One of my favorite features and reasons to buy unlocked - Galaxy Note II General

I'm here in the US using an AT&T sim. I am so sick of the terrible carriers putting their little fingers and logos into all these devices.
My least favorite of these new things is the carrier logo in the top left of the notification shade.
This is a gross mis-use of the notification bar and AT&T and Verizon and the rest need to knock it off.
I'm happy (really really really happy) to report that the N7100 does NOT do this. Love it!
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My International Note 1 does not have this either
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Hummm.... My locked Note (purchased from T-Mobile), does not say "T-Mobile" anywhere in the notification bar either. It's one of the first things I noticed when I bought it a couple of months ago.
It does have a permanently-emblazoned T-Mobile logo painted on it directly below the earpiece though
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Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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I was wondering the same thing.

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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For me LTE is huge as AT&T is extremely fast around here. Faster than my Fios connection. That plus I'm due for an upgrade so I'll pay the greatly reduced price for the device.

I dunno about you... but that's not true on my HTC Sensation... also it might be from the manufacturer (at least you know who's network you are on if you're roaming).
I don't think I've ever seen that... Then again, I don't usually buy Samsung phones

I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?

LTE is nice but if it's going to make the note battery act like the battery on my gnex then I'd be willing to go without
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I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.

ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
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You are making a lot of assumptions (price and availability date), none of which have been confirmed.
Nevertheless I agree with you on what you are trying to say.

ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
I mean, I have ATT and am ready to drop the cash on an international version, but I just can't seem to do it. I use Netflix a lot (don't worry, I pay a healthy amont for data) and it sucks mostly on my GSM GNEX. Stuttering and buffering. I just want a fast connection, and the LTE note is worth waiting 9 days on, IMO...
The 2500mAh battery on the AT&T LTE Note lasts all day.
The 3100mAh will be better. Food for thought.
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I don't like being locked into a contract, especially since in Canada they're 3 years. For that reason alone it's not worth going for the subsidized phone, for my needs anyways.
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Slap-Yourself :) said:
I really really despise carrier branding..... Are US carriers the only ones that do this?
I'm just not sure what I should do? I've always had TMO and Sprint, but lately they've been horribly slow.
So I'm also curious, IS LTE/4G the only positive for the US Note II?
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well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
ericshmerick said:
I wonder if threads like the OPs are just people trying to make themselves feel better for dropping $700 on a phone that can be had in 9 days for $299 (or less).
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Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)

Maybe for you... I've got to pay full retail for mines ($650-$700) and if you think about it, that's how much you pay too over the length of your contract (don't get fooled by marketing tricks... that's why I despise american carriers.)
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But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.

ericshmerick said:
But you still need service of some kind, which isn't free. I pay $48/month for seemingly unlimited rollover minutes (like 3000+) and 5gig of tethering data (200 texts) and free M2M on ATT. I have a company discount.
I know many readers are't in the US and don't have an add a line, but it's very cheap for me to keep ATT, contract or not. The monthly fee is higher every where else for me.
I mean I get the "well you are paying $2,000 for that phone!" arguments, but really you need to add in the cost of any service unless you are using it 100% on wifi (which nobody does). Add that in with a full non-contract price phone and then post.
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Well, I'm on T-Mobile's Value plan which is a 2 year plan w/o any subsidies but you save enough for 1.5 phones... although your plan sounds pretty decent... either it's grandfathered or you've got some sick company discount, but in either case, the phone wouldn't be $300 for you... that would require a 2 year commitment (not sure how they handle grandfathered plans)

achusaysblessyou said:
well... considering the only carrier branding is on the back cover... if you buy a replacement battery door, you'll have a note 2 that looks like the international one...
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Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)

ROB281 said:
Is LTE speed the only reason to buy a carrier branded note?
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Yep, the only reason. I can understand why it's a great thing for people to use LTE, but personally I have wifi everywhere I go and I barely use my monthly data. Even though in some cases LTE can be faster than wifi, wifi is plenty fast for anything you wanna do. So I prefer the international version for development support. But the development for the LTE versions shouldn't be too bad either since they're using the same SoC.

For me HSPA+ is plenty......haven't been on a contract in 4 years. Straight Talk service is LEGIT everywhere i go.....so besides getting the phone early, that is the reason i buy unlocked. Could really care less about carrier branding.

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Well, do you think they'll be interchangeable? Weren't the back covers different between the AT&T and International ones different? (Looked the same but weren't interchangeable)
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Which phone are you talking about? I think the Note II should be safe as the only thing they added between the models was just a different LTE chip (or not even if it was just a matter of flashing a new radio). I mean everything's pretty much the same in terms of specs so they didn't do any radical re-engineering, also the flip covers also replace the back cover, so if you get one of those that should remove the branding (at least on the T-Mo and AT&T ones, who knows what the Verizon one will look like). Just don't buy a fake as the NFC chip is in the back.

