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Hey guys..
I think we should gather some thousands of Nexus 1 users, that would agree to sign a letter we can send to google, requesting official ICS release for the Nexus one.
we were all disappointed about not releasing the ICS for nexus one.. so let's just try and maybe google will listen up and try to give us the release..
Google promised every android phone will be supported for at least 3 years.. well, nexus one is not 3 years old.. so y shouldnt it be updated??
Who is In? and DO any1 have any idea about how we should do it the best way?
Edit: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ics-on-nexus-one/
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hey this needs to be posted in a different section, not the development area..
on your subject, meh, as is the N1 has very little memory for apps, so in that regard i understand why they refrain from updating the os, since they would get complaints from users that dont mod their phones. so i understand, i can wait for cm9.
As long as driver support is there I see no reason to stick with an official version due to the storage limitations. I fully agree with the above post about people who don't root their phones not being able to install their every day applications due to the amount of storage.
Plus it's my opinion that online petitions do nothing so I won't even waste my time. Also, you should have probably let someone else write a better petition with less grammatical errors and some proper punctuation would have been a plus.
I think asking for an official release is stretching it, and they arent releasing it for a reason. Asking them to release all the drivers/libs we need to build our own from source would be a reasonable ask. That way they are not responsible for the experimental nature of any roms produced.
Also, updating Android 2.3.x to higher versions(to 2.3.8 and higher) with bugfixes and some minor features counts also as supporting a device in my opinion.
ICS is just to big for the Nexus One's storage.
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ICS is just to big for the Nexus One's storage.
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We dont need an official as we gave many great devs to make one for our lovely old nexus one, we can resize our partition via BlackRose...
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Sorry to be a downer, but this won't do anything.
As much as I would love to see an "official" ICS release for the Nexus One... I don't think it is possible for Google to release one because the N1 specs don't measure up to the ICS requirements...
To quote an article in ExtremeTech... which IMHO makes complete sense...
Let’s start with the Snapdragon S1 SoC, which is downright old, having first shipped in 2009. The clock speed is fine, but the chip does less work each clock cycle than newer Qualcomm processors. Of greater concern is the Adreno 200 GPU which is capable of just a fraction of the performance seen in other GPUs. Android 4.0 makes use of hardware acceleration for 2D drawing, so a sluggish GPU could be an issue.
Perhaps the most serious impediment to the Nexus One getting Ice Cream Sandwich is the small storage space. We aren’t talking about user-accessible SD storage, but the internal ROM where apps and the operating system reside. The Nexus One was designed by Google and HTC to have just 512MB of ROM, 190MB of which was dedicated to user apps.
Anyone that used the Nexus for any length of time probably remembers bumping up against that storage limit. ICS is going to be larger than Gingerbread was, and it is very possible that it just doesn’t fit on the internal storage, or if it does, it might take up a large part of the app storage space. This would not be an upgrade in the true sense of the word for users.
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The best we can hope for is a community release... and this should be good enough...
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hey this needs to be posted in a different section, not the development area..
on your subject, meh, as is the N1 has very little memory for apps, so in that regard i understand why they refrain from updating the os, since they would get complaints from users that dont mod their phones. so i understand, i can wait for cm9.
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All Google would have to do is make a MTP Compliant Driver that works for Nexus One. And put a requirement of 2GB or something for a SD card. Expanding it to having 2GB for system/apps.
Or Easier if they decide not to go the MTP route with Nexus One, push an update with part 1 of 2. Part 2 being extra's that are not necessary for the phone, allowing the applications to be installed to SD.
Official ICS port would be nice, as it must be fully functional to those who are not-familiar-with-development.
But if CM9 work flawlessly, there'd no need to get an official rom.
I will just wait till January, when CM9 comes out.
I agree with what you're saying, but I will not sign such a poorly written petition. Rewrite that **** and let me know when it's presentable. Respect.
I was talking with a Google Engineer (my seatmate on a flight from SFO) and he said that if Google were to release an official Ice Cream Sandwich update for the Nexus One it would have to renamed "Ice Cream Scoop", because so much of ICS would have to be removed in order for it to work properly.
