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So im checking out the 2.2 on the evo i just updated at work and decided to turn on the hotspot. By some miracle it works!!! I just connected 2 blackberrys and a Ipad to the phone. I just actived the hotspot on my rooted 2.2 and it works as well. I know for a fact that niether phone has it on the plan
Try it with 4g and let us know if it works please.
I got the update last night and tried the 4G hotspot. It does not work on Stock now.
Gives the same PCS login error 3G did before 2.2.
Lyiondr said:
I got the update last night and tried the 4G hotspot. It does not work on Stock now.
Gives the same PCS login error 3G did before 2.2.
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Yea i was expecting the same thing when i turned it on. But it works. i thought it was because of my rom but then updated the stores phone and i got the same results
That's great. I may not need to root, then.
They're going to charge you for it secretly.
Figure out how you did it, or backup the data for Sprint's Hotspot app with Titanium and post it here.
Plancy said:
They're going to charge you for it secretly.
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This is what I'm thinking....but not so secretly.
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This is what I'm thinking....but not so secretly.
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I'll ask I guess.
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They're going to charge you for it secretly.
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Im on the phone with Sprints NSS to see if its to good to be true.
My regional said to enjoy it while you can
i recall an article or press release that said that Sprint would prorate this. I will see what i can dig up for you guys
Ok so I'm pretty sure hotspot over 3g is free, they are only charging for hotspot over 4g. All this has been said in a few threads I have read, Just checked mine and 3g works but 4g doesn't. One of the threads that mentions this was Ava's 2.2 thread, I'm guessin he is correct, but don't quote me!!! Maybe try it a little and see if they do charge you first.
That would be very odd. They haven't been charging for hotspot over 4G because they couldn't prevent it, until now.
With 2.2 they added the ability to verify if you are signed up for the service on 4G.
Before the update today I could not use 3G hotspot but I could use it on 4G.
Now I cannot use it on either network without receiving the same login error.
Wait, so far in this thread it sounds like:
3G wi-fi is free
4G is not, either you cannot log in or they will charge/prorate it for you.
Has anyone else been able to verify anything? If anyone talks to a Sprint rep (I'm at work, or else I'd be on the phone asking) post their name so we can say they are the ones who told us this was true... so hopefully they'll tell us the truth or else look like a ****.
"____, why did we get 42090589 calls saying YOU said mobile hotspot was free over 3G/4G???"
Well remember guys, the leaked documents did say they were enabling 4g mac id verification, which would prevent 4g hotspot use without the proper credentials (the $30 hotspot charge unlocks that).
Think about it; the big data hog is going to be through 4g, as the higher the bandwith, the more your probably going to download. On the other hand, 3g's data usage is probably far less than that of 4g because of it's download limits. Of course there's going to be even more usage when your tethered to another device, but it's not like it's going to be gigabytes of data per hour as you wouldn't even have the ability to do so on 3g as you would with 4g.
It would make sense for Sprint to charge those who use more data (alike tiers) and allow those that don't with the ability to at least share their connection with another device. It's a win-win situation; Sprint gets to make their customers happy by allowing 3g tethering while still being able to charge its most active users, and we the customers get 3g tethering (not really important to me since I've had tethering since I rooted ages ago lol).
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Well remember guys, the leaked documents did say they were enabling 4g mac id verification, which would prevent 4g hotspot use without the proper credentials (the $30 hotspot charge unlocks that).
Think about it; the big data hog is going to be through 4g, as the higher the bandwith, the more your probably going to download. On the other hand, 3g's data use is probably far less than that of 4g because of it's download limits. Of course there's going to be even more usage when your tethered to another device, but it's not like it's going to be gigabytes of data per hour as you wouldn't even have the ability to do so on 3g as you would with 4g.
It would make sense for Sprint to charge those who use more data (alike tiers) and allow those who don't the ability to at least share their connection with another device. It's a win-win situation; Sprint gets to make their customers happy by allowing 3g tethering while still being able to charge its most active users, and we the customers get 3g tethering (not really important to me since I've had tethering since I rooted ages ago lol).