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If not the Nexus S/2 .... then what??

I havent done much research on the N2 so Im not sure what to expect. But Im just curious, what device would you upgrade to in the near future. If the N2 isnt up to par ( i will wait till it is available to decide ) i would prob just wait till something great came out. The G2 looks great, but not spectacular. As far as Im concerned, the N1 is still a beast among the Androids....maybe Ill keep the N1 and get a Galaxy Tab
I personally just got the nexus a few weeks ago. I paid $450 brand new in box.
Tossled with the idea of selling it, and also had a buyer, but I decided to keep it. For someone like me, its a great starter phone to learn android on without the worry of bricking it (done that with the jasjar in the past) and I think its slim as hell.
I'd wait for something thats as slim, and maybe even that foldable Amoled screen in the Samsung video (just kidding).
When I do upgrade to a thin Samsung I will still keep the Nexy. Even if it means saving up longer for a $480 phone. The nexus is just a collectors piece for a techie like me that I'd like to keep framed someday, in a display case. even if it won't be worth anything in my lifetime.
Cheers.
Another great thing about the N1 is the built in tethering and WiFi hotspot.
ATT unlimited data plan + free wifi hotspot and tethering= no brainer.
The build quality is the sugar on top.
and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
Being compatible with ATT 3G and having free hotspot and tethering is a once in a lifetime thing. I'm going to get me the wifi only Galaxy tab and use it ANYWHERE I want via N1 wifi hotspot...imagine THAT!
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and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
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I asked about this before saying that if the Nexus S is sold at T-Mobile/Att stores then they are going to have the IMEI #s and will block the phones from using web-2-go type of dumbphone data plans (the best feature of the N1) and also might have some control over OS features like tethering?
One guy on here said that the Nexus S might be sold through BestBuy / Walmart / RadioShack instead of T-mobile / Att stores and might bypass the carriers again like the original N1 did so that T-Mobile/Att wont have any say on what the phone can or can't do.
Here's hoping the NexusS never EVER is sold at a T-Mobile/Att store
Old MuckenMire said:
Another great thing about the N1 is the built in tethering and WiFi hotspot.
ATT unlimited data plan + free wifi hotspot and tethering= no brainer.
The build quality is the sugar on top.
and just for the sake of arguing, let's say the Nexus S comes out available on ATT: I can guarantee it will be without the hotspot and tethering options. That was added to the N1 after the fact via OS upgrade. No way ATT will ever allow that again, imo. Not for free the way it is now.
Being compatible with ATT 3G and having free hotspot and tethering is a once in a lifetime thing. I'm going to get me the wifi only Galaxy tab and use it ANYWHERE I want via N1 wifi hotspot...imagine THAT!
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ever heard of a custom rom ?
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ever heard of a custom rom ?
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yeah I'm running one but that is not the same as it coming stock, which is what one has to assume, since not everyone will be willing or able to root.
But since you need it spelled out: free wifi hotspot and free tethering coming STOCK is a once in a lifetime thing.
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I asked about this before saying that if the Nexus S is sold at T-Mobile/Att stores then they are going to have the IMEI #s and will block the phones from using web-2-go type of dumbphone data plans (the best feature of the N1) and also might have some control over OS features like tethering?
One guy on here said that the Nexus S might be sold through BestBuy / Walmart / RadioShack instead of T-mobile / Att stores and might bypass the carriers again like the original N1 did so that T-Mobile/Att wont have any say on what the phone can or can't do.
Here's hoping the NexusS never EVER is sold at a T-Mobile/Att store
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With the way ATT is clamping down on data(no more unlimited data for new customers) I would be shocked if another device is ever ATT compatible and also contain free hotspot and tethering, no-matter where it is sold. If I'm wrong, I might get the NS given the dual core processor. That MIGHT be enough for me to overlook the build quality. I certainly agree with you regarding not selling the NS thru ATT/tmobile stores. Fudge them.
