Leaving Unlimited LTE - Going Prepaid Nexus 4? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Who else is leaving Verizon and the comfort of Unlimited Data - LTE no less - and going prepaid?
I'm 99% certain I'm doing this. I'm more worried about coverage in the pre paid plans then about leaving Verizon. Good riddance! But still scary!
Who else is going through this and what plan are you going to try?
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Depends on which prepaid you are going for. I left my unlimited data since I could save a hell lot more money with prepaid. (around 40 dollars a month)

I abandoned my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (and ate the ETF) for a Play Store Galaxy Nexus and a Straight Talk (AT&T) prepaid plan in May. I haven't looked back since. Got all the updates and cut my bill in half. Good things with prepaid is you dont have to commit. I say try out AT&T and T-Mo based prepaid plans in your area and see if you'll be happy with the service. When the Nexus 4 is released, all I need to do is put my SIM card in it...done.

I'm leaving sprint with their unlimited data
.I work at a t mobile retailer and will probably use T-Mobile prepaid and get the phone..
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You should really make sure what type of coverage/data speeds you'll be getting on T-Mobile or AT&Ts networks before you make the jump. We all want the N4, but unfortunately, it's just not going to be viable for some people.
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I have a Straight Talk ATT Sim coming as well as T-Mobile Prepaid. I will try both and see. I only have the coverage maps to go by and a few friends. I live in Spokane Washington so if anyone knows about that area let me know!
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Go t mobile that way you get hspa 42
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emuneee said:
I abandoned my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (and ate the ETF) for a Play Store Galaxy Nexus and a Straight Talk (AT&T) prepaid plan in May. I haven't looked back since. Got all the updates and cut my bill in half. Good things with prepaid is you dont have to commit. I say try out AT&T and T-Mo based prepaid plans in your area and see if you'll be happy with the service. When the Nexus 4 is released, all I need to do is put my SIM card in it...done.
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I did this same thing about three months ago. Between me and my wife we are saving about $100 per month for smart phone service. I wont argue that Verizon is the king as far as coverage goes but they are just too proud of their services and they are punishing long term loyal customers which I won't stand for.
I would say we are receiving about 90% of other service we had with Verizon for about half the cost. It was a no brainer for me. Even with the etf, I'm already saving money!

Eddog4DROID said:
Who else is leaving Verizon and the comfort of Unlimited Data - LTE no less - and going prepaid?
I'm 99% certain I'm doing this. I'm more worried about coverage in the pre paid plans then about leaving Verizon. Good riddance! But still scary!
Who else is going through this and what plan are you going to try?
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Not going pre paid but going to t-mobile unlimited.

Straight Talk looks good but I keep hearing about strict data policies. I use like 1 gig a month usually. Its the 100 MB a day that seems limiting. Occasionally, I need that.
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Eddog4DROID said:
Straight Talk looks good but I keep hearing about strict data policies. I use like 1 gig a month usually. Its the 100 MB a day that seems limiting. Occasionally, I need that.
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Its more like 2gb a month. I don't put much stock in the 100mb a day thing because I've busted that bunches of times with no reprocussions. YMMV.
If data is a concern, get a T-Mobile sim if their coverage is good in your area. I read all the time about people using 5-7gb a month without being throttled.

I actually have a T Mobile sim coming as well. That 30 dollar plan looks awesome. I just don't know if I can do 100 minutes and how their coverage is.
I keep reading that pre paid plans do not have roaming either, does anyone know what that actually means? For example, what if I leave my state and I go to another city that has good coverage with the same prepaid carrier is that considered roaming?
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Eddog4DROID said:
Who else is leaving Verizon and the comfort of Unlimited Data - LTE no less - and going prepaid?
I'm 99% certain I'm doing this. I'm more worried about coverage in the pre paid plans then about leaving Verizon. Good riddance! But still scary!
Who else is going through this and what plan are you going to try?
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I am doing this. I have a plan for me and the wife. My contract is up in January so ill be buying a Nexus 4 in late december to test it out/port my number before my contract ends effective 2/2. If all is good my wife will be making the transition as well. Right now we pay $150 for our plan through Verizon for 700/unlmtd/unlmtd. We only use like 100 minutes a month so im paying for the data/messaging... all of which I cant use data inside my home, so its Wifi only, and messaging at home hardly works anyways... wifey stays home with the baby and only uses like 100mb a month on the data package.......
All said and done I cannot believe I didnt make this switch earlier. Ill be saving over $900 this year alone incl the cost of the devices. Cant beat that..
That said - Anyone interested in a Galaxy Nexus in Mint condition (I mean mint.. its a Refurb that just got sent to me last week and rebuilt 2 weeks ago, not a knick or scratch) or a RAZR Black 16gb

