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I just want to share this amazing software named Tvpaint Still is in beta but it has advanced tools. The Note is perfect for this software.
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This is an app from hell. I haven't seen the desktop version but, for sure looks like a full OS application on Android to me...
IMO, looks really complicated for the simple tools needed for sketching and drawing...
Secondly, if this app makes a full debut, I don't think this app will be cheap. The full desktop version costs around $500 bucks, so we'll see. The app has a time-bomb so it's only useable to November 30th (I think).
Ron
This app is my main workhorse for now, but I'm also not too hopeful on the price after it comes out of beta. Good chance I'll just make do w/ SKM and LayerPaint on my Note, w/ CS5 on my desktop to handle the remaining heavy lifting. Adobe really dropped the ball on PS Touch for this device.
jedah said:
This app is my main workhorse for now, but I'm also not too hopeful on the price after it comes out of beta. Good chance I'll just make do w/ SKM and LayerPaint on my Note, w/ CS5 on my desktop to handle the remaining heavy lifting. Adobe really dropped the ball on PS Touch for this device.
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I've grown quite fond of LayerPaint, TVP is just too difficult to get used to for me, so many buttons. I just wish there was something like SAI with editable vector lines.
ron2k_1 said:
This is an app from hell. I haven't seen the desktop version but, for sure looks like a full OS application on Android to me...
IMO, looks really complicated for the simple tools needed for sketching and drawing...
Secondly, if this app makes a full debut, I don't think this app will be cheap. The full desktop version costs around $500 bucks, so we'll see. The app has a time-bomb so it's only useable to November 30th (I think).
Ron
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You say all of this like a critic--- an artist ( like this one<----) spends nearly 70-90% of their income on supplies to 'create', or to breathe life into their vision--- case in point: I spent my last paycheck on this device on Monday. So I'm eating beans and rice for two weeks, so what? This is the first production-level mobile device available. Certainly superior to iPad.
Too complicated??? Do you not see it's animation software? I'd buy this app even it it were $50-$100. It may very well be one of the first 'full-OS' applications on android. Celebrate, don't complain!
And useable till Feb 2013....
EEYORE, please try not to shoot down other people's fun and excitement.... I was dumb enough to not look this up the other day because of your having poo-pooed it....
Along with the critics negative ratings of this tablet (personally I think they're being paid by apple) I hereby refuse to listen to any of you nay-sayers.
Thanks OP for the AWESOME score! This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for!!!
Will post first project once I get through the learning curve.
Peace!
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You say all of this like a critic--- an artist ( like this one<----) spends nearly 70-90% of their income on supplies to 'create', or to breathe life into their vision--- case in point: I spent my last paycheck on this device on Monday. So I'm eating beans and rice for two weeks, so what? This is the first production-level mobile device available. Certainly superior to iPad.
Too complicated??? Do you not see it's animation software? I'd buy this app even it it were $50-$100. It may very well be one of the first 'full-OS' applications on android. Celebrate, don't complain!
And useable till Feb 2013....
EEYORE, please try not to shoot down other people's fun and excitement.... I was dumb enough to not look this up the other day because of your having poo-pooed it....
Along with the critics negative ratings of this tablet (personally I think they're being paid by apple) I hereby refuse to listen to any of you nay-sayers.
Thanks OP for the AWESOME score! This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for!!!
Will post first project once I get through the learning curve.
Peace!
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I would love to see something made using this app.
I'm not even close to a "pro" so I wont be needing it, but I'm wondering what can be done with it.
Damn, this seems to be hell of a software... and definitely too professional for me without tutorials ^^
Would like to see whats possible with this app.
Though they could have given it a more polished/modern look, not that super-old windows style.
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One thread in a forum I read suggest that it will cost $500+. It seems you buy a license for one install per all supported OS's. Example purchase of one license allows one copy on a mac desktop and one more on an ubuntu laptop. So if you already own a windows, mac or linux version you would get the android for free. When pushed for an answer the guy representing TVpaint was not much help. I read this a little while ago things may have changed since then.
aletheus said:
You say all of this like a critic--- an artist ( like this one<----) spends nearly 70-90% of their income on supplies to 'create', or to breathe life into their vision--- case in point: I spent my last paycheck on this device on Monday. So I'm eating beans and rice for two weeks, so what? This is the first production-level mobile device available. Certainly superior to iPad.
Too complicated??? Do you not see it's animation software? I'd buy this app even it it were $50-$100. It may very well be one of the first 'full-OS' applications on android. Celebrate, don't complain!