He felt that the processor/GPU while not as fast as say other devices, is fast enough (to be acceptable) but there is simply not enough storage space. Apparently, Google did try to make ICS work on the Nexus One and he said many people at Google were disappointed that it could not be done, he included, but it was not from lack of trying.
For whatever it worth, the guy seemed genuine and we spent the better part of the flight talking about the Mobile space and Android in particular.
Dan
I wouldn't expect to hear anything different form a Google employee, but would take any comments made with a grain of salt.
The N1 has had hardware limitations & problems from day one, & the responsibility ultimately falls on Google IMO. It carries the Google name & was released & sold directly by Google, going through I'm sure a rigorous testing process before release.
It's sad that in hindsight I think the Nexus One was a pretty poorly designed and supported phone. It has major hardware issues like storage, the power button, and the touchscreen, among other minor things, like not being able to switch SIM cards without removing the battery.
Software wise, everyone thought because it's a Google phone, it would be supported for a while, but it really hasn't. Looking back, it only received one real update that worked well, froyo. While gingerbread came es well, it just introduced bugs that weren't there before, most notably, GPS locking, which has yet to be fixed.
If ICS wouldn't work well because of the memory limitations then fine, but at the very least, fix the existing issues with GB.
Time for a new device
I love the Nexus One just as much as the next person. But I'm ready for a new phone. More Ram, more Cores, less power consumption. It's time for my Nexus One to go to the electronics graveyard. It'll be a nice backup. But the phone is showing it's age. It's gotten a lot smoother with every iteration of CM, but it still stutters in the market and various other places. Hardware acceleration needs to be implemented and I want more speed and that beautiful screen on the Galaxy Nexus. Somebody needs to start selling the 32gb GSM Tmobile/ATT version somewhere, anywhere...
negroplasty said:
I agree with what you're saying, but I will not sign such a poorly written petition. Rewrite that **** and let me know when it's presentable. Respect.
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Pretty much. The double full stops.. and question marks?? Lack of capitalisation, and spelling "you" "U". Poor grammar, poor spelling. Something you could get away with writing on here, but ot the sort of thing you write in a formal letter to a company.
It understandable. My Nexus One ran out of memory for apps all the times. There is no reason that ICS will have smaller size than stock gingerbread. In that case, the balance memory for apps will be even smaller.
I was not expecting to get ICS upgrade from official release.
signed, ahihihi
zaher.bahouth said:
Hey guys..
I think we should gather some thousands of Nexus 1 users, that would agree to sign a letter we can send to google, requesting official ICS release for the Nexus one.
we were all disappointed about not releasing the ICS for nexus one.. so let's just try and maybe google will listen up and try to give us the release..
Google promised every android phone will be supported for at least 3 years.. well, nexus one is not 3 years old.. so y shouldnt it be updated??
Who is In? and DO any1 have any idea about how we should do it the best way?
Edit: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ics-on-nexus-one/
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I highly doubt about this will be useful.
Better ask google to release just the compatible proprietary drivers so developers make the rest.
Google delayed the Q so it can add additional features, will we get these features too ?
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Google delayed the Q so it can add additional features, will we get these features too ?
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No one at this time except for those internal to Google.
If I had to bet the functionality will be SW and all Nexus Q's will get it.
I agree with Shieze on thinking that all modifications will be software related. I bought mine on ebay also and I have to assume that I'm a little scared to have paid too much for something and they now can just release a new hardware or something.
If it's a new hardware, it's done, cause they gave it away for free, so, our case is lost! We paid for it because we are hungry to new technology, so, it's not their matters...
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I agree with Shieze on thinking that all modifications will be software related. I bought mine on ebay also and I have to assume that I'm a little scared to have paid too much for something and they now can just release a new hardware or something.
If it's a new hardware, it's done, cause they gave it away for free, so, our case is lost! We paid for it because we are hungry to new technology, so, it's not their matters...
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The way I see it, it probably is going to be hardware related in part at least. Why delay a launch when they can just push out a software update? That doesn't make sense unless it has something to do with hardware imo.
