[Q] Nexus 4 vs Nexus 7 as a phone - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody, I wanted to know your opinions. I am definitely getting one of these new Nexus devices but I don't know if I should get the Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 as my phone. I have listed the pros between the two below.
Nexus 4:
It's designed to be a phone
it's portable
Higher Pixel Density
Back Camera
Nexus 7:
More screen real estate (I use my phone a lot but 4.3" on my old phone doesn't cut it)
Much larger battery
So which device would you guys go with?

The Nexus 7 is a tablet. It has no phone capabilities. You will not be able to make calls or send/receive texts. By the way the Nexus 4 has a 4.7" screen, not 4.3"

why not the nexus 10 with a bluetooth headset??

Euler MD said:
Hello everybody, I wanted to know your opinions. I am definitely getting one of these new Nexus devices but I don't know if I should get the Nexus 4 or Nexus 7 as my phone. I have listed the pros between the two below.
Nexus 4:
It's designed to be a phone
it's portable
Higher Pixel Density
Back Camera
Nexus 7:
More screen real estate (I use my phone a lot but 4.3" doesn't cut it)
Much larger battery
So which device would you guys go with?
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i used the last over wifi as a phone... a lot, in fact it's been my sole device since it came out... the speaker isn't good enough even with all the fine tuning you can do. I can turn it way down, adjust gain, speaker... etc etc etc but everyone complains of an echo. If you do a bluetooth headset though or headphones or whatever and you aren't using it for many phone calls... then boom. since i have the 7 now though... i must get the 4... only seems logical
raze599 said:
The Nexus 7 is a tablet. It has no phone capabilities. You will not be able to make calls or send/receive texts. By the way the Nexus 4 has a 4.7" screen, not 4.3"
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I assume he means with google voice...

mr2324jgf said:
i used the last over wifi as a phone... a lot, in fact it's been my sole device since it came out... the speaker isn't good enough even with all the fine tuning you can do. I can turn it way down, adjust gain, speaker... etc etc etc but everyone complains of an echo. If you do a bluetooth headset though or headphones or whatever and you aren't using it for many phone calls... then boom. since i have the 7 now though... i must get the 4... only seems logical
I assume he means with google voice...
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I heard that enabling the Phone and Messaging app on the device is possible as was possible on the original Galaxy Tab.

Neither. The Nexus 4 is too small. I'm waiting for a PlayStation Certified Nexus 5 mobile device with 4G capability.
Nexus 7 is too small a Nexus 8 with less bezel sounds good for me. Anything higer than that should be left to the Windows 8 hybrids.
If I really had a choice the Nexus 4..
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I was wondering about same thing, N7 HSPA+ with google voice and bluetooth headphone sounds like a good option,

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A few problems with my Nexus 4, what to do?

Hi! I bought my Nexus 4 two days ago and I've been having a few issues with it. I still haven't flashed it yet so I have 2 weeks to return it to the store. It came with 4.2.2
Here are the problems I have :
- When playing music over bluetooth with my wireless headset there's stuttering every once in a while... some time the audio cuts for a good 1 or 2 seconds.
- When making calls (through the phone, not with a bluetooth device) the sound quality is bad. I don't know how to describe the problem but it's as if at higher volume, the little speaker vibrates and make an annoying noise.
-I turned all sounds/vibration off because I was using the phone in the bed while my girlfriend was sleeping next to me. Yet, some times, when I touch the screen to open a page I could hear a small "click" sound.
Now I'm quite sure the two last issues can be fixed by changing the phone for another Nexus 4. For bluetooth problems, I think it may be related to a bug in 4.2.2. (based on posts of Galaxy Nexus owners who said their bluetooth worked fine in 4.1 but they had similar problems to what I had in 4.2.x)
THe big question I'm asking myself is this one :
-Should I get another Nexus 4 or should I go for the Galaxy SIII ?
Edit : What makes me afraid of the Galaxy SIII are the physical buttons on the screen. I prefer the way the Nexus 4, no buttons, more space for the screen. The CPU and RAM seems better in the Nexus 4. Does it make a huge difference compared to the Galaxy SIII ? I had a Nexus S before and it was quite slow compared to my new N4... a point for the SIII is that there is LTE coverage in my area. Is it really worth it? I only have 1 gig of data anyway...
Just return it and get a replacement.
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What kind of headset do you have? I have a JayBird Freedom headset and it would cut out with all of my phones that have Bluetooth 4.0. I have a plantronics set of ear buds that doesn't ever cut out. It might be worth trying a different headset. I think you would be happy with either phone, there is a ton of dev support for the gs3, plus lte. The quality of the nexus 4 is not as good as the gs3 in my opinion. But for the price and updates from google, the nexus 4 is better for me.
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lyall29 said:
What kind of headset do you have? I have a JayBird Freedom headset and it would cut out with all of my phones that have Bluetooth 4.0. I have a plantronics set of ear buds that doesn't ever cut out. It might be worth trying a different headset. I think you would be happy with either phone, there is a ton of dev support for the gs3, plus lte. The quality of the nexus 4 is not as good as the gs3 in my opinion. But for the price and updates from google, the nexus 4 is better for me.
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The headset is a Monoprice brand handset. (Cannot post link...)
It is bluetooth 3.0 and It works well with my Nexus S, my girlfriend's iPhone, and 3 computers. I don't really want to get a new pair for the Nexus 4 only. For now I'm thinking of using my Nexus S as a MP3 player at work, hoping a future update will fix bluetooth.

