I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
What do you CDMA customers plan to do ?
Don't want to offend you but theres quite a few people outside the US, maybe it's not worth for them anymore
Same boat...
I'm in the same boat. Honestly though, I've largely had it with Sprint and while I've been with them for over 10 years, the quality of the service has declined a great deal in the past 6 months. 3G data is slow and here in San Diego, WiMax was a failure. LTE is promised but has yet to be launched, so the jury is out and it could be 2014 before it's where I live on the coast.
I'm not going to Verizon, but thinking hard on prepaid, to the point of buying the Nexus 4 next month for a few weeks of trialing (T-Mo?) while keeping my OG Evo with Sprint. If things pan out, I might save some money and have a serviceable smartphone.
They don't at least dont with verizon because of a CDMA band that causes verizon to check every update that comes through. They basically arent doing what apple & microsoft to come extent do. They just haven't bothered.
GSM IS more popular, besides the CDMA carriers are more pricey(Yes that means you Big Red).
I doubt the CDMA call will go unanswered. Just give it more time.
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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
Now with the latest Nexus 4 announcement Google basically told all CDMA customers to f*** off.
So what are our options if your not on GSM and want pure android. Are we forced to buy a GS3 or other phone and root w(CM10) ?
I'm confused by their approach and leaving out so many people who want the AOSP experience and Nexus phones.
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Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.
I imagine they are discussing with CDMA characters maybe about providing updates sooner?
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I'm really disappointed with Google regarding the Nexus 4 announcement. I have Sprint service and up until now Sprint was very tight w Google and got the Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus.
What do you CDMA customers plan to do ?
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Sprint was NOT really tight with Google on their Nexus phones in my opinion. Sprint got the Nexus-S in May 2011, when it was first released to T-Mobile and worldwide in December 2010. Same with the Galaxy Nexus, Sprint got it April 2012, where as the GSM version was released in November 2011, and Verizon December 2011.
If Sprint was Google's best buddy, why have the Nexus phones been delayed like 6 months after release to Sprint ?
I can't really blame google here for the CMDA issue.
Basically google is giving Verizon the middle finger (and rightly so for the way Verizon handled updates)
It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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I am so glad I just got out of Sprint.
Currently on T-mobile right now, and having actual 3G makes phone so much faster.
I think you should read the very good articles from theverge.com. They explained why there is no LTE and comments on CDMA.
In my opinion, Google's decision to not release CDMA version will benefit us all.
Google's plan is giving out pure google experience to many people and Verizon so far has been not co-operating well.
Seeing how long it took to have Jellybean reached to Verizon's Nexus device, it resulted bad rep to both Android and Google.
If this Nexus become a success, Verizon my bend to Google's will and deliver the pure google experience.
Also making CDMA version would mean having LTE chip, which will cause fragmentation among Nexus phones.
This will increase the cost for production and maintenance.
They could increase the price of the phone like iPhone and make all variants but I would say it is better to keep the price low so more people can buy it.
Sacrificing Verizon and Sprint customers for the better.
I somewhat get how some of you say Google is giving VZW the big middle finger - especially with the long delays they cause for updates and the ping-pong with Wallet.
I say the real test is if Google scales back the Motorola/VZW love-fest. Moto is so far up VZW's hoo hoo I don't think they can see any light. They release multiple phones on VZW and have a single, US GSM phone that's not terrible, but I don't see it destroying the market either...
I'd personally on some levels love to see Google let Moto fail a terrible, horrible, destructive death and quietly take the patents and run with them like they intended. On another level, I'd love to see Google purchase Tmobile, raise up Moto as a real phone maker again, and have a perfectly, vertically integrated system. Man, that'd be sweet.
haha, verizon and their CDMA network is not the centre of the universe. hardly even close.
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Well it was more like Google telling Verizon to f*** off, and Verizon not caring about their customers enough to work a deal with Google and bring the device.
Don't like how Verizon operates? Leave them.