And useable till Feb 2013....
EEYORE, please try not to shoot down other people's fun and excitement.... I was dumb enough to not look this up the other day because of your having poo-pooed it....
Along with the critics negative ratings of this tablet (personally I think they're being paid by apple) I hereby refuse to listen to any of you nay-sayers.
Thanks OP for the AWESOME score! This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for!!!
Will post first project once I get through the learning curve.
Peace!
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I am not a critic, but would trully enjoy seeing a creation done using this app. If you don't want to make it public PM me. Thanks
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aletheus said:
You say all of this like a critic--- an artist ( like this one<----) spends nearly 70-90% of their income on supplies to 'create', or to breathe life into their vision--- case in point: I spent my last paycheck on this device on Monday. So I'm eating beans and rice for two weeks, so what? This is the first production-level mobile device available. Certainly superior to iPad.
Too complicated??? Do you not see it's animation software? I'd buy this app even it it were $50-$100. It may very well be one of the first 'full-OS' applications on android. Celebrate, don't complain!
And useable till Feb 2013....
EEYORE, please try not to shoot down other people's fun and excitement.... I was dumb enough to not look this up the other day because of your having poo-pooed it....
Along with the critics negative ratings of this tablet (personally I think they're being paid by apple) I hereby refuse to listen to any of you nay-sayers.
Thanks OP for the AWESOME score! This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for!!!
Will post first project once I get through the learning curve.
Peace!
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I'm sorry if you thought I was jelly pooping all over the thread. I was just mentioning the fact that this is not an app; this is a full desktop software application on Android. I'm pretty sure this will be a really good app for the professional (like you). I assume that you do art work for some sort of living...
Now, I'm just a regular sketch monkey. And there are many like me; and I can't believe you don't seem to agree that this app has WAY too many buttons and menus... I like simplicity, even for my line of work - I'm an accountant. Again, sorry if my comments stepped on your hate pet.
For the poster that wanted to see this app in action; check this out:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/new...1-launching-soon-discussion-6.html#post289420
And this ons for LayerPaint:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/new...1-launching-soon-discussion-6.html#post289419
There are other videos in the thread if you want to snoop around
Ron
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ron2k_1 said:
I'm sorry if you thought I was jelly pooping all over the thread. I was just mentioning the fact that this is not an app; this is a full desktop software application on Android. I'm pretty sure this will be a really good app for the professional (like you). I assume that you do art work for some sort of living...
Now, I'm just a regular sketch monkey. And there are many like me; and I can't believe you don't seem to agree that this app has WAY too many buttons and menus... I like simplicity, even for my line of work - I'm an accountant. Again, sorry if my comments stepped on your hate pet.
For the poster that wanted to see this app in action; check this out:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/new...1-launching-soon-discussion-6.html#post289420
And this ons for LayerPaint:
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/new...1-launching-soon-discussion-6.html#post289419
There are other videos in the thread if you want to snoop around
Ron
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It'd be great to see an animation app with the simplicity of Corell Painter.
Not a hater here, just all I saw in your post was "not good enough"---hence the Eeyore comment. Lets be friends, mKay?
I make enough to scrape by, but yes, my artistic/creative endeavours fund my meager existence. The curve is steep on tvpaint, and it'd be tough to swing a $500 software purchase, so I'll get what I can done with it while its in beta.
Checking out layerpaint
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A single user license for TVPaint is 1180 € (~$1500) for the Pro edition and 495 € (~$640) for the standard edition. Students can get a discount.
Since the app seems to want to fully emulate the desktop version, you might assume that they'd use the same pricing for an Android app. I'm not so sure of this - they could well introduce all-new pricing for mobile - but it's a possibility. I wouldn't however bet that you would get it for less than a couple of hundred.
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So Koush on twitter just announced he is returning his xoom.
which ****en sucks, i hope he is kind enough to give us RM when the sdcard is supported.
and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
this all kinda sucks in the eyes of consumers (me + you) for software developers and even accessories. I dont know, maybe im kinda freaking but, it looks as though the motorola xoom is the nexus one of android tablets....i just hope it stays that way in the dev world.
Today seems to be a dark day for the Xoom community as well. All these bad news about the end of production, people canceling Xoom orders for the new G-Tab, now Koush leaving. But life goes on and I love my Xoom! After all, the Xoom is just the vessel for Honeycomb, isn't it? And as long as the bee lives we'll be supported by great developers
Hey Honestly,
Koush is a cool guy and he holds a ton of weight in the android community and I personally respect him and his talent, that being said I could give 2 ****s about what he or anyone else buys, never buys, or returns, and so should everyone else.