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Makes sense to me, I was thinking that more people would be interested in tethering to 4G because of the speed is comparable (if not better) than DSL connections and slow (more like cheap) cable connections.
If this is the case, that's awesome, because the only reason I'd tether is to see a website that my phone had a hard time rendering (which should be nothing now) and to download something for the computer. And my city doesn't have 4G. But if I was in a 4G market, I'd still be happy with free 3G tethering.
I don't think you'll find too many people complaining, except those with non-Android devices. But that's their fault for not moving over to Android!
2 reps weren't sure, neither was their supervisor, we need a confirmation from a higher up.
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Makes sense to me, I was thinking that more people would be interested in tethering to 4G because of the speed is comparable (if not better) than DSL connections and slow (more like cheap) cable connections.
If this is the case, that's awesome, because the only reason I'd tether is to see a website that my phone had a hard time rendering (which should be nothing now) and to download something for the computer. And my city doesn't have 4G. But if I was in a 4G market, I'd still be happy with free 3G tethering.
I don't think you'll find too many people complaining, except those with non-Android devices. But that's their fault for not moving over to Android!
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Lol, bet you wish you lived in centex... It's amazing how they have 4g there but not where I live in phoenix which is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the u.s lol.
Good thing about 3g is that at least for me, I get pretty respectable speeds; usually about 2mb/s down and .5 up. With that I can still stream videos and download things faster than a snails pace.
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Lol, bet you wish you lived in centex... It's amazing how they have 4g there but not where I live in phoenix which is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the u.s lol.
Good thing about 3g is that at least for me, I get pretty respectable speeds; usually about 2mb/s down and .5 up. With that I can still stream videos and download things faster than a snails pace.
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How about now? Mine dropped 5 fold since a hard reset.
Hey, y'know, I've got a PERFECT solution to guarantee you get it for free:
Shut up and flash CM6.
Has anyone considered this?
I have AT&T and was wondering if it would be better to get a 2 year 4g hotspot from like Sprint (is it unlimited) and I could use it at home and take it with me to use on my xoom etc?
It's unlimited, but 4G on sprint doesn't do so hot indoors. Walls block 2.5ghz spectrum.
Also, it looks pretty likely that sprint will start to tier data levels soon.
I keep seeing the Mifi 4g hotspots available for like $300 with no contract. How does service work? Do you still need to activate it and pay the $50 a month with Verizon?
I guess it may be cheaper to pay the $$ and get a thunderbolt out of contract and use the 4G on that instead rather than the $300 for the mifi wifi hotspot huh
Why not wait till the Xoom has 4G and use it as a hotspot, unless you got the WIFI because you thought 4G would be useless!
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Why not wait till the Xoom has 4G and use it as a hotspot, unless you got the WIFI because you thought 4G would be useless!
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I got the Wifi because it was $200 cheaper and didnt want to pay for another data plan
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I got the Wifi because it was $200 cheaper and didnt want to pay for another data plan
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QFT
10 char.
DroidHam said:
I got the Wifi because it was $200 cheaper and didnt want to pay for another data plan
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I bought the 4g version and saved $200 by getting a $20 a month data plan (which I use about 750MB of). I will not have to upgrade my phone to 4g for tethering and spend another $200. I can also talk and surf the web/navigate at the same time, that statement sounds familiar!
It's about a wash depending on your needs.
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I bought the 4g version and saved $200 by getting a $20 a month data plan (which I use about 750MB of). I will not have to upgrade my phone to 4g for tethering and spend another $200. I can also talk and surf the web/navigate at the same time, that statement sounds familiar!
It's about a wash depending on your needs.
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Whats the point of 4g if your using 750mb?
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Whats the point of 4g if your using 750mb?
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It's all about speed not volume for me. I would not necessarily use more data because it's faster I would just get those tasks done quicker.
Now if I used as a hotspot I would needs a bigger plan.
As others have said, the Sprint 4G MiFi doesn't do well inside. The high mhz spectrum doesn't do well to penetrate walls. You very rarely get full bars inside in my experience.
