Android training - EVO Shift 4G General

Hey guys, I have been reading through this site, http://developer.android.com/training/index.html and I plan to go through the classes and build my first app. I was wondering what the more experienced folks here think of the site.

Thanks for the heads up . Didn't really take a good look yet. But it seems interesting.

At a glance it seems like a good idea. Even if its not the greatest tool, it should be a great starting point. Might hafta look into that some more ...

I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to use Eclipse with out profanity!:banghead:
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to use Eclipse with out profanity!:banghead:
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Yeah it's not excellent when your starting out with it.
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Well I meant to say that jokingly but (%)/*8#*%!!! Ahh. I feel better now. I was going through the video AdamOutler has on youtube for making your first app and I think I screwed up in the initial download and set up of sdk so I'm starting over. :screwy:
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Alright Kool

AdamOutler is using Linux in his how to make your first app youtube videos. I'm using Vista on my old HP laptop. I know I really need to upgrade but what is the advantage of Linux over Windows?
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
AdamOutler is using Linux in his how to make your first app youtube videos. I'm using Vista on my old HP laptop. I know I really need to upgrade but what is the advantage of Linux over Windows?
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Without going into a lot of details, the info I've gotten points to Linux making things a lot easier when doing Dev work.
TEAM MiK
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It depends on what the dev work is specifically, what your target platform is and the specific tools available for each platform.
As far as android application development, the tools are cross-platform and from my 'minimal' experience I have yet to come across any development quirks that would point me towards using one platform over another.
Use what you are comfortable with most.

Chad The Pathfinder said:
AdamOutler is using Linux in his how to make your first app youtube videos. I'm using Vista on my old HP laptop. I know I really need to upgrade but what is the advantage of Linux over Windows?
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Oh man, I remember the first time I used linux.
The only reason I still keep a windows parition on my laptop is the occasional need to do some gaming. Lol

jesuscash said:
Oh man, I remember the first time I used linux.
The only reason I still keep a windows parition on my laptop is the occasional need to do some gaming. Lol
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well I've been trying to follow this http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/26/ho...om-for-android-part-1-setting-up-the-kitchen/ to learn to use DsiXDA's kitchen and I'm having trouble figuring out how to download to install the java files ubuntu requires. ubuntu seems prety cool but I'm kind of stuck until I get this going. It seems like the more I read the less I know... It's quite a bit discouraging.

Its a learning process for sure. Just have to forget windows and read alot.
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Silverlight for android?

Anybody knows if there is a version of silverlight for android?There are a lot of rumors but i am not sure and i need silverlight for a video streaming..i will be pleased with answers..thanx in advance..
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Unbelievable..So long time still no answer..No body has any clue???Maybe a trick just to make silverlight work on android also will be appreciated..Thnx..
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Maybe because no-one knows or "kissass" no-is bothered lol
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actually that's a good question. There's gotta be a way to bring Silverlight to android. Any Devs volunteer for the job?
ilya.glants said:
actually that's a good question. There's gotta be a way to bring Silverlight to android. Any Devs volunteer for the job?
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I dont think it would be a big of a problem for any developer since android is fully capable with flash already..Any ideas??
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silverlight is a microsoft product, if microsoft doesnt choose to make a version for android then you are out of luck. what i would suggest is to vnc into a desktop and then watch the jerky unwatchable video through that =)
Funny, I'm still waiting for silverlight with full drm support for linux. Android was based off of linux. So all I can tell you is keep waiting for microsoft to port it over. BTW, no dev I know is going to touch a microsoft branded software.
killersnowman said:
silverlight is a microsoft product, if microsoft doesnt choose to make a version for android then you are out of luck. what i would suggest is to vnc into a desktop and then watch the jerky unwatchable video through that =)
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How can i vnc in to a desktop??Sorry i am very new to android
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bkilit said:
How can i vnc in to a desktop??Sorry i am very new to android
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Search on the market, there are lots of client + an official one from the VNC team. You install a server on your computer, configure the connection, and that s ok.
Really easy !
And how about porting moonlight?
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mathijs727 said:
And how about porting moonlight?
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Or sunlight along with project bluebeam
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hey after searching the net I found that Devs are trying to port moonlight to android and working on that for some time now. hope it will be released by the end of the year. source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/moonlight-dev-crew-brings-silverlight-to-android-20110415/

