importing a razr m to the uk - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i take it there is nothing stopping the m working outside of usa? has anyone imported a m and how easy was it?

I would recommend you to stick with razr i since i bought razr m on ebay and it is perfectly fine but a lot of non working bloatware and not officially supported. Like everytime you turn on the fone it said sim card was from unknown source..
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is it unlockable your "M" version ?
thanks

simpledave said:
I would recommend you to stick with razr i since i bought razr m on ebay and it is perfectly fine but a lot of non working bloatware and not officially supported. Like everytime you turn on the fone it said sim card was from unknown source..
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That should only happen on a RAZR M if you are trying to use a SIM card from a US Carrier - there should be no issues, even with a RAZR M that has a locked boot loader, using a SIM card from Europe or Asia. All the RAZR Ms come carrier unlocked out of the box.

alpha beta gaga said:
i take it there is nothing stopping the m working outside of usa? has anyone imported a m and how easy was it?
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As someone else said, the RAZR i is sold directly in the UK and (assuming its the Retail SIM unlocked model, not the carrier branded one) its bootloader unlockable. Any M you order besides the Verizon Dev Edition is going to have a locked bootloader.

I got one working perfectly in Chile, i just inserted my microSIM, set network mode to GSM/UMTS, configured my APN, and it's working.
The only caveat is that every time you turn on the phone it displays a "SIM card from unknown source" message.
Peace.

The M is going to be released in Australia at the end of this month for an outright price off $600AUD and totally unlocked. Why are you after the M over the I?

mk1151 said:
That should only happen on a RAZR M if you are trying to use a SIM card from a US Carrier - there should be no issues, even with a RAZR M that has a locked boot loader, using a SIM card from Europe or Asia. All the RAZR Ms come carrier unlocked out of the box.
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I use the RAZR M in germany on Vodafone Net , "SIM card from unknown source" for me too.

Sam_11 said:
I use the RAZR M in germany on Vodafone Net , "SIM card from unknown source" for me too.
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why did you go for the m over the i? the i is available in germany too? i've decided not to import the m now. too much hassle if things go wrong or i get a dud. i've had 2 razr i now. the first had audio output issues and a yellow tinge screen. the second, no audio issues and a much cleaner, crisper non yellow tunge screen! :victory:

Razr
alpha beta gaga said:
why did you go for the m over the i? the i is available in germany too? i've decided not to import the m now. too much hassle if things go wrong or i get a dud. i've had 2 razr i now. the first had audio output issues and a yellow tinge screen. the second, no audio issues and a much cleaner, crisper non yellow tunge screen! :victory:
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I think the RAZR M has much better hardware then the RAZR I ( LTE, Bluetooth 4, Glonass, S-GPS...) for the same price.
Benchmark results + 10-30 %
Thats all.

do you mind me asking which retailer you imported from?

my son was for school exchange in the USA and bought it on amazon wireless.
No shipping ..

ooooo nice. much easier!

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[Q] Droid X works on Tata Indicom? Reliance? which Indian Network

Hello Guys!
I want to purchase Droid X, because i find it very beautiful and cool than almost other android phones...
And the phone will be actually be used in India, so heard that it is boot loader locked and not unlocked yet
I googled yesterday whole night, but still my doubts are
1. Whats the loss of locked bootloader of Droid X (losses for just this phone)
2. So if i buy Verizon Droid X, is it possible it unlock for TATA DOCOMO (GSM) India
3. Or is it possible to use on CDMA Networks like Reliance or TATA Indicom (CDMA) India
4. Any advices?
smoinuddin1110 said:
hello guys!
I want to purchase droid x, because i find it very beautiful and cool than almost other android phones...
And the phone will be actually be used in india, so heard that it is boot loader locked and not unlocked yet
i googled yesterday whole night, but still my doubts are
1. Whats the loss of locked bootloader of droid x (losses for just this phone)
2. So if i buy verizon droid x, is it possible it unlock for tata docomo (gsm) india
3. Or is it possible to use on cdma networks like reliance or tata indicom (cdma) india
4. Any advices?
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no reply???
Anyone??
I had my DX in Dehli and Pune less than a month ago. It had a good signal everywhere and I used it a lot for texting. I was actually surprised at how will it worked. The radio is compatible at least. There are methods to unlock from VZ kicking around as well but you'll have to dig them out. A DX will only work on tata indicom since it is a CDMA phone.
Sorry, but I didn't look to see what network I was roaming on since I purchased a pre-paid Aircel SIM for local calling purposes and used it in one of my older WM phones.
smoinuddin1110 said:
Hello Guys!
I want to purchase Droid X, because i find it very beautiful and cool than almost other android phones...
And the phone will be actually be used in India, so heard that it is boot loader locked and not unlocked yet
I googled yesterday whole night, but still my doubts are
1. Whats the loss of locked bootloader of Droid X (losses for just this phone)
2. So if i buy Verizon Droid X, is it possible it unlock for TATA DOCOMO (GSM) India
3. Or is it possible to use on CDMA Networks like Reliance or TATA Indicom (CDMA) India
4. Any advices?
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dude check on ebay reliance version is available