Personally the Xoom does what I need it to, and I like it. Some people will feel the same way about the Ipad 2, some people feel the same way about the galaxy tab, and some people feel the same way about Cheese. Out of all of us whos right? Every single one
If you like the Xoom be happy with it, if not return it. Simple as that. My only request is you dont post on here about how awsome your new device is because honestly you can go post that in the forum of the new device and it will not make people angry or sound like your gloating
The Xoom is the Nexus One of the Tab community, because with all of these new devices coming out who knows how much bloat ware or sense or blur or other crap they will have on them. Samsung for one does a totally steller job of providing updates for their devices (thats sarcasm) so I wouldn’t buy anything from them, but again this is my opinion, and someone may totally love their devices and want to catch them all (just like the pokemon) .
As for Motorola, what they’re doing is pretty standard. Think about it they probably have been producing units since Jan possibly even December for a early march release, a 6 month production run in a market where every week a newer shinnier toy comes out I feel is pretty standard.
Thats all just my opinion hope it makes you feel a little better tho And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy
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and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
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Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.
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Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.
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Wifi will give a price point that more people can agree with.
I'm anxiously awaiting my Wifi order to ship from Amazon.
Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
Edit: I know he does open source the code, but I'm unsure if the xoom support is in there.
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I just got my xoom for the GPS maps and the turn by turn directions. It works good for that so Im keeping mine!
This is really one of the major downsides of the Internet. It used to be that somebody could have a knee-jerk reaction to something, but by the time it filtered through editors, producers, etc., and into the print and publication media it had already been toned down and made far more realistic.
Nowadays, somebody misunderstands or misquotes something, and five minutes later it's believed as fact by the majority of the population, which has been conditioned to get information in tiny little chunks without any appreciation for context.
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Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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Oh please, the OG Droid got an update the other day didn't it? Our xooms are unlocked and unmodified to such a degree that we will be able to create roms from the 3.0 source code without any issue.
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I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
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I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?
jvward said:
And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy
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Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?
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Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?
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Yep it was, its been a long day and I am tired
jvward said:
I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?
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Whether or not he pushed the code for the xoom is the issue right now.
All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!
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All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!
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This development might put the remaing xooms in high demand. Whatever happens I bet they will sell out FAST!. I am glad I allready have 2 of them in my home!. You know what they say..... a bird in the hand is worth 2 xooms on pre order at Amazon! LOL
i FREAKING LOVE my xoom. I have an ipad that also and I never touch it. Go android!!!
android ftw yo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUwqxHpXMY
i love my xoom too and im pretty content with it. i sold my ipad, two weeks before the announcement of the ipad 2 (robbed the dude on craigslist)
my main concern at this point, and i think its to a certain degree, paranoia, that the pushing up updates, dev community mods and improvements all together will be few and far between.
after typing that i realize thats nonsense, motorola sliced off at least 1-2months of shipping delays by delaying adobe, the sdcard and the 4g...just to be ahead of the pack.
whether that option was smart in the longrun is a question for the finance people. but as a android geek im good with that, just as long as developers (like koush) still have at it.
Thank god Moto priced the Xoom so high that I(and other sane people) got the ipad 2. At least I know that Apple wont just drop their product like that less than 6 months after release.
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I know most of the people here will favor android, but I have also posted this on an apple forum. Im looking for overall opinions.
I am looking at the Xoom wifi, iPad32gb wifi, and Galaxytab 10.1 (new one)
Here is my background and what I am looking for, any insight you may have will be greatly appreciated.
I have an iPod Touch, I have never used android. I have played with xoom and iPad extensively at bestbuy for a couple days.
I am in the military and will be shipping to Ft Gordon for about 7 months this june. I would like to get a tablet that will be easier to use and easier to maintain than a laptop.
Some of the things I am looking for is
Size/weight
speed, (I saw xoom can overclock, very impressive)
Usability
Apps
Facebook
Music
Video Chat with family members at home (Desktop PCs)
Email
Web
Also. The size and weight is important. Which is making me want to wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, as it has the dimensions of an ipad2, but the power of honeycomb.
The only problem with that, is it comes out june 8th, I ship jun 16th. I fear I will not have enough time to get it setup the way I like before I leave.
Anyway, im rambling, If you have any insight on what I should do in my situation. Please post your thoughts.