Thinking more about it you probably are right. Why they will just sent a "preview" version for free if it was only software. There is no reason... start to regret to be so hungry about new stuff...
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I also think it has to hardware related. Why else give away inventory for free? I'm kicking myself for buying off ebay, but at this point there's not much I can do about it. Just have to wait and see.
I highly doubt it it hardware related, the Q's sold on eBay were given out to developers Why would Google screw the developers? That is unless they are going to make it cheaper...
Believe me, I'll be very happy if I'm wrong.
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Hardware will stay the same, don't worry about that.
They are giving them away for free just to buy some more time to make it worth $299 and that has nothing to do with the hardware.
Nexus Q is running on Jelly Bean, new version which still has to be adopted by the side of developers, and Google still has to create appropriate SDK for Q.
On the other hand, it's not only the software, they also have to make some changes to make all or some of their web-based products avialable on Nexus Q but controlled from other older versions of android.
It's not a simple task and they need some more time to do that.
But, even if they make any hardware changes, they will not going to affect the functionality of the firstly shipped devices.
For example - 3.5 mm audio jack.
Everything will stay the same, you will still have all the functionalities.
But they will not change even that.
Google started developing open source OS (Android) and invested billions in past few years just to create it for free and to spread the internet among the end users. That means more adds and more money for Google.
They will do the same with Nexus Q. They are trying to bring commercials to your living room.
Maybe you are concerned now, but just wait for few more weeks and you will be very happy and satisfied, trust me.
I don't feel bad about buying off Ebay at all. I do feel a bit sad about missing the "pre-order" for the 2nd Q
But even if Google does change the HW for the "real" release, you should realize you bought a "Developer" edition for a reason - you have full access to the software that runs the Q. I have an Apple TV, and its *useless* to me, because Apple doesn't give me any way to make it my own. With the Q, even if it bombs at being an entertainment center, is still a low power, dual core Linux computer with a USB port that you can run all day & night for home automation, music playing, file serving, general web browsing, alarm clocking, whatever, because the source is available.
Plus, its a glowing ball! Who doesn't want a mysterious glowing ball with wires coming out the back!
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Plus, its a glowing ball! Who doesn't want a mysterious glowing ball with wires coming out the back!
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That's what I told my wife.
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Which one would you recon would be a better all around phone
One X + specs http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4976
Nexus 4 specs http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_4_e960-5048.php
I would go for the nexus 4 but the 16gb space seems too limiting and I love the sense UI but also hate how manufacturers take ages to release the android os updates hence always turn to custom roms and am a frequent flasher.
which one would you also recon has better battery life?
i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck
It's your call on the phone. They have pros and cons. The flagship phones usually get updates longer then lower end models. HTC has good hardware. Nexus is bare bones and designed to be minimalist.
Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.
1gb of ram is fail, especially on a sense phone where the ui uses a third of your ram from boot
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marwan91 said:
i would compare htc with samsung but not with nexus..
getting a nexus phone isn't only about the specs of the phone,
if u need pure android and fast updates with limited hardware specs then go for nexus
if u need a device for its hardware spec like storage and the ability to increase is then i suggest u go with htc.
since the sgs 1 i got i will never go for other than the nexus samsung left as with their GB and never got updates since then..although we got many custom roms but still not like stock.
at the end it is ur decision be wise and think twice before taking the next step.
GoodLuck
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no sd card
and who says nexus 4 has limited hardware! its a powerful phone mc4 whit max setting(mod) runs at 50-29 FPS
I used to have a one s and a one x...and i would definitely keep the nexus over both. HTC's always get support for like a couple of months after release then just die. Also updates never happen. After the one s and x i'm most likely never going to buy another HTC again.
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How many VS. threads are yet to follow to clutter up XDA Use (for instance) Google and Youtube to search for and compare phones.
doesn't matter anymore
Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.
but when 5.0 comes out people will come back to Nexus and bashing the OEM's again for being late because its a major update and that will take awhile.
plus, Seriously considering One X series?? do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them. We are talking about a device which is optimized/in-sync with the OS itself here.
its a no brainer to choose Nexus 4 for me cuz of the price. and updates are important, cuz you know money doesn't easily come so i have to make it count. i'm a geek so i have to be the latest in software. haha.