Anyone in SE Michigan using T-Mobile $30 plan? Checking the coverage map looks very sketchy once you get off the e-ways.
AT&T used currently, so Straight Talk is an option, but use hardly any minutes so the T-Mobile plan looks enticing, but do travel a bit to the UP and Minnesota which looks like it would be hit or miss on coverage compared to AT&T/Straight Talk.

T-Mobile's HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE. I wish T-Mobile had the coverage Verizon did though.

UnlockedNand said:
T-Mobile's HSPA+ is faster than Verizon LTE. I wish T-Mobile had the coverage Verizon did though.
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H+ is such a sketchy network compared to LTE though. Very inconsistent and can be literally polar opposites in terms of data speeds in one spot to ten feet away. From my parking spot at work to the door I go from 8down to 1down with no obstructions. Same can be said in my house. With an LTE phone I don't see those kinds of fluctuations.

Eddog4DROID said:
I actually have a T Mobile sim coming as well. That 30 dollar plan looks awesome. I just don't know if I can do 100 minutes and how their coverage is.
I keep reading that pre paid plans do not have roaming either, does anyone know what that actually means? For example, what if I leave my state and I go to another city that has good coverage with the same prepaid carrier is that considered roaming?
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No that's not considered roaming. I used my gnex on straight talk at&t & postpaid t-mobile. Here is an example of roaming: when I go upstate, there is literally no tmo coverage. In those areas (about 3 hrs north of westchester county in ny), my postpaid tmo account will roam onto at&t. At that moment, I am a tmo customer roaming onto at&t. If I were on tmo prepaid, I would not get any service at all. I would not roam onto at&t. However, on my straight talk at&t sim, I had service up there. Data speeds are slower that tmo, but there at&t has a bigger footprint.
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emuneee said:
I abandoned my Verizon Galaxy Nexus (and ate the ETF) for a Play Store Galaxy Nexus and a Straight Talk (AT&T) prepaid plan in May. I haven't looked back since. Got all the updates and cut my bill in half. Good things with prepaid is you dont have to commit. I say try out AT&T and T-Mo based prepaid plans in your area and see if you'll be happy with the service. When the Nexus 4 is released, all I need to do is put my SIM card in it...done.
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You will need a new Sim, or have to cut your old one....
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Eddog4DROID said:
Who else is leaving Verizon and the comfort of Unlimited Data - LTE no less - and going prepaid?
I'm 99% certain I'm doing this. I'm more worried about coverage in the pre paid plans then about leaving Verizon. Good riddance! But still scary!
Who else is going through this and what plan are you going to try?
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I did just this about two weeks ago. I went with tmobile $50 unlimited and cut my bill in half. I'm really sorry I didn't do it sooner to be honest. I paid my ETF, but that's ok because I'll make it up in like 3 months of having a lower bill. It was worth it to me, because verizon's anti-consumer nonsense was really starting to bother me, and their customer service has never been great in my experience.
Coverage with tmobile has actually been pretty good in Indianapolis. However, I'm currently on an Iphone 4 and can only get edge speeds as the network farm isnt done in my area. I really like the iphone a lot, considerably better than my incredible 2, though I will probably grab a nexus 4 when it comes out, if only for variety. It's nice being able to pop a sim card out of one phone and into another without the hassle of dealing with locked up, overpriced phones.
Do it, but you might want to think about keeping a spare phone around in case you have to have your nexus 4 repaired. an older android im sure would be fine, assuming it's a model with decent build quality that can stand the test of time.

cbutt said:
No that's not considered roaming. I used my gnex on straight talk at&t & postpaid t-mobile. Here is an example of roaming: when I go upstate, there is literally no tmo coverage. In those areas (about 3 hrs north of westchester county in ny), my postpaid tmo account will roam onto at&t. At that moment, I am a tmo customer roaming onto at&t. If I were on tmo prepaid, I would not get any service at all. I would not roam onto at&t. However, on my straight talk at&t sim, I had service up there. Data speeds are slower that tmo, but there at&t has a bigger footprint.
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Tmo prepaid has voice/text roaming, just not data roaming.
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TMOBILE vs SPRINT

Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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Thinking of jumping ship to tmobile since 4G has never been offered in my area for Sprint. Also the pricing is a little better than Sprint? However outside of my area service is non-existent unless I force my phone into roaming? I like the data plan Sprint has but believe Sprint will change there data plan in the coming months. With that I will be grandfathered in until my contract ends. So if someone could tell me if they have trouble with data and signal or if it is great, or what they have to do get signal since tmobile is gsm instead of cdma?
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
Evo_Shift said:
Do you mean they have a better price but for less services? Like not having unlimited texting or something? I thought Sprint had the best price.
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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What?!?!
I'm not sure what you are asking. Not knowing where you are at, generally speaking if you have good sprint signal you would have good t-mobile signal. If you do not have good sprint signal, you may have just as poor t-mobile signal as their tower footprints are similar. If you live out from a city or something, AT&T or most especially Verizon have much larger footprints.
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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I believe the pricing is very similar, but you get speed cut back on data once you go over the limit of your specific plan. Sprint data on thier network is not throttled or limited.
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Thanks for your info. It will not bother too much since I dont use over 2 GB a month.
BrianDigital said:
Well TMobile post paid plans are better, I think for 45 dollars you get, one hundred mins, unlimited texts, and five gbs of data
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T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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tycruickshank said:
T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
tycruickshank said:
T-Mobile pre paid is 30 dollars for this same plan. Just throwing that out there. That's what I'm using right now. Unlimited data but it gets throttled at 5gb
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That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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Sprint and Tmobile have very good signal in my area. However No 4G for Sprint, but 4G for Tmobile is here. Once you leave my city since I travel outside it for work alot the signal fades. I then use "ROAM Control" to force into to roam mode. I need to know is there a way to force Roaming on the Nexus S or any other phone on the TMobile network?
US Cellular is very good in the rural areas but it is CDMA and the pricing is quite a bit higher.
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Sprint is CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM, the phones are not interchangable on each other's network. You would have to get a GSM phone, and it would have to have T-Mobile specific frequencies for HSPDA+ (Their "4G" which is 1700mhz, different that AT&T's 1900mhz) in order to get 4G speeds.
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What are the limitations of your plan, and the cost outright for the phone?
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BrianDigital said:
That's what I meant do you have any trouble getting phones to work, or is it as simple as popping the Sim in, I'm really thinking about jumping ship I'm getting sick of paying 80ISH dollars a month
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I bought my phone (i9020T) used for around 200, but you can still find new ones around on the internet for I think around 400-500 USD maybe cheaper if you can find a good deal. The i9023 (the SLCD screen) is usually cheaper. I found some online for around 300 - 350 USD. Both the i9023 and the i9020T will work with 3G on T-Mobile's network. The data speeds I get are quite good as well. Some places I'll get as much as 5 megs down but the norm is usually around 3 to 4 for me. There are no limitation with the plan really that I can think of. I mean the only thing is that you only get 100 minutes but I've bought Groove IP (VOIP app in the Play Store) so essentially I have unlimited minutes now as well. Only paying $30 a month.
All you have to do is get a T-Mobile prepaid sim from the website and pop it in the phone and you're good to go.
I did exact as user above, $30 and then Groove IP. For my location T-Mobile is vastly faster, but you have to check your location coverage. In big cities Sprint can be fast. Since their phone is CDMA they don't use SIM so their phones goes for slighty lower value. You can get Sprint Nexus S cheaper than GSM version.
Check here for some prepaid plans: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21604722&postcount=2
I hope this doesn't seem like an ass move but, but I have a Nexus S t-mobile for sale.
I can't wait my etc goes down to a hundred in a month, I'm debating just going galaxy nexus or HTC one x, either one that's for sale at best buy and use that buy back plan which my girl didbwith her new iPhone 4s she's been guarenteed 400 bucks before six months, it almost worth it to be a phone whore
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I like the Pre-Paid Montly plans in T-Mobile.
$30 100 mins/UL SMS/ 5GB 4G data Walmart and online?
$30 1500 min-SMS /30Mb
$50 UL min/UL SMS/ UL Data(1st 100 mb at 4G)
$60 UL /UL /UL Data (1st 2GB 4G)
I use the $50, You can change every month to any of the plans.
Tip :If you buy the Card in Calling Mart $100 goes for $95 no tax charged.
So if you pick the $50 it would be like paying around 44+Tax in a post paid (Yes $44 for an unlimited everything).
About Signal, I don't have problems, ATT is a little better(3G+) but much more expensive.
Now I don't like Sprint or Verizon because I like the flexibility of having a GSM unlocked phone.