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I completely agree, verizon has been terrible to google since google started the nexus line, verizon just fights google about google wallet ever since they tried to release it. Verizon was the best...now there are the worst, they just think they're the best. I'm a verizon customer and I can't wait to switch but i can't for awhile. >:l but i still think Google should have developed a CDMA model for samsung, i would love to switch to their unlimited data plan.
CDMA is an end of the road/dead technology abandoned by its developers and development body (i.e Qualcomm and 3GPP2). It also used in very few places (a few providers in North American and worldwide).
IMO Sprint/Verizon/etc are at fault for not implementing VoLTE to get rid of the frankenCDMA stopgap called eHRPD. That way they can sell are pure LTE device and not have to deal with the complexities of circuit switched fallback to CDMA (which is much more complex than for UMTS).
So I'm not surprised, its a terrible mess for CDMAs transition to 3G until they finally get rid of their CDMA network and go to pure LTE.
As someone on Sprint who is about to experience LTE entering my market, I will be thrilled to transition away from these ****e 3G speeds. In the next 6 months I look forward to the fruits of that SoftBank+Sprint deal, as well.
As far as the CDMA versions of this phone are concerned, it seems safe to assume that Sprint's version will be released in a similar manner as with the previous two Nexus devices. I cannot speak for Verizon. I also feel that the gap between GSM and CDMA releases for the Nexus 4 will only be good for the maturity of the CDMA version of the handset.
An interesting aside: I wonder if the SoftBank+Sprint deal that enabled Sprint to take majority ownership of Clearwire means that Sprint will change strategy and put WiMax radios back into new devices? Then there would be a 3G+LTE radio, a WiFI radio and a WiMax Radio (Or it would be a combined WiFi+WiMax radio that switched between the two states).
Sorry guys, but now that Sprint has the iPhone, I doubt they give a flying f*** about Nexus devices. And outside the US, how many people are actually on a CDMA carrier? Not many. GSM is the Global Standard, so it would make sense for Google to market the device unlocked for GSM making it available to the majority of wireless consumers. Plus, if enough people gripe about it to Sprint and Verizon they might fold into the accords of Google.
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It's one device...I bet you will see another cdma nexus in the future..calm down
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Aside from the Nexus One, the Nexus devices haven't been very attractive. But the Nexus 4 is sexy as all hell and cheap too. That's why us Nexus users are pissed. :\
WiMax will not be returning. It just won't, it doesn't make sense.
Sprint also has to sell a certain number of iPhones to satisfy their agreement with Apple. I'm surprised they're even carrying the LGOG.
CDMA was a bad choice over GSM a long time ago. GSM is also on the way out, but it's still the global standard and has great interoperability, which LTE does not and may never have.
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I guess I know what my next upgrade will be.
Nexus One from Google Coming to Sprint; Availability Date Announced Soon
Nexus One(TM) is planned for the Sprint Mobile Broadband Network with twice the network coverage of AT&T and ten times the network coverage of T-Mobile, both by square miles; Expands Sprint's Android(TM) portfolio
OVERLAND PARK, Kan., Mar 17, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Nexus One, the first wireless phone sold through Google(TM)'s web store, is planned for Sprint's 3G Mobile Broadband Network. Sprint (NYSE:S) will announce pricing and an exact availability date soon. Nexus One will benefit from Sprint's 3G network with twice the coverage of AT&T and 10 times the coverage of T-Mobile, both based on square miles.1
Sprint currently has America's largest voice calling area of any carrier reaching more than 307 million people in the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands with a Sprint phone and plan that includes roaming. PC World recently said no one has a more reliable network than Sprint in a 13 city 3G performance test.2 Customers can check the quality of network coverage with street level mapping at sprint.com/coverage.
"Nexus One is a powerful device that belongs on a powerful network. This is another step in our continued partnership of innovation with Google," said Fared Adib, Sprint vice president of product development. "Sprint customers already have the option of two amazing Android devices with Samsung Moment(TM) and HTC Hero(TM). It is a natural fit for us to add Nexus One to the list of choices available for Sprint customers who want the best value in wireless with the best in Android."
More after the jump:
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1403426&highlight=
EDIT: "A pricing plan has not yet been determined for Nexus One..." Hmmm... I hope I don't have to fork over $500 for this thing.