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Since Google now updates apps instead of Os, getting a Nexus device no longer matters. Jelly Bean is a mature OS. Nothing really new out there. Rumours are 4.3 will contain minimal improvements. Not as important anymore. Go with phones that has features that matter to you now. Not 2 years from now.
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Incorrect. Nexus devices so matter. Nexus has one thing that other phones do not and that is the availability of working drivers from the very start.
When Android 4.3 come out, other phones will have broken auto rotate, cellular data, bluetooth, gps or whatever it may be because of the drivers not working properly with 4.3 and when 5.0 comes out, it will be even more significant to the point that it will be a large transition kind of like Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich depending on what 5.0 includes.
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do yourself a favor and get HTC One(M7). else, Nexus it is! spec might not be as good as S4 or One, but definitely smoother than them.
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Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.
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Agreed with everything else in the comment, but the HTC One is just as smooth as the N4 from what I've seen.
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It's not noticeable but the slight stutter is there. I played with One almost everyday. It is fast, with RARE slowdown. Sometimes in loading an app.
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I have both phones and I would suggest to somebody to get the n4 over the x+ in a heartbeat. It's just an overall better phone in fact it's the best phone I've ever had the pleasure of owning. Plus if you are into modifying your your phone with roms and kernels then I do not suggest getting an x+. On the flip side the n4 has a huge development community that is extremely active
Meh Kittehs say meow from my Xperia TL
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Why do people keep saying the Nexus is limited this or lacks hardware that? The Nexus 4 is one of the most powerful devices on the market. In fact, it has the smoothest performance out of all the devices. Do yourself a favor and get the Nexus, If you want somewhat better pictures then get the One X.
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True it is quite powerful, but when I was comparing the N4 to say a used S3, couple of things stood out (And course this could be the same comparison to a One X+)
- No user-removable battery, as such no extendable battery, the N4's powerful cpu can suck down that 2100mA battery pretty easy.
- No micro-SD card , so no readability there, but can put a 64GB into an S3
- No USB-OTG support (so can't just plan on using some 32GB thumbdrive, and you only have a choice of 8GB or 16GB, no 32GB model yet)
That's basically what my take on it, an its usually non-issue to most people.
Far as a N4 vs a One, just in terms of practicality and not doing number crunching, especially since I feel like both of them are rather nice and would likely be happy with either for day to day use.
On the N4 :
1) Extremely easy to unlock the bootloader (fastboot oem unlock, no codes, etc).
2) Extremely easy to add a custom recovery (fastboot flash recovery name-of-recovery.img)
3) Extremely easy to just add a custom rom (boot up into recovery, wipe, adb push what you want, flash)
4) Rather easy to root stock AOSP once you got recovery (TWRP will isntall SuperSu for you, just let SuperSu do the rest)
5) More likely to use the shipped AOSP rom than I would HTC Sense
6) If google says a phone is getting an update, it's getting an update, none of that HTC BS bout Desire-HD getting ICS then all the sudden Nope.
And besides, it's nearly impossible to hard brick a Nexus 4, if you're a flash-a-holic, unlike the HTC One X that my brother somehow hard-bricked (he only had it rooted, nothing more) and just shut down and is a paperweight (I spent maybe 3 weeks on seeing if I could repair it before it got tossed).
You could get an HTC one Google edition
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You could get an HTC one Google edition
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Sprint Galaxy S3 "Supernexus"
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Look it up.
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What price those going to run at anyways? I mean if it's 200-300$ more than the normal edition with Sense, I'd rather get a Nexus4 that already had the same treatment, or wait until the AOSP version been out a while, root a normal OneX+ and then put a rooted AOSP rom based on that release onto it and save a few hundred. (assuming physically both models are the same... though not likely).
Though if the price is at what NewEgg has it at right now (399$ (50% off) for an Unlocked HTC One X+ 16GB) , then it's a bit of a tougher decision compared to the 350$ you'd pay for the N4 16GB. But if it's at the 600-700$ range... I'm going for the N4.