Advice for someone who wants to start romming

I kinda want to get into developing, but I don't know where to start or how to start. I want to make a personal one until I get some knowledge in case something makes a booboo. Also kinda looking to make a kernal.
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warlar12 said:
I kinda want to get into romming, but I don't know where to start or how to start. I want to make a personal one until I get some knowledge incase something makes a booboo. Also kinda looking to make a kernal.
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I don't mean to be rude but its called Developing... not Romming.... just FYI... good luck dude!!!
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Ok man, if I were you I would play around with a linux box to get to know linux commands, then I would play with modding the kernel on that linux computer. I recommend this so you don't build a rom with a how to and. Then put it on your phone and end up with a brick.
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sniperkill said:
I don't mean to be rude but its called Developing... not Romming.... just FYI... good luck dude!!!
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lol thanks for the clarification, I typed it while I was in class so my brain was half gone
Best advice is go buy an evo and dev there
From Cyanogen himself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
imtjnotu said:
Best advice is go buy an evo and dev there
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as good as that sounds, we need devs :X
Magic Oreo said:
as good as that sounds, we need devs :X
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In the near future I'm going to buy a new hard drive for my desktop computer and will install windows 7 and linux(Ubuntu the newest version) so I can duel boot. Is there a suggested linux OS?
Now before you ask "why do you need a new hard drive?" Well that is because somehow I lost it, dont ask me how ha.
I shall try my best to learn!
Can't start until I replace my mobo; but should be done within the next week and a half
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First piece of advice... Use the general tab for any thread not actively working on some sort of development..
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First piece of advice... Use the general tab for any thread not actively working on some sort of development..
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Thanks for the advice on whre to post tis
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WP7 Rom [pshh not here]

Edit: The usual has happened here on the "great" XDA. Nothing to see here folks go ahead and close this one also. Thanks *salute*
if it ran, if play with it.
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I totaly would love that
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wp7 will never happen on the evo. the devs just do not seem interested in doing it. i too wouldn't mind playing with it but i doubt it will come to light.
more soo id still love too see webos ported to the evo, even xda has a section for it now.
fixxxer2008 said:
wp7 will never happen on the evo. the devs just do not seem interested in doing it. i too wouldn't mind playing with it but i doubt it will come to light.
more soo id still love too see webos ported to the evo, even xda has a section for it now.
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For sure, webos is pretty fun to play with, I owned a pre for a little then traded it for my cdma heroc.
Edit: Aren't the evo and hd2 pretty much identical? (Hardware wise)
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dirkyd3rk said:
For sure, webos is pretty fun to play with, I owned a pre for a little then traded it for my cdma heroc.
Edit: Aren't the evo and hd2 pretty much identical? (Hardware wise)
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yeah i think the hd2, hd7 and the evo are pretty similar.
Legally... porting w7 to the hd2 is just as wrong as porting it to the evo....
all those people that say i has a license, so what? its like saying i have a license to run windows vista... so i can install a hacked version of windows 7 legally.
If they are allowed to post those roms here, we can too. The only thing is finding devs to do it.
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Legally... porting w7 to the hd2 is just as wrong as porting it to the evo....
all those people that say i has a license, so what? its like saying i have a license to run windows vista... so i can install a hacked version of windows 7 legally.
If they are allowed to post those roms here, we can too. The only thing is finding devs to do it.
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Great post man +1 you have a strong point.
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i used to have a hd7 and loved it the only reason i gave it up was because i got a hd2 to dual boot wp7 and android
Halabeaster54 said:
i used to have a hd7 and loved it the only reason i gave it up was because i got a hd2 to dual boot wp7 and android
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Good call, its crazy to me how the hd2 has so much freaking support lol. I'm jealous of your dual booting phone.
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actually hp is open to community devs now. i would gladly pay for a port of wp7 or webos. i just hope we could get a great dev to do the work for us.
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actually hp is open to community devs now. i would gladly pay for a port of wp7 or webos. i just hope we could get a great dev to do the work for us.
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Yeah so would I, in a heartbeat.
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I third that
dirkyd3rk said:
Yeah so would I, in a heartbeat.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Yeah so would I, in a heartbeat.
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I don't like you but, I like your thread.
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...as if modifying and distributing HTC's copyrighted code wasn't the same thing.
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I don't like you but, I like your thread.
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at least you're honest
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I really wish a port would come to fruition. However, no dev even seems remotely interested.
Also, windows phone 7 has been out for quite a while now on GSM carriers, but there has been no port to a GSM android device. I fear there might be more issues than just developer interest.
lakers1624 said:
Also, windows phone 7 has been out for quite a while now on GSM carriers, but there has been no port to a GSM android device. I fear there might be more issues than just developer interest.
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I just read that the HTC arrive doesn't even have wimax support. I'm sure it would have been alot easier if it did. I'm guessing it would be a full time job for someone to take along the port i.e getting wimax to work and etc. So right now I don't believe there's even a cdma wp7 phone with wimax yet. Bummer
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im sure we could get this too work. if they can port it to the hd2 then we can have it also. we just need a dev here to give it a go. im thinking virus could get interested.