Nexus 10 or Smartphone?

I know they are two different categories, but i do not have experience with any 5 inch phone and was wondering if i should accept a trade deal, my used nexus 10 for a brand new HTC Butterfly. Can you read books and watch movies on 5 inch screens properly?
the best sized screen to read books is 7". To watch movies a 10", for a phones the best size is 5" in my opinion. I wouldn't trade my N10 for a phone...but if you need one, I'd say do it, if not, keep the awesomeness that is the N10.
yeah i do need a phone, probably will take the htc butterfly trade, anyone know how good it is to read books and movies on a 5 inch screen?
anyone have an input on this?
Phone its portable . Nexus 10 its not ....
Htc butter... i dont know if its awesomes but Nexus 10 shore its not . It s ok but no big deal ..
Wait for next generation of global tables maybe . Should be lighter and better quality .
Simple
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The butterfly is a great phone with an excellent screen. If you're going to read on it, I'm sure it will be as good as reading on a phone can get. Unless you get a note 2. Only downside is battery life. Here in North America the butterfly would be worth more than the nexus 10 but internationally I have no clue.
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I have a Note 2 (5.5" screen) and both a Nexus 7 and 10. I honestly prefer reading on the 7/10 depending on the situation. I rarely ever read on my phone, just because I don't feel like it is a very good experience. Obviously, there will be situations where you only have the phone and movie watching/book reading is definitely possible. It just isn't as good of an experience as a larger device.
jcollier said:
I have a Note 2 (5.5" screen) and both a Nexus 7 and 10. I honestly prefer reading on the 7/10 depending on the situation. I rarely ever read on my phone, just because I don't feel like it is a very good experience. Obviously, there will be situations where you only have the phone and movie watching/book reading is definitely possible. It just isn't as good of an experience as a larger device.
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Thanks guys for the input, since i need a phone i think im gonna go on with the trade, or do you guys think i should wait for the nexus 7/10/4 2nd gen?
I remember back when I was trying to decide on a Nexus 4 or Nexus 10. Ended up choosing the Nexus 10, and it was pretty awesome except for stuff that required mobility (jogging, Ingress, etc.). No mobile data is also a slight pain in certain places.
Just got a Nexus 4. It'll be real nice for mobility, but gaming, reading, and media are really lackluster, in-comparison to my Nexus 10 (I'm used to 7-10" tablets though to be fair). Mobile data is possible though, and as is tethering to my Nexus 10.
So basically, both devices complement each other in my situation. I didn't really require a phone when I made my first purchase though (had some cheap free minute phone).
If you require a phone and know you'll be in areas without internet access, I'd say go for a phone. If you require a phone and know you'll always (or most of the time) have access to internet, the Nexus 10 + Google Voice would work nicely. If you don't require a phone and want a large tablet with excellent screen quality, the Nexus 10 is awesome. And if you want a balance of mobility, large screen, and phone, the 3G Nexus 7 is pretty much perfect.

Do you still use your nexus 7 while having a New/faster phone?