I'd also like to wait and see the battery life under the new dual processor phones before plunging into them.
I think someone made a worthy mention in another thread: phone technology is advancing, but is battery technology advancing too?
I hope it will tho in the future
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I'd also like to wait and see the battery life under the new dual processor phones before plunging into them.
I think someone made a worthy mention in another thread: phone technology is advancing, but is battery technology advancing too?
I hope it will tho in the future
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Processors are also getting much more energy efficient, plus having a fast CPU without any CPU intensive apps (most apps would run fine on a single core 100-200MHz CPU) makes it more efficient in itself.
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.
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If not the Nexus S/2 .... then what??
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Nexus One.
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Nexus One.
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The Nexus is a great phone, but I want HSPA+ so I'd have to say pick up a G2 on Craigslist. They are under $400.00 already and dropping.
If you've had your Nexus a while and are just itching for something different thats what I'd get.
I mean if Nexus S is HSPA+ I will be getting one, if not then probably a G2.
Okay you're right but other than that I'd stay with the Nexus One.
Atleast that's what I'm doing for now. We don't even have HSPA+ or LTE or whatever here yet, haha
Samsung said they are releasing a dualcore, 4" Super AMOLED 2 (yep, 2) MONSTAH first quarter of 2011.
That's what I'm waiting for. If you're spending 500+ bucks, might as well spend it good.
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With the way ATT is clamping down on data(no more unlimited data for new customers) I would be shocked if another device is ever ATT compatible and also contain free hotspot and tethering, no-matter where it is sold. If I'm wrong, I might get the NS given the dual core processor. That MIGHT be enough for me to overlook the build quality. I certainly agree with you regarding not selling the NS thru ATT/tmobile stores. Fudge them.
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Vibrant has ATT radio so that might work
Keeping the Nexus One for now. Will think about the Ns if it's build is solid & has HSPA+
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what about this bad boy?
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http://www.cnet.com/8301-19736_1-20022976-251.html
what about this bad boy?
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ugly as s***
even this moto looks better
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Processors are also getting much more energy efficient, plus having a fast CPU without any CPU intensive apps (most apps would run fine on a single core 100-200MHz CPU) makes it more efficient in itself.
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.
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If we get a Samsung built unbranded google phone with an Orion processor it'll be the nexus successor hands down, it'll have the best internals and be completely shrouded in controversy just like the N1. Either way if the Orion is there I'm buying it.
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Award Tour said:
Edit: TBH, the Nexus S is really the only "must have" phone. If it has the Orion chip it'll compete with everything else through early 2012. You might seem some advancements in camera performance, maybe more RAM/ROM, but spec-wise, what else would there be to improve upon? Then there's the fact that all other flagship phones will be running Touchwiz/Sense/etc. and will be at the mercy of the OEMs/Carriers to receive future support/updates.
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Better touch screen, better 3G radio performance/location (maybe even dual radios like I think it's Nokia that does it). Better headjack (recessed headjack = dumb idea, it failed miserably on the first iPhone for a reason). Better gaming performance (which would come as part of the Orion Processor).
I love my N1, but it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
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[Q] Should I upgrade now?

