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So I'm thinking about rooting my Nexus S and keeping the stock rom, now my question is if I do root will I not receive the OTA update for ICS or will I still get it?
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A little reading wouldn't have hurt............
Anyways, if you do not modify anything in /system then you should be fine. I wouldn't ever be worried about receiving an ota anyways. Chances are someone will post the full rom here before your phone ever recieves the ota notification.
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Thanks for the fast reply, I new I was going to get hit with the not reading part, but rooting was something I thought of on an impulse and I did as much reading as I could before I got into work so I thought I would ask for a quick answer. Now that I have the answer I have a lot more reading to do before I even try to root.
Thank you again for the answer.
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Frost0113 said:
So I'm thinking about rooting my Nexus S and keeping the stock rom, now my question is if I do root will I not receive the OTA update for ICS or will I still get it?
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You WILL get the OTA update
Guys sorry if this a noob question. But I just recently rooted as well .
I'm running stock rom and francos kernel. Will stock rom and diff kernel mess up if you accept ota?
I'm also looking at trying diff kernels like trinity teuv.
I know I have to wipe cache and dalvik when flashing another kernel however some state to reflash the rom as well. I'm on stock so nothing to really reflash . What steps should I take to make sure kernels don't conflict.
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I've had wifi driver issues when flashing kernel outside of rom flash also, sometimes it works fine, other times I get the wifi error. Do not update ota if your using a custom kernel and recovery, you must be 100% stock to do so. There are stock flashable roms however, google peter Alfonso, his stuff is in rom manager as well. Also bugless beast is a stock based rom with many improvements, very stable also. Perhaps check it out.
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I've had wifi driver issues when flashing kernel outside of rom flash also, sometimes it works fine, other times I get the wifi error. Do not update ota if your using a custom kernel and recovery, you must be 100% stock to do so. There are stock flashable roms however, google peter Alfonso, his stuff is in rom manager as well. Also bugless beast is a stock based rom with many improvements, very stable also. Perhaps check it out.
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Always disable wifi before flashing a rom. In fact putting your device into airplane mode is the safest bet.
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I'm not saying that's not good advice but I have done both and still had the error, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.
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If you're rooted, most likely you will not get the OTA notification. That's not a big deal. When ICS hits, it's going to hit here just as quick if not quicker. You'll most likely get an error if you try to flash an official OTA on a rooted device, has to be stock.
Btw, Oxygen is my ROM of choice, so I await his ICS 4.0 ROM anyway. Heck with the OTA.
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So I rooted today, before I rooted I was on 2.3.7 after I rooted I was on 2.3.4 and it told me there was an update, so I took the update the screen went black showed the picture of the Android with a ! Next to it, after about an hour I pulled the batter and when I booted back I was still on 2.3.4 and it no longer says I have an update.
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Manually update, look in rom manager under peter Alfonso for 2.37
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Im getting a Nexus 7 for christmas and im wondering if i decide to root the nexus 7 is it possible to go back to stock as its not amobile phone i cant think it would be to hard because i love the stock jelly bean 4.2 system but im wanting paranoid rom so i can get table ui on the nexus 7 but if i dont like it can i just go back to the stcok jelly bean rom?? (nexus 7 has been bought from offical google website)
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Why would you not like it...its stock plus so many more options.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
Check this thread:
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Well all im thinking is if the a new OTA update comes out or say for example Vinilla co co pops 5.2 comes out how the hell am i surposed to update to that like at the moment i have a htc oxe x and upateing to jelly bean just not even possible im just worryed that i wont be able to keep updateing when the ota's come out thas all im wanting to know if i root it and put custom roms on it i want to make 100% sure i can update it to the latest firmwere when they officaly come out
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This doesn't even matter, all the devs have the official ota update before it comes out due to Google dropping the source before they actually push it out.
Way better to root, you'll have the updates faster that way.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
While I personally prefer stock (with modifications of course) on my N7, it is trivial to revert these devices back to stock, or any other ROM, if you want to. You don't even need to revert and upgrade - you could just download the latest FULL image and flash your device that way, skipping the update step altogether.
But if updates are your only concern, I imagine most of the ROM developers would incorporate the new version into their ROMs very soon after the OTA drops.