Hey guys, I am currently deciding of wheater or not I should get me a New phone. For example the HTC one or the LG Optimus g pro.
My question for you guys with a pretty fast and new phone is, do you guys still usw your nexus 7, does it feel more sluggish because you have a fast phone? I am really concerned about that. Thank you guys for sharing your experiences!
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To me my phone and my tablet serve 2 different purposes. I have a nexus 4 in addition to my nexus 7 and if I'm not out I almost exclusively use my 7. Why stare at a small screen when you don't have to? It isn't like the 7 is some ancient p.o.s. It is an overall solid device, why buy a tablet if you just default to your phone all the time? It is called a phone for a reason.
Sent from my Nexus 7(2012) that has zero issues.
SlowCobra96 said:
To me my phone and my tablet serve 2 different purposes.
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Same here. My Galaxy S4 seems smoother and faster but the apps on it tend to be on-the-go type of stuff whereas my Nexus 7 is more for reading and relaxing. I tend to game more on the Nexus 7 too.
I agree with the others, my phone and tablet serve 2 different purposes. I have a Galaxy S3, which I love dearly and which is fast, but when I have my tablet with me, I hook up to my SG3's mobile hotspot and that's about the extent of my phone use. From there on out, I do everything on my nexus 7- browsing, books, movies, games, etc. I DO love my phone when I don't have my tablet, but for entertainment, it doesn't top my tablet. The only downside is if there's no wifi and I don't have my phone, I can't connect on my tablet... but that pretty much never happens. There's always either wifi or my phone's data, so yeah...
I would say the only time I use my phone instead of my tablet (when I've got the choice of either), is when my kids have hijacked my tablet, lol. Then I don't have much choice!