Verizon doing away with unlimited data, forcing tiered data

Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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Wow, guess I will be sticking with my Xperia Play for quite some time. My fiance has a Razr, so our 4G unlimited needs are covered. If Verizon is doing crap like this then they need to understand they are not a "telephony" service anymore. All I need is an IP address assigned to me and let me pay $5-$10 per GB I use per line.
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Just read that this summer all current Verizon users who are grandfathered into unlimited 3G will be forced to switch to tiered shared data plans. Exact words were "Verizon will have no problem making money" off the plans. I have been grandfathered to unlimited data. And not that I use a lot what I don't like is that the price of data is about to get considerably more expensive and I for one am already extremely unhappy with vz and this just further makes Mr want to tell Verizon to shove it up their a$$ when my contract ends next January. Thoughts anyone?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
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You already know I have something to say
So far it claims that this wont effect 3g users until they upgrade to a 4g phone, I have an upgrade but I will not be using it EVER unless an xplay2 comes out ! Which could be never. But I had a feeling this would happen eventually. I seriously think the part about "making money off of data plans" is crap. They claim they want to push people into using more data, thats kinda crazy the actually claim this ya know. Like Gee thanks Verizon their basically saying " we cant wait to bank people on data plans"
I read about this.
They are doing away with unlimited, but they are introducing "shared data". I personally use about 200mb a month. So if they do 2GB for $30 SHARED (any phone and any tablet) then I'll be very happy.
I would prefer to use my smartphones without a data plan and only voice and wifi if I could do that.
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So if we just buy on ebay used phones and swap sim cards we shouldn't be affected? They said you will be forced to tier "upon upgrading". The best thing to do is wait a few weeks before this goes into effect and but the best 4g phone they have and that will get you two more years of unlimited lte
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I think that Verizon is going to find out that they could have made more money if they had kept unlimited data and raised the price of data by a few dollars. As of right now, they are forcing many users to lower their data plan and use less data because it is all they can afford. This means that they won't get much more money than before and the customer will get less data overall. Is that what they really want? If they want people to move over to tiered then they need to start updating their phones on time or even at all, and go out and get the best phones on their network. That way people will want to upgrade because the new phone is irresistible.
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This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
There's one word to explain my emotions right now about this: f*ck. I use over 2GB a month with PDANet and Barnacle Tether. I need mah dataaaaaa!!!!
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The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
Rogue Leader said:
This move has me thinking when some sort of Xperia Play 2 maybe comes out I will just buy an unlocked one and go on AT&T who is getting way better, as long as they support unlocked phones on what will be 4GLTE by then. Hopefully I can get an unsubsidized plan, for cheaper, and I can tell Big Red to suck a fattie, on principal.
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I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
crono141 said:
The only reason I'm still with verizon instead of, say, AT&T is because I've got unlimited data. I use AT&T uVerse for home internet, so I can get a wireless deal. If I'm going to be forced to pay for tiered data, then I'm going to go to the cheapest place that has it for the most data. Not sure if its AT&T or not, but I'm going to start looking.
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I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
216Monster said:
I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
216Monster said:
I have an unlocked r800a 4g that at&t said they would activate if I choose to leave Verizon (which they pushed me on while they had me on the phone )
I agree. Its been a thought of mine for awhile now I guess. I love my Play and wouldn't mind a 4g one and At&t really isn't that bad. Verizon isnt "exactly" being a loyal provider ..
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I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Yeah I was with Cingular, then 2 months later they officially became AT&T, and was with them for 4 years, I had bought an unlocked phone after my contract phone died and stayed on a month to month plan, Then I moved to Utah where all my family is, moved so my kids can be around their cousins, and about 6 months here switched to VZ, bought a droid 2 global (f...u.... Moto) and noticed that my data speeds from AT&T were around 1-1.5mbps, VZ here is horrible. I have never gotten faster then 250kbps. This mixed with their bs pricing and lousy service, both hardware, and firmware related, and now the data tiered..... yup I am going to walk into a VZ store grab a VZ flyer stick it down my pants, wipe, and stick it on the door handle. Sorry for the rant, just have a lot of anger with VZ. I'm paying $30 a month for terrible data, I can barely do GPS sometimes. Rant done
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Thats pretty funny though I say you go for it and then be run like hell outa there to nearest att store with the flyer
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Att's "4G" Play isn't true 4G LTE. The next Play I'm sure will be but I've read rumors that ATT and others may not support unlocked phones on their 4G networks (which doesn't make sense at all, but I wouldn't be surprised). Guess we will see. We are 6 months to a year out from a new Play anyway, if it even happens.
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
jgregoryj1 said:
I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Yea att 4g play has some perks I must say!
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But its still 4g.. certainly can't be slower then vz 3g right?
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
jgregoryj1 said:
I came across a relatively new in box with all material Xplay AT&T 4G for $189 with free shipping, even though I still have about 9 months to go thinking if snagging that for when the time comes I can just use it on AT&T. Thats the other reason I dont care for VZ, CDMA, cant do voice and data which is retarded (I know its how the CDMA works) Plus with an unlocked AT&T phone when the wife and I go to China to visit family I can use it there on a prepaid sim card in China.
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Eh, the only reason that AT&T can do both voice and data at the same time is because of how their signal works. Those phones are always receiving two types of signal, so when you're on the phone, the data works at the same time, so long as you have adequate signal for that function.
Personally, the simultaneous voice and data isn't really a draw for me, as I can't think of when I'd ever need to use it. Besides that, it seems rude, at least to me, to be talking and surfing at the same time.
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Supposedly ATT 3G is faster than Verizon 3G. Their "4G" right now is HSPA+ which is really more like 3.5G so its definitely faster. However the new 4G LTE, its like broadband speed. My Mother has a 4G LTE Droid Razr, its so fast that her data service is indistinguishable from WiFi from our cable connection.
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Oh . Well ty for the info! And my brother has a droid4 and vz 4glte is some quick stuff definitely!
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Verizon is only forcing you to a tiered plan when you get a new 3G or 4G phone. Otherwise, you can keep your unlimited data.
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Until they change that to
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Do we have any idea when this will take effect, or just "sometime this summer"?