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IF you do only one thing, unlock the bootloader before getting lived in on the device. I am rocking stock rooted myself. I am just watching till after cm10.1 hits stable then Ill try some roms out
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This.
Even if you don't run a custom rom initially, if the bootloader is unlocked, you can easily flash a custom recovery and rom later. The problem is that if you unlock all the internal storage gets wiped which is not the end of the world if you backup first but it's still a minor inconvenience.
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paranoid is great, but depends what you like. I love it fit the tablet interface and customization options. stock 4.2 had a lot of the same customization built in, so it's awesome as well.
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To me, its custom ROM or bust.
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Multi ROM
you may want to use Multi ROM.
Root your stock ROM.
Install Custom Recovery to install Multi ROM.
After installing Multi ROM, you may now install other or more ROMs inside.
Also, you have the option to auto-boot from stock ROM or from other ROM.
With that, you may access your stock ROM without removing your custom ROMs and vice versa.
Goodluck!
I unlocked and rooted my nexus 7 so that I could use otg cable---> a flash drive … I have extra storage now. Just download an app called stick mount an your all set...
Rooting should be the first thing you should do. As others said you can keep it stock if you want. Only difference is you get to install apps like titanium backup and file managers like root explorer. You also will have a custom recovery so you can backup your latest STABLE and smooth ROM so you can revert back if you ever run into trouble like the 4.2 OTA debacle.
As far as any maintenance and fixing issues... having root makes it a breeze as factory resets just mean in 10 minutes you are back in businesses, you just need redo your screens.
I took the plunge and after rooting I installed this: [EXPERIMENTAL] MultiROM v3
Now I'm running stock along with a few other ROMS, including Ubuntu.
Hey, I'm about to get my N4 next week and I wanted to ask... If I root my phone and use a custom kernel (Franco/AK/Faux etc...) will i still get OTA updates from the stock rom? will the root/custom kernel cause problems with those updates? Cause I wanna use some apps that require root but I want to be able to update with android 4.4 somewhere in the near future
thanks.
You will get the updates but you won't be able to update right away.
You got some options:
1.Unroot, Flash stoch recovery and kernel and then update.
3.Sideload the update and re-root.
Maybe there are other methods that I don't know off but well, this is all I got.
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Go ahead and do it. You can always revert to stock by flashing the stock kernel during the time of updates. You may install a custom ROM as well. Moving from one ROM to another or stock barely takes time and you wouldn't lose any personal data, you can backup everything necessary in a few mins.
The nexus 4 is a Dev friendly device, so feel free to enjoy the nexus by flashing your fav kernel or rom's. Everything will be simple enough once you give it a try.
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Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
I am. Of course the factory images will probably be released before OTA so I will flash them instead
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When is the release date? the 28th or is it a rumor
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No one knows for sure = rumor
I am
I'm on PA now, but will probably go back to stock when 4.4 arrives. As I heard over at ParanoidAndroid Community on G+ on 4.4 they're going to make it all over again, so it's going to take time.
Waited for PA 4.3, not going to wait again for 4.4
I am currently back on stock in anticipation of that sweet chocolatey crunch.
I can use AOSP or stock as long as Xposed Framework is working for it too.
After what happened with 4.3 update -_- I am going to wait for couple days before jumping to Kit Kat. Probably will wait for PA Kit Kat rom.
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I literally just flashed back to stock today. However, I am considering flashing another rom because I keep losing data on stock. I can always flash the system image for KitKat when it's released.
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I m already on stock. Will I get the OTA if iam on a rooted stock ROM?
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I'll go back to stock just to have the vanilla experience for awhile before jumping on a rom.
always been on stock rom rooted and twrp installed phone always takes ota updates just fine ......never seen any point flashing custom rom on this phone as phone is pretty cool as is ...only issue i have with the nexus 4 is that they knocked 100 off price 3 weeks after i purchased haha but love this phone
Will probably flash back to stock and then restore my current ROM as a second rom.
I will flash factory images and start all over with a fresh new phone. Hopefully it still has root. I wanna stick with stock for awhile now sick of various bugs here and there. For example, on cm my GPS takes hours to lock and even when it locks it isn't precise but on PA, GPS works just fine. The phone also lags here and there like when I initially turn it on from sleep and try to unlock or pull notification bar down. For me stock has always been faster than custom ROMs even though they have some really useful features
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I just got a new nexus 7 2013. So I left that stock and lucky me on my Nexus 4 started getting base band unknown on anything but stock JWR rooted. So clean wiped and flashed stock. I had a Neo kernel system folder with scripts I couldn't delete. Feel much better now, couldn't say if I had ever clean wiped since getting the phone.