(XPRT) Who's up for some development? :D

Alright. Well I know everyone around here has been eager for a REAL custom ROM for the XPRT. I'm gonna start working on CyanogenMod 10 or 10.1 or whatever. But heres my background. I'm an 18 year old high school student on my senior year with not so good grades at the moment in math and economics. I don't exactly go to the best school, I'm unemployed, and I live in a group home. So I don't exactly have lots of time and resources on my hands. Enough about me. What I'm really here for is to ask for a team of people. Whether you want to be a future developer, you like computers, you like potatoes, whatever. I need some people to collaborate with me. I've included some links below along with prerequisites. Respond to the post or PM if interested.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_Submitting_A_Port
http://sourceforge.net/motorola/mb612/home/Home/
Prerequisites: A 64 bit version of Linux (Ubuntu), A fairly decent size hard drive, (preferably) 2 or more gigabytes of RAM, the better the computer the better! Some persistence, patience, and time.
Looking forward to hear from you guys!
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Sum me up, I can/am willing to help!
Speaking of linux, I am certainly not well-versed, but can find my way around it.
I have a fairly decent notebook and a fairly decent desktop, that will be glad aswell to help.
donlloreda said:
Sum me up, I can/am willing to help!
Speaking of linux, I am certainly not well-versed, but can find my way around it.
I have a fairly decent notebook and a fairly decent desktop, that will be glad aswell to help.
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First things first. Look into Ubuntu and 64 bit processing and see if your computer has one!
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should we must use 64 bit of UNBUNTO?
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Yes, you have to use the 64 bit version.
I am willing to help. I have a some knowledge with Linux and all that. I am willing to learn more.
I am running Ubuntu 64 bit with an i3 processor and 8 GB of ram. I dont have much disk space, because 1, my hard drive is only 120 GB, and 2, I am dual booting with windows. so i have about 20 gb with ubuntu.
zacharyb5386 said:
I am willing to help. I have a some knowledge with Linux and all that. I am willing to learn more.
I am running Ubuntu 64 bit with an i3 processor and 8 GB of ram. I dont have much disk space, because 1, my hard drive is only 120 GB, and 2, I am dual booting with windows. so i have about 20 gb with ubuntu.
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20 should be good from what I know. I've been having trouble with mine so I seriously need help here. Read the latest post on our planning for cm9 post and you'll know what I'm talking about. And the computers hardware is great btw lol.
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BlackFire27 said:
20 should be good from what I know. I've been having trouble with mine so I seriously need help here. Read the latest post on our planning for cm9 post and you'll know what I'm talking about. And the computers hardware is great btw lol.
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I have been reading up on android development for the past day, ive gone to the links you have provided and downadloaded the kernel, just been doing random things to teach myself. just give me somewhere to start out and i will do my best to help.
i dont go to school, i only have a part time job right now, but i do have a girlfriend, so she takes up most of my time.. so i will have a good amount of time usually late at night or for part of a day, usually mornings, to work on this.
HEy bro!
BlackFire27 said:
First things first. Look into Ubuntu and 64 bit processing and see if your computer has one!
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Mate, Ive got a brand new i7 8gb ram pc... I want to help you on your development, but come on read my thread, and you help me with that, I know we might eventually come up with something WAY TOO COOL!
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I´ve got some doubts on compiling CM10 due to the lack of hw specific drivers..... plus man.. my brother has a razr maxx with cm10 installed and the user interface is just as fast as the stock GB rom... and we cannot upload custom kernel to our phones
But anyway I´ll help you on count with me!!!
zacharyb5386 said:
I have been reading up on android development for the past day, ive gone to the links you have provided and downadloaded the kernel, just been doing random things to teach myself. just give me somewhere to start out and i will do my best to help.
i dont go to school, i only have a part time job right now, but i do have a girlfriend, so she takes up most of my time.. so i will have a good amount of time usually late at night or for part of a day, usually mornings, to work on this.
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Ubuntu 64 bit version and those links are a good starting place I suppose.
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donlloreda said:
Mate, Ive got a brand new i7 8gb ram pc... I want to help you on your development, but come on read my thread, and you help me with that, I know we might eventually come up with something WAY TOO COOL!
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I´ve got some doubts on compiling CM10 due to the lack of hw specific drivers..... plus man.. my brother has a razr maxx with cm10 installed and the user interface is just as fast as the stock GB rom... and we cannot upload custom kernel to our phones
But anyway I´ll help you on count with me!!!
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Alright dude lol and btw the razr maxx is one hell of a phone. So development is plentiful. And of course we can upload a custom kernel. Just gotta build one. Either way the stock already does it job on ics.
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BlackFire27 said:
Ubuntu 64 bit version and those links are a good starting place I suppose.
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k, ill see where it takes me.
zacharyb5386 said:
k, ill see where it takes me.
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Get to know Ubuntu. I personally suggest 12.04. Ubuntu is Linux. Android is Linux. The more you learn in Ubuntu is quite useful in every other Linux powered device in the world. And trust me. There's more and more of them every day. I hope you find Linux just as amazing as I do!
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There´s ubuntu phone OS coming sometime soon even....
yes, you got to learn your way around, but it is as easy and frustrating as using a mac when youre used to windows...just be patient, you´ll get the things done, but in a different way
,So blackfire, so how is that custom kernel uploaded? I remember when I used to own the def+, the only way to upgrade the kernel was modding the GB one to get some features working (battery and hw acceleration) on CM10.
Oh yeah, the Ubuntu for phones OS looks cool. I was hoping someone here might be interested in porting it once it becomes good enough to use as a daily driver.
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donlloreda said:
There´s ubuntu phone OS coming sometime soon even....
yes, you got to learn your way around, but it is as easy and frustrating as using a mac when youre used to windows...just be patient, you´ll get the things done, but in a different way
,So blackfire, so how is that custom kernel uploaded? I remember when I used to own the def+, the only way to upgrade the kernel was modding the GB one to get some features working (battery and hw acceleration) on CM10.
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I'm not too sure. As I've said, I can't work on this myself yet still. But from what I know, using the stock kernel as a base you can rebuild using things like linaro and whatnot. Kernel development is no easy task.
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tzuba12 said:
Yes, you have to use the 64 bit version.
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my computer's CPU can't support it :crying:
Hot-dog007 said:
my computer's CPU can't support it :crying:
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How new is your computer?
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How new is your computer?
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my computer's CPU is 32 bit ,not 64 bit.It wouldn't can run 64 bit of Ubuntu, I guess:crying:
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my computer's CPU is 32 bit ,not 64 bit.It wouldn't can run 64 bit of Ubuntu, I guess:crying:
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Know the processor name?
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Free Firefox OS device

