Why less options for WP apps? - Windows Phone 8 General

I'm currently an Android phone user. I have windows 8 on my PC. And I have watched so many WP7.5 and WP8 videos.
Simple question: Why same apps on windows phone don't have many options in the app settings?
I am not talking about "Color Pallete", or "custom ringtones". I do not want them, I can live without them. But still Android stock apps have more options compared to WP stock apps. For eg Gmail stock app gives options like " Sync inboxes and labels" to select labels to sync (only those labels which you want) , then "Signature"
Windows mail app on Windows 8 is very very basic. How is email app for WP8?
And is there this thing true in any sense that WP8 apps provide fewer options (may be app developers also following minimalistic approach from Microsoft).
Also those using WP7.5 or WP8, suppose you just turned on your WP8, and you didn't open email app. So if you get a new email, will the app notify you. I mean you didn't open email app, but will it keep checking my email in background? Is this possible for 3rd party email client apps?
Please provide answer, I want to buy WP8.

You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
The email app in wp7.5 is great. The email app in WP8 is also great. The email app in W8 sucks balls, although it is useful for quickly checking the email.
The email will be updated in background. It is called a background task. Don't worry, you won't lose anything over your android phone.

GMail is a special case - there are no "Labels" on any other E-Mail services so an E-Mail-client that is not GMail-only obviously doesn't have those.
Aside from that E-Mail checking in the background (and via Push) works without problems although this is only true for the system mail app. You would not be able to realize sync intervals < 30 minutes for alternative Apps - guess that is why there are none.

Yes, windows phone apps in general have a lot less options and functionality. The goal is simplicity at the sacrifice of functionality. I would say if you are looking for as many options and functions as possible, stick with Android.

mcosmin222 said:
You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
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I would not be so quick to suggest that users don't use features / options. If you're talking specifically about Gmail, maaaybe I can buy it. But I am a heavy business user, and I can tell you I customize many of my apps. Gmail is a bad example... Exchange email and the options for Exchange on Android would probably be a better one.
I prefer AOSP for it's size and simplicity from a GUI perspective, but I also download tons of apps I've found to be better than stock.
I considered a move to WP8, but in my opinion, WP8 just doesn't cut it from an app perspective on any level. I will take flexibility over simplicity any day of the week. I hope WP* matures to be a strong alternative to Android / Apple (I've never owned an apple product), but it just isn't there yet.

Simple answer: development is half-assed for WP.
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^ has the xda WP app improved any?
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Nope. After I bought this app, much like WP7, the development stopped.
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mcosmin222 said:
You do have more settings in android apps but do you really use them? the answer is...really no.
The email app in wp7.5 is great. The email app in WP8 is also great. The email app in W8 sucks balls, although it is useful for quickly checking the email.
The email will be updated in background. It is called a background task. Don't worry, you won't lose anything over your android phone.
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wait, losing options to view different folders and boxes -is- an issue. loosing the ability to sync which email addy, at different intervals -is- an issue. more settings (or more importantly, LOSING those settings) -is- definitely an issue. having the flexibility to decide what happens is what makes a smartphone, smart.

Dr.8820 said:
Nope. After I bought this app, much like WP7, the development stopped.
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Agreed. The Android version to this app is great, but the WP version is useless. The Board Express app for WP is much better. If app development really picks up, WP will take off in the eyes of consumers.
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Has board express improved any? Has it gained official tapatalk support?
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Does WP8 have good equaliser like DSP MANGER found in CM7 rooms on android?
I think DSP is the best Equalizer ever on any device or OS.
How do the Nokia Equaliser in WP8 compare with DSP on android?
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You shouldn't need an equaliser. No phone or MP3 should need one. You only need one to make up for bad headphones or lousy DAC.

trappxl said:
Agreed. The Android version to this app is great, but the WP version is useless. The Board Express app for WP is much better. If app development really picks up, WP will take off in the eyes of consumers.
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It's strange, because the XDA WP7 app is literally just the rebranded Board express. But the board express app is better and has significantly less bugs. From where I'm sitting, it looks like the person in charge of the XDA app doesn't actually need to do any coding, he just needs to push through updates from board express but hasn't bothered to. Or maybe board express doesn't give free updates, in which case their "package" is a joke.

They did the same thing with the android version. Copy of Tapatalk.
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gilesjuk said:
You shouldn't need an equaliser. No phone or MP3 should need one. You only need one to make up for bad headphones or lousy DAC.
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Does that mean "no" or "I don't know" ?

