.2.2 version, but not with this one. I'm using the deoxed version.
Does anyone has the same problems?

[Q] Lost Root after OTA update. How to properly re-root without messing the system?

Hello everyone,
I noticed that this is a common problem and I realize just not that I shouldn't have just updated without informing myself.
Anyway, I checked and the root seems to be gone (checked with Root Checker, although the SU app is still there [but not working]).
I checked the fastbook and it says 'unlocked', which is good, I don't have to lose data.
How do I re-root properly?
I am using OS X at the moment and I have access to adb but, if needed, I can access a Windows computer again and use Nexus Root Toolkit again (that's what I used the first time I rooted).
I have CWM-SuperSU-v0.98.zip and recovery-clockwork-6.0.1.9-manta.img.
I checked the bootloader and it says 'no command' but it still has:
- reboot system now
- apply update from ADB
- wipe data...
- wipe cache...
Thanks in advance for any help
First thing - Nearly always you will lose root after applying an OTA - at least lately so that's not really a big deal.
Second - Get and always use the Latest version of root zip from chainfire: http://download.chainfire.eu/370/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.80.zip
Or you can also just apply SuperSU from google play and you will prompted to reboot to update binaries etc. after you apply the OTA.
His blog on latest version: https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/QhrEdeJ3nqQ
I got the same problem.
I solved it by just by downgrading and upgrading back to the latest version of Cyanogenmod.
lg Darcade
I have the same problem...
I have the same problem, I have installed the 4.4.3 OTA and now SuperSU stopped working.
Any advice?
Easily got my root back using Wugfresh toolkit.
Only the paid for version of SuperSU - "Pro" will attempt to keep root after an OTA update. It worked perfectly for me on a 5, 7 and 10.
[Lemmy] said:
I have the same problem, I have installed the 4.4.3 OTA and now SuperSU stopped working.
Any advice?
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Don`t use toolkits, just boot into TWRP in fastboot and reflash the latest superSU.zip and you`re rooted.
gee2012 said:
Don`t use toolkits, just boot into TWRP in fastboot and reflash the latest superSU.zip and you`re rooted.
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thats what I did by now, just with CWM instead of TWRP.
[Lemmy] said:
thats what I did by now, just with CWM instead of TWRP.
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Well done mate , toolkits suck and you have no control over them. Flashing with adb gives you full control and you learn something
gee2012 said:
Well done mate , toolkits suck and you have no control over them. Flashing with adb gives you full control and you learn something
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...after having to go through this over and over again with every single update I'm starting to think that having root is definitely not worth the pain.
If you switch to TWRP using its built in SuperSU install makes re-rooting a breeze.
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