Best SIM based 3G prepaid network?

I'm looking for a cheap prepaid network based with GSM so that I can get off my family's plan once out contract is up and save them some money. I want to buy an unlocked Note or Nexus to use on the network. Mainly all I want is a decent amount of Data (2GB would work fine cause I hardly even use half a gb a month on Sprint), unlimited texting(I text alot), and maybe around 450 minutes for calling. Plus I want to be able to keep the phone number I have now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and any links to websites with details would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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I'm looking for a cheap prepaid network based with GSM so that I can get off my family's plan once out contract is up and save them some money. I want to buy an unlocked Note or Nexus to use on the network. Mainly all I want is a decent amount of Data (2GB would work fine cause I hardly even use half a gb a month on Sprint), unlimited texting(I text alot), and maybe around 450 minutes for calling. Plus I want to be able to keep the phone number I have now. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, and any links to websites with details would be even better. Thanks in advance!
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That was exactly my thing; left my family's Sprint plan for Straight Talk AT&T and absolutely loving it. Unlimited text, Unlimited minutes, and psuedo-Unlimited data (Over 2GB is getting into cancellation territory, but with you're usage you're more than safe). About $50 a month after taxes. Make sure you pick "AT&T Compatible SIM" when you buy from http://straighttalk.com so you get AT&T coverage. The SIM will work in unlocked phones or locked AT&T phones (it pretends to be an AT&T SIM). So even a locked iPhone would work. I've had no issues with them so far and been with them for a month. Getting full HSPA+ speeds, which is anywhere from 2-5 Mbps on average. But depending on where you are you might get more (HSPA+ tops off at 21 Mbps). You can port your number over. Don't cancel with Sprint though otherwise your number will be gone. You port the number on Straight Talk's end and then your Sprint line will be cancelled. I personally ported my number to Google Voice and use that to forward to whatever number Straight Talk gave me, so I can dial in and out with my real number. And I use the Voice app for texting and voicemail. Works great because then you can text from your real number from your computer or tablet too
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That was exactly my thing; left my family's Sprint plan for Straight Talk AT&T and absolutely loving it. Unlimited text, Unlimited minutes, and psuedo-Unlimited data (Over 2GB is getting into cancellation territory, but with you're usage you're more than safe). About $50 a month after taxes. Make sure you pick "AT&T Compatible SIM" when you buy from http://straighttalk.com so you get AT&T coverage. The SIM will work in unlocked phones or locked AT&T phones (it pretends to be an AT&T SIM). So even a locked iPhone would work. I've had no issues with them so far and been with them for a month. Getting full HSPA+ speeds, which is anywhere from 2-5 Mbps on average. But depending on where you are you might get more (HSPA+ tops off at 21 Mbps). You can port your number over. Don't cancel with Sprint though otherwise your number will be gone. You port the number on Straight Talk's end and then your Sprint line will be cancelled. I personally ported my number to Google Voice and use that to forward to whatever number Straight Talk gave me, so I can dial in and out with my real number. And I use the Voice app for texting and voicemail. Works great because then you can text from your real number from your computer or tablet too
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I've been thinking about either Straight Talk with ATT SIM, or T-Mobile's prepaid service. Not sure. I really haven't done my research on which carrier has better service in my area. If T-Mobile has better service, I'm going with their prepaid plan due to a higher data limit (I believe I can get a 5GB limit, the reason why I don't use much data on Sprint is due to the horrible data speeds. Still have to look into the details on that.)
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I've been thinking about either Straight Talk with ATT SIM, or T-Mobile's prepaid service. Not sure. I really haven't done my research on which carrier has better service in my area. If T-Mobile has better service, I'm going with their prepaid plan due to a higher data limit (I believe I can get a 5GB limit, still have to look into the details on that. )
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If you're referring to T-Mobile's $30 plan with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting, it only includes 100 minutes. Plus you're pretty limited on phone selection if you plan on using international phones since they mostly use AT&T's 3G/4G bands.
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If you're referring to T-Mobile's $30 plan with 5 GB of data and unlimited texting, it only includes 100 minutes. Plus you're pretty limited on phone selection if you plan on using international phones since they mostly use AT&T's 3G/4G bands.