It sounds good to try and use a 4G hotspot for your home internet, but once you start spreading out a single WiMax signal (less than 10mbps down, capped 1mbps up) to several people and/or devices, you're not going to be as comfortable as you would be with home cable internet.
Now, LTE might be another situation because the speeds are much higher than WiMax and it penetrates buildings better, but still you're relying on a wireless signal to come down and then be spread back out to the devices.
For people like me who play games, I don't see myself cutting the cable internet any time soon. Not to mention that I regularly use 75gb+ of internet every month. Don't think theres a single carrier (even Sprint) that would be okay with this.
Verizon is a big bag of irony when it comes to LTE and pricing.
They're promising fast speeds, which for most people means streaming video and audio, but their pricing is too expensive to do much media streaming.
If I had deep pockets, Verizon LTE as a mobile hotspot would be great. Sadly, I don't have deep pockets. I think Clear/Sprint are currently the best options at the moment.
I'm not sure if I'm even going to upgrade to LTE. 3G seems to do alright, and I'm worried that LTE will be a battery suck. Battery is more important to me than speed.
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I'm not sure if I'm even going to upgrade to LTE. 3G seems to do alright, and I'm worried that LTE will be a battery suck. Battery is more important to me than speed.
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LTE (and other 4G tech) is very much so a battery hog. There's no way that you can have that big jump in bandwidth and connection without affecting battery life until they expand the technology more (remember, the move from 2G to 3G was met with the same concerns).
I think anyone using an Evo 4G or Thunderbolt will quickly tell you how much WiMax or LTE is killing their battery.
ive got the mifi 3g/4g gadget and 4G and 3G work wonderfully inside the house in my experience. also ive tried it inside the company building and 4G works well.. it does help im in a major 4G city.. but the 4G works quite well indoors. it has about a 28-32 foot range so you could sit it near an external wall facing 4g coverage and be set.
i have used the novatel with a laptop, xoom, first gen ipod touch. definitely a good option. there is also the overdrive pro which has 4G verizon and att have the same mifi box also..
the key here is to make sure your primary location has ample supply of 4G and your set for unlimited. again the spees ive seen are quite nice.
and this is why people are introducing caps....
However, if you can stay under the cap....
FLAME ON!
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ive got the mifi 3g/4g gadget and 4G and 3G work wonderfully inside the house in my experience. also ive tried it inside the company building and 4G works well.. it does help im in a major 4G city.. but the 4G works quite well indoors. it has about a 28-32 foot range so you could sit it near an external wall facing 4g coverage and be set.
i have used the novatel with a laptop, xoom, first gen ipod touch. definitely a good option. there is also the overdrive pro which has 4G verizon and att have the same mifi box also..
the key here is to make sure your primary location has ample supply of 4G and your set for unlimited. again the spees ive seen are quite nice.
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Specifically Sprints 4G WiMax doesn't do well indoors, because of the specific spectrum it uses. Verizon, ATT, and Tmo use different tech and spectrum that has better building penetration...haha...i said penetration. But if you got it to work, cool.
yes mr. carpenter i understand your post and i do understand the cons of wimax inside buildings, hence why i said it works for me as im in a dense 4G area, so the two main places i frequent has 4G abundantly. it surely does fall off rather quickly inside structures however the results ive had are just superb, especially when its unlimited. sprints coming out with a 10gb plan this sunday and releasing new bundled plans so i should be able to get 10gb of 3G for 70 bux.
I've been using the Sprint Overdrive since last summer. Although I wouldn't recommend this particular device the 4G service itself is excellent. The Overdrive is plagued with well documented problems. When it actually connects and stays connected the service is fast and solid, as with the 4G service on my Epic. As for using WiMax 4G inside, I've found it needs to be positioned for optimal signal, I set mine on top of the refrigerator. I may eventually switch to the new MiFi unit, but I'm waiting to see how the reviewers feel about it first.
Better off rooting verizon's thunderbolt...
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and this is why people are introducing caps....
However, if you can stay under the cap....
FLAME ON!
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QFT...
Consumer: "but my unlimited plan gives me the RIGHT to download 300GB/s of data each month!"
Cellular Industry: "yeah right"
Data Caps.