[Q] Is the RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?

Most of Verizon's world phones are SIM locked, and you either have to get it unlocked, or use Verizon's SIM card. I figured it would be the same for this phone. However, I read somewhere that the pre-release version is unlocked out of the box. I'm guessing by pre-release, they mean the one that was given to the press at the launch event.
Anybody know if all the Ms are unlocked from the factory? Specifically, what I'm after is to find out if they can be used on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US without any modifications. The earlier Motorola world phones needed modifications to do so, but it's worth a shot to see if this maybe is different. Just being generally unlocked saves a step, too, but if someone can provide the information on whether it is unlocked for US bands, that would be great.
I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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olm3ca said:
I can confirm it does not allow calls using a US T-Mobile SIM. It does show the voicemail indicator and my t-mo # correctly in settings, but I think its just reading that from the SIM card itself.
Doesn't verizon unlock after 90 days good standing? I know for iPhones they do. Might be something I'll try in a few months.
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Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.
freak4dell said:
Thanks for the info! I'm not sure if that is the typical behavior or not. I forgot what my Droid Pro did before I unlocked it.
Verizon usually does unlock it if you've been a customer for more than 90 days. They still won't let you use the US networks, though...just international ones. Hopefully P3Droid and his team will work their magic on this one. I know he already ordered a Dev Edition of the M.
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It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!
celticjon said:
It sounds like it is SIM unlocked since it's reading from the T-Mobile SIM at all. I believe all the Razr & Razr Maxx officially come as SIM unlocked from the factory, so I would guess the Razr M would too. It still has the network block for US GSM networks, but that's different than the SIM card.
I'm interested in getting the Razr M to replace my Droid Pro, so if anyone could confirm, that would be great!
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That could be, and maybe it's just Verizon's policy these days, considering the iPhone 5 ships unlocked (and the iP5 has no US band lock, either). Hopefully someone can try it with an international SIM when they travel and let us know.
Now that a few people have gotten the Dev version in their hands, any differences on that one as far as the SIM unlock goes? Since Verizon doesn't sell that directly, maybe Motorola left the US bands unlocked on that one.
Is The RAZR M SIM Unlocked From The Factory?
Is there anything new on this?
Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.
Yeah, it's unlocked, and you can use it on T-Mobile and AT&T with the Australian radio, but nobody has been able to consistently get 3G on either carrier.
Does anybody test the phone outside of the U.S?
Any word?
Germanese said:
Sim is Unlocked, it will read any sim but US-Sim seem to be Radio Locked.
Which u can bypass by an Aussie Radio. And then u can use it on T-Mobile or AT&T
I will be able to verify in 1-2 weeks if it will work on an International Sim with out any modification.
Sending my GirlFriend her Razr M to Germany so she can test it on O2.
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Any word from Germany?
Works fine in Germany 3G is active but we cant get passed the .5mb/s mark in speed but she is also in a rural area at the moment for Christmas.
Where O2 doesn't have alot of towers.
Yes sim is factory unlocked. 4G works in Mexico
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I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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areayetee said:
I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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+1
Works great on Rogers here in Canada minus the lte of course.
does everything work?
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?
liongood9 said:
Does call, text, picture messaging, and web all work internationally?
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Yes, EVERYTHING works.
Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.
sasikanth8 said:
Did anyone use it on 900 and 1800 radio?
TIA.
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I can confirm that everything works internationally, tried in Italy and Singapore. Also, the network in italy was on the 900 frequency band, so that works for sure, haven't tested 1800 but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Does it mean that all models of razr m are factory unlocked? I know there are 3 versions of razr m XT905, XT907 and XT902. Just wonder if I can unlock my XT902.