Oh hell yes !!
illogic6 said:
I guess I know what my next upgrade will be.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1403426&highlight=
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NICE FIND !!! Now let the deliberation begin....... N1 or Supersonic hmmmm
It says it'll be on 3g not 4g....
good find im torn between that and the supersonic atleast if the supersonic falls through i can always get the N1! thanks for sharing the article gives me something to look foward to ...not that i dont love my hero or anything
Thats cool, but now that the supersonic is coming there is no way I would downgrade to a N1. Thats just me though.
That is indeed very exciting. The N1 is a very very very nice phone.
JIZZ IN MY PANTS. am getting it
whichever comes out first will be what i get. supersonic is bad and all but i love the nexus. not to mention the incredible Dev support on the nexus. i live in ky so i could care less about 4g haha. man today has been a good cell phone day
Wow, decisions decisions. Dont know which I'd prefer, the Nexus One or Supersonic.
- 4g would be great but I doubt it'll be available in my area for a while. AND, although I love sense UI, it has obviously kept my Sprint Hero at ver. 1.5. I'm not happy about that.
- N1 is a Google phone so it'll receive all updates as soon as they come out. Plus, I like the noise cancelling mic.
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whichever comes out first will be what i get. supersonic is bad and all but i love the nexus. not to mention the incredible Dev support on the nexus. i live in ky so i could care less about 4g haha. man today has been a good cell phone day
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I'll agree with you on that one... except that we'll be in the same boat as we are with the GSM Hero...
Nexus CDMA will probably not be compatible with all the Nexus GSM ROMs etc without extra work.
Not a huge deal... better to be that close to the first N1 so we can port their stuff than to have some random crazy phone no one has been developing for.
Also, being able to root more easily would be nice.
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I'll agree with you on that one... except that we'll be in the same boat as we are with the GSM Hero...
Nexus CDMA will probably not be compatible with all the Nexus GSM ROMs etc without extra work.
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Yes but by doing this Google is essentially giving CDMA more attention/work. It seems like the phone manufacturers where doing hacks(it is fact for the hero) to get CDMA to work. CDMA has been supported since 1.6 but now it seems like Google is fully acknowledging it.
ONLY 2 MONTHS after I got the hero. I wonder if it will have a nice subsidized price?
I hated my Hero up until a 2.1 rom I put on there.....I'm interested in a faster phone to remind me of my iPhone (LOL). I will get whichever is cheapest
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ONLY 2 MONTHS after I got the hero. I wonder if it will have a nice subsidized price?
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It had better. Too broke for a $500 price point.
If that was the case, at least it would make the N1/Supersonic decision easy.
the nexus will be my next upgrade come late this summer then.
this news sucks... only because it makes the decision harder for me Either way, I can't do anything until October when my full rebate kicks in. I will never pay full price for one of these things!
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I hated my Hero up until a 2.1 rom I put on there.....I'm interested in a faster phone to remind me of my iPhone (LOL). I will get whichever is cheapest
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My stock hero was faster than my iPhone 3G and now that Im running 2.1 it's pretty similar in speed to all the 3Gs' I've used.
ill be getting the super sonic...why you ask
snapdragon
4g built in
bigger, higher res screen
Hrm...better list this hero now eh?
I'm not sure if this is good or bad.
http://www.businessinsider.com/att-buys-t-mobile-2011-3
On one side I think it's great because it'll allow AT&T to better compete with Verizon and hopefully bring down prices. Right now Verizon has a huge hold on customers because of their fantastic coverage, but after this move AT&T won't be too far behind- maybe even a little ahead.
On the other side it's lowering the number of big players, so it's possible AT&T and Verizon with both decide to jack up their rates together instead of better competing for prices.
No offense but look around for the other 15+ topics about this.
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I jumped ship at the right time. I couldn't be happier with the service. Never a dropped call, fast consistent data. Att was charging me the same price for what Verizon is and Verizon simply just offers more. I was with att for six years and finally had it. When I called they didn't even want to keep me. I think this is going to push some long time customers on both sides to leave and find a different provider.
