I have a plan to possibly use my hd2 as a covert camera recording video onto an external hard drive, does anyone know if this would work? Theoretically it seems straight forward but on connecting my USB hard drive with a micro to usb otg cable the hard drive doesn't start up like it does when connected to my nexus. Is this simply because I need some software/ app that makes it recognise it or does the hardware simply not support this?
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chrisman99 said:
I have a plan to possibly use my hd2 as a covert camera recording video onto an external hard drive, does anyone know if this would work? Theoretically it seems straight forward but on connecting my USB hard drive with a micro to usb otg cable the hard drive doesn't start up like it does when connected to my nexus. Is this simply because I need some software/ app that makes it recognise it or does the hardware simply not support this?
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Would depend on OS running on phone and filesystem of hard drive.
With android it should be fine if you use rick's usb host kernel and the hard drive is powered externally, with the only issue being that the phone won't charge until you change to another kernel (or rom).
There is probably also a way for the video footage to be saved to the hard drive while being attached to a laptop using a file share or something similar.
At the moment I think its just on stock windows 6.5. So is this not compatible? What would be best to use, I've never really had a lot of luck with android rooms on it stability wise. Would I also be able to charge the phone from the USB cable as it would eventually just run down.
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I'm no technician or anything, but wouldn't the hard drive need external power? OTG power from HD2? I don't think that would be enough for a hard drive.
You can try a powered USB hub. Or, what about a 64GB sd card?
Yeah the hard drive has got a power cable that I intended to use. You need to. Was trying make this work from what I already had, not to buy another SD card
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Marvlesz said:
I'm no technician or anything, but wouldn't the hard drive need external power? OTG power from HD2? I don't think that would be enough for a hard drive.
You can try a powered USB hub. Or, what about a 64GB sd card?
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Hello guys,
I remember a thread by Cotulla who worked on this for WM 6.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224652
Also the charging problem is solved but one has to do a bit of handicraft work.
Best regards
Getrid …
HypoTurtle said:
Would depend on OS running on phone and filesystem of hard drive.
With android it should be fine if you use rick's usb host kernel and the hard drive is powered externally, with the only issue being that the phone won't charge until you change to another kernel (or rom).
There is probably also a way for the video footage to be saved to the hard drive while being attached to a laptop using a file share or something similar.
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Hi all
I've ordered a otg cable.
Just wondering when it comes can I plug a USB DVD drive into it?
Understand that I may be only able to use data DVDs due to software restrictions.
but if it was possible and someone made the software. Would be epic.
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not sure but i will be willing to try when i get home from work. I use my otg cable for games but if it could do dvd drives to that would be great. I use a usb dvd burner for my laptop so i will try and get back to u unless someone des before me.
I dont see why it would be a problem. So long as the the filesystem is supported. Software support maybe a diffrent story (cdfs).
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
Any news?
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I just tried using an LG external DVD Burner. It powers up, but can't be read. Similarly to a thumb drive or external hard drive.
I would guess that this is all connected to the microSD issue where google can't figure out how to elegantly support external storage.
Hi,
I started a related topic about this issue too on this same forum, here:
USB DVD/CD drives - CDFS and UDF Filesystems through OTG (Galaxy SII) - xda-developers
Hey,
I think there ist a missing Kernel Module so the cd oder dvd drive don't work. Also when anybody compile the module it should work.
But I havn't not the experience to compile the Kernel module cdrom.
Great schreibnix
Hey guys,
I have a 16gb Nexus 10, a 128gb SanDisk USB flash drive, a micoUSB to female USB OTG converter, using StickMount. Running Task650's latest AOKP release.
I had placed two mkv bluray rips on the USB flash drive and with the converter and StickMount, I was able to play both movies using BSPlayer. No lags. No frame rate drops. It was a thing of beauty. Before I got it to work, I had to NTFS format the flash drive.
Anyways, today I added a few avi movies and a bunch of comic books, figured it was going to work the same. Now I'm not even able to play the movies that played. The USB flash folder shows empty when I'd browse to it using Root Explorer.
Superuser permission looks good. I've tried rebooting, clearing cache, combinations of folders and different file types.
I was wondering if anyone uses StickMount or does what I'm trying to do and can recommend a possible fix? Or a different method?
Thanks dudes!
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I used my OTG today with a NTFS flash drive to copy some files over (4+ GB) aaaannd it crashed the first time (used CM's file manager), hard reboot, reinserted the flash drive, used ES this time, worked flawlessly. No extra app for mounting here.
What about issuing the mount command yourself on the terminal?
look at kmsg (kernel output) right after you connect your device, it will give you the vold location of the device/partition and then issue the mount command to mount the ntfs partition to some folder you created before.
Also, the usb disk, it has its own power source, right? just checking.