Hey guys, this is my first post on these forums.
Lately, I have been trying to figure out if I should upgrade to the Atrix now, or wait until the iPhone 5 comes out. Right now I have an iPhone 3GS. Android in general has been intriguing me. I've had an iPhone since it first came out, and have said since that I could never imagine using any other type of phone, but right now I think I'd welcome the change. I just don't know if I should upgrade now or not.
Obviously, the next iPhone will have the dual-core A5 processor, possibly 4G, a bigger screen, and a better camera. It just comes down to OS.
AT&T is the worst carrier of Android phones. But the Atrix looks really good. It hits that sweet spot of screen size and it won't look like I'm holding a brick to my face every time I make a phone call.
If I were to get the Atrix I'd root it and put Gingerblur on it. I love stock Android. If the LG G2X was on AT&T I'd jump right on it. That phone looks beautiful.
I just need help deciding if I should either:
1) Upgrade soon and get the Atrix.
2) Wait for the iPhone 5.
3) Wait for an even better Android phone to be released on AT&T.
My requirements for upgrading are for it to have 4G and probably not a Samsung device, because I've heard they take the longest to upgrade. Like I said, I love stock Android, but I also like HTC Sense and my least favorite is Motoblur. However I don't find this as much of an issue since it can be changed using Gingerblur.
Any opinions would be appreciated, especially from iPhone converts.
Thanks!
I got a IPhone 4g from bell, was 149.99 at BestBuy (canada)
Jailbroke it, Played around with the camera/pictures. Even though its jail broken it still has limitations
Got BORING fast...Two days after the purchase I returned it and picked up an atrix.
This thing is not fully cracked open yet (development with the bootloader.)
Atrix > Iphone
Atrix has a bigger and better community I find compare to Itouch/Iphone websites. Once this bootloader is cracked open. It’s going to be pouring on these forums of New Apps and hardware tweaks etc.
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IPhone 5g WILL be more secure than the IPad 2 and the IPhone 4g 4.3.1 update.
Causing jailbreaking harder to accomplish.
I used to jailbreak but haven't done it in a long time. Too much hassle. I always get worried about freezing my phone and then spending hours restoring and getting everything back into place.
Android not even being rooted is more open than iOS.
By the way, I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone. If I get the Atrix, can I keep it?
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I used to jailbreak but haven't done it in a long time. Too much hassle. I always get worried about freezing my phone and then spending hours restoring and getting everything back into place.
Android not even being rooted is more open than iOS.
By the way, I have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone. If I get the Atrix, can I keep it?
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Yes, you can keep your unlimited data. Don't let any salespeople tell you anything else. And no special 4g data plan crap.
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for you i would think you should get an inspire just because
1) it has sense
2)it has a slight ios feel so their won't be a huge learning curve
3)can load custom ROM'S so it is more future-proof
4)has a WAY BETTER camera
5)battery life isn't to bad if you use a good kernel
6)has better support than the atrix
those are the reasons i think that you would like the inspire and are also the reasons i want an inspire instead of the atrix except #2 because after using android im never going back to ios
Well, two things. If I get the unlimited data, can I also get the 200 text for $5? Or will I only be able to get the 1000 text for $10?
And I don't really want the Inspire because it's just too big, and I know it's silly, but I want a device with a dual-core processor.
I was pretty much in your situation a few weeks ago. I was coming from an iPhone 3G and decided to go with the Atrix. I checked out all the new phones, and the Atrix was the best option.
In my opinion this is a really nice, quality phone. Now that I have had it for a week or so, I can definitely say I am glad I made the switch to Android. While it does take a little getting used to, it is just sooo nice being able to have some actual control. One thing I will say though, is that Motoblur is pretty terrible. It sounds like you already plan on taking care of that though if you get the phone.
My advice would be to grab an Atrix from Amazon Wireless for $99, you won't be disappointed. The iOS is just so boring in comparison, and I doubt that whatever the iPhone 5 uses will be much of a departure from what it is currently running.
Edit: I saw somewhere that Best Buy was having a sale for $29.99, in case that may sway your decision one way or the other.
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Option 3.........
But atrix now. When iphone 5 comes out
Sell atrix on craigslist and but iphone 5
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MrCooper2012 said:
I was pretty much in your situation a few weeks ago. I was coming from an iPhone 3G and decided to go with the Atrix. I checked out all the new phones, and the Atrix was the best option.
In my opinion this is a really nice, quality phone. Now that I have had it for a week or so, I can definitely say I am glad I made the switch to Android. While it does take a little getting used to, it is just sooo nice being able to have some actual control. One thing I will say though, is that Motoblur is pretty terrible. It sounds like you already plan on taking care of that though if you get the phone.