This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?
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This discussion began in Jan and the person who started this must have bought his phone by now. Shouldn't this thread be closed?
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Looks like kamranhaghighi (and maybe LuffyPSP) are to blame for necro-bumpin'
PS: In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster. (course that being said I wonder how many other N4 vs HTC One [blank] threads there are).
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In the searchable interwebs, topics like these rarely stay for the sole benefit of just the original poster.
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Noted
SO here I am sitting here with My lemon of a phone the Samsung Galaxy S 19000m from Bell Mobility/ Virgin Mobile. Hard bricked it once had to get it fixed , display crapped out had to get that replaced last summer and now once again the display has crapped out once more. On top of that I can be connected to a strong wifi or mobile data point and the phone will randomly tell me no connection can be made check your signal or wifi connection. Had this phone almost three years and looking to trash it and get a Nexus 4.
What kind of difference can I expect going from the lemon to the nexus 4.
Well, you can't really squeeze the Nexus 4 and make juice from it, that's one advantage the lemon has. However, on the plus side you don't need to add sugar to enjoy your Nexus 4 either..
You shall drop neither.
Beside that, Nexus 4 can brighten your surroundings. But the lemon can make them soaking.
Go get it tiger
I think u should go for N4 but after Google I/O which isn't far. Who knows, u might end up with a 32 GB version in the same price as current 16 GB.
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Go get it tiger
I think u should go for N4 but after Google I/O which isn't far. Who knows, u might end up with a 32 GB version in the same price as current 16 GB.
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Well the screen on my galaxy will probably go totally dark in the next few days at this rate so will not be able to make out going calls just receive them. I am heavily leaning towards the Nexus but if my Tax return comes soon I am paying off my 200 supertab then possibly getting the S4 instead.
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Well the screen on my galaxy will probably go totally dark in the next few days at this rate so will not be able to make out going calls just receive them. I am heavily leaning towards the Nexus but if my Tax return comes soon I am paying off my 200 supertab then possibly getting the S4 instead.
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SO I did it i got me a Nexus 4 traded in that lemon. I rooted it last night and now am looking for a good rom to install I loved using Cyanogen mod is thsat any god on the Nexus or is there something better? What about Kernels? Also Im new to this Android Beem and NFC chip thing any recommendations for uses and apps?
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SO I did it i got me a Nexus 4 traded in that lemon. I rooted it last night and now am looking for a good rom to install I loved using Cyanogen mod is thsat any god on the Nexus or is there something better? What about Kernels? Also Im new to this Android Beem and NFC chip thing any recommendations for uses and apps?
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Even though I have rooted every other device I've ever owned, and ran CM on all of them, I kept my Nexus devices (4, 7) stock, unrooted. I don't find any reason to root, and I certainly wouldn't give up pure 4.2.2 for CM. The only reason I ever used CM on my other devices was because that was the closest I could get to pure Android. With the Nexus 4 there is no need to change anything, for me.
As far as NFC, Google Wallet is the main thing I use. I find no other real world usage for NFC as I think it's silly to put little stickers everywhere when tasker could accomplish the same feats. Android Beam, on the other hand is a cool feature but I don't use it much since I generally share whatever photos I have on social networks anyway, and I don't transfer 'files' very often.
I am considering buying the Samsung Galaxy S IV as I am eligible for an upgrade. I currently have the Nexus 4 which is still a very good phone. I am considering upgrading to the GS4 for a few reasons. The main reason is because of the amazing display on the GS4. I love to have a good display. The camera is also better and so is the processor. I also think the GS4 feels better in the hand and is more durable.
My main issue with the GS4 is Touchwiz. I am a purist and hate anything that changes Android from stock. I want to make sure if I buy this phone that eventually there will be stable stock ROMs available to flash on this phone. I also was wondering if you guys think the GS4 will ever get Key Lime pie when it finally comes out.
The GS4 looks like an amazing phone but if I can not get rid of touchwiz that is a deal breaker for me.
So what's the verdict?
