I am thinking of getting the M, but it appears the device uses MTP when you connect it a PC. I am coming from ThunderBolt, and certainly enjoyed simply mounting the SD card in Windows, then copying whatever I wanted in and out. I even recovered some files that I accidentally deleted. I would also copy files to the phone for books (in random formats) , apps (apk), videos, photos etc.
Judging by the name I would guess you can copy MP3s to phone under MTP. Can you copy other types of files? Is there a way to just mount the internal storage in Windows? Thanks!
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You should be able to copy everything, if you double click on the device in Explorer (on Windows, anyway). It should give you a display of all the folders on the device, I think.
But yes, MTP sucks. For whatever reason, it simply doesn't work with my current phone. Even on a fresh clean install of Windows 7, the driver will not install, and this is seen across multiple computers, stock ROMs and custom ones. I haven't been able to transfer data to or from my phone using the USB cable in ages. I can do it over WiFi, thankfully, and I can also just pop out the microSD card if needed, but MTP still frustrates me to no end.
It works with my tablet just fine, though, so it's the Motorola driver that's messed up.
Engadget review also reported a failure to install drivers for MTP on one of their test machines, despite best efforts to trouble shoot.
Is there even a benefit to MTP? To me it sounds like pure pain.
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cowisland said:
I am thinking of getting the M, but it appears the device uses MTP when you connect it a PC. I am coming from ThunderBolt, and certainly enjoyed simply mounting the SD card in Windows, then copying whatever I wanted in and out. I even recovered some files that I accidentally deleted. I would also copy files to the phone for books (in random formats) , apps (apk), videos, photos etc.
Judging by the name I would guess you can copy MP3s to phone under MTP. Can you copy other types of files? Is there a way to just mount the internal storage in Windows? Thanks!
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Why would you be annoyed at all, you can just mount the device as Mass Storage (just like the Thunderbrick) and move files that way. MTP is not an issue.
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Why would you be annoyed at all, you can just mount the device as Mass Storage (just like the Thunderbrick) and move files that way. MTP is not an issue.
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That's the answer I was hoping for, thank you! One last question : how do you mount the device as mass storage, using the standard Android dialog that shows up in the notification bar?
Please be patient with me, I don't have the phone yet.
Finally, my Thunder hasn't bricked yet, but it's getting close...
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cowisland said:
That's the answer I was hoping for, thank you! One last question : how do you mount the device as mass storage, using the standard Android dialog that shows up in the notification bar?
Please be patient with me, I don't have the phone yet.
Finally, my Thunder hasn't bricked yet, but it's getting close...
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It simply gives you the option when you plug it in - you can choose to mount it as usb storage, or mtp.
jntdroid said:
It simply gives you the option when you plug it in - you can choose to mount it as usb storage, or mtp.
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Not anymore! Since the JB update, the USB mass storage option is gone! This pisses me off since I need that to connect to my vehicle's audio system. WTF would they remove that feature?!
Yeah. It makes me angry... I hate mtp. Gawd Google y u no usb mass storage?!? ¡¿¡
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I've never had this problem -- until I upgraded to KK. Now my work PC will not allow me to install the MTP driver. Haven't tried yet on my home pc, but I am not optimistic. Come on! Some genius hacker dude out there has to have figured this one out by now!
Wi-Fi file explorer is my method of choice.
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I do not get it. My Maxx mounts what appears to be MTP but when in click on the phone icon in Win7 (actually Parallels desktop on a Mac) the internal SD is mounted! Just like before. That is with 444. So is 442 way different on the older msm8960s?
Now on a Mac it is doodoo.
I can access both SD cards from PC without any problem in MTP mode. I installed the drivers while I was on JB I think
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Wi-Fi file explorer is my method of choice.
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I used to use that on my old phone but forgot about it. I'll have to give it another go. Thanks for the reminder.
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Just thought i'd share this info if you don't know already. For those of you looking to transfer files from your Mac, download Android File Transfer and install that. Plug your phone in and enable camera mode (don't know why its camera mode) and you should be able to transfer files through Android File Transfer, external and internal SD Card. :laugh:
Android File Transfer: http://www.android.com/filetransfer/
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There is a Kies version for MAC as well that will allow for music, files, photos, etc. to be loaded
Why would you need this? When you connect via usb you have 2 options in the drop down, MTP, basically installs the software to transfer files on windows, supposed to work on macs, but you can always switch it to the second option 'camera' which basically works on this option. I leave this the default, so it works with external hard drives, linux, and windows.
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Why would you need this? When you connect via usb you have 2 options in the drop down, MTP, basically installs the software to transfer files on windows, supposed to work on macs, but you can always switch it to the second option 'camera' which basically works on this option. I leave this the default, so it works with external hard drives, linux, and windows.
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Android File Transfer is required for Macs if not using kies.