Hi guys I saw somewhere that if I build apps for the firefox os I will get a geeksphone keon for free.So I am going to start app development if this is true.
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You'd be abusing that opportunity if all you want is a free phone out of it. That offer is there for developers who need official Firefox OS hardware to perform hardware tests on their application they are developing which can't be accurately tested via a SDK such as Camera, GPS or NFC capabilities.
If you are interested in App development for Firefox OS then I suggest you test your apps via the Firefox browser on your PC using this addon:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firefox-os-simulator/
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Hi guys I saw somewhere that if I build apps for the firefox os I will get a geeksphone keon for free.So I am going to start app development if this is true.
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What has XDA turned into sad day when people just wanna make something to get something free instead of doing it to learn :/ blah.
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toxicpaulution said:
What has XDA turned into sad day when people just wanna make something to get something free instead of doing it to learn :/ blah.
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You maybe are right but I don't want the device for nothing.I want it because I want to test some apps that I coded which can't be tested via Simulator or something.It needs real hardware so a real device.And if you don't know I hate making something just to get something free.I make apps,ROMs or kernels just because I love Android and everything around of it.No offense and as I said before you have right but first make sure for the personality of someone or just stop telling b*ll****s.Sorry for my bad words but this is how I felt when I read this!
sakisosf said:
Hi guys I saw somewhere that if I build apps for the firefox os I will get a geeksphone keon for free
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Have you found where you have read it?
sakisosf said:
Hi guys I saw somewhere that if I build apps for the firefox os I will get a geeksphone keon for free.So I am going to start app development if this is true.
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good luck with that
You are right, I did get a Geeksphone Peak for free (or for developing app for them).
But that was at an hackathon that a company here arranged, so you might have to find one of those.

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