My advice would be to grab an Atrix from Amazon Wireless for $99, you won't be disappointed. The iOS is just so boring in comparison, and I doubt that whatever the iPhone 5 uses will be much of a departure from what it is currently running.
Edit: I saw somewhere that Best Buy was having a sale for $29.99, in case that may sway your decision one way or the other.
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Amazon only has it for $149. Bestbuy has it for $29 only for new customers, but I can get it for $99 from them.
And the problem with option 3 is when is AT&T going to come out with another android device?
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Save your upgrade
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I think my next phone will be an android phone. Just not the atrix. I wish the g2x was on at&t :/
Perez92 said:
I think my next phone will be an android phone. Just not the atrix. I wish the g2x was on at&t :/
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Oh well, it's not.
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Still contemplating on getting the Atrix. I keep looking around and see mixed experiences.
And is the galaxy s ii coming to at&t? it looks like a cool phone. a little large and a samsung device but i keep seeing people wanting to switch to it.
Perez92 said:
Still contemplating on getting the Atrix. I keep looking around and see mixed experiences.
And is the galaxy s ii coming to at&t? it looks like a cool phone. a little large and a samsung device but i keep seeing people wanting to switch to it.
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I have the Captivate since day 1. I have been saving my upgrade for an awesome Android phone, like SGS2 or Infuse. The issue there is that there is no exact release date yet and I'm freaking tired of waiting cause this Captivate is crap now!
This is what I did tonight.....I saw Best Buy has the Atrix on sale and I think the Inspire is still on sale, not sure. I asked if I would lose my unlimited data and if I would be charged any restocking fee if I return the phone within the 30 days. They answered NO for both. So I immediately bought the Atrix! Now I have a brand new phone for 30 days while I wait for any updates on the SGS2 and Infuse lol
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I have the Captivate since day 1. I have been saving my upgrade for an awesome Android phone, like SGS2 or Infuse. The issue there is that there is no exact release date yet and I'm freaking tired of waiting cause this Captivate is crap now!
This is what I did tonight.....I saw Best Buy has the Atrix on sale and I think the Inspire is still on sale, not sure. I asked if I would lose my unlimited data and if I would be charged any restocking fee if I return the phone within the 30 days. They answered NO for both. So I immediately bought the Atrix! Now I have a brand new phone for 30 days while I wait for any updates on the SGS2 and Infuse lol
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Both the Infuse and the SGS2 are just too big. The biggest things holding me back from the Atrix is Motoblur and the camera.
Since you upgraded and kept your unlimited data, what text messaging plan do you have? My dad only wants to upgrade as long as he doesnt have to spend more on the bill, so I'd prefer if it stayed at $35.
Perez92 said:
Both the Infuse and the SGS2 are just too big. The biggest things holding me back from the Atrix is Motoblur and the camera.
Since you upgraded and kept your unlimited data, what text messaging plan do you have? My dad only wants to upgrade as long as he doesnt have to spend more on the bill, so I'd prefer if it stayed at $35.
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You dont have to change anything on your current plan. I asked the rep at best buy and he told me everything will remain exactly as I had it. He only had to change a code on my unlimited data cause of the 4G. I have the unlimited text for family cause I have a family plan. I've always had unlimited text though even when I had my own individual account. It's a good thing to have the unlimited texting plan because it includes unlimited calling to ANY mobile (not sure if you knew that). So that allowed me to lower my minutes plan and save money in the process lol
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You dont have to change anything on your current plan. I asked the rep at best buy and he told me everything will remain exactly as I had it. He only had to change a code on my unlimited data cause of the 4G. I have the unlimited text for family cause I have a family plan. I've always had unlimited text though even when I had my own individual account. It's a good thing to have the unlimited texting plan because it includes unlimited calling to ANY mobile (not sure if you knew that). So that allowed me to lower my minutes plan and save money in the process lol
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I'm on a family plan as well. I'd love unlimited texting however I've been managing to live with 200 texts a month. I'll mention that to my dad. He's always looking on ways to save money.
I think I'm going to wait until the Galaxy S II or the iPhone 5.
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I think I'm going to wait until the Galaxy S II or the iPhone 5.
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Could be months away...