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There is a Kies version for MAC as well that will allow for music, files, photos, etc. to be loaded
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Sure you can transfer music and whatever via kies but you can't transfer zip files which is one of my main concerns. Just think if Android File Transfer as USB Storage Mode.
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Why would you need this? When you connect via usb you have 2 options in the drop down, MTP, basically installs the software to transfer files on windows, supposed to work on macs, but you can always switch it to the second option 'camera' which basically works on this option. I leave this the default, so it works with external hard drives, linux, and windows.
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Yes it works on windows without installing anything but it doesn't work on Mac without Android File Transfer installed, hence the title.
I have been trying to search the forum but having no luck. I switched from cm7 to cm10 recently and I am looking for a way app/utility whatever to have my sd card mount on my pc when I plug in usb so I can transfer files to my storage partition. I was using USB Mass Storage Watcher app(I think it was called) before, but it doesn't like cm10 very much. If there is no way to see usb connection from android to pc, what would be the next best option?
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I have been trying to search the forum but having no luck. I switched from cm7 to cm10 recently and I am looking for a way app/utility whatever to have my sd card mount on my pc when I plug in usb so I can transfer files to my storage partition. I was using USB Mass Storage Watcher app(I think it was called) before, but it doesn't like cm10 very much. If there is no way to see usb connection from android to pc, what would be the next best option?
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That setting is built into CM10. Go to storage, then hit menu and USB configuration pops up. Select that. Select mass storage and back out. Now when you connect to PC both emmc and sdcard should show up as disk drives. The only app that I might use with that is my modified NookColorUMS app that I modified to work on CM9. It also works on CM10. Get it on my tips thread linked in my signature. And read about it in the second post in that thread. It allows you to mount any partition you want with UMS.
You might also look into using one of the transfer-over-wifi apps to get your data files onto Nook, I use WifiFileExplorer to this effect and never hassle with USB cords/connexions. Quick and sees everything.
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You might also look into using one of the transfer-over-wifi apps to get your data files onto Nook, I use WifiFileExplorer to this effect and never hassle with USB cords/connexions. Quick and sees everything.
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Love Wifi File Explorer Pro. I haven't taken an sd card out of my devices in months.
Thanks
Beautiful, I didn't think to hit menu after I was in the storage settings. I'll check out the wifi explorer too. Thank you guys!
MTP is just frigging awful. I've rooted my phone and installed Cyanogen.
Is there any way to get USB Mass Storage back, particularly in Recovery? In any way at all?
No, we don't have a mass storage compatible file system
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No, we don't have a mass storage compatible file system
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I very much wish we did. MTP is absolute garbage.
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I very much wish we did. MTP is absolute garbage.
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It's BEYOND garbage, no matter what OS I run it on. For example it fails to see recent files in my podcast client DoggCatcher directory so I can export it, so I have to manually upload via DropBox and pull it down from there - WTF??????????? On both my Nexus devices... IT'S CRAP!!!
What on EARTH were Google thinking with this GARBAGE??
So is there NO way around this?? Even on bare metal native Windows 8 with hardly anything else running, it STILL lags and misses files and complains about MP3's every time I try to transfer them...
Did Google provide any explanation for this garbage? And we can't even mount USB from recovery?? So what do we do if we can't boot in to our device and need to copy files across??
Seriously, I'd really like Google to explain this crap.
Just because iCrap devices do stupid stuff doesn't mean we have to??
Could we mount external storage from recovery using this USB OTG thing? Which I've never used BTW so have no idea how it works.
What about if the file system is EXT4 - surely we could mount it in at least Linux?
It's BEYOND garbage, no matter what OS I run it on. For example it fails to see recent files in my podcast client DoggCatcher directory so I can export it, so I have to manually upload via DropBox and pull it down from there - WTF??????????? On both my Nexus devices... IT'S CRAP!!!
What on EARTH were Google thinking with this GARBAGE??
There is no need to mount/unmount with MTP
So is there NO way around this?? Even on bare metal native Windows 8 with hardly anything else running, it STILL lags and misses files and complains about MP3's every time I try to transfer them...
There is no way around this
Did Google provide any explanation for this garbage? And we can't even mount USB from recovery?? So what do we do if we can't boot in to our device and need to copy files across??
Yes they did. (see answer to first question) NO. Push files using ADB
Seriously, I'd really like Google to explain this crap.
They did
Just because iCrap devices do stupid stuff doesn't mean we have to??
Claiming MTP is stupid is subjective
Could we mount external storage from recovery using this USB OTG thing? Which I've never used BTW so have no idea how it works.
USB OTB is not supported on the N4
What about if the file system is EXT4 - surely we could mount it in at least Linux?
No
You could Mount it in Linux.
In android /sdcard is fused so you can't Mount it while booted.