Apourv, the Nokia Equalizer on WP8 is decent. It is not as good in terms of versatility and options as DSP, mostly because of both the hardware and software restrictions. Still, it is a marked improvement over what was there is 7.5. Audio wise, WP8 is a better move forward...for example I don't need the volume as loud on the Lumia 810 as I did with the Focus S during commutes. Comparing Dolby to Dolby, what was found in the Lumia 810 is years ahead quality wise of the HTC Mozart. I don't claim to be an audiophile but the sound is cleaner and more natural. I think as much as some think it is a gimmick, walking into a store and listening to music on a HTC One device vs a HTC 8X should show you that WP8 is an audio improvement.
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The idea is to support the necessary functionality but not to add loads of crap on top of that. Many developers (myself included) belief that your App should be tailored to a specific use case and try to fullfill that as best as it can.
Setting sync intervals for every account is of course possible and of course you can select subfolders to be synced (although it gets tricky to unselect them later). Also you can directly pin subfolder to your start screen if you e.g. have one that contains Very High Priroity E-Mails. And of course E-Mail checks in the background for the system App.
In the end the core functionalities reguarly are there but some add-ons or more complicated settings are often removed and replaced with an often reasonable default.

On my phone, I often download web pages on my PC and transfer them to my SD card so I can read them later on my phone on the go.
On WP8 there's no file explorer. Also no alternate browser like Opera, so Absolutely No possibility of that on WP8.
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Apourv said:
On my phone, I often download web pages on my PC and transfer them to my SD card so I can read them later on my phone on the go.
On WP8 there's no file explorer. Also no alternate browser like Opera, so Absolutely No possibility of that on WP8.
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Basically, everything you did manually can be done some other way on WP8. A little bit of research goes a long way... There are many services that do what you just described; get a pocket (formerly read it later) account. Get an app for it. Done.
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New To Android: a couple of questions.