I would personally thank iPhone users for abusing the snot out of AT&T's unlimited data plans for all of this.
I plan to use the Nexus 10 mostly at home on WIFI but would like the option of using it away from home, especially on holiday and cannot ever see me using it as a phone, so I just need Internet access.
I'm considering getting a MIFI which I can use when not at home and it will allow me to connect up to 5 devices and I can position the MIFI in the best place for reception whilst I use the devices where it is most comfortable. Also the reception on a MIFI seems better and you can add an antenna to improve it further.
I've tried using my phone as a hot spot on holiday but the reception indoors was not good enough.
So I'm planning to get the WIFI version and buy a MIFI for mobile use and not bother waiting for the 3g version to come out.
The difference in cost between the WIFI version plus MIFI and a 3G version is probably not much.
Has anyone else tried a MIFI + Antenna with an Android tablet and if so which one and how well did it perform?
Any reason to not just set up a phone as a mobile hotspot?
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Any reason to not just set up a phone as a mobile hotspot?
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The indoor reception on holiday was not good enough.
I don't want a 3g tablet so no waiting for me.
I have a 4g mobile hotspot that I can use when I need internet away from regular wifi.It is Verizon so is fast and works with everything instead of haveing several devices on a plan.It is so small I can stick it in a pocket if I needed to and have wifi anywhere on anything instead of just one device.
Unlimited LTE (w/Verizon) + FoxFi = WiFi version for me.
will it be a 3G version!?
Where have u seen that? im waiting for the 3G version as well.. its a must have to my needs :good:
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will it be a 3G version!?
Where have u seen that? im waiting for the 3G version as well.. its a must have to my needs :good:
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3G? what is this? Apple? Why not 4G?
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Unlimited LTE (w/Verizon) + FoxFi = WiFi version for me.
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Thanks for the FoxFi tip of which looks useful.
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Thanks for the FoxFi tip of which looks useful.
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No problem! Used it for the first time the other night and it worked great! I believe Sprint & AT&T have it blocked on the Play Store (if you use them). Here's the direct link to get around that http://foxfi.com/bin/
Also, WiFi mode does not work with 4.1 (except on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus). Hopefully they're working on a fix for that...
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The indoor reception on holiday was not good enough.
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So what makes you think you'd get any better reception with the Nexus 10 if your phone isn't getting reception either? IMHO, data plans on these devices are a complete and total scam/waste of money. Get the wifi version and tether on your phone. If you are grandfathered into VZW or have the T-Mo/Sprint Unlimited plans you are golden. ATT throttles so screw them.
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So what makes you think you'd get any better reception with the Nexus 10 if your phone isn't getting reception either? IMHO, data plans on these devices are a complete and total scam/waste of money. Get the wifi version and tether on your phone. If you are grandfathered into VZW or have the T-Mo/Sprint Unlimited plans you are golden. ATT throttles so screw them.
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When I was on holiday in my flat in Spain I had to take my Note One outside on a balcony to get 3g. So I'm hoping that a MIFI with an aerial option placed on the balcony will enable me to stay inside and get 3g.
Also I have a 7.7 and a laptop which also had difficulty getting 3g inside the flat and a MIFI might solve that too with no extra cost.
An MIFI solution will not cost any more than a 3g Nexus 10 which I would need to wait for and I don't want to use the Nexus 10 for making phone calls.
The other reason I like the MIFI solution is that I can go out with my phone and the Nexus 10, 7.7 and laptop can still be used by others in the flat.
I had the same dilemma with the TF101. Luckily I didn't wait for the 3G version in the end as it was released months later.
I'm very happy with a MiFi device. Its on a 30 day contract (1GB for £7 per month) and best of all my tablet isn't consuming extra power running a 3G aerial. I use it every day for 3 hours on the train and charge it every few days.
The signal is also far better then my S3 and S2. But I guess it's designed to keep a high speed data connection open at all times.
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But is there any information about a Nexus 10 with 3G/LTE capabilities???