[Q] SIM / Network Unlock for Razr M ( Use in Non-US country )

Hi,
Apologies for my ignorance ...but would like to a know something basic about Unlock feature & then also needed to ask a specific question:
Basic Doubts:
1) Developer Edition Razr M :
If I buy this Developer Edition from US , can I use only in US only (or is it specifically Verizon) or can I use it any other country as well.
(In other words is it SIM / Network blocked).
2) What is the difference between Unlocked version & rooted device.
Is it that If I unlock the phone , does it mean rooted.
In some other words the related question is --> If I buy the Razr M Dev Edition , then do I need some sort of a password to unlock it or can I use it straight away like a Retail Razr M Phone.(even without unlocking).
3) What is the difference between Razr M Retail without plan & Razr M Developer Edition.
The reason I am asking this Q is because if we go to the Motorola US site for purchasing the Razr M we have 2 options :
one Retail version & one Dev Edition version.
However if in the retail version link we further select buy we are provided with options like (i) With plan - 99 $ & (ii) Without plan - 549 $
Also alternatively if we go to the Dev Edition buying link , we have one option for 549$.
Now the question is --> Are the options of Retail version without plan - 549 $ (as mentioned in (ii) above) & the option of Dev Edition also for 549 $ . really the same .
If not what would be the difference.
Specific question:
4) If I gift this phone to another friend of mine in another country i.e not US (& which has 3G Network & not 4G LTE)
Can he use the Razr M in that other country.
Sorry for this lengthy content ..But would request if you can please guide me with these queries..
Thanks in advance for the same....
Regards,
AT
1. I don't know if it is SIM unlocked already, or if you would need to call Verizon or Motorola. I believe it is already SIM unlocked, but like I said, I'm not sure. Verizon isn't very friendly about it, though, so if you do have to call them to get the code, they might not give it to you if you haven't been a customer for 90 days. With my Droid Pro, I just purchased the unlock code online, since I'm not a Verizon customer. The M does have GSM radios, though, so it can be used overseas, as long as it is SIM unlocked.
2. A SIM unlock means that the GSM radios in your phone are unlocked for use on any network with any SIM card. What people are usually referring to when they say they are unlocking the Dev Edition phone is a bootloader unlock. This is completely different from a SIM unlock. Unlocking the bootloader gives access to partitions on the phone that are normally restricted. This allows root access, further customization, etc. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't automatically give you root access, but it's simply a matter of flashing the proper files to get root. This is a lot easier with an unlocked bootloader, because you don't have to go hunting for exploits. However, this doesn't have anything to do with the SIM unlock, and you don't need the bootloader to be unlocked to have a SIM unlock. As for the password, see my answer to #1.
3. The difference between the retail Droid RAZR M and the Developer Edition Droid RAZR M is that the bootloader can be unlocked on the Developer Edition. You will be able to SIM unlock both of them. If you buy it for $99, you are signing a contract with Verizon. Breaking that contract costs $350, and you have to wait 1 month to break it without having to return the phone. You will basically be at the $549 price if you go that route. It's easier to just buy it for the full price without signing the contract. Aside from the ability to unlock the bootloader, the $549 retail option and the $549 Developer Edition option are the exact same (the Dev one says Developer Edition the back of the phone, too).
4. As long as it is SIM unlocked, yes, he will be able to use it (provided whatever country he is in uses the frequency bands that are supported by the phone...there are a handful of countries that use the 1700MHz frequency, which the M does not support).
To be absolutely honest, the most headache free way to get this phone to use overseas is probably to just buy the RAZR i. It's the same phone, but with an Intel processor. Also, the RAZR M will be sold in Australia in November, and that is the exact same phone as the Droid RAZR M, minus the CDMA radios.
freak4dell said:
1. I don't know if it is SIM unlocked already, or if you would need to call Verizon or Motorola. I believe it is already SIM unlocked, but like I said, I'm not sure. Verizon isn't very friendly about it, though, so if you do have to call them to get the code, they might not give it to you if you haven't been a customer for 90 days. With my Droid Pro, I just purchased the unlock code online, since I'm not a Verizon customer. The M does have GSM radios, though, so it can be used overseas, as long as it is SIM unlocked.