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Its good and bad.
The Bad:
ATT monopoly has just grown even bigger than it was before.
(from experience) With each take over it does, service quality gets worse
Higher prices on little service
The Good:
More towers
Now has a wider spectrum (frequency 1700 & 2100)
Now tmobile and att devices will truly be interchangeable.
I was going to move to tmoble on the 15th of may when att cuts my service due to me being on the legacy (mmode) network. That sux cause now they are one in the same. Thats BS and Verizon sux in my area as well as Sprint. The two best were... believe it or not Att and T-mobile.
That exact topic is why im typing this from a droid x kb on my dinc. I hate at&t. I hate what they do to thier customers, i especially hate the fact they raped what little sanity the gsm market had in it. T mobile. Once i heard about the buyout i called one of my buddies at verizon and he set me up. Its not all bad. Im on verizon now. No at&t for me.
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To be fair, this is all speculation at this point. It will be quite some time before we find out if AT&T will even be allowed to acquire T-mobile.
Its not speculation, att world never come out with this news if it was not a pretty sure deal. Yes, they do have some hurdles to jump, but I can guarantee att has been talking to various government regulators for quite some time so none of this is a surprise to anyone but us who are on the outside. Unfortunately for tmo customers like me I'll be dealing with the horrible customer service, limited internet, and higher prices that att has to offer in a few months
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Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
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Eff it. Big Red just needs to buy out AT&T.
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That would be one hell of a monopoly.
I think its good and bad. The bad now people have only one really ****ty service provider to choose from. The good maybe at&t will realize we need to fix some **** and might actually be something that others can say hey at&t is good. Now that verizon has the iphone at&t has only one edge and thats the atrix. However i guarantee you it wont be long until htc releases an atrix like product on big red.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/03/sprin...rom-apple-launching-the-iphone-5-exclusively/
Well, this is interesting... Just wanted to see what everybody thought. I'm scratching my head about it, considering the following thoughts:
- WiMAX?
- It is rumored to only be exclusive until Q1 next year when AT&T/Verizon will get LTE iPhones
- $20 billion invested to guarantee the purchase of 30.1 million iPhones over 4 years.
- I don't think Sprint can bet the house on something like this.
Just trying to wrap my head around it and wanted some other educated opinions...
No way that would happen
As much as I've been considering switching to the iPhone on Sprint when I could, if this is true I think I'd rather they'd dropped that $20B into the network.
I also read that the reveal of the iphone 5 tomorrow will be highly unlikely because there were no leaks whats so ever of this phone. In the past, every new iphone had a leak right before the reveal, but since the reveal is tomorrow and since the hardware specs points to a 4S rather than a new iphone, i think it's gonna be a while till we hear about the iphone 5.
that would be nice if sprint payed out to get an exclusive iphone 5 for a couple of months, but i think its unlikely. The whole $20b story, sadly, is true.
I almost think it has some validity considering the "Operation Leapfrog" rumor that was floating around recently. Having a WiMAX iPhone 5 exclusive with unlimited data at $79.99 for 6 months would yield some pretty significant sales for them, but until they roll out that EVDO rev. B/1X advanced network that was rumored, I think the iPhone would rape Sprint's 3G network the same way the AT&T's EDGE network.
So is this an apple forum or a evo forum
The iphone 5 is just another way apple is ripping people off.
Actually, we were more talking Sprint's business plans, but go ahead and troll it up if that's the only intelligent thought you can put into this thread. Kthnxbye
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Dump in 20b on one phone yet post quarterly losses year after year.....something don't make sense here. Besides betting on one phone to save you as sprint has done numerous times, ie: palm pre. Lol
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I really hope this not true... I know that sprint is kinda low when it comes to available cash but to shell out 20B* to carry an exclusive phone when their network has some areas where it could be improved sounds more like an impulsive decision instead of a well thought one. Investment-wise it might look like the push Sprint needs to get customers to their network (also because of they can use the shiny phone with unlimited data) but seems high risk.
