[Q] usb otg gamepad question - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an otg cable, yet none of my accessories work with it and my RAZR MAXX. My question is whether or not I need a powered hub when using the OTG cable. I have seen set ups of other android models using a SIXAXIS controller and otg cable, yet no hub. In this case, it the powered hub not needed since the controller itself is supplying its own power?
Thanks,
Neverused

USB controllers don't work?? I'm interested in this as well
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Download USB Device Info:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=aws.apps.usbDeviceEnumerator
When you open the app you should see 0 devices under Android and Linux tabs. Now connect just your OTG cable nothing plugged into it and hit refresh, something should show up, usually under the Linux tab that identifies the USB host. Even if the USB host doesn't supply power this will still work as I have tested it on my Touchpad which has no OTG power.
If you saw something appear when you connected the OTG cable, than OTG is in the Razr M. Now try connecting your gamepad and refresh the device list. If its not showing up then there is either something wrong with OTG or you need external power. This program will ID any USB device connected, even those which Android doesn't support since its just matching the device against a list it has. Try getting a USB keyboard/mouse working ad those are universally supported on Android and would confirm if USB host works.

Questions go in the question forum too...

Here's a dumb question. I just ordered a female USB to male micro USB. I wanted to be able to yank pics off my camera and drop them on my phone. Would I need an OTG adapter or does that plane adapter work?
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agent888 said:
Here's a dumb question. I just ordered a female USB to male micro USB. I wanted to be able to yank pics off my camera and drop them on my phone. Would I need an OTG adapter or does that plane adapter work?
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An OTG cable has a extra pin in it that is tied to ground in a OTG cable which tells the hardware to switch to OTG mode. A regular USB cable will leave this pin open.

If I'm able to peel open this adapter that I got, and jump pin 4 to 5 should it work as an OTG cable?
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agent888 said:
If I'm able to peel open this adapter that I got, and jump pin 4 to 5 should it work as an OTG cable?
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Its possible, as shown here:
http://tech2.in.com/how-to/accessor...sb-otg-cable-for-an-android-smartphone/319982
For me I'd rather just buy an OTG cable, but if you have regular microUSB cables laying around, go for it.

Bought an OTG cable
Bought a simple OTG adapter from newegg. So far....plugged in a mouse and my camera. Both work flawlessly, my camera gives me the choice of either either MTP (?) that goes straight to gallery and image import, or Storage which prompts to a new usb mount. Have not tried a gamepad yet, I have 2 floating around somewhere but not sure what game to try.

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Xoom Camera kit not working as OTG cable

No notification pops up, my phone just doesnt seem to recognize the cable. Any reason? I was told the xoom camera kit cable would work for otg usb.
hello? can somebody help?
nobody? okay...coool
You'll need external power to power it
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its a pendrive, which should work unplugged. It just doesnt seem to even recognize that its there. Do you think the cable is defective?
In the usb otg tutorial video in the accessories section it shows that plugging in the cable without anything attached to it should trigger a notification. If it doesn't, it's probably the cable
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okay, I guess the motorola xoom cable does not work for some stupid reason. Or its defective...well ****.
I guess, it's missing a resistor to trigger OTG mode.
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in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092493&highlight=usb+otg+resistor) you'll find detailed instructions on what makes one cable work and another one fail. apparently, you'd have to open the micro usb plug and connect pin 4 and 5. the connection between pin 4 and 5 determine, what kind of connection it is: charging, sync, usb otg, mhl, trigger download mode... and indeed, that is done by putting in different resistor strengths.
I got one of these, only £2.50 shipped and works perfectly, its great fun plugging in a mouse!