Again, tether your 4G/LTE phone and connect via wifi for 4G speeds. If you are on an unlimited plan you'll have unlimited LTE going straight to it. If you are an unrooted phone learn to root and use FoxFi or install a custom rom with the wifi tethering baked in. If you have an iCrap it should already have the tethering option IIRC.
And why do you prefer that one
I prefer wifi since nowadays you can connect to wifi pretty much anywhere but if there's ever a time where I can't connect then I tether with my phone. And that's another reason too. For me I really only need one device with mobile data and that will always be my phone.
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I prefer wifi since nowadays you can connect to wifi pretty much anywhere but if there's ever a time where I can't connect then I tether with my phone. And that's another reason too. For me I really only need one device with mobile data and that will always be my phone.
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For me, tethering is a pain in the ass. haha I'll turn tethering on, then put my phone back in my pocket and forget about it. Then 3 hours later I pull my phone out of my pocket and oh, hey, look at that...my battery is at 5%. Whoops! hahaha
LTE tablets are very useful for me because a) you have instant connectivity anywhere and b) they have bigger antennas than phones do, which means they can pick up signals places where phones can't. If you take a lot of road trips like I do, that comes in handy more than you'd think it would.
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For me, tethering is a pain in the ass. haha I'll turn tethering on, then put my phone back in my pocket and forget about it. Then 3 hours later I pull my phone out of my pocket and oh, hey, look at that...my battery is at 5%. Whoops! hahaha
LTE tablets are very useful for me because a) you have instant connectivity anywhere and b) they have bigger antennas than phones do, which means they can pick up signals places where phones can't. If you take a lot of road trips like I do, that comes in handy more than you'd think it would.
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I hear you. That's why for me a portable charger is a must haha. But I do agree with you on LTE tablets. It would be much more convenient if I could connect anywhere without worrying about being in range to a wifi hotspot. If only data on tablets were free
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I hear you. That's why for me a portable charger is a must haha. But I do agree with you on LTE tablets. It would be much more convenient if I could connect anywhere without worrying about being in range to a wifi hotspot. If only data on tablets were free
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Yeah. Thankfully for me, it only costs me $10/month to add my tablet onto my existing smartphone data plan, so it's pretty cheap.
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Totally Data enabled version. And I'll tell you more if it wasn't for a wait I would of gotten one, but because it's still available I had to get 32GB version. Reason behind is this. Right now I have my i337 and this. If N7 had a sim I would of just dump my i337 and got my money back on N7 and then some. N7 can do whatever you want really, spec wise it's amazing for work or playing game or watching movies. Right now my phone is on thether at all times and I am using N7 mostly for everything. I even using Talkafone to make calls now. I don't know that sim slot make N7 a complete device I feel WiFi is everywhere now but Cellular service is everywhere'er. So WiFi<Data for me. And yes whatever you do. don't get 16GB version because you'll have like 9GB usable space and with 32 you get like 26GB .....remember no SDcard get 32GB
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For me, tethering is a pain in the ass. haha I'll turn tethering on, then put my phone back in my pocket and forget about it. Then 3 hours later I pull my phone out of my pocket and oh, hey, look at that...my battery is at 5%. Whoops! hahaha
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I don't have this issue with my GS3 (thanks to my Samsung 3000mah extended battery)
I can tether to my N7 almost all the day
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I don't have this issue with my GS3 (thanks to my Samsung 3000mah extended battery)
I can tether almost all the day to my N7
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My GS4 gets great battery life too.
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For me, tethering is a pain in the ass. haha I'll turn tethering on, then put my phone back in my pocket and forget about it. Then 3 hours later I pull my phone out of my pocket and oh, hey, look at that...my battery is at 5%. Whoops! hahaha
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I had the same with wifi tethering whereas with Bluetooth both devices (S3 and Nexus 7) last almost the day, maybe give it a try if you did not yet.
@topic: Hence wifi is enough for me.
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I had the same with wifi tethering whereas with Bluetooth both devices (S3 and Nexus 7) last almost the day, maybe give it a try if you did not yet.
@topic: Hence wifi is enough for me.
