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I posted part of this in charnsingh_online's 780p thread, but I feel it's more appropriate to post here instead so that everyone sees it, so here goes -
The biggest problems with the Nexus One's video recorder are the mediocre audio recording format (AMR 8kHz) and the low frame rates in decent lighting conditions. This is not acceptable, because the Nexus One is Google's so-called "superphone" and we have seen the iPhone and Droid produce good quality video recordings (ie. constant frame rates, good audio) on arguably lower hardware specs.
Here's a link to a Google feature request that a Nexus One owner posted way back in January:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6156
"Issue 6156: Adding support for more audio and video encoders in Android."
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Please visit the page I have linked, and if you have a Google account (I am sure you all do!), click on the star at the top left (and leave comments too!) so that it increases the number of stars and thus brings it to the attention of the Google team.
It may be a longshot that they do something about it, but it doesn't hurt to at least let them know about it!
EDIT: The issue above is actually a general Android feature request, but for the Nexus One you could also visit a similar thread in the Nexus One help forum:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?fid=5f7b0b7d99eff9310004892474249fa2&hl=en
I do have to say, though, that the framerate reduction is a very positive thing for low-light videos compared to the Milestone/Droid. My N1 can take beautiful videos of performances in nightclubs and on outdoor nighttime stages by slowing down the framerate to capture enough light. Under the same conditions, my Milestone produces a high-framerate video of... total darkness punctuated by a few bright lights.
But it would be nice to have some more fine-grained controls over this.
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I do have to say, though, that the framerate reduction is a very positive thing for low-light videos compared to the Milestone/Droid. My N1 can take beautiful videos of performances in nightclubs and on outdoor nighttime stages by slowing down the framerate to capture enough light. Under the same conditions, my Milestone produces a high-framerate video of... total darkness punctuated by a few bright lights.
But it would be nice to have some more fine-grained controls over this.
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Image quality is all fine and dandy, but when you are only getting 9fps in a lit room then the video is garbage anyway. In the same conditions with the Milestone the frame rate is at a constant 24 fps and the picture is a bit grainy due to the increased ISO(?), which is still acceptable still (plus you can use the LED light to add some more brightness).
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Image quality is all fine and dandy, but when you are only getting 9fps in a lit room then the video is garbage anyway. In the same conditions with the Milestone the frame rate is at a constant 24 fps and the picture is a bit grainy due to the increased ISO(?), which is still acceptable still (plus you can use the LED light to add some more brightness).
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Sure, but under the conditions I described (dark room with stage lighting, basically), Milestone fails completely and N1 succeeds. The LED light will not help under these circumstances - the stage lighting is plenty bright, but the Milestone simply fails to capture anything at all.
Here's an example N1 video in a nightclub - one of my favourite Vancouver drag queens in fact
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc4Kk0h4cL0
Yes, the frame rate isn't great and the audio sucks... but the colours are absolutely brilliant. I didn't have my Milestone yet at the time I filmed this but I've tried using it in similar conditions. All the Milestone produces is complete darkness with a few tiny flashes of light. Not even grainy... absolute darkness.
Thanks for this. Im so sick of hearing about the cruddy things about the nexus that arent hardware related. If it doesnt have the hardware i understand the limitations, but it seems like google just didnt really try with this damn phone. I mean fps sucks and we couldve had 720p recording? What the **** is going on over there at android headquarters? Whos in charge of quality control? And they didnt even think 720 was POSSIBLE? Talk about bush league.
Good idea...have visit the link and left my comments
Star added!
Thanks for doing this.
IMO, 720p is over-rated. 480 @ 16:9 (or 16:8 or w/e) is more file-size effiecient anyway. I think the biggest issue is audio. 8k?! That's insanely low. Un-necessarily low. We need a fix to this seriously badly.
yes 720p is over-rated. id rather have a high quality (high bitrate/high framerate) 480p... its like an upscaled DVD vs a low bitrate 720p movie rip from piratebay
Agreed with both of you. Personally, I don't think it's such a big deal to have 720p when the frame rate and audio is so mediocre in the first place. Takes up too much storage too. We need to fix the bigger issues first.
BTW the link to the entire Issues list is found on the "Issues" tab in that URL I showed in the first post. Or you can access it through here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list
When I first posted this thread, the video encoder issue was only at 29 stars and it was on page 3 of the Issues list... now it has 74 stars and we are at page 2! Thanks everyone.. we need more people though!
You're going to have more luck posting this in the nexus forums than the android forums.
You will not be seeing support for propietary codecs on the Android base OS.
The only way you will see it is at the device level. Licensing issues prevent it from being incorporated into Android, but not into specific devices.
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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This feature was the only thing keeping me from flashing an AOSP rom onto my note. Looks like I'll be rocking ParanoidAndroid!
nooooo not the slow mo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
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damn bummer man (
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
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was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
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was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
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It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
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It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
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Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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No worries, I appreciate the change in tone.