~Scott
Why do we have so many thread around "is this right for me"? Can I tell you that you should drive BWM and not Lexus because it is right for you? Or you should eat McD and not Carls Jr because it is right for you? Shouldn't you determine what is right for you?
The best way is knowing what you need and go out and test it out. That is why we have retail stores.
I have played with both, and am still undecided. I am looking for someone who has used both more than I have and has a general opinion.
If videochat is one of the requirements then I would recommend going with the Xoom. The 2mp camera and video gchat and other third party apps are much easier to use with Desktops than the facetime clients.
Gee, I wonder which one people on a xoom forum will ask you to get.
Ask on an Apple forum or a Samsung forum and see what answers you get.
This thread is pointless and if you searched even once you would have found 10 or more threads about this.
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Everybody has different situation and circumstances.
I am done with this forum, it has shown nothing but arrogance and annoyance.
Good day.
We'll all miss you, bye!
Is it really too much to ask that new users read the rules and search before creating 'what should I buy' thread #10000
You're not going to learn anything new from posting yet another thread.
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Wow, short fuse
Hello, I've tinkered extensively with both the ipad and Xoom. Here are my thoughts on those categories (btw I'm majory Android biased but I'm going to try and step away from that and be as honest as I can)
Size/weight - Definitely iPad, they make very sleek and weightless products
speed, (I saw xoom can overclock, very impressive) - xoom can overclock and that makes it freaking quick but out of the box, they are both very fast. I will say that Apple has an uncanny ability to make very polished products. But the Xoom is very close if not the same.
Usability - Xoom all the way, I just think you have so many more options and such a variety with widgets. Like I said, I'm an android fan but I am one because I love using it more than apple products (very limited and constrained, I just don't feel like I can do as much on them)
Apps - Apple wins but Android has equality where it counts. One note is that many many Android apps are free where as most of the Apple apps are costly. But Apple does have a lot of apps, and good ones!
Facebook - Same except for playing flash games on the Xoom. Heck, I play Rummikub on my Evo 4g in bed with my wife before we go to sleep. It's not polished and perfect, but I can do it with enjoyment.
Music - iPad has iTunes which works very well, if you prefer that. I love android because I can take my mp3 files from my comp, drag them on to the root of my android, and then listen to those files. Nothing beats that for me, and btw my first mp3 player was an iPod back before they were color and I abhorred having to sync with iTunes just to get music on my mp3 player, and the from there not be able to share that music.
Video Chat with family members at home (Desktop PCs) Google video chat seems easier to use with family members because it works with anyone with a web browser (a PC web browser) but I don't have a lot of experience in this matter so don't weigh an opinion on this.
Email - I love gmail and I feel this would be better on the Xoom
Web - Tabbed browsing, speed, and flash make me really like the Xoom.
Hope it helps
Davy
ON you tube there are a few comparison between ipad 2 and Xoom and ipad 1 on each category from size, screen, and usage.
hmmm let me see what tablet would help you out?
Viagra!
More proof that a military is full of idiots
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More proof that a military is full of idiots
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Wow dude, feeling safe behind a wall of anonimity? Gotta be a reason for that, rejection maybe?
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More proof that a military is full of idiots
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i swear this forum is turning off a lot of folks more because of the attitudes of some members.
its quite obvious the OP is NEW to the forums.
everyone quit *****ing with the same threads complaint. be a mod and do something about it if it bothers, if not, either a) contribute to the thread b) shut the **** up
thanks
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i swear this forum is turning off a lot of folks more because of the attitudes of some members.
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This is what I'm concerned about. Anyone in here being harsh to the OP should be ashamed of their behavior. That sort of behavior is what is going to turn people away from us, and likely Android as well.
Grow the heck up, folks. Legit questions deserve legit answers. New people don't always search first. Big freaking deal.
Be nice to him my ass.
He comes in here asking what device he should get after he played with both for some time. He is and so are the others like him that are so ****ing stupid they can't decide which one they like.
Then for said people to get upset and leave the forum when people tell them to make up your own damn mind. **** em.
It's called PERSONAL preference for a reason. Its personal. He is idiot and the military is the perfect place for him. He gets to follow orders and not think.
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Have you ever risked your life for anyone? I doubt it. Give this guy a break. He is a young man in the military. He should be given the benefit of the doubt.
A lot of those idiots have died for you. Better re think your stupid comment.
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More proof that a military is full of idiots
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I have risked my life for people.
You don't get a free pass for being stupid because you're in the military.
There is nothing to rethink. I have zero intention of continuing this discussion on the forum. If you're inclined to say something do it via pm.