*I am aware this is not a $20B cash-now type of deal... more like a sales agreement but still means that Sprint must dedicate more resources like advertising and training to encourage the sale of the Apple devices instead of any other.
Well I have to believe that Dan Hesse and the board are thinking that they need new subscribers (contract, not prepay) to start generating revenue so they can start upgrading their network. If the iPhone launches and cripples their network, it could possibly be the deathblow that finally ends it all. Or this could be a huge deal for them that finally gives them the kick in the shorts they need to realize their network is their Achilles' heel and actually fix it.
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As much as I've been considering switching to the iPhone on Sprint when I could, if this is true I think I'd rather they'd dropped that $20B into the network.
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Great post! put the money into the network. they didnt need exclusivity as they still offer the best value of the 3. They could of still released the iphone and applied that investment towards the network. Now they will bring on a great device, without the data network to back it up. People will say it sucks and it will fail. Bad move sprint. Unless Hesse has something else up their sleeves. who knows.
if the iphone comes to sprint tomorrow im leaving to tmobile's new $30 unlimited data/text plan, im not going to deal with sprint's ****ty 3g speeds because their network is poorly maintained and they wont invest in it.
I kinda figured the iPhone 5 would be sprint's first LTE offering, well this just got interesting, I wonder what the 4G plan is Sprint is working on, u don't set those types of sales goals to announce the device is going to be out dated before it is released.
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I kinda figured the iPhone 5 would be sprint's first LTE offering, well this just got interesting, I wonder what the 4G plan is Sprint is working on, u don't set those types of sales goals to announce the device is going to be out dated before it is released.
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Heard from a Sprint guy they'll make the Wimax phones work on LTE somehow when Sprint launches LTE..using some type of converter. If that's possible....
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Heard from a Sprint guy they'll make the Wimax phones work on LTE somehow when Sprint launches LTE..using some type of converter. If that's possible....
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I'm hoping its possible because Sprint keeps rolling out these Wimax capable phones, and if they are starting LTE in 2012, they are gonna have a bunch of pissed off people stuck in 2 year contracts with ****ty Wimax 4g. It would be a slap in the face to lock someone in just to say o by the way were switching our 4G source, deal with it.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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I'd rather wait for lte on Sprint. Wimax is pathetic, signal is flaky and coverage is down right horrible. And to top it off, bringing the iPhone to a crippled network could be the demise of Sprint. I know people are saying 3g has improved, but I have yet to see any changes. I've maxed out at 1500 down, but my normal speeds are around 300 kbps. Flooding this network with iPhones would be a terrible thing to do. Sprint should focus on network structure and leave the iphone to the data capping companies.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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That seems to be the rumor mill online, the listed report states that Verizon and ATT will get the iPhone 4s and then get the i5 in 2012. Sprint gets the i5 with 4g as an exclusive phone. This will definitely boost their sales this year and now I see why they are getting rid of premier plans and changing things around so when the the next version of the phone comes out you can't upgrade in one year and will be stuck paying full price for to upgrade.
So looks like no i5 announced today.
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Apple did not announce a completely new phone, just a redesign of an old one....
Sorry, kids, there’s no iPhone 5 this year. Instead,
Apple will start selling on Oct. 14 the iPhone 4S.
It has the same look and feel of the current iPhone 4,
but has updated internals. It uses the same A5 processor as the iPad 2,
has a full gigabyte of RAM and sports improved graphics capabilities.
It also has an updated, 8-megapixel camera with a resolution of 3,264-by-2,448. It also will record 1080p HD video with image stabilization.
• Yes, Sprint is getting the iPhone 4S, along with AT&T and Verizon. T-Mobile is not. If you listen carefully, you can hear T-Mobile executives whimpering quietly in the corner.
Dwight Silverman
I'm extremely disappointed sprint won't be getting the nexus 4. Whether that is the carriers fault or googles, it sucks royally. I'm stuck in a contract and have 5 business lines, so its not like I can easily jump to another carrier any time soon. What do you guys think??
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I think LTE should be open and there needs to be a global standard. All these fragmented LTE networks is a farce.