Have you tried another filesystem i.e. ext4?
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I used my OTG today with a NTFS flash drive to copy some files over (4+ GB) aaaannd it crashed the first time (used CM's file manager), hard reboot, reinserted the flash drive, used ES this time, worked flawlessly. No extra app for mounting here.
What about issuing the mount command yourself on the terminal?
look at kmsg (kernel output) right after you connect your device, it will give you the vold location of the device/partition and then issue the mount command to mount the ntfs partition to some folder you created before.
Also, the usb disk, it has its own power source, right? just checking.
Have you tried another filesystem i.e. ext4?
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Hey! Thanks for the reply!
I just flashed the latest ParanoidAndroid (3.6) and going to run a few different tests today. Hopefully I'll see something different.
I don't understand the whole mount command thing. Admitted beyond my scope of Android expertise. Can you elaborate? Perhaps link me?
When I plug in my 128GB SanDisk Cruzer, which doesn't require a power source, StickMount will have something pop up and it will give me a location of where the flash drive populates. I can find the folder, but it'll always show empty.
I can from eFAT32 formatting to NTFS before it worked, only that once. Can you explain a bit more on another file system?
You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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bruce7373 said:
You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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Thanks for this dude! I'm going to try all this sh** out this weekend. Will report back for posterity.
And I'm assuming you know I meant "USB OTG Helper"...
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And I'm assuming you know I meant "USB OTG Helper"...
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Haha! Yup buddy!
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Hey guys,
I have a 16gb Nexus 10, a 128gb SanDisk USB flash drive, a micoUSB to female USB OTG converter, using StickMount. Running Task650's latest AOKP release.
I had placed two mkv bluray rips on the USB flash drive and with the converter and StickMount, I was able to play both movies using BSPlayer. No lags. No frame rate drops. It was a thing of beauty. Before I got it to work, I had to NTFS format the flash drive.
Anyways, today I added a few avi movies and a bunch of comic books, figured it was going to work the same. Now I'm not even able to play the movies that played. The USB flash folder shows empty when I'd browse to it using Root Explorer.
Superuser permission looks good. I've tried rebooting, clearing cache, combinations of folders and different file types.
I was wondering if anyone uses StickMount or does what I'm trying to do and can recommend a possible fix? Or a different method?
Thanks dudes!
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Hi! This is very strange to me. I've been using stickmount+otg+usb disk for a few months now on rooted Nexus 7 and form recently on XT925 aswell.
Never had any problem. My usb drives are Kingston DataTraveler 64GB Elite 3.0 NTFS and two cheap 4GB noname FAT32.
Tried now your scenario with comics and videos and still works fine.
I'm using Total Commander for browsing. Try it..
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You might try USB ORG Helper app as an alternative. I've had occasion where files could be read in that when they couldn't in Stockmount. Don't ask me why.
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Hey! Finally got around to testing everything out this weekend.
So..
The Nexus 10 running Task650's AOKP: StickMount only worked once and never again. OTG Helper didn't work at all.
The Nexus 10 running ParanoidAndroid: StickMount didn't work, but OTG Helper worked like a charm. And not just once. I was able to get it working consistently.
I wasn't able to have it mount without any of the above apps. Even with different file exploring apps.
So, at least for me, USB OTG Helper is the only thing that worked! The Pro version of the app is totally worth it too.
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Hey! Finally got around to testing everything out this weekend.
So..
The Nexus 10 running Task650's AOKP: StickMount only worked once and never again. OTG Helper didn't work at all.
The Nexus 10 running ParanoidAndroid: StickMount didn't work, but OTG Helper worked like a charm. And not just once. I was able to get it working consistently.
I wasn't able to have it mount without any of the above apps. Even with different file exploring apps.
So, at least for me, USB OTG Helper is the only thing that worked! The Pro version of the app is totally worth it too.
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Great. I agree. The only problem I couldn't solve was trying to use a micro sd card. I bought a USB card reader, plugged it into the OTG cable. I couldn't get OTG Helper to even mount it; Stickmount did, but couldn't read the files. I tried NTFS, FAT, FAT32, even xFAT. Plugged the adapter into a USB port on my desktop and the files were available, no problem.
If you have one of these adapters, try to see if you can get it to work. Other people have, so I'm stumped.
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Great. I agree. The only problem I couldn't solve was trying to use a micro sd card. I bought a USB card reader, plugged it into the OTG cable. I couldn't get OTG Helper to even mount it; Stickmount did, but couldn't read the files. I tried NTFS, FAT, FAT32, even xFAT. Plugged the adapter into a USB port on my desktop and the files were available, no problem.
If you have one of these adapters, try to see if you can get it to work. Other people have, so I'm stumped.