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You guys are retarded
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Thread closed. Any more flaming in other threads will result in infractions and bans.
Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday. I want to see how everybody feels about their Xoom and if I should return it and wait for a newer tablet. I already have a rooted Evo 4g so I don't need the 3g version of the Xoom.
I'd great appreciate some feedback.
Thanks
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Can I ask how much you paid for it? I was in Costco MK yesterday and I didn't see any in there so I got mine from PC World instead.
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I've had my Xoom for a little over a week and think it's the best thing I've ever owned. My iPad doesn't even compare and ended up giving it to my kids. Love the form factor, great screen and Honeycomb rocks. I highly recommend keeping it if you like Android.
On the other hand, the iPad is much more "dummy proof" and much better for someone not very technical.
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Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday. I want to see how everybody feels about their Xoom and if I should return it and wait for a newer tablet.
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I think the question is, what are you planning to use the tablet for? The Xoom still has some features that are a little better than some tablets, and is also missing features compared to some others. Also if cost is a concern, you are almost guaranteed to be better off in 3-6 months since the newer series will be out by then and you'll see discounted clearance prices.
SO, tell us what you think you're going to do, and how comfortable you are in waiting, and I think we can better answer your question.
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Can I ask how much you paid for it? I was in Costco MK yesterday and I didn't see any in there so I got mine from PC World instead.
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She got it for $589. They have a ton in stock here.
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I think the question is, what are you planning to use the tablet for? The Xoom still has some features that are a little better than some tablets, and is also missing features compared to some others. Also if cost is a concern, you are almost guaranteed to be better off in 3-6 months since the newer series will be out by then and you'll see discounted clearance prices.
SO, tell us what you think you're going to do, and how comfortable you are in waiting, and I think we can better answer your question.
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Ill mostly use it for reading and surfing the net. Also ill be doing the usually nerdy stuff by trying out new ROMs and such.
I wasn't considering an iPad, I was more curious about if the performance isn't up to par, and if I should wait for a better honeycomb tablet.
Thanks for the feedback
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She got it for $589. They have a ton in stock here.
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Ah you're American.
I paid £479 for mine that's $791 damned they are expensive here. =/
These questions are so stupid. It's like asking if you would prefer a blue dress or the red one with laces... C'mon dude, there is an argument on both sides on whether or not you should keep the xoom, wait for another tablet or get an ipad. At the end of the day, it depends on your personal preference, your knowledge of computers/ android os and YOU doing research. Everyone's taste is different! I get tired of seeing these types of questions in forums. It's ridiculous.
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These questions are so stupid.
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If you don't like the question dude then don't read it. The subject made it pretty obvious what the question was.
Back to the question: I've had the Xoom since Feb 24 and like it a lot. I use it primarily for web browsing, news reading (RSS), email and FB, and the occasional game. I had an iPad for 8 months and was sick of the iOS limitations so happily gave it up.
The only thing I don't like about the Xoom is the rear facing speakers. When watching a video on the web or doing a video chat, to hear the sound good I either have to really crank the volume up, or cup the speakers to get the sound to come forward.
Thanks for the feedback. I've been playing with it all morning. I'm still trying figure out the best way to type on it though. Browsing isn't as smooth as I would like and it is a little heavier than I would like. My kindle spoiled me there. Everything else seems work pretty well. Email, tapatalk, google reader work well on the tablet.
Still trying to find useful 'tablet' apps though.
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I picked up a wifi Xoom the other day, since I decided it's a keeper it's already rooted and isn't going anywhere. I also have a Viewsonic G Tablet which is nice but doesn't hold a candle to the Xoom. The G Tablet is now for hacking and testing software that I'm developing.
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Thanks for the feedback. I've been playing with it all morning. I'm still trying figure out the best way to type on it though. Browsing isn't as smooth as I would like and it is a little heavier than I would like. My kindle spoiled me there. Everything else seems work pretty well. Email, tapatalk, google reader work well on the tablet.
Still trying to find useful 'tablet' apps though.
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For typing, get the thumb keyboard. Its the best for tablets. They just released the betaversion here on the forums, orjust get it from market
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For typing, get the thumb keyboard. Its the best for tablets. They just released the betaversion here on the forums, orjust get it from market
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Thanks ill take a look. The thumb browsing on the stock browser is kinda cool too
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These questions are so stupid. It's like asking if you would prefer a blue dress or the red one with laces... C'mon dude, there is an argument on both sides on whether or not you should keep the xoom, wait for another tablet or get an ipad. At the end of the day, it depends on your personal preference, your knowledge of computers/ android os and YOU doing research. Everyone's taste is different! I get tired of seeing these types of questions in forums. It's ridiculous.