tablet recommendations- Nexus 7 or Note 8

Hello Nexers!! I have an original Nexus 7 wifi and am looking into getting a new tablet and passing this one off to my daughter.
I am looking into the nexus lte (on tmo's free 200 mb) or the Note 8 wifi. They are pretty close in price. Any input you have on your nexus 7 2013 lte's would be much appreciated.:laugh: I have a Samsung original Note so I am familiar with both OS. Thanks.
The answer is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380628
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Well,
SCREEN
in one side, you have the note 8.0 which has a bigger screen (not only 1 inch more, it also does not have any soft keys) so you get a larger screen.. anyway, i PERSONALLY feel 7 inch is alright and the text looks sharper in the nexus 7.. because of these:
Note 8 has a resolution of 1280x800 in 8 inches, which leads to 189.000 Pixels packed into every inch.. its OK but it's not awesome.
Nexus 7 has a resolution of 1920x1200 in 7 inches, that's a total of 323.000 Pixels for every single inch, amazing for reading books, watching movies, reading magazines,etc..
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GAMES & MULTITASKING
Note 8 has a quad-core 1.6GHZ Exynos processor, and a mali-400 GPU..
in my opinion, nexus 7 beats both
Nexus 7 processor is an underclocked snapdragon 600 or an overclocked s4 pro.. so it might be better than the quad 1.6 exynos processor.. the GPU adreno 320 of the nexus 7 makes the mali-400 look obsolete.
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Nexus 7 has also gyroscope but that's not something really important..
Note 8 also some features not mentioned by me because i just dont think they are important, you can check them out here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Nexus-7-2013,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8.0/phones/8021,7677
not to mention nexus 7 have a much better UI which is Stock android vs Touchwiz. and as it is a nexus device you have a minimum of 18 months of full support from google which leads to having the latest version of android always.
well that's my opinion..
sorry for the bad english
Matrix_19 said:
The answer is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380628
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Great thread and info. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the point Leaning towards the nexus right now.
Nachospeicys said:
Well,
SCREEN
in one side, you have the note 8.0 which has a bigger screen (not only 1 inch more, it also does not have any soft keys) so you get a larger screen.. anyway, i PERSONALLY feel 7 inch is alright and the text looks sharper in the nexus 7..
sorry for the bad english
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Thank you Nacho! Your english was perfect!
nexus touchscreen creates the vacuum on balls
if you need bluetooth + wifi working at the same time, then Nexus is not usable.
for every Nexus owner:
1. connect bluetooth mouse.
2. connect to WIFI (normal one, 2.4 GHz)
3. stream music via WIFI
4. try to move bluetooth mouse...
old problem since Nexus 4 which has also Qualcomm chips - never fixed.
My cousin has a galaxy tab 8.0, I have a nexus 7.
Reading pdfs on nexus 7 isn't that good due to it's small screen.
That's the only better thing with galaxy tab. Nexus 7 rules everywhere else.
devein said:
if you need bluetooth + wifi working at the same time, then Nexus is not usable.
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I often use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi at the same time and haven't had any problems.
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I used to have the Note 8 and switched to Nexus 7 due to the battery life and gaming performance of Note 8. Never looked back and battery life in N7 is superb., the display resolution is just awesome. No regrets and even more compact.
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devein said:
if you need bluetooth + wifi working at the same time, then Nexus is not usable.
for every Nexus owner:
1. connect bluetooth mouse.
2. connect to WIFI (normal one, 2.4 GHz)
3. stream music via WIFI
4. try to move bluetooth mouse...
old problem since Nexus 4 which has also Qualcomm chips - never fixed.
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I stream music from wifi to bluetooth speakers without any problems, haven't tried to connect a mouse though.
Edit : just tried a Bluetooth mouse (Logitech m555b no problems either).
sashusmom said:
Hello Nexers!! I have an original Nexus 7 wifi and am looking into getting a new tablet and passing this one off to my daughter.
I am looking into the nexus lte (on tmo's free 200 mb) or the Note 8 wifi. They are pretty close in price. Any input you have on your nexus 7 2013 lte's would be much appreciated.:laugh: I have a Samsung original Note so I am familiar with both OS. Thanks.
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I had the Note 8 and have the Nexus 7 2013. The Nexus is better in every way versus the Note 8 unless you need the S Pen. Biggest complaint I had with the Note 8 was the screen.
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For me I chose nexus 7
Note 8 pros:
1.bigger screen
2.pen (for drawing)
3.multiwindow
4.its a phone(better I guess)
Con's:
1.sluggish UI make it runs slower when used for a while
2.design not as beautiful as nexus 7(in my opinion)
3.TFT screen (obviously the IPS corning gorilla glass is better)
Nexus 7
Pros
1. Its a nexus-pure android experience which got updates faster than any non nexus devices)
2.awesome stereo loudspeaker
3.beautiful design(didn't mean to be bias lol)
4.better overall specs
Cons:
1.no multiwindows
2.some multi touch problems(which is already fixed by the new update)
Sorry if it feels like I'm bias because I just think that nexus7 have a very few bad points.
Since when google fixed touchscreen problem?
They think they did with 15R.
They made mine worse.
Issues discussed here:https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/Tetp20r-REo/Q0G4IcPYxXwJ
Petition here: https://www.causes.com/campaigns/64142-have-google-address-the-high-defect-rate-of-the-nexus-7-13 If yours is effected.
Made My Choice!
Thanks for all your input. I just picked up my Nexus 7 lte!
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Unlocked bootloader, Rooted, and TWRP installed and ready to roll!!!!! WooHoo!
godutch said:
I stream music from wifi to bluetooth speakers without any problems, haven't tried to connect a mouse though.
Edit : just tried a Bluetooth mouse (Logitech m555b no problems either).
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I wonder then, may it be some kind of manufacturing problem, a defect occurring for some models ?
Was missing what I might be missing, so picked up a Note 8, Went on sale at staples and got a 3rd tablet. Now I have 3- But lost Best Buy's receipt! Argghhhhhhh...... Anyone know if they will accept a return within the return period with no receipt on a best buy credit card? Have the receipt for the Nexus 7. I am keeping the Note 8. Screen size got me. $309 at Staples, but I might be stuck with 2!
devein said:
if you need bluetooth + wifi working at the same time, then Nexus is not usable.
for every Nexus owner:
1. connect bluetooth mouse.
2. connect to WIFI (normal one, 2.4 GHz)
3. stream music via WIFI
4. try to move bluetooth mouse...
old problem since Nexus 4 which has also Qualcomm chips - never fixed.
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Im connected to wifi, have a bluetooth mouse, speaker and i have connected a mouse to it but found no use for it, oh and make sure the bluetooth mouse is not the problem. I had went through 3 before i got one that doesnt have sleep mode issues that require me to turn the mouse on and off, it is NOT the tablet, BT mice suck
sashusmom said:
Was missing what I might be missing, so picked up a Note 8, Went on sale at staples and got a 3rd tablet. Now I have 3- But lost Best Buy's receipt! Argghhhhhhh...... Anyone know if they will accept a return within the return period with no receipt on a best buy credit card? Have the receipt for the Nexus 7. I am keeping the Note 8. Screen size got me. $309 at Staples, but I might be stuck with 2!
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I answered my own question today. Went back to Best Buy with the original Note 8 with no receipt. It was a little confusing to the clerk. I had originally ordered it online. So the sticker on the box she said was my receipt, but the online order was cancelled and I rebought
the same tablet with a store receipt( which I lost) on my best buy credit card. Make a long story short, she reprinted a duplicate receipt, and made the return and credited it back to my card.
So, Now I still have the Nexus 7 lte, and a Note 8 from staples that I got for $309! That return period is over, so I will keep the Note 8, but still have till Jan 14 to return the Nexus 7(I have that receipt!). I think that one is going back.