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Just a little place for us N7 2013 LTE users to hang out with other Deb users...
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Just a little place for us N7 2013 LTE users to hang out with other Deb users...
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What carrier is everyone using? I use mine on Verizon and am very happy with it.
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What carrier is everyone using? I use mine on Verizon and am very happy with it.
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I'm actually using a US version Deb on Vodafone in India...
They're pretty much the Indian Verizon...
High priced, with better customer service compared to the others.
Probably gonna go with T-mo or Straight Talk when I'm in the US this summer...
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What carrier is everyone using?
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I use my German Nexus 7 2013 on the T-Mobile network. T-Mobile here is mostly like Verizon, fastest network and best coverage, but high premium price as well. I'm on it through a re-seller which means I pay 14€ per month instead of 35€ (just have to cancel the contract in time). It's working pretty well, unless I'm in a pretty small town, I get good 4G coverage. No need to complain so far.
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I'm actually using a US version Deb on Vodafone in India...
They're pretty much the Indian Verizon...
High priced, with better customer service compared to the others.
Probably gonna go with T-mo or Straight Talk when I'm in the US this summer...
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I don't own a deb but is though I'd say that this also describes Verizon. They are practically the same exact way
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I don't own a deb but is though I'd say that this also describes Verizon. They are practically the same exact way
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Yeah. Verizon is expensive, but you get your money's worth. If you want a good-speed data connection just about anywhere you live, work, or travel within the US, Verizon and AT&T are really your only choices.
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Yeah. Verizon is expensive, but you get your money's worth. If you want a good-speed data connection just about anywhere you live, work, or travel within the US, Verizon and AT&T are really your only choices.
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That is absolutely true
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Though it does amaze me how much they charge for 1GB of data in the US.
I pay 5$ for 1 GB 3G data... You guys probably pay at least 25$. The carriers get away with murder there. ?
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Though it does amaze me how much they charge for 1GB of data in the US.
I pay 5$ for 1 GB 3G data... You guys probably pay at least 25$. The carriers get away with murder there. ?
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Well you have to understand that the US is one of the largest countries on Earth and we expect coverage basically everywhere. US carriers have enormous overhead to cover such a large area and thus, we pay more than other countries because of that. It's simple math, really.
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Hello my fellow Debbs. Just wanted to pop in a say hi. It's a lonely world out there with all these Flo's taken the stage. Nice place to come hang out. Time to head off to work, I'm sure I'll see you around the threads.:good:
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Hello my fellow Debbies. Just wanted to pop in a say hi. It's a lonely world out there with all these Flo's taken the stage. Nice place to come hang out. Time to head off to work, I'm sure I'll see you around the threads.:good:
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Debbies?
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I use my German Nexus 7 2013 on the T-Mobile network. T-Mobile here is mostly like Verizon, fastest network and best coverage, but high premium price as well. I'm on it through a re-seller which means I pay 14€ per month instead of 35€ (just have to cancel the contract in time). It's working pretty well, unless I'm in a pretty small town, I get good 4G coverage. No need to complain so far.
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What reseller is that? I'm mulling over getting a LTE sim for my N7, but the "original" T-Mobile or Vodafone contracts are a little steep for my taste.
Hello
Italian deb user here. Very satisfied with the device. A question: how are data plan caps (limit) and prices overall?
Here I am with h3g, 1 GB x Day, 20 € month... 4g.
A little high for me.
Bye
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Jesus dude relax, just being light hearted. Deb/flo...feminine names? Just playing off the name is all. Edited my post so you can rest a bit more easy now.
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Jesus dude relax, just being light hearted. Deb/flo...feminine names? Just playing off the name is all. Edited my post so you can rest a bit more easy now.
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You thought I was seriously offended? :what:
You can call people Debbies or Stacies or whatever.
JASN_DE said:
What reseller is that? I'm mulling over getting a LTE sim for my N7, but the "original" T-Mobile or Vodafone contracts are a little steep for my taste.
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I grabbed a nice offer from sparhandy.de which I found via mydealz.de, 5GB T-Mobile plan via mobilcom-debitel for 35€ and sparhandy pays me 22€ back each month for the 24 month contract. You have to have a bit of luck and frequent those bargain websites, but there are often good data plan offerings there. 5GB was a bit overkill for me, but it was only 3€ more expensive than the 3GB option and there was nothing below that, so I grabbed it.
UK deb owner here, paying 15 GBP (currently about 24.50 USD) per month for 10GB on the Three network. At the moment I'm only using about .5GB so I could drop to a lower tariff any time.
Loving the deb, though. Faster and smoother than anything else I've got, including my pc.
I'd be interested to know why you all went for the deb. In my case, I connect to my home pc while out and about so that I can check my webcam motion detector, run apps on the pc, download/upload files from the pc, and so on. As well as keeping up with websites, Twitter, and forums, and rss feeds with the new Play Newsstand app.
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Though it does amaze me how much they charge for 1GB of data in the US.
I pay 5$ for 1 GB 3G data... You guys probably pay at least 25$. The carriers get away with murder there. ?
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My dad had unlimited data on 3g
They made him switch off when going to 4g
He pays roughly the same amount for 2gb on 4g add he did for unlimited 3g
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Debbies....
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/12/05/download-android-4-4-1-ota-kot49e-for-the-nexus-7-2013-lte/
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Note 4 not available from Sprint.