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Why are you reading it if you find it so stupid?
Right now its not a great deal having a xoom. For me its been kind of a dissapointment the apps support. Not even google have updated theyre own apps! they work but are not for tablet and low awful. The apps from big company names like facebook, twitter,etc havent even bother to upgrade to honeycomb. Maybe in 5 month we will find more than 20 apps for tablet (if you are from other country other than us. you cant install many honeycomb apps), but by that time xoom will be obsolete and there will be xoom 2 or whatever
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Hi guys my wife just got me a Wifi Xoom from Costco for my birthday.
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That was a very thoughtful and special gift. Sounds simple enough to me - Keep it. Enjoy it. Appreciate it.
Most of all - Allow your Wife to feel good about her decision then root it and enjoy things yet to come.
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Right now its not a great deal having a xoom. For me its been kind of a dissapointment the apps support. Not even google have updated theyre own apps! they work but are not for tablet and low awful. The apps from big company names like facebook, twitter,etc havent even bother to upgrade to honeycomb. Maybe in 5 month we will find more than 20 apps for tablet (if you are from other country other than us. you cant install many honeycomb apps), but by that time xoom will be obsolete and there will be xoom 2 or whatever
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You do realize that the Honeycomb/tablet interface 3.0 is a mere 9 weeks old? Apple's IOS for tablets had already been out for roughly 55 weeks and had the the advantage of using existing iphone apps from June of 2007?
I believe Android didn't come around until November of 2009.
It took Apple quite some time to deliver apps and polish the software to where it is today.
It does take time and I would think Google is prepared to put up a hell of a fight.
interesting discussion guys, I am about to decide whether to buy xoom or ipad 32GB wifi.
Simple user, prefer a stable and trouble free tablet for daily use. Occasional movie,email, light gaming and some ebook reading. Wont be experimenting much. Almost decided on xoom, any last moment advise?
I love my Xoom. My only concern is the lack of apps. I think 6 months from now it won't be an issue.
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The XOOM is waiting for one or more important software updates. The XOOM was the first HC tablet and has been out the longest. I have also yet to see these other tablets advertised (as) much. Which one will get the most app / accessory support? My bet is on the XOOM regardless of which tablet ends up being technically superior later in the year. When things don't end up working as well other tablets (even though they perhaps should) as the XOOM, I'll be mostly unaffected.
The LG G-Slate has a smaller screen and lacks a SD Card Slot. The newer Samsung Galaxy Tab lacks a built-in HDMI port. The HTC Flyer may have their Sense UI Skin on it, I personally dislike manufacturer skins. The ASUS Transformer's build quality is not as good IMO but it can be had cheaper and supports mouse usage with optional dock. The Toshiba Tablet will have a full SD Card size card slot. Rea search the differences, decide what is important to you.
For a long time I didn't see a reason for me to purchase a tablet. The only use I can think of right now is for me to have more access to my files on a bigger screen via dropbox.
That said, I still reaaaaally want a Xoom, but it's not a good enough reason for me to drop $800+ (Xoom+accessories) since my phone can do the same thing, except on a smaller screen.
Yes, there is the multimedia portion; videos and whatnot but again, what else are tablets used for? I'm not an artist either so the drawing/sketching capabilities do not apply to me.
So hence my question, what do you guys use your tablets for?
Also, do phone applications work on tablets or do tablets have their own set of applications? How is the resolution of the apps if tablets can use the same apps that phones use?
Cheers!
I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
It seems like you have your mind made up. I use mines for:
Browsing
YouTube
Gaming
Emulators
Remote Desktop
Texting
Video Editing
Reference
School
Emailing
And a whole bunch of other things. I traded my iPad 2 for it and don't regret it one bit. More appps are coming to Android and are tablet friendly. You can run phone apps also. I haven't even rooted mines yet and if I did the list would be even bigger.
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I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
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I use mine for several things, but the major thing for which my phone would be completely inadequate is that I teach Bible class on Sunday mornings from my tablet. My tablet is wifi only so I cannot speak for those who can haul theirs with them all the time and get 3g on it.
