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Where's the Wi-Fi love!

This is mostly just me, after a whole 24 hours of being a Note 10.1 owner (woot, go me) being annoyed that its the 3G owners that have gotten all the update goodies!
Germany got theirs a month ago, UK got theirs today... but only the 8000 models.
In theory this would mean that the 8010/8013 models will get released in Germany first, and then in the UK a month after that...
I really really *really* hope that this is not the case though. For this would be... vexing.
Saying that, I'll probably end up rooting and putting the uk 8000 rom onto my tablet anyway, as I am an impatient soul. But it is the principle of the thing that counts!
I think the reason this whole thing bothered me is this poll I saw the other day - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871383
If the 3G model was the most popular, then prioritising that firmware would make sense. It seems as though the WiFi models are by far the most prolific though!
OR.... WiFi users are more likely to answer polls.
Keep wishing hard guys, maybe we will get an update soon. and then hopefully someone will finally do a non-8000 custom rom!!

I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.

mace242 said:
I have just decided to enjoy what I have for now. 8010 update before Christmas at some time will be fine with me. I dumped an iPad and a transformer 101 for my note and one for my other half. We are pleased.
Being a software developer I know the importance of good testing and would rather wait than have to put up with junk. Just my tuppence worth.
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Makes sense, I also came from an iPad (the original one) and upgraded to a Note. Is quite a difference!

I'm a happy new owner also & very eager to get buttery smoothness on this fantastic piece of kit! hope we not waiting too long

I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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mafia187 said:
I had enough couldn't wait anymore flashed the German jellybean on my 8010 couldn't be happier. I couldn't stand the lag on ICS, jellybean so smoooothhh don't care much for the feature smoothness was the most important.
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is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?

goodie said:
is that the German 8000 firmware? what are the drawbacks?
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Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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i want some wifi love too :crying:
i would like to have more developing for this tablet

Only real noticeable drawback is that if you use a USB toggle to connect a wireless keyboard or mouse it will drop signal on the German OTA. Other than that and the OnDemand thing as mentioned earlier it works fine on the 8013.
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mafia187 said:
Yep the 8000 firmware, I don't notice any drawbacks. It's stable like ics, a lot smoother, battery life same as ics 3days 10.5hrs screen. The only thing is you gotta set govonor on-demand
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So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.

sencafe said:
So that's the 8000 firmware on a 8010 Note? I understood there were issues with the ROM looking for hardware that doesn't exist. Sorry for bringing this up again, I like my Note and don't want to stuff it up.
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I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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I'm pretty peev'd about this too. Can't believe that a non-3G device is getting the updates last of all. Surely theres no modem nor carrier testing to worry about so it should have actually been the first to be released?
I REALLY want to use the features of 4.1.1 and am refusing to utilise my Note properly until I get the official update.
COMEONE SAMSUNG!! Pull yer finger out!

mafia187 said:
I'm using "Team Union Rom" 8000 on my 8010 wifi without any problems what's so ever. All you have to do is use SetCPU which comes with the Rom to scaling: on-demand and check set on boot. No os issues, no random reboot all fine.
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+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices

I dont want to be forced to ROOT my device though unfortunately (I have a SGS3 for all my custom ROM business lol)
Got apps that won't work if ROOT is enabled on my device, and as I intend to use this note 10.1 for work related stuff its going to be essential having a stock ROM........

What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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bkeaver said:
What apps won't work on your SGS3 since root? I have yet to find anything whether it be on my note or my SGS3 that don't work...
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DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
There is a work around but I care not to implement it as it still means turning a security feature off which is not worth it just for my sake!!.
Anyway - Anyone wanting to 'voice their concern' regarding no JB for 8010 users - please post on samsung page here:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
(Look for post Entitled: GALAXY Note 10.1 gets Premium Suite update. Packs enhanced multitasking, new S Pen-optimized features and Android Jelly Bean.)

Good for Enterprise won't work on rooted phones when the no root policy is in effect.

zoomee said:
DME for Enterprise (Work exchange emails) - That's because the administrator has set it to not allow ROOTED or Jailbroken devices. (I know its because I set it up lol!)
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hehehe, I did the same thing on my servers

bkeaver said:
+1 on this. This rom runs perfectly on our wifi devices
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same here - runs perfect now, went through two or three complete shutdowns though, now only goes to sleep as it should do...using SetCPU with scaling on-demand and check set on boot - evrythinx fine now...