If I were you, I'd wait a while, at least until Dan releases his bootloader unlock exploit. Until then, it's Touchwiz City!
why get a samsung if you like pure aosp? and this device will definitely be getting klp in addition to the 4.3 update that's rumored to be announced soon to unify all of google's chat apps. it was only just released, and supposedly both 4.3 and 5 are supposed to be out before the end of the year. if samsung can't keep up with updates for a phone within the first year of it being released they might as well give up on being a phone manufacturer.
Pixel size ≠ better picture quality. I wouldn't call the GS4 a significant upgrade from a LGN4. Same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU the minor cpu speed bump that the SGS4 has is definitely offset by touchwiz and it's ram hogging features.
Also you'll receive KLP no problem I guarantee.. the GS4 JUST came out man haha.. As far as getting rid of touchwiz Seeing as how there is already some for of early nightlies of CM10.1 for the T-Mobile GS4, you can bet your ass that once the bootloader is unlocked we'll receive it very quickly.
Seems like you should stick to the LGN4 for now.
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why get a samsung if you like pure aosp? and this device will definitely be getting klp in addition to the 4.3 update that's rumored to be announced soon to unify all of google's chat apps. it was only just released, and supposedly both 4.3 and 5 are supposed to be out before the end of the year. if samsung can't keep up with updates for a phone within the first year of it being released they might as well give up on being a phone manufacturer.
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Why get a Samsung? Because the hardware is great and as long as I can flash an AOSP ROM what's the difference? The bigger screen and the Super AMOLED display are the key reasons for me. The better camera is a nice perk. I like my Nexus 4 it's just...I don't know there are a lot of little things that bug me. Maybe I should wait for the bootloader to officially be unlocked.
I can sell my Nexus 4 for at least $250 and buy the Galaxy S4 for $200. If I were to wait what phone should I wait for? I like the Nexus experience as far as software goes but Samsung has better hardware and a lot of benefits like a Polycarbonate design, Gorilla Glass 3, a removable battery, an SD Card, and that beautiful screen.
As long as I can flash an AOSP ROM I see no reason not to get the GS4. Am I wrong?
Samsung and AT&T are generally pretty bad about pushing out updates..
Key Lime Pie might hit the S4 6 months (probably longer than that) or so after it's on the Nexus.
If we get the bootloader unlocked then I am sure a dev will have it available pretty quick after it's released..
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Why get a Samsung? Because the hardware is great and as long as I can flash an AOSP ROM what's the difference? The bigger screen and the Super AMOLED display are the key reasons for me. The better camera is a nice perk. I like my Nexus 4 it's just...I don't know there are a lot of little things that bug me. Maybe I should wait for the bootloader to officially be unlocked.
I can sell my Nexus 4 for at least $250 and buy the Galaxy S4 for $200. If I were to wait what phone should I wait for? I like the Nexus experience as far as software goes but Samsung has better hardware and a lot of benefits like a Polycarbonate design, Gorilla Glass 3, a removable battery, an SD Card, and that beautiful screen.
As long as I can flash an AOSP ROM I see no reason not to get the GS4. Am I wrong?
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You may consider waiting for the Nexus 5 which is rumored to be announced in October, just a suggestion?
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Pixel size ≠ better picture quality. I wouldn't call the GS4 a significant upgrade from a LGN4. Same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU the minor cpu speed bump that the SGS4 has is definitely offset by touchwiz and it's ram hogging features.
Also you'll receive KLP no problem I guarantee.. the GS4 JUST came out man haha.. As far as getting rid of touchwiz Seeing as how there is already some for of early nightlies of CM10.1 for the T-Mobile GS4, you can bet your ass that once the bootloader is unlocked we'll receive it very quickly.
Seems like you should stick to the LGN4 for now.
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You may consider waiting for the Nexus 5 which is rumored to be announced in October, just a suggestion?
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I kind of want to be on a device officially supported by AT&T. My nexus 4 seems does not seem to get as good of coverage as my old Samsung Galaxy S II. Data speeds are for the most part good but sometimes data will just drop in places where my GSII would not. This is especially true when using it while moving in a vehicle. It would also be nice to have LTE.