As for CDMA...lets face it. Its not a global standard, and therefore open devices are not friendly with such things.
Where's the proof that says it won't get it? Sprint got the nexus s and galaxy nexus so I would think it might get the nexus 4.
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It takes time we can't say that for sure probably will get it
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Where's the proof that says it won't get it? Sprint got the nexus s and galaxy nexus so I would think it might get the nexus 4.
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LOL...Google more or less said it won't get it
Yeah, they've already confirmed no LTE this year, so I doubt they'd bother with CDMA.
Oh well. Contractless GSM really is the way to go.
I ain't even mad. Once my contract is up I'm moving to no contract.
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I think LTE should be open and there needs to be a global standard. All these fragmented LTE networks is a farce.
As for CDMA...lets face it. Its not a global standard, and therefore open devices are not friendly with such things.
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this
My plan: run up roaming data and hope they catch on and get out ETF free and sell my gnex if they allow me to keep it.
Worst case scenario is I get Verizon speeds
Whoa there! Hold up a minute. Google didnt say anything about Sprint not getting the Nexus 4. What they said is first they concentrate on producing phones for open standards and the carriers that use them (more or less). Since Sprint uses cdma instead of gsm, they just arent in the first batch of releases - and neither is Verizon as they too are cdma. I guarantee this will play out almost the exact same way the Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus S for Sprint did - they wont have it this fall, but will start carrying it next spring. This is just the way Nexus devices play out for Sprint, unfortunately.
There are certainly enough reasons to leave Sprint (I plan to go back to T-Mobile personally because Sprints coverage is poor in every area I've tried), but the Nexus 4 isnt one of them. They will get it, you just have to have a few more months of patience than the gsm folks do.
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Whoa there! Hold up a minute. Google didnt say anything about Sprint not getting the Nexus 4. What they said is first they concentrate on producing phones for open standards and the carriers that use them (more or less). Since Sprint uses cdma instead of gsm, they just arent in the first batch of releases - and neither is Verizon as they too are cdma. I guarantee this will play out almost the exact same way the Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus S for Sprint did - they wont have it this fall, but will start carrying it next spring. This is just the way Nexus devices play out for Sprint, unfortunately.
There are certainly enough reasons to leave Sprint (I plan to go back to T-Mobile personally because Sprints coverage is poor in every area I've tried), but the Nexus 4 isnt one of them. They will get it, you just have to have a few more months of patience than the gsm folks do.
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You do, huh?
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Whoa there! Hold up a minute. Google didnt say anything about Sprint not getting the Nexus 4. What they said is first they concentrate on producing phones for open standards and the carriers that use them (more or less). Since Sprint uses cdma instead of gsm, they just arent in the first batch of releases - and neither is Verizon as they too are cdma. I guarantee this will play out almost the exact same way the Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus S for Sprint did - they wont have it this fall, but will start carrying it next spring. This is just the way Nexus devices play out for Sprint, unfortunately.
There are certainly enough reasons to leave Sprint (I plan to go back to T-Mobile personally because Sprints coverage is poor in every area I've tried), but the Nexus 4 isnt one of them. They will get it, you just have to have a few more months of patience than the gsm folks do.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
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Whoa there! Hold up a minute. Google didnt say anything about Sprint not getting the Nexus 4. What they said is first they concentrate on producing phones for open standards and the carriers that use them (more or less). Since Sprint uses cdma instead of gsm, they just arent in the first batch of releases - and neither is Verizon as they too are cdma. I guarantee this will play out almost the exact same way the Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus S for Sprint did - they wont have it this fall, but will start carrying it next spring. This is just the way Nexus devices play out for Sprint, unfortunately.
There are certainly enough reasons to leave Sprint (I plan to go back to T-Mobile personally because Sprints coverage is poor in every area I've tried), but the Nexus 4 isnt one of them. They will get it, you just have to have a few more months of patience than the gsm folks do.
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If they wait till spring, they will have the Samsung Galaxy S 4 to compete with... may be a hard sell...
I hate CDMA networks. 1 year left and I'm out!
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I was thinking about getting this device until I found out that it wouldn't work on Sprint.