New MHL cable supports USB on Go

It seams that the change to the MHL cable is to allow USB on Go with the same cable
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
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It seams that the change to the MHL cable is to allow USB on Go with the same cable
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
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I had a bunch this was the case! Thanks for confirming.
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But how would one plug a usb cable into the hdmi port?
The_Biz said:
But how would one plug a usb cable into the hdmi port?
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there is a MHL adapter that gives you a male 11 pin micro USB to female HDMI so you can just plug a standard male to male HDMI cable from adapter to TV.
see:
Samsung Galaxy S III MHL to HDMI adapter
Does anyone know if this new adapter will work with the Galaxy Nexus, as well? Also, does it charge the phone--or at least keep it from being drained--when USB OTG is being used? I've been looking for a way to use USB OTG with a flash drive on my GN while also charging/powering the phone. USB OTG is a real power hog.
It should, but on mine it doesn't.
I've got a new MHL cable and a USB OTG cable in the hope I could plug my MHL into the SGS3, use a powered USB hub connected to the Micro USB on the MHL and then connect a keyboard and mouse into the USB hub, then connect the HDMI to the TV.
For me it doesn't work. I thought this was the whole reason they changed the MHL cable to the new type. Can anyone else confirm?
Logicalstep
can we get an update on this situation here? How
can we get MHL AND USB OTG?
My reading of the link is that the micro USB port has been repinned to provide USB on the go and not that the cable allows for this.On the mhl cable there is a female HDMI port and a micro USB ( both female) which must be used by the charger.
If the usb connection is also female type, we have to use a usb otg cable to get it work. But at the moment my phone also wont recognize any devices -.-' only mhl and nothing else.
I bought this adapter for 25 euros and want to have it working.
I also asked samsung on facebook 'bout this problem, and everything the told me:
Go support site...
very helpful.
I hope the will enable this feature in a future update.

Usb otg on standard charger cable?

Hi there. Recently got nexus 7 there and I was not going to root or mess with it but the lack of otg cables around my area is
Doing my head in. But on my HTC one s I have a mental installed by a dev called zarboz. He got the standard USB cable that goes from the charger to the device working as an otg cable. Without having to buy a proper otg cable.
is there a kernel that supports this. I have been looking but have not found anything on it.
snwman said:
Hi there. Recently got nexus 7 there and I was not going to root or mess with it but the lack of otg cables around my area is
Doing my head in. But on my HTC one s I have a mental installed by a dev called zarboz. He got the standard USB cable that goes from the charger to the device working as an otg cable. Without having to buy a proper otg cable.
is there a kernel that supports this. I have been looking but have not found anything on it.
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All kernels support otg. Even the stock. Some dont have automount for external drives, but I have yet to find one that didnt accept a kb or mouse immediately. Now, otg plus host mode charging is a different story.
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Otg not working?

Hi.
I have a otg cable and USB storage device and I can't use it on my s4 , when plugging in the otg it says USB connector connected. But when I connect an USB drive to it it says nothing and I can't get in the otg. It worked on my note 2 but people say the problem is the mhl 2.0 but the note 2 has the same mhl 2.0
Please help me.
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I don't understand what is this detectable otg cable you are talking about. I have simple cheap converter from microusb to normal usb. This converter is not detected by itself by the phone. I just use it to plug pendrive to phone's microusb and everything works. GT-I9505