I'm also a new owner of this tablet(closing in on 3 weeks). I have a Galaxy Nexus, so I know what it feels like to get updates fast. It's a little troublesome waiting for Samsung to update this device. I told myself that I wouldn't complain since Google probably takes around the same amount of time putting together updates, but they have the luxury of seeming fast by putting them out first. What I don't understand is why Samsung is releasing the JB update for the the 3G version first. This may be due to my ignorance, if so please excuse it, but I thought it would be easier to update the WiFi version especially considering they're pretty much done the development of it.

KitKat Rolling Out on Rogers

Ran a software update check this morning on my Rogers Note3, after my friend mentioned he got KitKat on his Bell S4 on the weekend. Sure enough, 400+MB update was available.
Servers were slow (both my home Wi-Fi and LTE were getting the same speed. Took about an hour to download). Install went smoothly and only took 2-3 minutes. And KitKat it is.
I'm using Nova Launcher, so the only immediately visible change is that all the icons in the status bar are plain white. Otherwise, I perused through the system settings and didn't see much that was different beyond the addition of a "Printing" option under Connections > More networks, and the odd change here and there. However, things do feel smoother and basic stuff like unlocking the device has no lag at all.

Just a quick note, also available for Telus this morning...

p1rate7 said:
Just a quick note, also available for Telus this morning...
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Am wondering. I am rooted with knox 0x0 on 4.4.2 using the mexican telcel rom form a cpl months back and the old modem from 4.3 mj4.
I want to get latest KK from Rogers while maintaining root. SO I cant do an update this way. Is there a way to flash just the modem and sytem files form this update ot get me to latest version of things without wiping all my data?

I'm just wondering. Why is it because Bell and Rogers note 3 gets KitKat that at&t note 3 gets KitKat? Not trying to be a smartass or anything but does one of them own the other or something?
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tylercarter said:
I'm just wondering. Why is it because Bell and Rogers note 3 gets KitKat that at&t note 3 gets KitKat? Not trying to be a smartass or anything but does one of them own the other or something?
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I'm not really sure what you mean?
Bell, Rogers and Telus all use the same versions of most phones as what AT&T in the U.S. offer, as their networks share the same spectrum ranges. So when the manufacturer of a phone (Samsung) releases an OS update for an AT&T model phone, all four companies then have access to that and can tweak that update and release it to their customers when they wish. Typically (though not always) that means that all of the companies release updates to their customers around roughly the same time.

saltorio said:
I'm not really sure what you mean?
Bell, Rogers and Telus all use the same versions of most phones as what AT&T in the U.S. offer, as their networks share the same spectrum ranges. So when the manufacturer of a phone (Samsung) releases an OS update for an AT&T model phone, all four companies then have access to that and can tweak that update and release it to their customers when they wish. Typically (though not always) that means that all of the companies release updates to their customers around roughly the same time.
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You answered my question perfectly. Thanks! Hope to see KitKat on my note 3 soon.
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the way things are going cricket wireless will have kitkat for the note 3 before at&t and they probably don't even have the note 3 in their line up. you know its bad when sprint gets the update before us.

dligon said:
the way things are going cricket wireless will have kitkat for the note 3 before at&t and they probably don't even have the note 3 in their line up. you know its bad when sprint gets the update before us.
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Yeah I wonder what the holdup is.
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I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.

NICE! !!! ? lmao
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I upgraded to urdroid rom ... just to minimize the trolling banter just wanted all to know it works great for me. Not many visible differences but the feel is all you need to tell.
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Walter.White said:
I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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LOL :laugh: :highfive: It would be nice to have someone on the inside leaking info like that for us.

Walter.White said:
I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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I just wonder if they actually believe people use all or any of their bloatware. if their products were in a store it would be already marked down and discontinued.

I unrooted my Rogers Note 3 with Kingo and managed to download the update file on my device. Once I began the install it failed and rebooted. Any ideas?

Wait! Your telling me there are different apps out there that are not from at&t? Every aspect of the phone can be used by an AT&T app.
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Fixed! Used Kies and update worked. Anyone try Kingo to now root 4.4.2?

Lol. I got a kick out of that. Sounds a lot like something AT&T would do.
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I talked to my source and he said that AT&T already has the update but they are currently in the process of figuring out the maximum amount of bloatware they could add before phone stops booting.
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Just update to kit kat . Phone can't read or mount sdcard . need help please non-rooted

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/03/17/galaxy-note-3-android-4-4-kitkat-release-fast-pace/
I love the start of the second paragraph apparently no one must have gave At&t the memo about how fast the update was suppose to come out and we're suppose to have the fastest network of course but the slowest upgrades.