2. A SIM unlock means that the GSM radios in your phone are unlocked for use on any network with any SIM card. What people are usually referring to when they say they are unlocking the Dev Edition phone is a bootloader unlock. This is completely different from a SIM unlock. Unlocking the bootloader gives access to partitions on the phone that are normally restricted. This allows root access, further customization, etc. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't automatically give you root access, but it's simply a matter of flashing the proper files to get root. This is a lot easier with an unlocked bootloader, because you don't have to go hunting for exploits. However, this doesn't have anything to do with the SIM unlock, and you don't need the bootloader to be unlocked to have a SIM unlock. As for the password, see my answer to #1.
3. The difference between the retail Droid RAZR M and the Developer Edition Droid RAZR M is that the bootloader can be unlocked on the Developer Edition. You will be able to SIM unlock both of them. If you buy it for $99, you are signing a contract with Verizon. Breaking that contract costs $350, and you have to wait 1 month to break it without having to return the phone. You will basically be at the $549 price if you go that route. It's easier to just buy it for the full price without signing the contract. Aside from the ability to unlock the bootloader, the $549 retail option and the $549 Developer Edition option are the exact same (the Dev one says Developer Edition the back of the phone, too).
4. As long as it is SIM unlocked, yes, he will be able to use it (provided whatever country he is in uses the frequency bands that are supported by the phone...there are a handful of countries that use the 1700MHz frequency, which the M does not support).
To be absolutely honest, the most headache free way to get this phone to use overseas is probably to just buy the RAZR i. It's the same phone, but with an Intel processor. Also, the RAZR M will be sold in Australia in November, and that is the exact same phone as the Droid RAZR M, minus the CDMA radios.
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Thanks for your detailed reply...
I actually wanted the Razr M ..due to its Snapdragon S4 processor...over the Intel processor Razr i...
What I can more conclude from your reply ...which seems sense to me is that:
to buy the Razr M (without plan) or the Dev Edition at the 549$ price & gift it to my friend abroad , so that he can use it since it should have the SIM unlocked ...
Just wanted to confirm if my understanding is right for the above...would request if it is possible for you to comment on this...
(BTW his country supports the Network frequency for the phone...GSM 900/1800 )
So I guess he should have no issues in operating the phone...
Thanks again for your assistance...
Regards,
AT.
Like I said, I cannot confirm if it comes SIM unlocked out of the box or not. I believe it is, but I do not own one, and I have not tested it myself, so I cannot confirm.
In this thread, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31879273) we found that the phone did read SIM cards from other networks. However, since the test was done using a T-Mobile US SIM card, calls couldn't be made, so we don't know for sure if it would work right away with an overseas SIM card. I hope someone that has traveled overseas with this phone will chime in, but so far, nobody has spoken up.
freak4dell said:
Like I said, I cannot confirm if it comes SIM unlocked out of the box or not. I believe it is, but I do not own one, and I have not tested it myself, so I cannot confirm.
In this thread, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31879273) we found that the phone did read SIM cards from other networks. However, since the test was done using a T-Mobile US SIM card, calls couldn't be made, so we don't know for sure if it would work right away with an overseas SIM card. I hope someone that has traveled overseas with this phone will chime in, but so far, nobody has spoken up.
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Hi.
Thanks ..once again for the quick response...also thanks for the link ...
So I guess I shall wait for any response / comment for the overseas usage (i.e. whether the overseas SIM is unblocked from factory for the Razr M)..
But anyways thanks for all your responses...really appreciate..
Regards,
AT.