[Q] things to buy

I have my NP coming next week! Now I need to know what I should order to go with it. Should I get a USB hub for it? Can I use the Logitech k400 if I wanted? Can I plug a 1TB HDD in somehow to play my movies? My computer recently died so my plex server is down :/
I'd like to change ROMs on the device too.. So please advise. Thank you!
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Get an adapter cable from micro USB to USB female. Then get a powered USB hub - the passive ones probably won't be able to drive your HDD.
With Kodi, you won't need the PC-based server!
Lots of choices for a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse. I use my Logitech diNovo Mini.
I would recommend the Inateck HB4003 Gigabit Ethernet & 3 Port USB 3.0 Hub. It has the micro usb adapter built into it as well as an ethernet port & a hub. If you want to use your TV remote instead of the nexus player, I would recommend getting a FLIRC usb adapter as well.
Thanks for the ideas! I'm really pumped lol.. Kodi sounds like a perfect fit for me. Are there any restrictions on hard drive size that can be connected?
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xaudiblex said:
I would recommend the Inateck HB4003 Gigabit Ethernet & 3 Port USB 3.0 Hub. It has the micro usb adapter built into it as well as an ethernet port & a hub. If you want to use your TV remote instead of the nexus player, I would recommend getting a FLIRC usb adapter as well.
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One thing I noticed with the HB4003 it looks like a regular USB end not a micro and the cable doesn't detach. Where you saying get that and the micro USB to USB female adapter? Thanks!
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talk2nate said:
One thing I noticed with the HB4003 it looks like a regular USB end not a micro and the cable doesn't detach. Where you saying get that and the micro USB to USB female adapter? Thanks!
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My mistake, you are right. Its has been so long ago since I put together my setup. I forgot that I also have a HooToo (HT-CT01) Micro USB OTG + 4 port charging hub as part of my setup (used to charge my cell phone, tablet, & game controllers). You will need a micro usb OTG cable if you go with the HB4003.
Regardless of which OTG cable you go with, make sure that it is a straight cable for OTG. If the otg device is a right/left angle cable or a short adapter, it won't work because of how scrunched the cables are.
xaudiblex said:
My mistake, you are right. Its has been so long ago since I put together my setup. I forgot that I also have a HooToo (HT-CT01) Micro USB OTG + 4 port charging hub as part of my setup (used to charge my cell phone, tablet, & game controllers). You will need a micro usb OTG cable if you go with the HB4003.
Regardless of which OTG cable you go with, make sure that it is a straight cable for OTG. If the otg device is a right/left angle cable or a short adapter, it won't work because of how scrunched the cables are.
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Thank you for replying! I'll order an OTG cable and the adapter you suggested. It not being powered isn't going to be an issue you think?
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Thank you for replying! I'll order an OTG cable and the adapter you suggested. It not being powered isn't going to be an issue you think?
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I've been thinking about this, and in this case it's better to get a powered usb hub, and plug a usb-ethernet adapter into that hub.
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It not being powered isn't going to be an issue you think?
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For me, it hasn't been an issue that the HB4003 is not powered. Then again, all I have connected is a FLIRC adapter, mini usb receiver for my Lenovo N9502 keyboard/mouse, & a thumb drive.
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I've been thinking about this, and in this case it's better to get a powered usb hub, and plug a usb-ethernet adapter into that hub.
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I chose the adapter to reduce clutter & reduce my millions of wire behind my TV. The way I see it, having one less USB connected device is one less thing to diagnose (I am always flashing roms & plugging & unplugging devices to the USB hub.
Hmm is this a viable option?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRY4YJW/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Bzuyvb0FJ38VS
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xaudiblex said:
For me, it hasn't been an issue that the HB4003 is not powered. Then again, all I have connected is a FLIRC adapter, mini usb receiver for my Lenovo N9502 keyboard/mouse, & a thumb drive.
I chose the adapter to reduce clutter & reduce my millions of wire behind my TV. The way I see it, having one less USB connected device is one less thing to diagnose (I am always flashing roms & plugging & unplugging devices to the USB hub.
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Yeah, but now having a ssd to increase userdata space is a valid method, it changes a limitation of the NP. For me personally I'll just hide away the clutter.