However in recovery (at least twrp) it is mounted as ext4. However you would have to modify twrp sources and compile a version that will physically Mount the partition so you could then access it in only Linux and only in recovery
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I use several Linux distros and have no problem mounting my N4 while it's on. Just make sure Settings>Developer Options>USB Debbuging is unchecked and it should work like a charm. The same may work for Windows but I don't know.
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You are still mounting as mtp in Linux though.
The op is requesting a method to Mount as a storage device rather than the standard media device which is native to the nexus 4
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You are still mounting as mtp in Linux though.
The op is requesting a method to Mount as a storage device rather than the standard media device which is native to the nexus 4
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It's still crap no matter what. For example being unable to see latest files in the DoggCatcher directory is just retarded, when a file manager sees the OPML export fine but I have to export via DropBox, and how it complains about MP3 files and so on.
Big deal about mounting. If that's the only explanation I don't get it. Maybe many people struggled with that I guess, but we don't have MTP on USB drives (yet, I hope it never happens!)
Does MTP mount in Linux Mint ok? Maybe it's just Windows that's annoying and crappy with it and maybe with the right config it works fine in Linux? I'm fine using either, I run both simultaneously but generally prefer Linux because it's faster, simpler, more streamlined and just WORKS without all these annoying 'features' and polite corporate marketing driven notifications every five seconds like I'm some moron that needs to be carefully 'let down' that 'your application MAY have crashed and you MAY have lost SOME of your data' - argh...
ADB push may work in recovery then if I need it... and can you ADB push an entire directory? Say if I have recorded radio streams, can I just pull up ADB in Linux and 'sync' or push the entire directory and be done with it?
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ADB push may work in recovery then if I need it... and can you ADB push an entire directory? Say if I have recorded radio streams, can I just pull up ADB in Linux and 'sync' or push the entire directory and be done with it?
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Yes. You can push and pull any directory you'd like.
adb pull /sdcard/xxxx/
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ADB is ridiculously slow though, only ever saw a peak of 4.5MB/sec on large files.
That is the same as you get through ftp, either USB or WiFi. I only ever get about 4.5mb/s
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USB Storage option available again!
I think somewhere in ICS OR JB (I'm on Carbon KitKat) they introduced a method to disconnect your SD card from the phone and mount it as USB storage. A bit convoluted, but it works perfect on my Ubuntu machine allowing for instant-updates and parallel file operations.
That would be wonderful.. I still loathe MTP... Directories and files often don't show.
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That would be wonderful.. I still loathe MTP... Directories and files often don't show.
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Ain't never going to happen with fuse
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How do you mount only the SD Card as USB Mass Storage?
YatharthROCK said:
I think somewhere in ICS OR JB (I'm on Carbon KitKat) they introduced a method to disconnect your SD card from the phone and mount it as USB storage. A bit convoluted, but it works perfect on my Ubuntu machine allowing for instant-updates and parallel file operations.
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Can you share how you managed to mount the SD card as USB storage?
Wow...blast from the past....recovery perhaps? I still hate MTP to this day. It's still unreliable and horrible.
I read it is not possible to do USB mass storage on the N4 because you would need position to be fat32.. and read that if you do enable it you couldn't read the partition on windows as it's ext4..
I run Linux so I can read ext4 no problem.. so is there a way to enable USB mass storage to use in Linux?
I hate the options we have for USB support to transfer files as half the time it don't work in Linux, and if I use on windows on other people's computers you need to download drivers..
USB mass storage you don't need any special drivers..
I doubt it, but hopefully when nexus 5 comes out they will give us an SD card slot and USB mass storage!
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I read it is not possible to do USB mass storage on the N4 because you would need position to be fat32.. and read that if you do enable it you couldn't read the partition on windows as it's ext4..
I run Linux so I can read ext4 no problem.. so is there a way to enable USB mass storage to use in Linux?
I hate the options we have for USB support to transfer files as half the time it don't work in Linux, and if I use on windows on other people's computers you need to download drivers..
USB mass storage you don't need any special drivers..
I doubt it, but hopefully when nexus 5 comes out they will give us an SD card slot and USB mass storage!
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Won't happen for Nexus 5. SD cards are not liked by Matias Duarte. And I think they've fully have moved to MTP. I do feel your pain win Linux. But you can get MTP to work. I have it working on my Ubuntu machine
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I am using Kubuntu 13.10 and MTP is working very really well without issues, first Ubuntu version that have it working right for me.
You can also try Go-mtpfs which will mount the drive and you can manipulate the files just like UMS and using syncing app, but its not entirely bug free as of now: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
I had mtp working, but seems only pictures and videos transfer.. no other file types..
Maybe I had something wrong..
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I had mtp working, but seems only pictures and videos transfer.. no other file types..
Maybe I had something wrong..