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Hello! Buy this! It's awesome, works and it costs around $10...
http://76.my/Malaysia/[email protected]
I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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Keep it cheap. Check it.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=190807960619
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I'll check it out, thanks. The one I bought had a regular USB connector (PC type, flat) that I plugged into the OTG cable. I didn't know they made readers with micro USB connectors. Good to know. :thumbup:
Did you buy it online?
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Yes I got it online! I bought this one : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-angled...ro-USB-Host-OTG-HUB-CARD-READER-/151014270145
Just buy it! And don't worry. It's awesome and is $8 now!!! :good::good::good:
Read the description on linked page .. it says : ALSO CAN USE FOR ALL MICRO USB OTG DEVICE!!!
I tried some other SD/OTGHUB devices like this (my friends have some) but they only work ond a handful of devices.
I really recommend this!
Cheers:victory:
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Hey! Thanks for the reply!
I just flashed the latest ParanoidAndroid (3.6) and going to run a few different tests today. Hopefully I'll see something different.
I don't understand the whole mount command thing. Admitted beyond my scope of Android expertise. Can you elaborate? Perhaps link me?
When I plug in my 128GB SanDisk Cruzer, which doesn't require a power source, StickMount will have something pop up and it will give me a location of where the flash drive populates. I can find the folder, but it'll always show empty.
I can from eFAT32 formatting to NTFS before it worked, only that once. Can you explain a bit more on another file system?
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Hi, I have been experiencing a similar issue using stickmount and a 32 GB usb flash drive. I can mount smaller drives using stickmount, but the files on the 32Gb drive don't show up using a file explorer. I don't have this issue using OTG helper. I am running stock JB 4.2.2.
Max amount read?
What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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I don't know about the max amounts, but I have a 128GB SanDisk flash drive and it works like a charm. I just ordered a 1TB WD portable external hard drive. First thing I'll be testing on that thing is OTG capabilities. Will report back fo sho!
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What (if any) is the maximum amount of GB the Nexus 10 can read using the OTG cable?
Thanks!
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I successfully could R/W to NTFS and ext2,3,4 formated 500GB self powered USB drive using an OTG cable and USB OTG Helper with stock rooted 4.2.2.
I think the limit is not OTG specific but file format, so you likely can use a self powered 3TB drive if you so wish.
So,
I recently purchased a 1TB WD My Passport, USB powered external hard drive. I was kind of hoping that I would be able to mount this just like my USB flash drive. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to. From what I hear, it isn't possible because not enough power gets to it from the Nexus. When I plug in the HHD, the light comes on and I can hear it spin on. USBHelper will recognize it and ask you to perform an action, but then it'll say nothing is mounted. Root Explorer will have an extra folder appear, but the contents will be completely empty.
I was wondering if anyone else has tested this on another ROM or configuration? Is it in fact true that not enough power gets to it? If that is true, would plugging the Nexus into a power source help with powering up the external hard drive? Or would the HHD require it's own direct power source?
I was thinking about getting a splitter of some kind to test this out.
Well I know its been talked about in the other threads of the possibilities. So now since we have the devices here, are proceeding with unlocking and rooting the devices. Has anyone had luck?
Sadly I do not have a OTG cable yet to test this but at least wanted to start somewhere.
Edit: Yes it is, see post below for link. Device needs to be rooted for it to work!
Says he was able, after root, to mount 2 drives simultaneously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43991406&postcount=9
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Says he was able, after root, to mount 2 drives simultaneously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43991406&postcount=9
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Brilliant! Thanks
Has anyone try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
It doesn't require root so it should be good for stock users.
I can confirm a stock non rooted N7 I threw in a USB flash drive and read files and played a movie real quick earlier just to see if it all worked, didn't try much more then that but can try some more tomorrow. Still busy transferring and reinstalling apps from old N7.
I cannot get Nexus Media Importer to work on stock. It reports all memory sticks as protected.
I have a non rooted stock nexus 7 2013. The media importer doesn't work for me also.
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Now rooted using Stickmount, still not working. The drive can be seen but it seems only small files can be viewed, and you can't copy them or do anything with them. Non of my, larger, movie files show up.
I was able to copy a 3GB movie file from a flashdrive to the onboard memory with no issues. Maybe try a powered USB hub? I didn't have to in this case but it might help.
I tried to read an external hard drive and had to use a powered USB hub to even have it mount. Alas, couldn't read anything. Don't know if it's because the hard drive was formatted NTFS or because it was 750GB.
USB OTG Helper works for me. It also supports NTFS drives.
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Can anyone tell if it's possible to to use OTG while wireless charging the device?
Need this for my car dashboard tablet replacement.
I think the problem with that would be that it would drain after than it charges. Qi charging doesn't have great amperage.