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talk2nate said:
Hmm is this a viable option?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRY4YJW/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Bzuyvb0FJ38VS
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Sadly, no one can tell you for sure unless they've tried it.
talk2nate said:
Hmm is this a viable option?
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This is what I have. Click here for my review on XDA. However, there is only 1 USB port that is connected to the OTG. The remaining 4 ports are for charging purposes only. If you need more than 1 USB port fort OTG purposes & possibly an ethernet port, I would get the HooToo and the Inateck.
The way mine is wired is:
Nexus player ---> Micro USB Cable (provided) ---> USB extension cable (OTG cable is short and wanted to hide the hub) ---> HooToo Hub (back HooToo USB OTG port) ---> Inateck Hub (Front of HooToo Hub)
xaudiblex said:
This is what I have. Click here for my review on XDA. However, there is only 1 USB port that is connected to the OTG. The remaining 4 ports are for charging purposes only. If you need more than 1 USB port fort OTG purposes & possibly an ethernet port, I would get the HooToo and the Inateck.
The way mine is wired is:
Nexus player ---> Micro USB Cable (provided) ---> USB extension cable (OTG cable is short and wanted to hide the hub) ---> HooToo Hub (back HooToo USB OTG port) ---> Inateck Hub (Front of HooToo Hub)
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Hehe...that's your setup? How is that reducing clutter?
If anything, removing the HooToo hub is reducing clutter, unless you need more than the OTG ports on the Inateck hub.
So micro to USB female > inateck hub with Ethernet is probably the best choice then.. I just wish I know it'd push a 1TB HDD and a Logitech K400.. Thats all I'd hook up to it.
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talk2nate said:
So micro to USB female > inateck hub with Ethernet is probably the best choice then.. I just wish I know it'd push a 1TB HDD and a Logitech K400.. Thats all I'd hook up to it.
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Most probably not as the 1TB hdd will require a powered usb hub.
Unless it's one of those that has it's own power source.
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Hehe...that's your setup? How is that reducing clutter?
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There is a method to my madness! It makes more sense when you see my setup.
My setup:
1x Harmony Smart Hub (USB Powered)
1x Winegard LNA-200 Boost XT Digital HDTV Preamplifier (USB Powered)
2x Micro USB Cables (Charging Tablet & Phone)
The Hootoo hub allows me to charge/power all 4 devices using 1 power brick instead of 4 individual power bricks. Having a functioning OTG was icing on the cake.
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So micro to USB female > inateck hub with Ethernet is probably the best choice then.. I just wish I know it'd push a 1TB HDD and a Logitech K400.
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Yes, that sounds right (make sure it says OTG). Is your 1TB HDD self-powered or is it powered through the USB port? If it is self-powered, it should work. I just plugged up my spare 1TB Fantom Self-Powered (power brick) HDD to see if it works and it seems to be okay. If it is not self-powered, it may be ymmv.
I have two HDDs actually. Both 1TB but one was in my desktop and I'd just order a powered enclosure for and the other is a western digital mobile drive without power.
So I'm pretty sure I'll go micro otg > inateck> powered HDD and Logitech K400.. That's really all I can see I'd use really. My TV is on the other side of the room. So not like I'll be walking over there much.
I'm stoked!
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talk2nate said:
I have two HDDs actually. Both 1TB but one was in my desktop and I'd just order a powered enclosure for and the other is a western digital mobile drive without power.
So I'm pretty sure I'll go micro otg > inateck> powered HDD and Logitech K400.. That's really all I can see I'd use really. My TV is on the other side of the room. So not like I'll be walking over there much.
I'm stoked!
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Why not plug the hdd into your router? It'll be accessible everywhere, easier to add/delete files on it.
My router is an older N 300 Cisco.. Sadly I've got no USB support for something like that atm. I'm looking into a router upgrade though. But the one I have has worked well for about 2 years now.
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My router is an older N 300 Cisco.. Sadly I've got no USB support for something like that atm. I'm looking into a router upgrade though. But the one I have has worked well for about 2 years now.
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Certainly something to consider.
But seriously, if all you're going to put on that hdd is media, plugging it into your PC and sharing it works the same as plugging it into a router (only bad point is that your PC needs to be switched on for the hdd to be accessible). If you're going to be plugging/unplugging your hdd from your Nexus Player just to add files, it gets old pretty fast.

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