I know what you mean, and I feel the same way (on the fly interpolation would be awesome), but if HTC can do it, then i'm sure it's only a matter of time before it gets ported or somebody else writes one on the play store.
As for vegas and twixtor, i'm not allowed to post torrent links or anything like that but both are very popular and should only take 30 minutes to download and you'll be able to do a lot more cool stuff with it anyways.
I was also bitterly disappointed in the slow motion capture on my note 3
Its not that the capture or frame-rate is bad its the overall quality
recording in a 720p resolution don't mean S*%T if the bit-rate is S*%T
Every video ive tried is very distorted and pixelated should never be possible in a 720p hd clip
Samsung needs to better optimise the capture and encoding
did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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lol
it looks ok i suppose on phone but when you attempt to watch on tv omg it looks like it was taken with a Nokia 3210 and they didnt even have cameras
While it is a shame the videos are not a tad clearer, seeing as how my htc one x's slow motion was choppy as hell when i had one, im happy enough with it, i'll only be using it for stupid things anyway, lol...like this...http://youtu.be/UAxXLZDnPrY. (next im planning to film a small air cannistor bunged on a bonfire and the resulting explosion!)
and here it is. http://youtu.be/N4ff9DsoU28
http://youtu.be/w-qnRMHdfXI
Well.... (DON'T FIGHT!)
Stop Fighting, Guys!
iPhone and Note are both 1280x720@120fps but there's another huge problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ion-function-t2904242/post56013525?styleid=18
And well, another one but not equal to this thread
henihazbay said:
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
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I know what:
See this
Slow motion is a gimmick. It's just a normal video slowed down, there is no 120fps capture going on.
Playing with slo-mo effects,
sorry for terrible lighting
http://youtu.be/IiF40O_WheQ
Cool, always love watching these, EVEN. From the Mrs's iphone 5s (which does a superb job).
Now if you want to do it again and need a mouth to catch those in.....give me a shout.
Sent from my LG G2 802.
Sony Z2 pre ordered.........
More Slow-Mo Effects + Video editing on the phone to see what its capable of.
http://youtu.be/oA3mofvHIvY
Take a look
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More Slow-Mo Effects + Video editing on the phone to see what its capable of.
http://youtu.be/oA3mofvHIvY
Take a look
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Nice i love watching stuff in slow mo...... hopefully they'll advance on this in future models, i wouldnt mind in a couple of years when i upgrade next, being able to shoot proper 300 fps slow mo from my phone, even something simple like a balloon popping looks awesome slowed down that much
wow you can record slow motion videos at 1440p quality thats awesome man.
my note 2 cannot record more than 480p
Hi all,
I've had my Xiaomi RedMi Note 2 for a while now and thought I would share my video review and hands on unboxing videos:
Unboxing:
Hands-on gaming, benchmarks, thoughts, opinions.
Overall this is definitely one of the best bang for you buck mobile phones around. The Mediatek 6795 Helio X10 runs great and the GPU is fastest enough for even the most demanding games. LTE/4G is crazy fast for me, I had never got 75mbps speeds before, not even on my LG G4. which caps at around 50mbps for me. The screen looks great and there isn't much to not like on this mobile. The 13MP camera is good in anything but low light and macros come out amazing (see my samples). What I find disappointing is the sound on video and in lower light the video frame rate drops below 30fps. Indoor low light shots are very average.
The phone has now been passed on to my wife and she loves it, complete overkill for her needs. MIUI also might not be for everyone. And the build is very plastic and cheap feeling compared to metal framed phones. I got it from GearBest here: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_229217.html
Day video sample (1080p):
Sunset (1080p):
Night video (1080p)
Camera samples:
Like on my Note 4 I get over 120 Mbit/s over LTE but Wifi, GPS and 2G/3G/4G is 2-3 times better than on my Note 4. Sometimes I can't belive this.
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The foliage looks really washed out on those samples, was it windy or does it really do such a poor job? The rest of the samples seem really decent for the price.
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The foliage looks really washed out on those samples, was it windy or does it really do such a poor job? The rest of the samples seem really decent for the price.
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It was windy and low light in some of the later shots. Low light pictures are not good at all.
I think that lack of optical stabilization makes video recording really bad. I think that the quality is descent, but the everything is kind of up and down all the time, a little cranky.....
MIUI 7 Slow motion samples:
MIUI 7 Time lapse samples:
Thanks mate. Can it does slower than this?
Nope. There's no other settings for slow mo.
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I think that lack of optical stabilization makes video recording really bad. I think that the quality is descent, but the everything is kind of up and down all the time, a little cranky.....
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Definitely I have a G4 and now a Note 5, I miss OIS, even DIS would help out here. The quality is good, but the audio is a bit washed out. But still for a $165 dollar mobile it's decent.