I have been a WinMo and iOS user for quite some time (having a particular crush on HTC), but have decided to get my feet wet with Android. Let me state, outside of the GPS and Compass nonsense... I am fairly impressed with samsung's offering. The reception issue for me, seems to be more of a reporting issue... as I have shown zero bars will little drop-off in either 3g performance or in-call performance (so far). Anyway I have a few questions for the community at large:
1. What are some good reference points to do some reading regarding Android SDK, ADB and basic tool-chain command and implementation?
2. What is web browsers do users of android recommend?
3. What email app do people find the best for managing Yahoo, corp pop3 and gmail accounts (rather than having multiple apps)
4. Is there a preferred media player
5. Finally, for task mgmt/killing what do people use.
Thanks you in advance and its great to be back in the XDA community!!!
I think you got the wrong section >.>
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I think you got the wrong section >.>
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how? there is no Q&A section.
1. The Nexus One section has some great Dev support for this. Though beware not everything is exactly the same.
2. The Default one is great, even better on Froyo, Opera is also good and Dolphin too. Its just a matter of preference.
3. I use the default gmail app (but i only have a gmail account not yahoo or hotmail), just search through the market and see which one fits you best. Email is pretty generic and there are probably a lot of them to chose from.
4. Cubed seems to be the most popular media player
5. They all do the same thing, just a few differences, my advice is to not mess with task killers, android automanages them and does not need the user to manually kill them. Especially with a 1ghz hummingbird
1. Having used CyanogenMod on my G1 before upgrading to the Vibrant, I recommend the CyanogenMod Wiki as a thorough and organized source for the type of information you're looking for. Just keep in mind that a lot of info there is also CyanogenMod-specific and there is not as of yet a version that runs on the Vibrant (though work has begun on one).
2. I am really impressed with Opera Mini 5.1. It is way better than the previous beta version, and I am currently using it as my default browser.
3. I can't answer that since I only have Gmail set up on my phone. That's my primary account and the one I use 99% of the time.
4. The stock players on the Vibrant are really good compared to the stock Android versions. Unless you're looking for some sort of specific functionality, I would recommend staying with those.
5. I used to use Advanced Task Manager on my G1, but the more I learned about how Android actually handles apps, the more I realized just how unnecessary task managers/killers are, especially on a high-end phone like the Vibrant.
Blueman101 said:
how? there is no Q&A section.
1. The Nexus One section has some great Dev support for this. Though beware not everything is exactly the same.
2. The Default one is great, even better on Froyo, Opera is also good and Dolphin too. Its just a matter of preference.
3. I use the default gmail app (but i only have a gmail account not yahoo or hotmail), just search through the market and see which one fits you best. Email is pretty generic and there are probably a lot of them to chose from.
4. Cubed seems to be the most popular media player
5. They all do the same thing, just a few differences, my advice is to not mess with task killers, android automanages them and does not need the user to manually kill them. Especially with a 1ghz hummingbird
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Mr_Tricorder said:
1. Having used CyanogenMod on my G1 before upgrading to the Vibrant, I recommend the CyanogenMod Wiki as a thorough and organized source for the type of information you're looking for. Just keep in mind that a lot of info there is also CyanogenMod-specific and there is not as of yet a version that runs on the Vibrant (though work has begun on one).
2. I am really impressed with Opera Mini 5.1. It is way better than the previous beta version, and I am currently using it as my default browser.
3. I can't answer that since I only have Gmail set up on my phone. That's my primary account and the one I use 99% of the time.
4. The stock players on the Vibrant are really good compared to the stock Android versions. Unless you're looking for some sort of specific functionality, I would recommend staying with those.
5. I used to use Advanced Task Manager on my G1, but the more I learned about how Android actually handles apps, the more I realized just how unnecessary task managers/killers are, especially on a high-end phone like the Vibrant.
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Muchas Gracias guys.
I have to say... after toying around a bit, I am ready to root this bad boy and do some poking about. Not that I am entirely surprised (c'mon its google) but android seems to be a very robust and fleshed out mobile operating system. Especially for one so young. WinPho 7 is gonna have to be a "game-changer" to catch up to Googs and cupertino. (though I am pulling for MS, ... I know, fanboi)
1. I would say probably the best repository for all things android would be to go to the developer section at: http://developer.android.com/index.html
It's documented by Google, Has a dev guide and much more.
2. I've been using Dolphin since I first got my G1 a year and half ago. It suites me well. Everyone's been talking about this Opera Mini being so hyped I may have to try it.
3. I use standard GMail App but I'm curious to know how to sync it with other email accounts I have through Google Labs.
4. I stick with the default or any apps such as Grooveshark / Pandora.
5. I was using Advanced Task Killer. I'd love to know exactly why/how Android handles apps which makes task killing unnecessary as one had pointed out.
;p Still a noob too.
phragg said:
5. I was using Advanced Task Killer. I'd love to know exactly why/how Android handles apps which makes task killing unnecessary as one had pointed out.
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By setting priorities for an app, the one currently running on the screen is the highest, the longer an app has stayed cached without being used the lower it gets. Android will remove the apps starting with the lowest priority whenever more memory is needed.
Are priorities set by accordance to how you use that specific app?
phragg said:
Are priorities set by accordance to how you use that specific app?
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not really how, more when.
The g1 thread for development has a great sticky for adb. I would just root (2 minutes if your time) and download Root Explorer from the market. Just way too easy.
I would get adfree once you root to disable app ads.
Mixzing us a great media player.
Don't use a task killer. It will hamper performance. I promise.
I only use gmail, but k9 is really good and touchdown is the best for Exchange, hands down.

Want to try wm7

I'm an android guy but was thinking about picking up a wm7 phone, more than likely a samsung focus due to the samoled screen. Are they a good phone or I should ask, is it a good os. I just want something different than typical android, its basically, once you've owned one they are pretty much all the same. Is wm7 the same. I guess I could move from 1 to the other as I get bored. Is there any customizing for wm7 phones?
Thanks
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For the starter, it is WP7, not WM7. Windows Mobile is dead. Windows Phone is what it is called now. Go to any AT&T store and play with it. Most stores have live phones (not dummy units) you can play with.
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For the starter, it is WP7, not WM7. Windows Mobile is dead. Windows Phone is what it is called now. Go to any AT&T store and play with it. Most stores have live phones (not dummy units) you can play with.
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This.
Also, all WP7 seem to be the same except for hardware. Android has different skins based on manufacturers.
WP7
I have a WP7 and think it is the most user friendly smart phone out there.
Yes they all have to have the same starting user interface, but that is where it changes because it becomes very personalized as soon as you start to add your acounts to it and have the live tiles update with your information.
When the Mango update comes out it will change things for the better again.
I also like that i can use my WP7 to login and administrer my microsoft home server 2011. I can also stream music, pictures and video's from the server to my phone. Pretty cool function.
IMHO