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I will flash factory images.. I don't want to wait the OTA..
Already stock except for the kernel. Just a quick 'fastboot flash boot boot.img' of the stock 4.3 kernel and I'll be all set for OTA or Factory Images (though Factory Images would mean I don't even need to waste time reflashing stock 4.3 kernel.)
Probably going to use default stock launcher for awhile depending on the changes instead of Smart Launcher. Really like the rumors/previews we've seen of it so far. Especially since I am so embedded with Google Now. The left panel swipe would be awesome I think.
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Just wondering who is planning to go back to stock for KitKat?
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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I do absolut! I'm tired of custom ROMs with full bug and error. Just today I m back to stock. I've only root.
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Exactly that
That solved nearly all of my problem's
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I would but I can't live without franko kernel or PIE, so I'll wait for Pa update
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Okay im coming from 2 awesome years as a gnex user to the g2, which so far i LOVE! I bought it used and it was on latest ota so i rooted using the latest ioroot and flashed twrp using freegee and i want to mess around with roms but i keep seeing things talking about Loki this and that and brick here and there. So i would like to know what steps are needed to flash Mallidus rom since im liking stock for now and all of this talk is foreign to me being a nexus user ..everything was easy on it..
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Okay im coming from 2 awesome years as a gnex user to the g2, which so far i LOVE! I bought it used and it was on latest ota so i rooted using the latest ioroot and flashed twrp using freegee and i want to mess around with roms but i keep seeing things talking about Loki this and that and brick here and there. So i would like to know what steps are needed to flash Mallidus rom since im liking stock for now and all of this talk is foreign to me being a nexus user ..everything was easy on it..
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Just root and install Xposed installer, that is all
Modules I use:
Any help for hotspot hack if I stay stock?
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If you flashed a proper lokified recovery everything is pretty much the same as the gnex. Format system, data, and cache. Then flash whatever rom you want. It's also a good idea to backup your EFS partition. There is a flashable zip in the development section that will make a zip of those partitions.
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If you flashed a proper lokified recovery everything is pretty much the same as the gnex. Format system, data, and cache. Then flash whatever rom you want. It's also a good idea to backup your EFS partition. There is a flashable zip in the development section that will make a zip of those partitions.
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According to that there should be a option in my version of twrp, I think it was like 2.6.3.3 also there is a option in freegee to backup efs. .in quick terms what exactly is it for and place it on pc for a just in case?
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Also you mentioned "properly lokified recovery" how can I confirm this?
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What ever you dont whipe internal data
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What ever you dont whipe internal data
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Lol thanks
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ANTLAY said:
Any help for hotspot hack if I stay stock?
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45868740 .
Also, I've gone back and forth a lot between stock recovery and custom. I have had some poor luck flashing some mods. I am currently running rooted with stock recovery and don't miss a thing. I use g2 xposed for tweaks and have added a number of mods manually (hotspot, lg browser that works in qslide, split window). For mods that flash in recovery i have had a lot of success opening the zip, reading the update script and performing the actions manually (for split window i downloaded an app for build.prop modding). No regrets. I also found that i can perform the factory reset and don't lose any of the permanent mods I made (i.e. non g2 xposed mods). Didn't even lose root (superuser app in system\app).
I've noticed a lot of former gnex users jumped to the g2 (myself included). Must be that 2 year upgrade cycle. I loved (and still have) my gnex, but this phone blows it out of the water (the screen alone... amoled what?).
Good luck and enjoy!
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Thanks for the info, and I feel you on the love for the gnex but man it just has nothing on this phone...at all really, although I will say it spoiled me in the flashing dept,I don't think I ever checked a single md5 the whole time I had it. I never used xposed on the gnex so forgive me..but what would be something I'd want to possibly change through the g2 xposed module?
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Also is it safe (if I ever decided to) reboot into twrp and wipe cache/dalvik on stock rom?
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Also is it safe (if I ever decided to) reboot into twrp and wipe cache/dalvik on stock rom?