Just updated mine. Noticed a massive spike in android OS usage. Did a factory reset and ST card format
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Sprint Does Bloatware Right

I really like how Sprint installs the vast majority of a device's bloatware after you set up the device. It means you can simply uninstall it and it's actually gone. It's not just disabled or frozen. I understand the business reasons behind bloatware and of course I'd prefer it not be there at all. That said, since it isn't going away, I wish all carriers would adopt Sprint's method rather than cluttering up the system partition with it. Thoughts?
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Agreed. I've been with them awhile now and they are really easing up on it recently.
I guess this helps them get the product out faster since they don't need to bake these programs in the ROM anymore.

The most recent update I received (I've had like 3 of them already) pushed the additional bloatware, but when I try to uninstall it, it doesn't give the option. Can't wait until we can root this thing.

UPSGuy said:
Can't wait until we can root this thing.
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We can, the T Mob version works, but I would proceed with caution afterwards since we don't have a ROM image to flash if things go south.
I've just been tweaking stuff... Until I can actually remove it and not worry.

I was able to uninstall everything except Lookout, Sprint ID, and Sprint Zone. We are talking about all the extra apps installed by Sprint. This doesn't apply to the additional Samsung apps.
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Itchiee said:
We can, the T Mob version works, but I would proceed with caution afterwards since we don't have a ROM image to flash if things go south.
I've just been tweaking stuff... Until I can actually remove it and not worry.
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How many people have successfully used the t-mob on the sprint note 4?

Me, and two others.
It does break system updates but we'll have downloadable roms soon enough.

Itchiee said:
That's the Note 3, don't use.
SM - 910p
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Yeah, realized after I posted it and edited post.

I can't uninstall or freeze Evernote either.
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Evernote is an app that Samsung preinstalls. It's highly integrated with S-Note, which is why you can't disable it. Same with Flipboard.
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Just the same as carrier branding on sprints phones... there is little to none. I like it that way. I dont go walking down the street, see someone with a huge wart of a verizon logo on the phone and say to myself, "im getting Verizon". Its rediculous that carriers have to put their big old stamp on otherwise beutiful hardware. Same goes for software. I dont see the point in 20 apps that simply take you to the carriers website. Sprint has its share of bloat but its not nearly as bad as others.

Agreed. When it comes to bloatware, AT&T is by far the worst. I owned their Galaxy S5 and there were 17 apps that were specifically installed by AT&T. They even preinstall an app called ReadyToGo which replaces the standard welcome/setup screen (when you turn the device on for the first time) with one that's got AT&T's brand all over it. That's just obscene.
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I'm shocked at the lack of "bloat" on this phone. Almost all the Sprint apps are easily uninstalled, but what gets me is the lack of Samsung apps. First time ever I don't have a Samsung folder full of their apps. I actually opened Galaxy App and installed a few just to see whats going on..........

jauger said:
I'm shocked at the lack of "bloat" on this phone. Almost all the Sprint apps are easily uninstalled, but what gets me is the lack of Samsung apps. First time ever I don't have a Samsung folder full of their apps. I actually opened Galaxy App and installed a few just to see whats going on..........
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needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever

fatboypup said:
needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever
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I read his post and I saw no way to interpret it as him advocating for more bloatware. That post was made out of happiness at how little there is.
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oldblue910 said:
I read his post and I saw no way to interpret it as him advocating for more bloatware. That post was made out of happiness at how little there is.
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i know ....... im just having some fun

fatboypup said:
i know ....... im just having some fun
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Sorry. Didn't mean to sound like a prick.
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oldblue910 said:
Sorry. Didn't mean to sound like a prick.
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ive NEVER seen a prick on XDA .........
See what I did there?! haha Cheers!:highfive:

fatboypup said:
needs MOAR bloat ........ said no one ever
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Do I really want a S5 port on my nice new shiny Note 4?? lol

jauger said:
Do I really want a S5 port on my nice new shiny Note 4?? lol
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Sure, why not?
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Just switched from the m8

Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way... Swapping ROMs improve it though.
Welcome to the Note 4, I'm sure you'll love it!

Let us know how your experience goes.
I really love my Note 4. I am currently running Infamous ROM 2.8 and the performance is incredible. It blows the stock ROM out of the water.