[q] should i buy nexus 7

OK so I know I probably came to the wrong thread, but my question is aimed specifically at people who use the nexus 5 and also own a nexus 7. Is the screen that much of a difference? Is it worth being a companion to my pretty big nexus 5 or should I not waste my dinero and buy a mid range tab for a bigger contrast in screen size? I was thinking lg g pad cause of the processor upgrade from the nexus 7, screen size, and storage expansion. but it is early 2014 not sure if I should wait for this years tablets to come out and make a decision.
most people here are using the original nexus 7 from 2012,you can buy one of those for around $90 on craigslist or around 110 on ebay.
i dont have a nexus 5 but i own a droid dna and the nexus 5 has a slightly bigger screen but honestly,a 7 inch tablet is way better for reading or just laying down and watching a movie compared to most phones, even the bigger ones.
if i were you ,id get the newer nexus 7 tho ,its slimmer and has better specs,but the original can be bought cheap and it will still handle pretty much anything as the specs are not too outdated yet,
N7 is awesome. Its the perfect size and imo the best bang for your buck device
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Can we help you with Buying your Undies too.
I have a Note 2 phone with 5.5 inch screen. The 7 inch screen is so much better then even this monster phone.I also have a note 10.1.. I love the screen size on it.But it does not fit in my purse.
I would say yes its worth it ..But you gotta ask yourself some questions. How much money you are willing to spend. Do you need it NOW. How much storage space do you need. Do you need a network radio in it .
After you come up with the above answers if . question one is you have plenty of money and question 2 is you DO NOT have to have it this day. Wait and get the next greatest thing. a
Well you can figure the rest out.
I can tell you its a awesome device.. GET 32 GB Version. You will be glad you did.
Good Luck
They're exactly the same interface and software wise, except some apps are displayed in tablet mode, which is usually better but sometimes worse. Another difference is also that in landscape, the virtual buttons are portrait on the right on Nexus 5 and on Nexus 7 they are landscape on the bottom, wasting precious screen height. These virtual buttons are the only thing I hate about the Nexus 7, after removing them with apps in the Store, you gain a lot of screen space. However, Nexus 5 is 16:9, while Nexus 7 is 16:10, so the visible screen is more or less the same in the end.
I mostly use it in portrait mode because of that.
As I said, that is the only thing that bugs me about it. Otherwise, it's a great little tablet, great size for watching movies, series on the go (or in bed), it should play all games available in the Store and do all other unproductive things you can do on a tablet.
I had a 2011 Xperia Arc S before, and with it's single core CPU it quickly failed to play latest games, that's why I resorted to the Nexus 7.
Nexus 5, however, is newer, has the latest hardware and is capable of playing anything you throw at it, so getting a Nexus 7 is really only for extra screen size, but it does pay off. Maybe diagonal isn't the best measure, try screen area:
Nexus 5: 69 cm^2
Nexus 7: 142 cm^2
So the screen is actually double the size of the Nexus 5, and it's noticeably bigger when watching videos.
If you're going to mostly use it to watch videos, get the N7, if you're primarily going to surf the internet and read documents and such, I'd recommend you to check out the 8" tablets LG Pad 8.3 and Samsung 8" (tab or note), both come with buttons on the side and therefore have more vertical pixels (both 16:10).
Then there's also 2013 Nexus 7, with latest chip and 16:10 fullHD but it's quite pricier then its 2012 brother.
Why would you need a tablet for anyway? If you want it because it's popular, then forget about it. If you have other reasons, write them down, it's easier to recommend that way.
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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rmn6 said:
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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It works great for me, it is highly customizable, gets latest android,price is great for the 2012 model.
I own both, Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2012). Have to say that N5 screen is awesome, but still N7 screen is nice and totally usable and it's so cheap, that you can later easily change to some other device if you want.
One good thing is that, the Nexus 7 is still supported by Google so you get official updates at least some time. When Google drop support, then you can always use custom roms.
Personally I buy only Nexus devices, because they get always best support from Google and maybe best community support.
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
martikung said:
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
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I don't play much games, but on normal usage stock 4.4.2 is working smoothly without any noticeable lag. And yes, you can't compare speed to N5, but old N7 is not bad at all if we compare example to N4.
Do you have some free example game(s) what you mean? I can test and let you know is it working smoothly or not... Maybe this info is useful to @BNNEBULA too.

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