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It's safe. A few times i ended up with the persistent "android is upgrading" message on every boot, but I'm pretty sure that was more from the mods i was trying. Really bad luck with flashing, can't tell you how many times i perform the Verizon return to stock procedure. Thought i actually bricked it once, but saved it. You are right about the gnex, unbrickable. I kept it as my insurance in case I ever actually brick this (they even have a fully functioning kitkat for it free of graphics glitches).
As far as g2 xposed, it can modify most anything you could want to, not to mention there are other mods for the xposed framework. I also never knew about it before my g2. You can modify the nav bar (height, # buttons, assign buttons, color, glow, get rid of it), modify the status bar (hide system icons, prevent certain notifications, change time/date format) and many other things. Costs $1 for all the features (worth it), free for some. A new version was just uploaded to the play store today. If you just install it, it will walk you through getting the xposed framework.
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The first part of your post alone makes me want to leave it alone, lol I'll probably do the hotspot mod and be done for the time being, lol
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The first part of your post alone makes me want to leave it alone, lol I'll probably do the hotspot mod and be done for the time being, lol
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Yeah, reading it again it does sound pretty bad. Just so you know, i was trying to keep with the stock os (not even a custom rom based on the stock os). I think you are fine if the very first thing you flash is a custom rom.
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I came from a long line of Nexus devices and the stock rom is awesome FWIW.
Just root and install Xposed G2 Settings. Change the DPI from 480 > 400 too. Much better.
im taking the leap to g2 tomorrow from my current gnex i still didnt quiet understand this "lokified" term. so lokified is a kernel/rom that we can flash ? is there anything called unlockified or nonlockified ? im a little lost, plz assist me if its not so much trouble
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im taking the leap to g2 tomorrow from my current gnex i still didnt quiet understand this "lokified" term. so lokified is a kernel/rom that we can flash ? is there anything called unlockified or nonlockified ? im a little lost, plz assist me if its not so much trouble
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Loki is just the hack used to root I think. Its a script that does the work on your device. I think we need Loki enabled recoveries that can use and utilize the script.
I came from a Galaxy Nexus too. Its a tad different, since you root first, then install recovery. Root requires running a bat file from your PC where it copies the Loki script. Recovery is downloaded and flashed with FreeGee from the Play Store.
But honestly, like I said before, the stock ROM is pretty amazing. Gots lots of bells and whistles no found on AOSP ROMs. If I flashed anything it would be a Flex ROM only because its like Stock+.
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Loki is just the hack used to root I think. Its a script that does the work on your device. I think we need Loki enabled recoveries that can use and utilize the script.
I came from a Galaxy Nexus too. Its a tad different, since you root first, then install recovery. Root requires running a bat file from your PC where it copies the Loki script. Recovery is downloaded and flashed with FreeGee from the Play Store.
But honestly, like I said before, the stock ROM is pretty amazing. Gots lots of bells and whistles no found on AOSP ROMs. If I flashed anything it would be a Flex ROM only because its like Stock+.
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oh good to have people from gnex here , thanks for the explanation. so basically after we root a script (loki thing) is stored in the phone somewhere which allows flashing of roms ! correct? , seems like i gotta read up. post any links if possible im going through the general section and the d802 section as well
You new guys coming over (that's funny, I haven't had the phone a week yet) need to give the stock ROM a chance. Run it rooted so you've got the access and capabilities, install G2 Xposed at a minimum, and go from there. I came from a Rezound I had running CleanRom and pretty heavily tweaked to my liking. The ONLY things I've done to my G2 since getting it on Sunday were to Root, Selectively Debloat, Install G2 Xposed and tweak, and install Apex Launcher because I like having the multipage scrollable lower dock, and if you use G2 Xposed to shorten the height of the navbar, you get an unsightly gap between the navbar and dock unless you use a different than stock launcher.
Doing all the above, the ONLY thing I've lost is the stock pinch out to show the desktop feature. Not a big loss. I had to install screen locker and set double tap in Apex to lock the screen so it still functions exactly as knock off, and knock on was unaffected.
I see absolutely no reason to install a custom rom unless you absolutely MUST have Kit Kat. Most of the aftermarket ROM's I've seen have a "what doesn't work" list. I'd rather have it all work.