Welcome to a real camera

I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.

keasey said:
I'm in a similar situation. Came from using a nexus 4. Not sure if I want to root or which Samsung apps people tend to turn off and which they find useful. Fun stuff though. I think I'm gonna wait for lollipop update and decide then.
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Go a week or more and then decide which apps you'd like to freeze or leave alone.
Should be enough time to get a feel for it and decide which apps you like.

I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Rayan said:
Rooting will not change the phone experience in any way...
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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.

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Oh, but it will.. And it does. Rooting alone allows you to do most of the things you can do on a custom ROM, but you're doing it to the stock ROM. Even without a custom recovery, you can still modify system files, freeze/uninstall system apps, run root apps, etc.
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Oh I know that, but I meant rooting alone does not degrade the experience. As you rightfully said, the experience can be improved drastically while rooted even on stock firmware.
Cheers ?
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I would like to know if there is any way to get the voice activation on Google now to work while S-voice is on
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Take a look around the Q&A and General sections. Most questions you have, already have been asked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/google-s-voice-t2910499

i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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The battery has no problem lasting all day
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I would definitely root and flash a ROM asap. Stock rom is ok but any of the TouchWiz ROM for T Mobile will flat out just feel snappier.

Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.

tommason1968 said:
Not sure if I'm going to root yet as I'm still trying to get used to this phone. So far it seems ok.
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Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.

fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Where did you hear that the battery life isn't good?
I typically get 2.5 days per full charge with between 4.5 and 6 hours of screen on time per charge depending on if I am reading, or doing media (games, youtube).
If anything I would wait for the Note 5, but that will be a while. I'd suggest getting the Note 4 because it's quite simply a very amazing beast of a phone and then using JUMP to upgrade in 6 months if you so desire.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Roflmao lag ok
fix-this! said:
i also have an upgrade available but im not sure if i should use it on the note 4. it is tempting but in a few months the m9 will be here along with other s810 processor based devices. Plus i hear the n4s battery life isnt that great.
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Battery is great I got 2 days or more with 7 to 9 hours of screen time

Android_Monsters said:
Welcome to the majors op. You'll love it. I had an m8 before. The freedom of having an unlocked bootloader, root, and plenty custom roms got me away from HTC, as well.
No more having to s-off and the firewater exploits being closed and lack of roms.
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Compared to the process of rooting a htc how difficult is it to root the note 4
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It's way easier to root the note 4:
You're in in 5.
Here are the instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
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Had to do one at my parents house.
It took me 10 minutes because I was downloading a rom, at the same time, and my parents internet sucks.

fix-this! said:
Played with a n4 at bestbuy today. Lagged like hell for me. Even the samsung rep saw it. To say the least i walked away.
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Which Best Buy? From what I've seen at nearly all my local Best Buy they only have dummy phones and none of them carry t mobile phones

Nexus 6 on Ting...

Been on Sprint for years an decided to try out Ting to see if I can save a little money.Yes I'm Rooted an been using all kinds of Roms.I was just wondering if anybody else out there is using a Nexus 6 on Ting an if they have any info that I would need to know. I did notice I only seem to get LTE if I'm on a Stock ROM other wise it says 3G..Just want to hear about other people's results etc...Thanks

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Been on Sprint for years an decided to try out Ting to see if I can save a little money.Yes I'm Rooted an been using all kinds of Roms.I was just wondering if anybody else out there is using a Nexus 6 on Ting an if they have any info that I would need to know. I did notice I only seem to get LTE if I'm on a Stock ROM other wise it says 3G..Just want to hear about other people's results etc...Thanks
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Used ting for a month, no issues other than what you already stated in aosp roms
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GBPackerFanForLife said:
Been on Sprint for years an decided to try out Ting to see if I can save a little money.Yes I'm Rooted an been using all kinds of Roms.I was just wondering if anybody else out there is using a Nexus 6 on Ting an if they have any info that I would need to know. I did notice I only seem to get LTE if I'm on a Stock ROM other wise it says 3G..Just want to hear about other people's results etc...Thanks
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Ting is great, never had any problems or roms that had any problems. M works also.
be sure to change to LTE from global

My only issue is going to be the Data portion today was my first full day with them an I already almost hit a GB lol...I don't talk or text that much so I'm thinking the data is going to be expensive.. Well see.

GBPackerFanForLife said:
My only issue is going to be the Data portion today was my first full day with them an I already almost hit a GB lol...I don't talk or text that much so I'm thinking the data is going to be expensive.. Well see.
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Ting is going to cost you a ton if you're using that much data
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