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I plan on the Nexus devices, and i know that the Galaxy Nexus plays well with T-Mobile's 4G network. If the next Nexus is the same way, then I'm going with that on the T-Mobile prepaid plan. If not, I'm going to go with the Straight Talk AT&T plan. But T-Mobile's plan is nicely priced, and I hardly make calls anyways. Definitely not 100 minutes worth a month.
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I plan on the Nexus devices, and i know that the Galaxy Nexus plays well with T-Mobile's 4G network. If the next Nexus is the same way, then I'm going with that on the T-Mobile prepaid plan. If not, I'm going to go with the Straight Talk AT&T plan. But T-Mobile's plan is nicely priced, and I hardly make calls anyways. Definitely not 100 minutes worth a month.
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Straight Talk has SIM cards for either AT&T bands or T-Mobile. I started with AT&T and switched to a T-Mobile card here in Miami and the T-Mobile speeds are way better than AT&T. On AT&T I was constantly getting 500-600 kbps on the downstream and now I'm never less than 1500. Just make sure your device is compatible with the appropriate carrier's network or you'll be stuck on EDGE until the 30 days are up.
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Straight Talk has SIM cards for either AT&T bands or T-Mobile. I started with AT&T and switched to a T-Mobile card here in Miami and the T-Mobile speeds are way better than AT&T. On AT&T I was constantly getting 500-600 kbps on the downstream and now I'm never less than 1500. Just make sure your device is compatible with the appropriate carrier's network or you'll be stuck on EDGE until the 30 days are up.
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I would do that, but T-Mobiles prepaid plan is cheaper. And seems like the better deal. It all just depends on coverage for me though.
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EggosEvo said:
I would do that, but T-Mobiles prepaid plan is cheaper. And seems like the better deal. It all just depends on coverage for me though.
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I used T-Mobile's $30 plan with my Galaxy Nexus. Worked great of course. From an AT&T MVNO, you can usually get unlimited minutes and texts, and 2GB's of data for around $55.
I was on Straight Talk(AT&T sim), but I really disliked the unknown data limit. Some days, I'm on wifi all day, while other days I download a 512MB's worth of files.
You should take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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I used T-Mobile's $30 plan with my Galaxy Nexus. Worked great of course. From an AT&T MVNO, you can usually get unlimited minutes and texts, and 2GB's of data for around $55.
I was on Straight Talk(AT&T sim), but I really disliked the unknown data limit. Some days, I'm on wifi all day, while other days I download a 512MB's worth of files.
You should take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
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I'm gonna start with T-Mobiles $30 plan and see how data is and how well service is everywhere I go. If it's not good, ill keep that plan as a backup and try an AT&T sim on Straight Talk, just in case that if I don't like the service on AT&T's network compared to TMo, I could switch back to T-Mobile's prepaid and keep the $30/month with 5GB unlimited.
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I'm gonna start with T-Mobiles $30 plan and see how data is and how well service is everywhere I go. If it's not good, ill keep that plan as a backup and try an AT&T sim on Straight Talk, just in case that if I don't like the service on AT&T's network compared to TMo, I could switch back to T-Mobile's prepaid and keep the $30/month with 5GB unlimited.
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I was on T-Mobile's plan as well before going with Straight Talk. Look at the fine print, T-Mo throttles big time.
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I was on T-Mobile's plan as well before going with Straight Talk. Look at the fine print, T-Mo throttles big time.
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No they don't. They don't throttle until you hit 5GB's. I get full 4G speeds on that plan. 8-12 down, 1-2 up.
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I'm on the plan and even though I haven't been refarmed and don't have 1700 in my radio I get good 2g speeds. I haven't had any hidden surprises.
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I'm on the plan and even though I haven't been refarmed and don't have 1700 in my radio I get good 2g speeds. I haven't had any hidden surprises.
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What kind of 2G speeds are you getting?
I'm curious because all I can get w/TMO is 2G data speeds.
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What kind of 2G speeds are you getting?
I'm curious because all I can get w/TMO is 2G data speeds.
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Either you're in an area with no 3G or you have an older SIM and need to get it replaced.
It depends but I can see 100 or sometimes 150 kbps down. I wish I had 3g though.
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Just check yourself on the Internet. Not that hard to do.
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Thinking of getting off Verizon and on T-Mobile with nexus 4