Hi,
could you test HEVC encoding capabilities for us, it's a little tricky, only "CINEMA FV5" app could support HEVC encoding for the moment, and if you can test [email protected] and [email protected] and Manual Focus as well it will be great, thanks in adavance
Very nice review and some of the only slow motion footage on youtube, thanks! :good:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Good stabilisation and auto focus, not much more to say
4k video awful. Stutters and judders whenever you move. FHD+ not much better. Quality is also not sharp. A massive let down here.
Video quality not good terrible jittering ,i expecting more from this expensive phone
price asked has nothing to do with quality there are 200$ phones with crisp 4k video on the market
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4k video awful. Stutters and judders whenever you move. FHD+ not much better. Quality is also not sharp. A massive let down here.
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I got exact same feelings. The video quality is a bad joke...
Keeping my fingers crossed for a software update soon!
I spend a good hour at huawei booth and just couldn't get an explanation why there were jitters and dropped frames at 60 fps especially when panning. Also, 4k had few dropped frames and jitters but there was some sort of warping/bending at the sides of the screen. Again , no explanation.
So wanted to get this phone and am hoping someone has some answers why (perhaps it's ok when exported to pc?) or maybe some setting i'm not aware of?
Same here. Video quality suck and it always want to brighten the video when shot in a sligthly dark room. Hopefully there will be a fix but meanwhile snapchat app actually records better video than the default huawei app... Thats kind of embarrassing for huawei. It seems to be a sofwareissue.
Do anyone know any good external camera app to use?
Any one have the same problem like me.
No sound when making a video. When I restart the phone than sound comes back , but after a few more videos no more. I have now library of movies with no sound.
terkje said:
Same here. Video quality suck and it always want to brighten the video when shot in a sligthly dark room. Hopefully there will be a fix but meanwhile snapchat app actually records better video than the default huawei app... Thats kind of embarrassing for huawei. It seems to be a sofwareissue.
Do anyone know any good external camera app to use?
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I'm using Cinema FV5, it's having a lot of manual settings, so I was able to shoot a video which looks quite more natural in low light.
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I am not happy with video recording, pro mode options are limited and there's no dynamic control option i.e., you can't change settings while recording video other than zoom and focus. lot of pixel dropping in 4K, stabilization is good though, 146 has tweaked it well. another thing i noticed is long exposure shots with ISO 50 are giving lots of white dots or burnt pixels which are spoiling the photo shots. this means camera photo-detectors are not well ventilated for heat dissipation. also some of the features that Huawei boasted about such as cinematic mode are useless, low light videos are horrible...
only photo quality is good.
Slow mo
Hey guys, second post around... I've been testing super slow mo (960 fps) but the quality is a bit rubbish, the lense is the same as far as i know, and at 120 fps it takes good video, despite blurring everything at 0.6x... Do you have the same problem? Is there something I'm missing about slow motion video? Thanks!
Slow Motion is far better in Note 9. Big disappoint on Video recording on M20 Pro
Photos are great, Videos recorded are worse than $200 phone
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Slow Motion is far better in Note 9.
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I feel the same.
But both on Note 9 and Mate 20 Pro, the lack of manual focus on slow motion is sad. I lose lots and lots of opportunity for nice slowmo videos because they are out of focus (e.g., looking out the winodow of a moving train when entering the station). Simply being able to lock the focus would make it awesome.
4K video works fine for me
As long as you move smoothly the video is very nice as long as you are outside in good light. But first remember to use "performance mode". This is very important! Of corse the stabilization is not as good as in full HD;
4k30fps is not the way to go for smooth footage with any movement involved, let's hope the market still cares about Huawei in 2k20 until kirin 990 comes along
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I feel the same.
But both on Note 9 and Mate 20 Pro, the lack of manual focus on slow motion is sad. I lose lots and lots of opportunity for nice slowmo videos because they are out of focus (e.g., looking out the winodow of a moving train when entering the station). Simply being able to lock the focus would make it awesome.
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If you shoot video a lot, download Filmic Pro. It gives you full control on the camera. You'll be able to lock the focus and the exposure. Keep in mind that shooting 960fps video requires lots of lighting otherwise blur effect. The S9 has the same "issue". It is not an issue in fact it's just how it goes even for professional. Slow motion with bad lighting is a bad idea. Hope it helps
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4k30fps is not the way to go for smooth footage with any movement involved, let's hope the market still cares about Huawei in 2k20 until kirin 990 comes along
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It depends a lot on what you shoot. and what texture you are looking for in your final footage. For more cinematic videos many will recommend 24fps. For slow motion high framerate. Shooting in 60fps you'll get a texture close to "real life". Hope it helps
How's the effect compared with iPhone and Samsung?
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How's the effect compared with iPhone and Samsung?
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Video recording in Iphone XSMax are gorgeous, better than Mate 20 Pro period. For Samsung S10 I don't know but my guess is that they are both better than Mate 20 Pro. Mate 20 Pro just do the work
the video recording quality is quite the disaster. i hope it is fixed in an update some point soon. i'm pretty sure my zte a7 has better video quality....sadly...