Generally speaking, Android phone apps will work on an Android tablet. Some apps need to be updated for newer versions of Android, especially Honeycomb, and will force close. Some phone apps will not expand to fill the screen but will only take up a small portion of it. Some apps will fill the screen automatically and the resolution looks fine. Some apps will fill the screen but they look odd. It is a trial and error "test it and see" matter. There are also apps that have be designed or redesigned just for tablets. Most tablet apps will say "for Honeycomb" or "HD" (High Definition) or "for tablets" in their names, but this is not always the case. The Market does have a special section of featured tablet apps and you can find many more by searching on "Honeycomb" or "Tablet."
If you don't want to pay for a Xoom, look into the Iconia A500 like I did. It's very similar, but only costs $450
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I actually think browsing the net is the best thing it does. Quick controls and thumb keyboard make it very fast. Use something like pulse and it's a media consumers dream.
I got my 3G Verizon Xoom on eBay for $490 shipped... I wouldn't pay regular price either.
At the end of the day... it IS just a toy, but it is definitely closer to a laptop than the iPad 2 is, I goto the iPad 2 for my wife & she loves it.
Xoom is much more versatile than the iPad 2.
At the end of the day it still seems like it's just an expensive toy as of now...
But I may pick one up tomorrow just to play with it to see if I like it just because I'm kind of a gadget whore. Hahaha
Question, does LauncherPro(Plus) work on tablets or no? Or is there a tablet version of it? I saw some "hands-on" videos on youtube and there seems to be a bit of lag when transitioning between homescreens. Hmmm!
Well I have a post about this. It is not exhaustive but it covers a lot with photos and elaborations.
I am not a random id that do some own ads here but if xda allows html, I will post my original write-up here without hestitation. =)
Here it is
What do you do with your 10.1 tablet toy??
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
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Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?
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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.
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Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?
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Ha! Haggling a price at a big-box store? Are you from Europe!
Just kidding, but the answer is a flat "no chance." Nobody at those stores have the authority to change pricing.
A word of advice to you: I'd wait for the second generation devices. The Xoom is a solid early-adopter device, but now that you've managed to avoid it for this long I'd put it off for a few more months while the second-gen devices come out. Cheaper, lighter, and (hopefully) will be supported for longer by google/manufacturer. Then again, if you spent $3k on a laptop (I hope it has a money printer and a grappling hook for that price!) then I'm guessing that you're not too worried about the few hundred dollars it would cost to trade up when you want to.
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I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.
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+1
Yeah lots of new ones are coming out soon I believe. Guess I can wait.. it is afterall, just a toy
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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Tablets are a lot easier to carry around. It's easier to hold while standing up, laying in bed, and kicking back on a couch/recliner/lawn chair. I'm tired of being hunched over a keyboard and mouse. I can rest my head and browse. If I need to do something that my Xoom can't. I can RDP into my PC, or walk to my PC and do what I need to do. Also battery life on my Xoom is just awesome.
I feel tablets are like the consoles vs PC war. Sure PC is superior to consoles in many ways, but in my opinion, it can't beat picking up the controller and relaxing on the recliner playing a game. Same sense, I can just pick my tablet up and browse.
I have no laptop nor netbook. So I bought the Xoom.
Yes it is a toy, but using it while lazing on the bed/couch is so comfortable.
Web browsing comes first to mind. Though it won't be as full featured as using the desktop but normal web surfing works very well and using your fingers instead of a mouse to navigate websites makes so much sense.
Next would be ebook reading. Seriously, if you read your books and you have no ebook reader then using your tablet as a book is a must. It has pretty much replaced my normal paperback reading. And best thing is it's pretty easy to just sideload tons of free ebooks into the Xoom for your viewing pleasure anytime.
And finally gaming. Just to pass the time. I pretty much stopped gaming on my nexus one because well, playing games on a 10.1" screen is just so much better.
Just buy the xoom at a Costco/sams club for you can return it after two months.
I plan on doing that so if new generation devices come out then I will just swap it out.
Right now i dont see the need for a tablet, although im envious of the people that do have them. But i just dont see the need for it at the moment, i just recently got a brand spankin new huge 25" all-in-one pc for less then that of the Xoom. As of now the Xoom isn't for me but i have my sights set on the Galaxy 10.1
Lol.. debating with a friend on fb. Hoping someone can give me a good rebuttal i can paste in there from a dev standpoint and hand him his lunch...lol Couldn't copy the txt, so I took screen shots.
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Not sure why it didn't post, but this should have been the first pic...
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Not sure if this will work if your not a fb friend, but you could probably just go on there and post a comment....
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Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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The best thing for you to do is not argue with people who are overly indulged in their opinions. Whatever info you get, they'll counter it with some misc. B.S. It's better to just reply nicely with a smile .