Sprint like always will be late to the party. Same with the nexus S 4G and the G-Nex...hold tight, well get some Nexus 4 love...hopefully with bumped storage since itll no doubt be thicker than the GSM version maybe by spring time?
globen said:
I'm extremely disappointed sprint won't be getting the nexus 4. Whether that is the carriers fault or googles, it sucks royally. I'm stuck in a contract and have 5 business lines, so its not like I can easily jump to another carrier any time soon. What do you guys think??
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Sorry but why would anyone care if you choose to buy it or not?
ynrozturk said:
Sorry but why would anyone care if you choose to buy it or not?
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I'm not asking anyone to be sorryor to care. As the title of the thread states, "are you mad" or disappointed if your in a situation like myself. Seeing your from turkey why the hell would you even comment? Unless you have sprint over their. Lol
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Ok. Most of the team's and members in this community or on xda either know me or have least seen my name. Whether that is my perception or a fact I am hoping you understand the spirit behind this post.
Foe the past 2 years I have either used a vzw gnex or vzw gs3. I loved the support that the gnex had and the almost google experiance of the galaxy nexus.
One thing I always noticed was the amount of roms that the gsm community had over gnex. It became understood that while many devs and teams tried support both only a hand full or two kept with it. the ones that did were very generous and I am grateful f or all your work and time!!!?
So when i was consideringmy next phone it seemed that a gsm phone would be the way to go to get access to the most devs talent.
So I told vzw to go skip!!!$$$$&&:;;;
Now I broke my contract, paid the fee and signed up with tmobile. Now I have this beast of a phone and the first half dozen aosp roms are built but for verizon not a gsm variant,
I am shocked how the switch happened and fast. I am not complaining just wanted to see the community way in on this. Obviously the development is picking up and might balance out. I also am aware that vzw variant came out earlier in US, however over seas gsm g2's have been out for just as long or longer than vzw.
So please give me your thoughts,
Thanks again to all tje devs and teams no matter if u are currently supporting our not!!!!!
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I had the VZW GNex for almost 2 years and had it unlocked and rooted on day 1. I can't speak to the number of GSM ROMs available, but there was certainly no shortage of development for the LTE variant. I had 4.3 on it 6 months ago. The G2 just got that yesterday...
Just my opinion, but the root-head needs to consider WAY more than past developer support when deciding on a new device. Device popularity fuels development. Like it or not, VZW phones tend to sway the market pretty heavily. The VZW variant of a given device is bound to be one of the most numerous on the planet. Add to that the fact that the previous VZW Nexus devices started falling off contract last month and you have all those people looking to move forward...and likely intending to stay with VZW.
Last I read, The Nexus 5 wasn't likely to be seen any time soom on VZW...but the big brother (the G2) is already out. That puts the VZW G2 in the bulls eye for hot development.
IMHO...
Thanks for your opinion!
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The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
Toro support was good but compared to gsm thread not even close. The network coverage here is better for my home and work. At work 3g sometimes with vzw or nada. Which kills battery. T-Mobile 4g all day, so there is no universal better, that depends on your location. So i had the best network with no data at work all day.
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fr4nk1yn said:
The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
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You mean substandard for where you work/live/play, right? I don't think you'd be dumb enough to suggest that T-Mobile is substandard for everyone, right? Right? I mean, I have 3 lines, unlimited everything, with 30Mbps LTE everywhere that I work/live/play, and I pay 140 dollars a month. I always have service, I always have data, and I don't drop phonecalls. Is that considered substandard to you?
Let me give you a pro tip, that you should follow at all times. Network service is location dependent. I completely understand the need to justify paying 250 dollars for 3 phones with limited data, etc, on VZW by saying at least the network is great, but lets face it. The vast, vast majority of people don't wander too far from home that often. The vast majority of people are not traveling the countryside from coast to coast all year long, and they don't give a rat's behind that bumstick Idaho has LTE coverage on the VZW map. I used to think I needed VZW, I'm glad I broke the spell that they hold over their customers about how every other network is garbage, because it's simply not true.