BlueStacks brings 400,000 Android apps to Windows 8

BlueStracks is gonna bring all android apps to Windows 8. This is very exciting news. I would buy a Windows 8 tablet if the apps works as good as they work on Android.
Source
Installed the beta on my Lenovo touchscreen netbook. I installed google maps and it runs well but it won't recognize the Bluetooth GPS receiver so won't navigate hoping when they release the pro version this feature will work
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I'll be excited to see how this goes. Android app library + Metro UI= YES PLEASE
This kind of hackability is gonna make x86 Windows on a tablet *the* best choice for power users in the coming years...
Bluestack is nothing new, nothing fancy and nothing impressible. It is way slow (even for a i7) and it uses a lot of resources. They promised that they will fix those bugs but apparently the only work that they do was to make it a "windows 8 exclusive". meh.
who wants to use ugly ****ty phone apps on windows 8?
o2neouzr said:
who wants to use ugly ****ty phone apps on windows 8?
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Ha.... Considering windows 8 aps are meant to work across multiple devices I would assume a lot of people want it. WP7 apps will work on win 8 pcs and Xbox 360's and vise versa
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Considering windows 8 aps are meant to work across multiple devices I would assume a lot of people want it.
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As long as you are using the WinRT Just another way to lock down things
shoputer said:
As long as you are using the WinRT Just another way to lock down things
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Android does this as well more or less you just won't find anyone using android as the OS on their PC. So here's where MS has a leg up. I'd more say it's a smart way of doing business... What company wouldn't want to make just ONE app that'll work across different types of devices
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hey... i test drove bluestacks oover thanksgiving and had a code and allthat and ran every app i had over the course of two hours then forgot aboout it.
now i cant seem to get a code... im signed up for the beta and all that but wheres the code?
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Now we've just got to successfully emulate Windows 7/8 and iOS on Android. iEmu would've been great but thats discontinued now
Yeah I love BlueStacks, it's really well made. Can't wait for the beta to come out
Just saw that beta got released. Anyone know what information they access to provide this? Google search listed terms and privacy links for their official website but clicking them just brought me to their homepage to download the application. Just wanted to do some reading before I try it out
Edit: site is overloaded which is why some parts such as privacy and terms pages are not accessible. Got the information that they'll be replaced with light versions for now. Also if anyone's interested as to how they work out what apps are on your device, they just pull the installed application list from your device. They don't look at or connect through the Google account to get the list from the Google play store. Not trying to be awkward, I was just enquiring what privacy or information I have to give up in order to use this beta service (which is free to use, so I was just looking for a catch) and how they access information. Seems okay to me now .
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Yup, just saw this news this morning and i was pretty excited to try angry birds and angry birds space on my PC!!!!! I like the fact that most apps work not just the games and entertainment ones. Hopefully soon the WP8 merges with windows 8 and then we have one Marketplace for all devices
I'm definitely going to have to install Windows 8 on the MBP through VMware and then try this application out. Talk about super cool!
I dont think that bluestacks will support ALL android Apps, for example, is hard to give support to 3d games or AR apps...
bluestacks is slow and clunky.
tested on series7 samsung slate.
I'd totally get a Windows tablet if it could run all the Android apps as well as W8, with that and a keyboard dock I could replace my current Android tab & laptop.
now this is cool
What is blue stack???
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change from iphone 4s to Nexus 4?