I read a poster online saying t-mobile took the note 4 off their list of available devices and for the hell of it I checked Sprint and it's not there either? Note 5 is though.
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Just get it off Swappa.com
blackte4 said:
Just get it off Swappa.com
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Well I know there's other places to get it and I already have one but I'm wondering why retail sites and stores don't have it.
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Well I know there's other places to get it and I already have one but I'm wondering why retail sites and stores don't have it.
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I guess this means Sprint Note 4 owners can resell their phones for a much higher price!
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I guess this means Sprint Note 4 owners can resell their phones for a much higher price!
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Lol. They'll probably put it back up. Just found it a little weird that's all.
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When I spoke to a sprint rep in the store, he said they only do it through special order, at least for now. Wonder if they will get rid of the Note Edge too.
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They probably did cause with the specs of the new Note 5 and obvious price drop of the Note 4 who in their right mind would be willing to pay more for the Note 5??
Yes it does have a newer processor, Yes it has one more GB of Ram and a little upgrade on the front facing camera
BUT
Our Notes have Removable battery, a microSD card slot and an IR blasterand a bigger capacity battery.. BAAAMM!!
Is it really an upgrade?? Me doesn't thinks so!!
SO maybe, just maybe it's and strategy so they don't have to drop the price so much on the Note 4.
From today, I consider my Note 4 an Authentic Gem!
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So much for my plan of "buy up the Note 4 so it vastly outsells the Note 5 and Samsung gets the hint"!
Interestingly enough, Sprint still offers the Note Edge, which is pretty close if you don't mind the shape and lack of Gear VR support.
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They probably did cause with the specs of the new Note 5 and obvious price drop of the Note 4 who in their right mind would be willing to pay more for the Note 5??
Yes it does have a newer processor, Yes it has one more GB of Ram and a little upgrade on the front facing camera
BUT
Our Notes have Removable battery, a microSD card slot and an IR blasterand a bigger capacity battery.. BAAAMM!!
Is it really an upgrade?? Me doesn't thinks so!!
SO maybe, just maybe it's and strategy so they don't have to drop the price so much on the Note 4.
From today, I consider my Note 4 an Authentic Gem!
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Think of it this way. If it's essentially a downgrade, then you should be able to get a premium price for your Note 4. And if you can't get a premium price for your Note 4, then maybe it's not such a downgrade after all.
Just bought a note 4 from best buy 20 mins ago
I looked around for a while and had to drive to a different best buy because most stores dont have them in stock. They even increased the price to 299!! The manager was reduced it to 199 after i complained for a minute.
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Crossrocker said:
Just bought a note 4 from best buy 20 mins ago
I looked around for a while and had to drive to a different best buy because most stores dont have them in stock. They even increased the price to 299!! The manager was reduced it to 199 after i complained for a minute.
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Damn man wow. Makes me wonder how they're going to handle replacement devices moving forward. If I had to I wouldn't want no damn Note 5 that's for sure!
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Damn man wow. Makes me wonder how they're going to handle replacement devices moving forward. If I had to I wouldn't want no damn Note 5 that's for sure!
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Hadn't thought of that. If something happened to my Note 4 and it had to be replaced by a Note 5 I would be seriously disappointed. How many times have you felt that way about a product where you would NOT want to replace your older model with a newer one?
Found the reason why the note 4 is not there anymore, just talked to a guy at sprint. He said that Samsung was requiring Sprint to pull the Note 4 and Note edge from stores. The Note Edge is still for sale online, but it probably won't be sold much longer. In other words, the Note 5 and S6 Edge+ are the NEW Note 4 and Note Edge. Also found out all accessories were pulled from sprint too.
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I guess they know their "new" product isn't up to par and rather then give their loyal fanbase the device they asked for they are going to force the note 5 down users throat. To the average consumer they won't notice and will likely get it because its in stock but to those with a little know how and the will to put a grade school level puzzle together we will realize whats going on.
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Found the reason why the note 4 is not there anymore, just talked to a guy at sprint. He said that Samsung was requiring Sprint to pull the Note 4 and Note edge from stores. The Note Edge is still for sale online, but it probably won't be sold much longer. In other words, the Note 5 and S6 Edge+ are the NEW Note 4 and Note Edge. Also found out all accessories were pulled from sprint too.
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I knew that was the reason. Everyone else still has it. That is just wrong and sucks on sooooooo many levels. I told Sprint yesterday how unhappy I was with them and Sammy over this. The Note 5 is a downgrade for me and will not get it.
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I knew that was the reason. Everyone else still has it. That is just wrong and sucks on sooooooo many levels. I told Sprint yesterday how unhappy I was with them and Sammy over this. The Note 5 is a downgrade for me and will not get it.
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Yup. What really sucks is we have great devs now but with the device being unavailable this kinda puts a couple nails in the coffin for the future of dev support. Also what's going to happen now with future software updates from Samsuck and Sprint??
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I guess it's all part of a bigger plan.
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I guess it's all part of a bigger plan.
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Yep, I am predicting something will happen with the S7/Note 6, but that's quite a wait for now. Seeing as if they pulled any note 4/edge phones, my next phone will either be the G4 or M9. I loved it when they say in their unpacked video "Samsung is listening to the community." They aren't listening at all. It's all just another way to get money.
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I guess it's all part of a bigger plan.
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More like a lesser plan, as they are about to realize. I bought a used one. Samsung didn't get any money and neither did Sprint. No contract renewal, bad will for both companies, etc. Thinking, after decades with Sprint, of moving my service to another carrier - one that actually has coverage.
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More like a lesser plan, as they are about to realize. I bought a used one. Samsung didn't get any money and neither did Sprint. No contract renewal, bad will for both companies, etc. Thinking, after decades with Sprint, of moving my service to another carrier - one that actually has coverage.
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I'm looking for a Note 4 right now on CL or maybe eBay. I was hoping to upgrade from my Note 3 to the Note 5. Not. No microSD, no removable battery, smaller battery capacity. I actually talked to Sprint CS to ask about getting a Note 4. They said best chance was to check the stores. I guess they can order one, maybe, if the stores don't have any. I, too, am reluctant to give Sprint and Samsung money for a new Note 4. Maybe we'll take all five of us and go to a different carrier. I just hate the idea of giving up unlimited data.