I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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Not sure where you are, but this site helped me a lot when I was doing research on carriers in my area.
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/worcester/worcester-january-2013/
I took a quick glance there... and it looks pretty bad.
Compared to my area:
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/sacramento/sacramento-december-2012/
T-Mobile coverage/service is great here.
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it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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i agree, i live in kentucky and i easily use about 6-10gb a month and not having to worry about a data cap is lovely. i have been in a few spotty areas before but for the most part ive always been able to make calls and i havent dropped one yet. ive tried straight talk att here before i went to tmobile and while i did like att service the capped me at 1.5gb and i was only 1 week into the service.
id say look at the places you will be going most and see if tmobile has the coverage there and see if youll be ok with it first, if so make the jump, i did and i havent looked back yet.. im on the $70 unlimited no contract plan
T-No works well in all cities I go to and I have been with them for 7 years or so... check their coverage maps. They are very accurate ...
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My wife and I made the switch from Veriz to T-Mob a few months ago.
There is one big overriding rule. In big population centers... T-Mob is just fine. Building penetration is not as good as Verizon though. Driving around through the lesser populated areas (outskirts and countryside), there is very little (read: none) T-Mob data coverage.
We live in Charlotte, NC and here I am completely happy with the service (data speeds are excellent). But just outside of the metro area, I am roaming. On a trip back to Iowa, the only place we had T-Mobile data was around Des Moines. Outside of Des Moines, we were roaming the whole time (even in Iowa City with population over 80,000).
You can roam with voice and text, and that generally works fine.
You can roam on data (small monthly allowances... depends on data plan) but speeds are very (read: painfully) slow.
But, for us it made sense... It saved us over a thousand dollars a year.
My two cents: If you spend your time in big cities... I'd go for it (or at least try a monthly pre-paid plan). There will be a drop off in coverage compared to verizon, but it is completely tolerable in my opinion.
If you live in (or spend a lot of time) in a small town, or you are on the highway, don't do it if you need data.
I'm really happy with T-Mobile coming from sprint. I live in south Florida and I get full bars almost everywhere I go. Data speed is just awesome I get between 8 to 14 mbps. Compare to sprint in a good day 750 kbps. And plans start at $30 which is what I have!
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I live in Brooklyn, NYC and tmo has been great....well at least to me. Building penetration is lacking, but I can live with that! My speeds are usually great and the $30 data plan takes care of my needs...so for me its perfect!
I live jus north of Boston, Lynn to be exact and have great service. I work in Needham(out skirts of Boston) which I also get great service. My wife's family lives in the south shore (brockton) where the coverage is not so great. I go to the cape every year and the service there is not so great. Both those areas are mainly switching from E to 1 bar on H. Hope this info helps you. Good luck.
Also my wife and friend have att and they get good service jus about everywhere. I don't know how the data speeds are for att but they have better coverage and more expensive than T-Mobile.
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it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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Lakeville. Its a little southwest if Boston close to Middleborough
And thank you everyone for all the info! I think I can deal with a little less coverage.
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I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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I'm on the south shore and recently switched from vzw to tmo. Factually, the network is worse but there hasn't been a time when I couldn't use the phone. Data speeds are fine and I'm not missing messages or calls. My low usage(save for data) didn't justify the exuberant cost that vzw charges and the limits were annoyingly restricting.
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I made the same decision as you last month and here is what I did.
I bought the n4 and the T-Mobile 30/month plan while I still had my Vzw account. I then tested the network and data in my two week return period Google gives. I then decided it was good and canceled my Vzw account.
Once I canceled Vzw and was on tmobiles 70/month unlimited plan, I started having issues that I personally couldn't live with. Tmobiles data speed are excellent (7-42mbps) however their signal is very spotty and my phone was constantly dropping to edge. I could live with this because of the cost savings, however when i noticed I was getting delayed text (sending and receiving) and phone calls not going through, I really started regretting Vzw which was always solid for me. T-Mobile tech support reminds me of the Citibank commercial "this is Peggy" and it sucks!
I then switched to att cause I love the n4, and was able to sign up contract free which I love. Their speeds are a lot slower, but their coverage is very solid. This is when I started actually becoming angry that the n4 didn't support lte since att has lte in the area and tmobile doesn't.
I work in north attleboro ma and this is just my 2 cents. I personally travel for work sometimes and really didn't want to run into no coverage zones with T-Mobile and not be able to roam. Att is not as good as Vzw, so only time will tell. Worst comes to worst I sign on with Vzw again in the future and get their latest and greatest, would have lost unlimited data regardless. Let me know if you need any more advice
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I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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I live in Boston, work in Cambridge - T-Mobile is a beast!!
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why dont you try Solavei its basically is t-mobile no contract for $50 unlimited talk , text, data! and if you dont like you can always go back to verizon
www.solavei.com/SignUp?un=benjaminbribies&from=Invite
Yep. Moved to T-Mobile! Loving it. Love my nexus 4 too
T-Mobile has 4g in my area but hspa+ is fast enough for me. And I always have enough service to send calls and text. Whereas on Verizon it was spotty and only worked some of the time.
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Wise move... Enjoy T-Mobile on the N4! Cool
Month to month, no contract sounds good to me.