hi guys i'm a new member to this community and i'm ready to change from apple and IOS to android which i have never use..
i have find to sell my iphone and with that money to buy the nexus 4. During the last 3 weeks i have read and view many reviews about the nexus 4 and i believe it's a great phone !
what do you think will be the difficulties that i will face during this transition between the two different softwares??
is finally the nexus 4 a better phone than the iphone 4s?
thanks in advance for your answers!!
If your a techie, you shouldn't have any problems and you should be able to guide yourself through Android. Everything you need is in the Notification Drawer! You might have a hard time adjusting to no physical home button, but you'll get used to it. Music is just drag and drop, or it would be worth it to download Google Play Music on your computer and sync your music in the cloud. Just explore the phone the day you get it. I personally like the overall look and feel of Android more than iOS. Welcome to the best Android experience out there, a Nexus 4!!!
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Gorjira said:
If your a techie, you shouldn't have any problems and you should be able to guide yourself through Android. Everything you need is in the Notification Drawer! You might have a hard time adjusting to no physical home button, but you'll get used to it. Music is just drag and drop, or it would be worth it to download Google Play Music on your computer and sync your music in the cloud. Just explore the phone the day you get it. I personally like the overall look and feel of Android more than iOS. Welcome to the best Android experience out there, a Nexus 4!!!
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thanks for your answer!!!
Like most iPhone users, you're going to spend weeks posting threads asking how to exactly replicate iPhone functionality before realizing that the Android experience is different and you just need to learn new ways of working.
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stefanos7 said:
hi guys i'm a new member to this community and i'm ready to change from apple and IOS to android which i have never use..
i have find to sell my iphone and with that money to buy the nexus 4. During the last 3 weeks i have read and view many reviews about the nexus 4 and i believe it's a great phone !
what do you think will be the difficulties that i will face during this transition between the two different softwares??
is finally the nexus 4 a better phone than the iphone 4s?
thanks in advance for your answers!!
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Any phone is better than an iPhone.
Just kidding, but seriously. don't get me wrong, iPhones are good phones, they really are. People get them cause they like them, I get androids because I like them. Spec wise, Nexus 4 blows iPhones away. IMO, Nexus 4's are way better than any of the iPhones out right now. I talked to my friends who went from iPhones to Androids, and they said the only difficulty they had was getting used to how the OS is. iPhones are simple, and straight forward. Theres not much you can change about an iPhone unless you jailbreak it. Androids are customizable right out of the box.Only problem you MIGHT face is getting used to android.
@mrjoeltan: I agree with you, just want to add: I feel that android, starting jelly bean, doesn't require any customization. Let me explain.
For the longest time, people compared android to iOS this way: iOS you can't customize, but it works pretty amazingly right out of the box. Android, on the other hand, can be customized to incredible levels; however, right out of the box it is not a great experience. And up till jelly bean, I agreed with this claim.
What I think changed in the last half year is that now android (jelly bean, so Nexus 4 for sure) is as amazing out of the box as iOS, with the added ability to customize the sh*t out of it if you want to.
To not be completely off topic:
There will be very few things you need to "learn" during transition. I think the largest one is the way system handles settings of notifications and alerts: b/c iOS uses only its own push notifications, all sound settings for all apps are done in the "settings" app. Android is a bit different- the apps keep a service running in background for themselves, and so you have to edit sound/alert settings in the apps themselves. The reward for this is that apps can have more advanced notifications with popup menus, repeated alerts etc. They will all appear in your notification drawer, but they can do more.
Music is simple drag-and-drop.
Other difference is handling of files. PDFs will first download, only then you can click on them to view them. They will be stored in the "Download" folder, accessible either via the "Downloads" app or via file manager of your choice (I recommend installing one).
If you have more apps that allow opening some file (ie, you have Adobe Reader and the built-in quickoffice viewer), when you click on a PDF (or some other supported file, even link), you will have a window allowing you to choose what program should open the given file. (don't worry, you can set defaults and not worry about it again)
I suggest you set all google maps links to default to the google maps app, not the browser. Similarly, set all youtube links to go to the youtube app, not the browser.
Hope I helped!
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@mrjoeltan: I agree with you, just want to add: I feel that android, starting jelly bean, doesn't require any customization. Let me explain.
For the longest time, people compared android to iOS this way: iOS you can't customize, but it works pretty amazingly right out of the box. Android, on the other hand, can be customized to incredible levels; however, right out of the box it is not a great experience. And up till jelly bean, I agreed with this claim.
What I think changed in the last half year is that now android (jelly bean, so Nexus 4 for sure) is as amazing out of the box as iOS, with the added ability to customize the sh*t out of it if you want to.
To not be completely off topic:
There will be very few things you need to "learn" during transition. I think the largest one is the way system handles settings of notifications and alerts: b/c iOS uses only its own push notifications, all sound settings for all apps are done in the "settings" app. Android is a bit different- the apps keep a service running in background for themselves, and so you have to edit sound/alert settings in the apps themselves. The reward for this is that apps can have more advanced notifications with popup menus, repeated alerts etc. They will all appear in your notification drawer, but they can do more.