Also when the Nexus 5 does come out it will probably be low price again from what I have heard. If it is $300 like the Nexus 4 I could easily sell the GS4 for that price and get the Nexus 5 if I really wanted it.
jedinegotiator said:
I kind of want to be on a device officially supported by AT&T. My nexus 4 seems does not seem to get as good of coverage as my old Samsung Galaxy S II. Data speeds are for the most part good but sometimes data will just drop in places where my GSII would not. This is especially true when using it while moving in a vehicle. It would also be nice to have LTE.
Also when the Nexus 5 does come out it will probably be low price again from what I have heard. If it is $300 like the Nexus 4 I could easily sell the GS4 for that price and get the Nexus 5 if I really wanted it.
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Flash different radios to see what if any better throughput you can get on your LGN4. That's what I would do. In addition to my GS4 I am using a Galaxy Nexus on ATT and at first the stock radio was awful poor service, bad reception slow download speeds, the works, yet when I would flash a different one, I've seen speeds of up to 10MBPS, and my GS4 is getting between 20-25, 10 is definitely enough for my needs. It is a pain in the ass figuring out the right one for your location but it's well worth it.
My advice to you is to hold of for a few months because one, you will definitely be able to get the GS4 cheaper and two, key lime pie will be hitting Nexus devices soon I'm sure you'll want to try it out. That's one of the reasons, if not THE main reason I haven't sold my Galaxy Nexus yet. The LGN4 is still a formidable device, don't write it off as obsolete just yet. It's a great phone, my only gripe with it was the non removable battery and the glass backing but who knows. Maybe LG will be making a LTE capable similar phone in the foreseeable future! Haha.
mcmb03 said:
You may consider waiting for the Nexus 5 which is rumored to be announced in October, just a suggestion?
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Or do what I'm doing. Used my upgrade to buy my S4 for $200. Then in a few months sell it used for more ~$400 and buy the next Nexus for ~$350.
USMC0341 said:
Flash different radios to see what if any better throughput you can get on your LGN4. That's what I would do. In addition to my GS4 I am using a Galaxy Nexus on ATT and at first the stock radio was awful poor service, bad reception slow download speeds, the works, yet when I would flash a different one, I've seen speeds of up to 10MBPS, and my GS4 is getting between 20-25, 10 is definitely enough for my needs. It is a pain in the ass figuring out the right one for your location but it's well worth it.
My advice to you is to hold of for a few months because one, you will definitely be able to get the GS4 cheaper and two, key lime pie will be hitting Nexus devices soon I'm sure you'll want to try it out. That's one of the reasons, if not THE main reason I haven't sold my Galaxy Nexus yet. The LGN4 is still a formidable device, don't write it off as obsolete just yet. It's a great phone, my only gripe with it was the non removable battery and the glass backing but who knows. Maybe LG will be making a LTE capable similar phone in the foreseeable future! Haha.
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I didn't even know you could flash radios on the Nexus 4. That's not the same as a Kernel is it? I have updated my APNs which incresed data speed substantially but service is still spotty. Call quality doesn't seem to be the best on the Nexus 4 either. People complain that they can't hear me very clearly a lot. Could just be my low monotone voice, lol.
When is Key Lime Pie expected to come out? It should be a pretty large update right? Maybe Google I/O will shed light on this...
jedinegotiator said:
I didn't even know you could flash radios on the Nexus 4. That's not the same as a Kernel is it? I have updated my APNs which incresed data speed substantially but service is still spotty. Call quality doesn't seem to be the best on the Nexus 4 either. People complain that they can't hear me very clearly a lot. Could just be my low monotone voice, lol.
When is Key Lime Pie expected to come out? It should be a pretty large update right? Maybe Google I/O will shed light on this...
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No sir, kernel is not the same as radio. There aren't many available yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
and so is the processor. I also think the GS4 feels better in the hand and is more durable. lol nexus 4 fells a lot better than plastic and the prossesor u want feel diffenet! at least for now! nexus 4 is super fast! but ofc nexus 4 will get first updates and fast! and u can get the gs4 vanilla android version announced at google I/O and even if not u can flash cyanogen or paranoid or any other [email protected]