Yeah I'm using Razr M in sweden sent from USA, and it works well however when everytime i restart the phone it says " your sim card is from an unknown source" . But it works eventually. I think Rarz i is a better solution for oversea using since there can be no Boat-apps from verizon ( super stupid and worthless oversea) .. or at least those apps on razr i are more international usable..
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can i buy a verizon phone for 99$ and then unlock it some how???
freak4dell said:
1. I don't know if it is SIM unlocked already, or if you would need to call Verizon or Motorola. I believe it is already SIM unlocked, but like I said, I'm not sure. Verizon isn't very friendly about it, though, so if you do have to call them to get the code, they might not give it to you if you haven't been a customer for 90 days. With my Droid Pro, I just purchased the unlock code online, since I'm not a Verizon customer. The M does have GSM radios, though, so it can be used overseas, as long as it is SIM unlocked.
2. A SIM unlock means that the GSM radios in your phone are unlocked for use on any network with any SIM card. What people are usually referring to when they say they are unlocking the Dev Edition phone is a bootloader unlock. This is completely different from a SIM unlock. Unlocking the bootloader gives access to partitions on the phone that are normally restricted. This allows root access, further customization, etc. Unlocking the bootloader doesn't automatically give you root access, but it's simply a matter of flashing the proper files to get root. This is a lot easier with an unlocked bootloader, because you don't have to go hunting for exploits. However, this doesn't have anything to do with the SIM unlock, and you don't need the bootloader to be unlocked to have a SIM unlock. As for the password, see my answer to #1.
3. The difference between the retail Droid RAZR M and the Developer Edition Droid RAZR M is that the bootloader can be unlocked on the Developer Edition. You will be able to SIM unlock both of them. If you buy it for $99, you are signing a contract with Verizon. Breaking that contract costs $350, and you have to wait 1 month to break it without having to return the phone. You will basically be at the $549 price if you go that route. It's easier to just buy it for the full price without signing the contract. Aside from the ability to unlock the bootloader, the $549 retail option and the $549 Developer Edition option are the exact same (the Dev one says Developer Edition the back of the phone, too).
4. As long as it is SIM unlocked, yes, he will be able to use it (provided whatever country he is in uses the frequency bands that are supported by the phone...there are a handful of countries that use the 1700MHz frequency, which the M does not support).
To be absolutely honest, the most headache free way to get this phone to use overseas is probably to just buy the RAZR i. It's the same phone, but with an Intel processor. Also, the RAZR M will be sold in Australia in November, and that is the exact same phone as the Droid RAZR M, minus the CDMA radios.
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as u said the cost of the razr m is 549$ without the contract and there is certainly a large difference in 99$ and 549$.
i would like to know if i purchase a phone with contract and then since the carrier network does not work in my country, i can get a unlockmotorola websites etc. for the unlock codes???
let me know if itz actually possible this way because sparing another 40$ for the unlock codes is way better than buying a 549$ phone.
sunilnm09 said:
as u said the cost of the razr m is 549$ without the contract and there is certainly a large difference in 99$ and 549$.
i would like to know if i purchase a phone with contract and then since the carrier network does not work in my country, i can get a unlockmotorola websites etc. for the unlock codes???
let me know if itz actually possible this way because sparing another 40$ for the unlock codes is way better than buying a 549$ phone.
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You won't need unlock codes.
But, I already explained how buying it for $99 and then breaking the contract isn't cost effective. Also, how are you going to buy a contract phone from a country you don't live in in the first place?
I have searched many of the SIM unlocking service companies offered, but they do not sell any sim unlock codes for razr m (let it be XT905, XT907 or XT902).
Can anybody help??
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I have searched many of the SIM unlocking service companies offered, but they do not sell any sim unlock codes for razr m (let it be XT905, XT907 or XT902).
Can anybody help??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984265&page=19
Hi
Thanks
Do you get 3G and 4g