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I have, and is definitely more battery efficient, but honestly, $10/month is worth it to me as a convenience fee to just be able to have the tablet connected whenever I need it, without needing a 2nd device to make it work when I'm out. haha
If I had to pay for a completely separate data plan, that might be a deal breaker. But $10/month is an easy pill to swallow.
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I have, and is definitely more battery efficient, but honestly, $10/month is worth it to me as a convenience fee to just be able to have the tablet connected whenever I need it, without needing a 2nd device to make it work when I'm out. haha
If I had to pay for a completely separate data plan, that might be a deal breaker. But $10/month is an easy pill to swallow.
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I pretty much agree with everything you mention in this thread.
Also, I can not wait until all the data devices actually run 4G/LTE. In addition to the convenience, battery life, etc., the ability to get super fast data - as fast or faster than many wifi sites - will be a winning combination.
I use two tablets. One on data for everything similar to a phone, etc. The second is stock wifi for the latest OTA updates and development only.
I am a luddite. I want my phone to make calls. I want my taboft to do Wi-Fi. Cellular data is WAY too expensive for way too little data to be useful for me for anything. The only time I am out of range of Wi-Fi is when I am in the car. Then I am only using GPS or media, both which don't need data.
Long way around to say it's Wi-Fi for me.
I just sold my N7 3G 2012 and upgraded to this 2013 version.
On the 2012 I had a data plan for 12 GBP a month, which I don't consider expensive but as I had a Nexus 1 and it´s quite slow to browse and limited in some aspects. But now I bought the N4 so I prefer to have the data plan on my phone and have the N7 with wifi only.
I have more battery (way more, I don´t know if it´s because of the radios or the version) and I am saving that money. I use my tablet at home/transport but I use offline content when I am away, like movies, news, books...etc.
For me, as I have the N4 now, I can use any app that I have on the N7 on my phone, so there's no point to have data on both devices. However, a I have a offline GPS on the N7, just in case, and I can tether for any emergency.
For me Data version, I can share my current data plan for just 2 €, yes 2€.
I was debating with myself if I should get LTE or not, but having my Nexus 4 to talk, whatsapp, and have almost 2 days battery on it it's important. With tethering I could not get more than 9 hours battery life.
Also the WiFi and Data signal is so much strong on the tablet than on my phone, and that means that I will use less battery overall as well, not to mention that if I lose my device, I can always locate it thanks for the always on internet and google device manager service.
I got the wifi and I tether it when needed. /shrug, At some point I think I'll stop having a phone altogether and just go data tablet. I don't like to talk on a phone and don't. I don't remember the last time I used my N4 as a phone. I texted and browse and GPS. Altho I will answer when connected via bluetooth in the challenger. /shrug
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I am a luddite. I want my phone to make calls. I want my taboft to do Wi-Fi. Cellular data is WAY too expensive for way too little data to be useful for me for anything. The only time I am out of range of Wi-Fi is when I am in the car. Then I am only using GPS or media, both which don't need data.
Long way around to say it's Wi-Fi for me.
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Funny. I feel like I'm the opposite of you.
Here is why:
"I am a techie (not luddite). I want my tablet (not phone) to make calls. I want my second tablet to do Wi-Fi. Smartphone cellular (not prepaid $30/30 day tablet) data is WAY too expensive for way too little data to be useful for me for anything. I am never out of range on my tablet (and tablet phone) but I get poor quality using tablet data for calls in the car. Then I can always use GPS or media (not am only using GPS or media, both which don't need data).
Long way around to say it's tablet data (not Wi-Fi) for me".
So, I fired Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile with my expensive "smart" phone plans. The "smart" is now entirely a marketing term in my opinion. Now, its either $30/month data and calls on T-Mobile or AT&T for me. If I need serious quality on a phone for a month or two I get a prepaid SIM ($45 - $50/month on T-Mobile or AT&T) for one of my spare phones.
There are some tricks to successfully making tablet calls. In a vehicle moving between towers, data is a problem. On short drives, with background vehicle noise, I recommend a bluetooth headset like Parrot. Normally, in the home or office I recommend a bluetooth headset like Sony SBH20. If you "talk to the tablet" you have to use echo cancellation with about 10% quality reduction. So I only recommend a tablet phone if you are a techie.