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USB OTG Helper works for me. It also supports NTFS drives.
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works for me as well, I am wondering if there will be a root flash-able mod like the original N7 had to turn OTG on.
Why does Google not allow OTG to be active out of box? Is the lure of trying force people into using the cloud that strong? Clouds drain more battery compared to local content and wifi connections do not have 100% coverage like local does.
The reality is the reason this device is priced at near break-even pricing IS the cloud, so this is why there is no SD slot or full OTG, out of box. Most people do not mod, so most people will be part of their cloud control strategy. I would rather pay $50 more and let Google make a profit on the device, that way I could have a micro sd slot and OTG out of box. Curse Google and their quest for content control and data mining! :silly:
Earlier I said it wasn't working, without knowingly changing anything both Stickmount and Nexus Media Importer now work. I am rooted and perhaps Stickmount is making NMI work.
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USB OTG Helper works for me. It also supports NTFS drives.
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Stick Mount works 100% fine for me, just watched a movie from my thumb drive. I am stock+Root. Open file system and on SD card look at the USB Storage folder if you are unfamiliar with Stick Root.
Is otg ok with usb pen drive or 2.5 hard disk without power supply?
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Is otg ok with usb pen drive or 2.5 hard disk without power supply?
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Yes and I also used it with a USB External HD and it worked fine there, too.
I had issues with OTG on my first N7 2013. It was a flaky connection and would go into a connect/disconnect loop and then just stop all together. I returned it and picked up a different. That one seems to work fine.
Stock, not rooted, and using Nexus Media Importer.
Some people may want to try rebooting their N7 as well.... If you look at the NMI app in the Play Store the developer knows there are a few issues with Android 4.3 when first using the app.
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Yes and I also used it with a USB External HD and it worked fine there, too.
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Thank you very much!! I love OTG features...
This new Nexus 7 has OTG support and also Slim port connection (for hdmi)...SUPER GOOGLE!!:good:
Hi. I'm considering buying an external hard disk to use with my Nexus 10. I have a USB memory stick which works fine with the USB OTG cable I have, but need more capacity.
Will an external hard disk work with the Nexus 10 and a standard OTG cable, or would I need to power the hard disk for it to work? ie. Would I need to get a 'Y cable' or use another power cable for it to work? Or does it depend on the hard disk?
I've searched, but the answers I've found conflict or are vague as to whether external power is required.
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USB is USB, as far as the device is concerned. If it can power the memory stick, it should be able to power the drive (as long as it is if the portable variety (I.e. the drive itself requires a power cable), although you probably could figure that part out yourself.
I haven't tried this myself, of course, but I can't foresee any problems. It should work without any problems!
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good luck
I tried my otg cable with powered and non powered hard drives and it doesn't reed any data even if it recognises the drives. It's a known issue with the nexus 10. There is an app called Nexus Media Importer which should solve all problems for all nexus devices connected to external memories but i havent tried it. I suggest you to try somehow before buying.
I'm getting the impression that 'it depends'. Some say it works, some say it doesn't. It may even depend on the hardware (how much power it needs). Just hoped someone could draw on personal experience to advise rather than me having to take a leap of faith (buy one and hope for the best).
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Hello XDA!
I need to record a 9 Hour 1080p Timelapse with my XPERIA T. Now, storage problem. My XPERIA T has a SD limitation of 32GB.
Connecting a 80GB IDE hard drive via a IDE to USB convertor, and then connect that USB to my phone, via a USB OTG cable that supports charging the phone, and then record that movie directly to the HDD. Sounds crazy, doesnt it? But is is possible?
Cheers xD
Crazy ideas always win
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Seems to be very doable.. But you may want "symlink" your camera folder onto the hdd. And another thing, you should use beefier usb power supply not the one that you get when you bought the phone. Something around 10watt or so like galaxy tab charger
Possible limitation:
Usually the otg driver only support fat32 partition so you may run into the 4gb file size limitation if the camera took the video in one file
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urra901109 said:
Seems to be very doable.. But you may want "symlink" your camera folder onto the hdd. And another thing, you should use beefier usb power supply not the one that you get when you bought the phone. Something around 10watt or so like galaxy tab charger
Possible limitation:
Usually the otg driver only support fat32 partition so you may run into the 4gb file size limitation if the camera took the video in one file
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Hmm, i might go exoerimenty and experiment on this one. But how does it normaly record to the SD with the 4gb limitation? Is there any?
Gala2 said:
Hmm, i might go exoerimenty and experiment on this one. But how does it normaly record to the SD with the 4gb limitation? Is there any?
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Fat32 system cannot store file bigger than 4gb, it wont be a problem if you are just taking thousands of picture and making it a video later on a pc. But if the phone record it straight as a video, you might face this problem.