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delete / close thread, :laugh:
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Yeah i use it fine in sweden.
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I can confim that the razr m is sim unlocked for international use out of the box no modification required. My sister uses one on koodo mobile (canadian service provider) with her koodo sim. When she comes back to the states she pops in the american sim it came with and uses on my verizon plan.
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xperiap said:
I wonder if I let the Razr M ship to Europe [where I live] and I use a Dutch sim, will it work? And I see there is 'verizon' printed on it. Does that mean its sim-locked?
Or should I better buy Razr i?? Europese version
I still dont know why Motorola integrated intel chip on EU version, alot apps are in-compatible And 0 roms
Also, do you think I should buy it? I am looking for the smallest <4.3'' phone...
Thnx guys!
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Hi, the Verizon Droid Razr M works fine here in Italy (after setting the APN). No sim lock, no need to root or workon it. By the way... I think it's one of the best sub 4.3" terminal at the moment: good hardware, long battery life, light and pocketable!
Hi,
my RAZR M works fine on O2 Germany, APN Settings required.
Sam_11 said:
Hi,
my RAZR M works fine on O2 Germany, APN Settings required.
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Guys, where do you bought it??
And if I buy from site as Ebay, why do these people always response late and is there a chance I get scammed?
Hey, u live in Germany, thats NEXT TO Holland, wanna sell it to me?
I just send one to (Germany Munich) works great on O2 and Tmobile DE
Its the time difference you guys are 7 hours ahead of us.
People tend to answer around 5-9pm US time which is after midnight ur time.
I been having great success getting them on ebay and Local craigslist.
Local so u can see the phone.
Ebay you have a buyer protection plan.
Though keep in mind it may take almost 1 month to arrive depending on shipping method and retarded customs.
Razr i or Razr M are ur choices.
Razr M 200-300 USD will cost you 175-250 EUro
Razr i is 300-500 Euro
So do your math what u want to do. It is a locked bootloader though on the M VZ the i Will be unlocked
Now the Galaxy S2 (i777) version is the one I bought for my GF sister.
Its a great phone but slower than the M. The Razr M also feels alot more premium compared to the cheap plastic feel.
I had both to play with, but the S2 has alot more custom rom stuff to play with.
You are able to damage the LCD of the S2 alot easier.
S2 has the ability to access the Battery the M does not.
The S2 chrome ring is prone to chip. The rear door feels flimsy
Oh and the S2 takes normal Mini Sim where the M takes Micro Sim.
Germanese said:
I been having great success getting them on ebay and Local craigslist.
Oh and the S2 takes normal Mini Sim where the M takes Micro Sim.
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Whats a local craigslist? [sorry my english is bad]
And is a micro sim more smaller than a mini sim [which iphone 4 uses]??
So, I have to cut my sim?
But is it really necessary to put that much efford just to buy a phone?
My last option would be the Galaxy s2 then
xperiap said:
Whats a local craigslist? [sorry my english is bad]
And is a micro sim more smaller than a mini sim [which iphone 4 uses]??
So, I have to cut my sim?
But is it really necessary to put that much efford just to buy a phone?
My last option would be the Galaxy s2 then
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In the US Australia and Some European Country.
There is something like a Local Posting called Craigslist, you can buy and sell stuff, like a garage sale online.
(Free for most parts) And since it's local you have to meet them up and buy it form them like at a garage sale.
Just make sure you have some one else with you and meet up at a save secure location and its fine.
Mini-Sim is what normal phones tend to use, which the Galaxy S2 uses.
Micro-Sim is the size like the iPhone 4 and 4S
Nano-Sim is what the iPhone 5 uses
-You have to either cut a mini sim to Micro but it wont work unless u good/precise at cutting since
it has to be perfect else the Click mechanism won't work. Or just get a 5-7 dollar Sim card clipper (Like a hole puncher) make sure its Mini to Micro (not Mini to Nano
No its not much efford, I am with T-Mobile they just give me a Micro sim for free since i am already a customer.