Music is simple drag-and-drop.
Other difference is handling of files. PDFs will first download, only then you can click on them to view them. They will be stored in the "Download" folder, accessible either via the "Downloads" app or via file manager of your choice (I recommend installing one).
If you have more apps that allow opening some file (ie, you have Adobe Reader and the built-in quickoffice viewer), when you click on a PDF (or some other supported file, even link), you will have a window allowing you to choose what program should open the given file. (don't worry, you can set defaults and not worry about it again)
I suggest you set all google maps links to default to the google maps app, not the browser. Similarly, set all youtube links to go to the youtube app, not the browser.
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thank you all for your help!!
I have just ordered the 16 gb with the official bumper!!
i will return with my first impressions as soon as I have it in my hands!
Welcome to the world of Android. You will really enjoy the Nexus 4. The phone is smooth as butter and the customization is fantastic. I actually replaced the standard launcher with Nova Prime launcher as it offers even more customization than the standard launcher.
if you have your iphone jailbroken, it will be easier to port to Android, have fun..
Definitely get back and let us know if you have any questions - I just held my boyfriend's hand through his iPhone to Nexus 4 transition (I give great Valentines presents!), so I'm sure some of your questions will either pop up for him or already have.
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if you have your iphone jailbroken, it will be easier to port to Android, have fun..
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I have jailbroken it in the past once but now my iphone is without
qocarekeri said:
Definitely get back and let us know if you have any questions - I just held my boyfriend's hand through his iPhone to Nexus 4 transition (I give great Valentines presents!), so I'm sure some of your questions will either pop up for him or already have.
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thank you (great gift!!)
I'm sure about that
how does your boyfriend finally feel with your gift??
does he miss the iphone?
You wont regret buying and android device like the nexus 4.
IMO android is much more flexible customisable and powerful than iOS. The iOS is soo God darn easy to use because there isn't much to do in it. It has a homescreen and... Well that's pretty much it!
But android 4.0+ combines ease of use and great functionality. Once you switch to android and start using all of its features, you'll never go back.
Oh and BTW, I think the Nexus 4 looks damn sexy, looks better than an iPhone.
stefanos7 said:
I have jailbroken it in the past once but now my iphone is without
thank you (great gift!!)
I'm sure about that
how does your boyfriend finally feel with your gift??
does he miss the iphone?
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There was an adjustment period for him - how do I get X, where can I find apps, where is X setting.
He was a little pouty at the beginning of the process, but after a month or so, he's up and running and very happy. The main thing that he missed was a collection settings that covered all apps.
-Keri
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There was an adjustment period for him - how do I get X, where can I find apps, where is X setting.
He was a little pouty at the beginning of the process, but after a month or so, he's up and running and very happy. The main thing that he missed was a collection settings that covered all apps.
-Keri
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Yeah I can see how that could be a problem. However I went the other way (Android to an iPad) and was greatly dissatisfied with the super easy and noob setting of iOS.
On topic, I would suggest OP to use the phone for a couple months, before venturing into any customization options (rooting, kernels, ROMs, launchers etc). Getting used to Android could take you a while but once you get used to it your production will be greatly improved.
wngmv said:
On topic, I would suggest OP to use the phone for a couple months, before venturing into any customization options (rooting, kernels, ROMs, launchers etc). Getting used to Android could take you a while but once you get used to it your production will be greatly improved.
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And when you decide to do so, follow the link in my signature. Do not use a toolkit!
Good luck with it all, you'll love it! Let us know if you need any help. :thumbup:
wngmv said:
Yeah I can see how that could be a problem. However I went the other way (Android to an iPad) and was greatly dissatisfied with the super easy and noob setting of iOS.
On topic, I would suggest OP to use the phone for a couple months, before venturing into any customization options (rooting, kernels, ROMs, launchers etc). Getting used to Android could take you a while but once you get used to it your production will be greatly improved.
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Yeah, I used an iPad recently and I actually found it very counter-intuitive having all of the individual app settings under the general settings app. I wanted to sign out of the email app for example but I genuinely could not find a way to do it from within the app itself, and ended up having to go to settings then manage accounts or something similar. In Android I just hit menu in any app I'm using and I can be certain that there will be some sort of settings or options button, which to me seems much more logical since if I want to change an app setting the likelihood is that I'm using that app already. Obviously the opposite will apply for users moving from iOS to Android, but I think I'm just so used to Android now that iOS simply doesn't work for me.
Vangelis13 said:
And when you decide to do so, follow the link in my signature. Do not use a toolkit!
Good luck with it all, you'll love it! Let us know if you need any help. :thumbup:
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ok thanks a lot for your help i will follow your advice !!
however you could find a better avatar!! the red one!!!heheh
na sai kala!!