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Funny. I feel like I'm the opposite of you.
Here is why:
"I am a techie (not luddite). I want my tablet (not phone) to make calls. I want my second tablet to do Wi-Fi. Smartphone cellular (not prepaid $30/30 day tablet) data is WAY too expensive for way too little data to be useful for me for anything. I am never out of range on my tablet (and tablet phone) but I get poor quality using tablet data for calls in the car. Then I can always use GPS or media (not am only using GPS or media, both which don't need data).
Long way around to say it's tablet data (not Wi-Fi) for me".
So, I fired Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile with my expensive "smart" phone plans. The "smart" is now entirely a marketing term in my opinion. Now, its either $30/month data and calls on T-Mobile or AT&T for me. If I need serious quality on a phone for a month or two I get a prepaid SIM ($45 - $50/month on T-Mobile or AT&T) for one of my spare phones.
There are some tricks to successfully making tablet calls. In a vehicle moving between towers, data is a problem. On short drives, with background vehicle noise, I recommend a bluetooth headset like Parrot. Normally, in the home or office I recommend a bluetooth headset like Sony SBH20. If you "talk to the tablet" you have to use echo cancellation with about 10% quality reduction. So I only recommend a tablet phone if you are a techie.
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I just don't need data in the car. I am either using off-line GPS or playing audio from the SD card. I just think $30/month for 2GB data is ridiculous. I hear you about 3rd party cellular vendors, but I am in a kind of backwater area and if you want service that is really reliable, it is Verizon. Every thing else is spotty.
I AM in the IT industry, so I am not techno-adverse. However I have always liked discrete functions. A phone should be a phone and a data device should be a data. NOW, if the cell companies get reasonable or the traditional ISPs get smart and start adding cellular service as an extension of their wired service, that might be a whole different ball game.
PJ Clifford said:
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I AM in the IT industry, so I am not techno-adverse. However I have always liked discrete functions. A phone should be a phone and a data device should be a data. NOW, if the cell companies get reasonable or the traditional ISPs get smart and start adding cellular service as an extension of their wired service, that might be a whole different ball game.
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Yep. I get that.
Hopefully, Verizon will get widespread 4G/LTE soon (1-2 years), devices will get more universal band support, and device dependency on vendor technology (CDMA/LTE/other) won't lock you in. I'm with you on advancing ISP services to compete with cell providers. I'm told someone will license balloon antennas for wide range wifi, etc.
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And why do you prefer that one
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Wifi. Cheaper and I can tether to my phone easily (a Motorola Razr M). So a LTE N7 would be a wasted monthly expense for me.
WiFi, as stated it's cheaper and I get unlimited tethering from my phone plan so no need for the data version. Plus I'll be getting free upgrade to 4g soon so all good.
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It depends on what you want.. If you travel a lot or go to places that doesn't have wifi and want to use the tablet.. Then get the lte.
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Exactly, it all depends on what you are going to use it for, im mostly ever going to use it whilst im in my home with WiFi, so i went went that model.
You can easilly tether you smartphone with the tablet, via BT or WiFi. I prefer BT because it's battery efficient and more discreet, so for me LTE version is just a waste of money.
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You can easilly tether you smartphone with the tablet, via BT or WiFi. I prefer BT because it's battery efficient and more discreet, so for me LTE version is just a waste of money.
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If you live in the UK, it will be long time before LTE is countrywide, so far it's only the big city's. I agree with the above posts, waste of money buying any LTE at the moment.
I also own a Wifi only Tablet and don´t miss the 3G option. I bet most of you guys already own a decent smartphone and use it for tethering purposes On the other hand, if you intend to use your Tablet most the time with eg. google Maps as a navigation device, a built in SIM might be more comfortable instead of having to use your smartphone for tethering
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You can easilly tether you smartphone with the tablet, via BT or WiFi. I prefer BT because it's battery efficient and more discreet, so for me LTE version is just a waste of money.