T-Mobile also has Nano Sims if i wanted to go with an iPhone 5 (No cutting just go store and ask)
O2 also has Mini Micro and Nano Sim but they charge 5 Dollars to swap you over unless something happened to ur Sim (Damaged)
Hardware wise i did not like the S2 especially the wierd US veriations.
I do like the i777 which is an US variation by AT&T but it is the closest to International S2 with out the Physical button.
Software wise that phone has tons of support hardware wise its basic.
Hope that helps.
These are the screens shots of XT907 in Germany on O2 using OEM Verizon Rom (No Modified Aussie Radio)
She gets Edge(2G) and HSPA(3.5G) sometimes 3G(3G)Roaming
Though her current area has a lot of interference with electronics.
So in Germany/Europe this phone can run pretty much at is Max on stock ROM, except no 4G and LTE since Europe use 3.5G i believe.
See attached images
Germanese said:
These are the screens shots of XT907 in Germany on O2 using OEM Verizon Rom (No Modified Aussie Radio)
She gets Edge(2G) and HSPA(3.5G) sometimes 3G(3G)Roaming
Though her current area has a lot of interference with electronics.
So in Germany/Europe this phone can run pretty much at is Max on stock ROM, except no 4G and LTE since Europe use 3.5G i believe.
See attached images
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OMFG Iw ant it sooo bad! Dont you wanna get rid of it? Sell it to me, we live almost next each other!
Is there any safe way to get this phone??
xperiap said:
OMFG Iw ant it sooo bad! Dont you wanna get rid of it? Sell it to me, we live almost next each other!
Is there any safe way to get this phone??
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Anything can be done, its all-ways about the money. If you deal with Euro then getting one over to you should be easy.
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
These phones aren't quite cheap, sure... not as expensive as the stinken GoldBar of an iPhone but not as cheap so u can get one ever week.
I am about send an i777 S2 to my gf next week which is for her sister.
Germanese said:
Anything can be done, its all-ways about the money. If you deal with Euro then getting one over to you should be easy.
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
These phones aren't quite cheap, sure... not as expensive as the stinken GoldBar of an iPhone but not as cheap so u can get one ever week.
I am about send an i777 S2 to my gf next week which is for her sister.
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Read PM plz
Germanese said:
But if you use Lira or similar currency it may be expensive due to up-conversion.
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Lol man... we don't have liras in Italy anymore since 2001...
I know Italy is in pretty bad shape, but not that bad to have to go back to lira yet
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In Russia work well too, yeah
Razr M not working in India (yet)
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?
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NG113 said:
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?
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Should have gotten a Razr M... Not a droid Razr M. Or an electrify.
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NG113 said:
Hi, so I got my Razr M delivered today here in India. But when I put in my local Vodafone GSM, it showed me a message saying "Your SIM card is from an unknown source." I pressed OK, but it shows the emergency calls only symbol. I tried changing the network mode from CDMA to GSM/UMTS. Didnt work. Then I manually searched for available networks, and tried connecting to them. But everytime I got the same message: "Your SIM card doesn't allow connection to this network".
Any ideas on what could be the problem?
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Did you find the solution?
Make sure you fresh ICS or JB firmware loaded.
And that it is not a modded Firmware.
Start with that. If that will not work you have 2 choices.
VZ Firmware with Aus Radio
VZ Firmware with 01 mod
Unless India is on the black list of the phone also which it should not be, u shouldn't have a problem.
My old boss just went back to Dubai with his and had no issues using his phone with local Sims.
Yeah it happens . I will soon post a list of things i have tried , this has something to do with actiavtion of verizon phones in the US and then using it abroad
VZ Firmware with Aus Radio --tried
VZ Firmware with 01 mod --tried