Native Android SDK vs PhoneGap/Cordova

Hi, just wanted to get your opinions of developing apps with the native Android SDK versus PhoneGap/Cordova.
I have coded an app using the Android SDK before, but I found the SDK to be a bit difficult to work with even though it is very powerful. I haven't tried making an app in PhoneGap/Cordova yet, but I'm a very experienced web developer so developing an app with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript sounds very enticing to me. Still I don't know the actual details to making an app with PhoneGap/Cordova though since I've yet to try it.
Besides the benefit of PhoneGap/Cordova being cross-platform, what are your thoughts on each one and which one do you prefer and why?
Isaac Lean said:
Hi, just wanted to get your opinions of developing apps with the native Android SDK versus PhoneGap/Cordova.
I have coded an app using the Android SDK before, but I found the SDK to be a bit difficult to work with even though it is very powerful. I haven't tried making an app in PhoneGap/Cordova yet, but I'm a very experienced web developer so developing an app with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript sounds very enticing to me. Still I don't know the actual details to making an app with PhoneGap/Cordova though since I've yet to try it.
Besides the benefit of PhoneGap/Cordova being cross-platform, what are your thoughts on each one and which one do you prefer and why?
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My personal opinion is that any web app thats on play/app stores should have to have some logo or something to say thats what they are. From a user point there is no comparison really, like comparing a chrome/web app on PC to a native win/linux app, they don't really compare and I personally as a user have yet to see web apps impress. However having said that there is always variance to any argument, I think here it depends on context. So for my app Smart Messenger, there is zero chance as a web app, or if it were possible the experience would be way too bad for the user. However consider a simple listings app that just has a few screens, maybe not as bad. Dont get me wrong, still think web apps should come with a sticker so the user knows not to download, but the experience would fall a shorter distance to native based on complexity/context.
Just my thoughts
It depends on the requirements of the app: if you need to build functionally simple app quickly and spread it across the platforms, then it's better to use hybrid/web app. If you need sophisticated functionality (e.g. games), which has to heavily utilize mobile device's facilities (hardware/software) then the best bet would be to use Android SDK.
surlac said:
It depends on the requirements of the app: if you need to build functionally simple app quickly and spread it across the platforms, then it's better to use hybrid/web app. If you need sophisticated functionality (e.g. games), which has to heavily utilize mobile device's facilities (hardware/software) then the best bet would be to use Android SDK.
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erm not just games, any app that you want fluid and responsive that can't be just a html/php site through a browser .... btw I speak from a user point here, not just a dev. I have yet to find a web app that I would even consider keeping on the phone/tablet... I prefer to use a browser to access the info, not some fakey thing.
Performance is a big factor. If it's a simple app you may sure as well go with Phonegap etc. but for an advanced, more complex app native is always the best options as it will provide much better performance than a Phonegap app.
rootRootRoute said:
Performance is a big factor. If it's a simple app you may sure as well go with Phonegap etc. but for an advanced, more complex app native is always the best options as it will provide much better performance than a Phonegap app.
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I strongly agree here... Ive used both and Phonegap lacks alot in Performance on Android (not on iOS).
If you want a a cross platform frameworks consider Xamarin (C#)
Code:
http://xamarin.com
NobleDroid said:
I strongly agree here... Ive used both and Phonegap lacks alot in Performance on Android (not on iOS).
If you want a a cross platform frameworks consider Xamarin (C#)
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I'm using phonegap for my app it works great on android too.
Try using the ionic framework, it is a game changer.
khashayarp said:
I'm using phonegap for my app it works great on android too.
Try using the ionic framework, it is a game changer.
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As both a developer and user I have yet to see a web app that I would even consider leaving on my phone once I obviously see it's just a local website I have often asked for examples of really good web apps and never seen a single one...
Would it be possible to check out yours ?
Just interested... cheers
deanwray said:
As both a developer and user I have yet to see a web app that I would even consider leaving on my phone once I obviously see it's just a local website I have often asked for examples of really good web apps and never seen a single one...
Would it be possible to check out yours ?
Just interested... cheers
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I have posted it on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-introducing-palm-note-awesome-note-t2861937)
khashayarp said:
Try using the ionic framework, it is a game changer.
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If we're talking about performance, how Ionic can make a difference if it has been built on top of Cordova (like Phonegap)?

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