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Same here. I figured maybe I missed something. I have connected it using MTP and PTP. It will only allow transfer of pictures. I really need to know how to transfer files from computer to my phone. If I select zip to transfer it says not compatible. If I am connected to laptop and using Nexus 4 Toolkit, it recognizes the device, still can't manually transfer files though.
I've only been using Ubuntu for about a week and I'm having no trouble with transferring files via MTP. You need the Android SDK installed, just google it, I don't have a link. It seems to freeze up if I try to copy multiple large files, like a ROM plus Gapps for example, but it's fine if I copy them one at a time.
OK:
Here's my delima, I recently formatted my sd card to Internal storage.
Seems after that, I can't access my phone via PC, doesn't see it???
Tried all the normal stuff, changing USB to MTP and/or Pic.
Downloaded a bunch of Moto drivers etc. but still my Win 10 pc
doesn't see the phone. Any ideas?????
All stock setup running Marsh 6.0
Also, Helium backup use to work, not it doesn't connect either.
Ken
I posted this question elsewhere in this forum:
"Since Marshmallow, when I connect my Moto to Windows, even though I have Developer Options on MTP, it comes up as a Portable Media Player and I can't see any file structure. I have to go into to Developer Options, then click PTP, then click MTP to see Internal Files (no SD card). Anybody have any idea why? Windows 10 or Android 6 issue?" (I do have an SD card but it is formatted as internal memory and I use AppMgrIII to move apps to the SD card)
This was the answer I got.
Android 6 "issue"...which is actually an enhancement per them !
Can't you just use the pull down menus to enable mtp when you plug it in?
The card didn't fully format. Format it again, the card will disappear in the Storage setting screen. Wait for it to come back. Once it does, try again.
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Can't you just use the pull down menus to enable mtp when you plug it in?
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Yeah,
That doesn't work! I get a MTP Device Error in Device Manager in Win 10.
Tried reinstalling every Moto driver I could find, still there.
Win 10 doesn't even see the phone at all.
Funny, that it all worked good before the card formatting.
I will reformat the card and see what happens.
ken
kenfb1 said:
Yeah,
That doesn't work! I get a MTP Device Error in Device Manager in Win 10.
Tried reinstalling every Moto driver I could find, still there.
Win 10 doesn't even see the phone at all.
Funny, that it all worked good before the card formatting.
I will reformat the card and see what happens.
ken
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Here's what I get when trying to update friver:
I have the same problem i resorted to using total commander and adb plugin to transfer files.
got tired of that so then i used an FTP server from play store typed in the address in explorer and i had access to storage with wifi.
george241312 said:
I have the same problem i resorted to using total commander and adb plugin to transfer files.
got tired of that so then i used an FTP server from play store typed in the address in explorer and i had access to storage with wifi.
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Yeah,
I can use Airdroid to transfer if needed for now.
I give up for a while. I think that something happened
after 6.0 update and then I formatted SD card to internal
storage. That's when I lost my PC connection???
Ken
Go to developer options and see if you can mess with media section when using usb. Make sure mtp is set and try again.
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chindynasty said:
Go to developer options and see if you can mess with media section when using usb. Make sure mtp is set and try again.
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Hi,
I just formatted sd card back to portable. Rebooted phone and pc, still no luck.
I did try a few things in D.O. but to no avail. Must be something in the 6.0 update??
I think I tried everything else so far, even reinstalled all the SDK tools.
Ken
kenfb1 said:
Hi,
I just formatted sd card back to portable. Rebooted phone and pc, still no luck.
I did try a few things in D.O. but to no avail. Must be something in the 6.0 update??
I think I tried everything else so far, even reinstalled all the SDK tools.
Ken
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I'm also getting this error in Win 10:
Device USB\VID_22B8&PID_2E82\TA3940083O requires further installation
Have no idea what that is!!!!
Ken
kenfb1 said:
I'm also getting this error in Win 10:
Device USB\VID_22B8&PID_2E82\TA3940083O requires further installation
Have no idea what that is!!!!
Ken
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Your next bet is try non windows 10 OS and report back. Someone mentioned, windows 10 issue in regards to no recognizing sd card and it worked on windows 7
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Your next bet is try non windows 10 OS and report back. Someone mentioned, windows 10 issue in regards to no recognizing sd card and it worked on windows 7
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While connected to your pc, go to developer options and select usb configuration-> choose audio source -> then choose back mtp.
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Your next bet is try non windows 10 OS and report back. Someone mentioned, windows 10 issue in regards to no recognizing sd card and it worked on windows 7
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Hi,
Well, another surprise. It works on my daughters Windows 7 laptop and
on my wifes Windows 10 PC. ??? Still can't figure this out. I copied all
the drivers that were loaded on wifes Win 10 pc. Going to try to get
these drivers and manually add them to my Win 10 laptop.
Ken