Upgrading from Note 4 to.... Note 4

Never thought I'd make this upgrade.... My Verizon Note 4 is being traded in for a ... T-Mobile Note 4.
10 years and 5 lines on Verizon. I don't see a phone I can actually upgrade to from the Note 4- so it makes sense to get a rootable, rom-able Note 4. I'd be perfectly happy with that. I don't think that trade is for everybody, but I see nothing coming in 2015 that's any advancement I want to live with.
Just to let you know how it turned out moving out of my Verizon Note 4 and taking my family with me (I think that's relevant for this forum- mods, if it's not, you can delete my post), here's how it worked (unlimited talk and text):
Traded my VZW Note 4 (6 gigs data Plan) --------> TMO New Note 4 (10 gigs).
Porting over a VZW Note 3, 2 gig plan -------->10 gig plan
Trading a Note 2 in for a New Note 3, unlimited data --> 10 gigs
Changing one flip phone to Galaxy core Prime -----------10 gigs
Porting over one flip phone -----------no data
VZW: 233/month. T-Mobile: 168/Month. Fortunately, In my area Tmobile actually has better data/voice coverage than VZW.
I think I'll take the extra dollars and get a nice big battery. I have no problem living with that for a year or two.
Are you doing their 4 lines/10gb special that they have going on? I saw it on their site the other day and was considering it. Not because of root, but because Verizon is becoming my least favorite company lately.
Are all the phones new? When I built the plan and added in new phones, I was only saving like 30 bucks difference from what we pay on Verizon for the same data and phones.
I am seriously considering doing the same thing. I'm looking into coverage maps now. Does anyone know some good, up to date (and unbiased) places to find coverage map comparisons for a particular area?
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2 out of 3 are new. Note 4 new, note 3 certified, core prime (El cheapo, but ok android) new.
Hands down t-mobile wins speed tests here.
Vzw tried to save me. Told me their new plan would be awesome. I would go from 1 unlimited, 1 6gig and 1 2gig to 3 total gigs for the whole family. I said "that sounds crazy... ". They said... "no really, you can use wifi!!!"
I'm stupid.... but not THAT stupid.
And yes, it's the 10 gig/4 phones plan on tmo.
Just a quick follow up note on how my changeover (after 10 years with Verizon, with 5 household lines) turned out.
I'm sitting here with a brand new, rooted note 4 with a killer custom rom, set up exactly how I want it
-- on a much improved 5.1.1. Battery and lag issues: *Poof*
It gets better. I have an extra smartphone line in my 5 phone household... and I'm saving 50 dollars a month.
It gets EVEN better.
My employer can hear me now when I call into work. I wont miss them telling me my voice was "dropping out".
Oh, but it gets **MUCH MUCH** better.
In 10 years, I never saw over 20 Mbps from VZW, and most of the time at home, my Verizon wireless could have been beaten by an average Fischer-Price Modem(sic).
Fired up my new T-Mobile Note 4, turned off the home WIFI and ran the Ookla speed test. I almost fainted.
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Just a quick follow up note on how my changeover (after 10 years with Verizon, with 5 household lines) turned out.
I'm sitting here with a brand new, rooted note 4 with a killer custom rom, set up exactly how I want it
-- on a much improved 5.1.1. Battery and lag issues: *Poof*
It gets better. I have an extra smartphone line in my 5 phone household... and I'm saving 50 dollars a month.
It gets EVEN better.
My employer can hear me now when I call into work. I wont miss them telling me my voice was "dropping out".
Oh, but it gets **MUCH MUCH** better.
In 10 years, I never saw over 20 Mbps from VZW, and most of the time at home, my Verizon wireless could have been beaten by an average Fischer-Price Modem(sic).
Fired up my new T-Mobile Note 4, turned off the home WIFI and ran the Ookla speed test. I almost fainted.
Oh, I am one happy camper. Thanks, John Legere.:highfive:
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Where do you live?
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Where do you live?
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Northeast Ohio, a bit west of Cleveland.
Ah ok. I live in southern California and get great coverage on verizon. I still have 2 lines on unlimited data, but if big red ever changes that I'm gone!
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I live in the woods of Northern Wisconsin and I get great signals only with Verizon.
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Ah ok. I live in southern California and get great coverage on verizon. I still have 2 lines on unlimited data, but if big red ever changes that I'm gone!
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Same here. If ever they touch my data, my wife and I are out. I would not mind being able to have Root again. But for now, unlimited data is king. If only someone could find a way to turn all relevant radios for the Verizon network on one of the other networks phones. Then I would most definitely be getting another Note4. But it seems, even though there is a thread out there which proves it is possible, no one has tried. Oh well, it will happen eventually. Regardless, I still have Unlimited. To the OP, very happy you got more for less and better for that matter. I like to hear when those who can, do stick it to EVilrizon.
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Same here. If ever they touch my data, my wife and I are out. I would not mind being able to have Root again. But for now, unlimited data is king. If only someone could find a way to turn all relevant radios for the Verizon network on one of the other networks phones. Then I would most definitely be getting another Note4. But it seems, even though there is a thread out there which proves it is possible, no one has tried. Oh well, it will happen eventually. Regardless, I still have Unlimited. To the OP, very happy you got more for less and better for that matter. I like to hear when those who can, do stick it to EVilrizon.
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I was so done with Verizon screwing us over in terms of price, service, and locking down our phones that I threw away that unlimited line with all the others. Just look what it did to the character of this forum... it's a pretty dead place. 3000 posts in development here, 85000 posts in development at the T-mobile Note 4 forum. Verizon will lock down every significant phone into the future as quick as it can. I refuse to "moo".
Sic Semper Tyrannis! :victory:
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I was so done with Verizon screwing us over in terms of price, service, and locking down our phones that I threw away that unlimited line with all the others. Just look what it did to the character of this forum... it's a pretty dead place. 3000 posts in development here, 85000 posts in development at the T-mobile Note 4 forum. Verizon will lock down every significant phone into the future as quick as it can. I refuse to "moo".
Sic Semper Tyrannis! :victory:
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I hear you on the being screwed part. Out of this world pricing. But, I just can not shake the unlimited data thing. $30 for unlimited? That is a good deal by pricing standards. But voice pricing? That is where I get screwed.
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I am going to try TMO I think, especially since I'm not getting the Note 5. I have gotten the new release every year, but Sammy really screwed the pooch on this one.
Here is a question. Is there anyone here willing to try and unlock the appropriate radios on their TMobile Note4 to see if it works with a Verizon sim? I am getting fed up with this Verizon Note4. This lock down is unreasonable on so many levels.
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