Android 4.4.4 will hit all Moto G devices

Devices won't be getting 4.4.3 but will be going to 4.4.4 instead. No dates as far as when it will be available. We'll provide it as soon as it is available.
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Original post from the motorola forum.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/817e1b24cb
petraru1 said:
Original post from the motorola forum.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/817e1b24cb
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Good news..the sooner the better!
What does 4.4.4 has over 4.4.2 that makes everyone so excited about?
I have 4.4.2 and I'm happy.
From my experience in the last few days; 4.4.3 makes the Moto G perform better than ever. Data connectivity is faster and more reliable, and overall the OS feels more responsive and stable. Miracast and DNLA also now work as they should. For clarity, 4.4.4 is essentially 4.4.3 + additional fixes (mostly security).
does that include the Verizon XT1028
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just wondering will the battery drain be fixed in 4.4.4?
Nikorasu said:
What does 4.4.4 has over 4.4.2 that makes everyone so excited about?
I have 4.4.2 and I'm happy.
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Well there are a large chunk of users with the Indian Dual Sim whose default 4.4.2 firmware is a buggy mess. They are I'm guessing very excited about getting confirmation of 4.4.4 as it gives Moto an opportunity to fix the issues on that variant.
For the rest of us - something like 7000 code tweaks/improvements between 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 and a pretty fundamental security fix in 4.4.4 (plus no doubt a few other code tweaks).
neu - smurph said:
Well there are a large chunk of users with the Indian Dual Sim whose default 4.4.2 firmware is a buggy mess. They are I'm guessing very excited about getting confirmation of 4.4.4 as it gives Moto an opportunity to fix the issues on that variant.
For the rest of us - something like 7000 code tweaks/improvements between 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 and a pretty fundamental security fix in 4.4.4 (plus no doubt a few other code tweaks).
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I see, thanks for the reply. A quick search told me Indian Moto G users experience drop calls/signals.
My MotoG dual sim is a XT1033 that I've imported from Hongkong so I doubt it's that different from yours.
Hope it comes soon so everyone can enjoy the MotoG.
Like predicted some days ago..
Try playing a FLAC file in 4.4.2. Lots of drop-outs.
denzel09 said:
Like predicted some days ago..
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Looks like it may be happening, report on one forum that the UK version phone got a 4.4.4 upgrade notification.
theghost101 said:
Looks like it may be happening, report on one forum that the UK version phone got a 4.4.4 upgrade notification.
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Really good. I am waiting eu version.
A few XT1032 Moto G stock (nonGPE) 4.4.4 version has been spoted on the net:
http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/viewheader/Motorola/XT1032/53a03664ca8dda120078f90d
http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/viewheader/Motorola/XT1032/53b0d4afca8dda12007f1550
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Looks like it may be happening, report on one forum that the UK version phone got a 4.4.4 upgrade notification.
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My phone is bought from UK Tesco but no update, maybe the new update will hit EU this week.
I bought the device from o2 but i unlocked the boot loader and flashed Retail.en.GB, how will I get the update?
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I bought the device from o2 but i unlocked the boot loader and flashed Retail.en.GB, how will I get the update?
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You will get Retail.en.GB firmware, so you will recive it quick, i have a question, if you are from UK, from a quick search on google, Tesco is a big retailer in UK, i am using the phone in Romania with a Vodafone plan, everithing works fine, but i wonder why the system version is TescoSL.en.GB, and no Retail.en.GB since the phone isnt locked to a carrier.
petraru1 said:
You will get Retail.en.GB firmware, so you will recive it quick, i have a question, if you are from UK, from a quick search on google, Tesco is a big retailer in UK, i am using the phone in Romania with a Vodafone plan, everithing works fine, but i wonder why the system version is TescoSL.en.GB, and no Retail.en.GB since the phone isnt locked to a carrier.
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The software was released to Tesco and they then checked over it as well confirming it doesnt have bugs and etc and if they wanted to they add there own applications and etc. They then install this on the Moto G they have and the software is called Tesco.Sl.en.GB, but you can still unlock the carrier and use any sim card you want, unlocking the sim card doesnt have anything to do with the software and you should get the Tesco update shortly after Retail gets it. In truth there is no difference with the Moto G as its all the same but with e.g the Samsung galaxy different carriers install different bloat ware and there own apps such as At&T music.
denzel09 said:
Like predicted some days ago..
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It isn't much of a prediction. Motorola already announced they were stopping testing of 4.4.3 to areas where it hadn't rolled out and going to send 4.4.4 to the carriers for testing. So nothing is new in this thread except someone from Motorola support basically said the same thing.
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The software was released to Tesco and they then checked over it as well confirming it doesnt have bugs and etc and if they wanted to they add there own applications and etc. They then install this on the Moto G they have and the software is called Tesco.Sl.en.GB, but you can still unlock the carrier and use any sim card you want, unlocking the sim card doesnt have anything to do with the software and you should get the Tesco update shortly after Retail gets it. In truth there is no difference with the Moto G as its all the same but with e.g the Samsung galaxy different carriers install different bloat ware and there own apps such as At&T music.
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I don't have any bloat on my moto g, i was confused, because i am in Romania, and the phone was bought from a local retail shop in Romania who imported the phone from Tesco ), the phone isn't lock to any carrier because i can use any sim card, that is why i didn't get why the system is tesco.sl, because from what i see tesco is a big retail shop in uk, but i didn't see tesco carrier. That made me confused
bozzykid said:
It isn't much of a prediction. Motorola already announced they were stopping testing of 4.4.3 to areas where it hadn't rolled out and going to send 4.4.4 to the carriers for testing. So nothing is new in this thread except someone from Motorola support basically said the same thing.
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well, motorola officialy announced the droid line stopping the test for 4.4.2 and going directly to 4.4.4, nothing about moto g
petraru1 said:
I don't have any bloat on my moto g, i was confused, because i am in Romania, and the phone was bought from a local retail shop in Romania who imported the phone from Tesco ), the phone isn't lock to any carrier because i can use any sim card, that is why i didn't get why the system is tesco.sl, because from what i see tesco is a big retail shop in uk, but i didn't see tesco carrier. That made me confused
well, motorola officialy announced the droid line stopping the test for 4.4.2 and going directly to 4.4.4, nothing about moto g
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The tesco firmware doesnt make any difference, dont worry bro

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