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Sure you can easily tether with your smartphone, but that sucks battery out of your phone pretty fast, if you use that feature often. So it all comes down to the usage pattern. I travel a lot and as a result I use my Nexus 7 long periods without WiFi access, so the LTE version offers me the freedom to be online without sucking precious juice from my phone. It`s like always a matter of usage and preference. What`s a waste of money for some is freedom and comfort for other`s.
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Sure you can easily tether with your smartphone, but that sucks battery out of your phone pretty fast, if you use that feature often. So it all comes down to the usage pattern. I travel a lot and as a result I use my Nexus 7 long periods without WiFi access, so the LTE version offers me the freedom to be online without sucking precious juice from my phone. It`s like always a matter of usage and preference. What`s a waste of money for some is freedom and comfort for other`s.
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Same here I use my nexus for everything now I've only been using my s4 for emails and calls. I like the bigger screen anyway for videos and games and even reading articles and browsing
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Yeah - my ONE turned from silver to green, since it`s jealous
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Yeah - my ONE turned from silver to green, since it`s jealous
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hahaha, same as my S4
No more Games on my S3
I have one LTE and one wifi version of the tablet.
If you can afford the LTE I think you should get it. Practically, the other features of the tablet are the same so you can only benefit with LTE over wifi. The only reason I would get only wifi is if you can get it very cheap and your mobile (e.g. LTE) needs are 100% met by something else (like smartphone). If you have a big discount coupon or similar you may get the wifi version very cheap. I got $60 off my wifi version, and you might get an even better deal.
The LTE version has lots of flexibility, even if you do not use LTE now you may in another year. The LTE bands covered by the tablet are very good. If you have this version you can get a prepaid account for 30 days or longer, and stop paying if no longer needed. You can get 2GB to 4GB prepaid data plan for about $25 to $40 a month if you have no other plan sharing. With plan sharing you might add it for as little as $10 a month.
I use the LTE version for maps, quick email reading and response, and web browser search. There is no time wasted on tether configuration, management, and setup. Also, I limit LTE data over-use with airplane mode, by allowing wifi to download large files.
My wifi only tablet is best used at home where I have constant wifi available. Configuring wifi tethering while mobile is not convenient for me.
If you typically upgrade in a few years, then when selling the tablet later you will recover a higher price for the LTE version, so that offsets some initial price too.
Good luck
I love my LTE N7. Tethering drains my battery and the connection isn't stable for me either. Love having instant LTE wherever I go without having to do anything.
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I will also chime in and say my phone stays in my pocket more when I commute to school. I love having LTE. Like others have said you can tether.. But you're killing the battery on two devices. You phone and your tablet while you use it. My phone's battery is thanking me greatly.. Lol I also now use my nexus 7 for reading, surfing, games and media and with mysms I don't even have to pull my phone out when I get a text
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4G LTE phone are quite cheap these days example Lumia 625 or iPhone 5/5c on contract, as one needs a phone always, and share the data connection with your tablet over WIFi tether. Save yourself from two separate connection plans! Saved money, buying a 16GB wifi model (32GB aren't available here yet), plus the wifi version is equipped with GPS unlike ipads
That's not cutting it for me I need my mobility. Some times I just take my nexus 7 and leave my phone home. With GV and Skype or some other SUDO VoIP app I receive all my communications (Email, SMS, IM) and am able to work (DroidEdit Pro), (Junos Pulse), (RSA Secure ID), (PocketCloud). Without LTE this wouldn't be possible..
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Sure you can easily tether with your smartphone, but that sucks battery out of your phone pretty fast, if you use that feature often. So it all comes down to the usage pattern. I travel a lot and as a result I use my Nexus 7 long periods without WiFi access, so the LTE version offers me the freedom to be online without sucking precious juice from my phone. It`s like always a matter of usage and preference. What`s a waste of money for some is freedom and comfort for other`s.
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I have a 2000mAh battery my old friend, so in the end all depends clearly on personal usage and preference as you say.
I bought the lte version, just because I could but in hindsight maybe one of the most attractive points of the n7 is the price and the lte versions almost cost twice as much. Maybe I should have just bought the wifi version....
I got LTE because I had the previous 3G model and a second sim card.
Even though, I wish the ROM support would be better. I still wait for the official CM 10.2.