Changing carriers

Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
Sprint is your only option for unlimited data. They don't have HSPA, but are substantially cheaper than Verizon.
I just switched from Verizon to ATT yesterday coming from Unlimited as well.
I switched mainly because of the lack of service in my area of work and lack of availability of phones. Does going from Unlimited to 5Ggb suck, yes, but I also have service where I work and will be able to get the beloved HTC One. I'll just need to keep an eye on my usage from now on.
I pay $10 for every GB I go over which doesn't sound too bad to me.
jammicphi said:
Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
I'm joining my fiance's AT&T plan here in NY, there data for two lines isn't horrible. $150 for Unlimited Talk/Text and 4GB shared data for $150 for a few business/pleasure phones isn't too bad, she's paying $100 a month for her non-smartphone though, ****ing crazy!
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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you order the HTC One on locked can you provide link plz, and i did not even think about staright talk that looks really promising same network as AT&T unlimited calls and text plus data unlimited? now im sure they throttle usage over a certain amount just not sure what that amount of data would be.
Witek_M said:
Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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You order a sim card from straight Talks website
Straight Talk uses Verizon towers where I live, my wife too uses it with her gnex
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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It does but HTC One 801e I have ordered does not have frequencies that are needed with T-Mobile.
jammicphi said:
ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Then I say Sprint. They are about 90% done with their Network Vision upgrade in Chicago.
You can visit Sensorly.com so that you can see how their LTE coverage is in your area.

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