Haters hate on smileys
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marcusant said:
Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah, one of his posts he said he used one, and that it was just "fragmented garbage"
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But Masaidjet is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But M is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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A friend of mines yesterday said BB's are better than Android phones new & old..... long story short he's no longer my friend.
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Pathetic iphone fan boy... you can't argue with those types. Just have pride YOU know what OS is better. =] as well as what phone is better... Its really pointless trying to talk a fanboy into thinking he's wrong...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Ugh stop before I go on a fanboy onslaught.... this **** pisses me off. Dafuq he means better CPU/GPU let's see that pathetic iP5 compete with the gs3... idiot you don't gain **** jailbreaking... you get what cydia??? That's it.... =]
/endofrant
*composure*
Stop arguing with him... he is blinded and will never recover from the tragedy of iOS.
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Lol...good times! He did lol about how he enjoys these talks, because the android fans and isheep will fight to the bitter end about this stuff. Im no dev, so i cant get into it too deep with him
Frustrating and entertaining at the same time!
Edit: maybe I should just link him to this thread...
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Wish I could post something like this as a response in the fb thread...lol
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Jst remind him that steve jobs died.. that would make him cry and curse android as he crawls back under his rock
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"Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
^ THAT!
Why did you post this? All it did was piss me off.
1. Samsung made the iPad3s "revolutionary" display. They even project to buy billions in parts from Samsung this year.
2. My friend has an iPhone 4S. And the retina display DOES NOT look better. It's far more washed out and far less saturated. You can not even compare the colors even at stock values.
3. The hardware IS pushing limits. The iPhone 4S' 800MHZ dual-core processor is outdated. And comparing it to the Atrix, which came out March of 2011, it is. Does Joe not know that the One X just came out with a ****ing 1.5GHZ quad-core processor? The screen sizes are much larger, have higher resolutions, deeper colors, curved displays, and lets not forget Gorilla glass. How are they going to release the iPad 3 with a dual-core processor and still charge that price?
4. How is Joe going to talk about the quality of the iPhone? That's absolute babel. Anyone in their right mind would know making a cell phone out of glass and an easily shatterable display makes paying $399.99 for anything not worth while. You drop that four hundred dollar POS? IT'S BROKEN! The back will shatter! The screen will crack! What the hell is innovative about that?! "All manufactures are trying to do is catch up to the quality and hardware" ***** please. Android abandoned that disgusting look and feel loooong ago. We ***** slapped you with no buttons, we ***** slapped you with better hardware, and we utterly raped you with what Android can do compared to primitive operating system. Ubuntu for Android is the perfect example.
5. He misused fragmentation and clearly put invocation where innovation should go. His grammar and punctuation is awful in some spots, and his use of words he doesn't really understand is consistent. And please bro, don't ever jump on us about bashing you for stealing functionality. Apple invented that. Apple invented and maintains backstabbing tactics, and has successfully set back technology years. Please, read this. Because it would take me too much time to explain why Apple is the devil and why Steve Jobs deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.
6. **** jailbreaking! How DARE he compare that to rooting?! How DARE he think that could be anything like it in any way? Android out of the box can install 3rd-party applications. And that seems to be the only thing he could say about that! Android being open-source should be enough to shut him up about that, but because he is clearly so stupid and doesn't know any technological terms outside of the tech blog he must read, he is oblivious the the capabilities of Android. This guy must think Steve Jobs was truly Jesus.
People like this are the blight of the world. The only thing I hate more than Apple are the people using their products. Especially the ones who know nothing about anything technological. Android is the best mobile operating system hands down. Not because it's disgustingly simple and "easy to use", but because it's capable of doing far more than iOS could ever hope to do. Android being open-source allows it to do ANYTHING. Any feature in existence and every feature to be invented can be and will be brought the the Android platform. "From a developers standpoint, there is no comparison in my eyes." Anyone who knows anything about actual development has dumped iOS. Because whether you know it or not, Android has taken over the mobile platform. People have left iOS for cheaper, more durable, more powerful, and all around better platform. So if you want to delude yourself into thinking that iOS and Android are still comparable. go ahead, but you're only kidding yourself.
That....is epic!!! Love it! Sorry for stirring the pot today, but did get some lulz! You guys rock! Good stuff.
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And further to Darkie's rant; my buddy jailbroke 2 iPhones (4 and 4S) and both of them bricked. Had to pay Apple iGeeks a fortune to reload lousy OS. I can bring my phone back to Sprint and they don't give a flying rat's ass if its rooted or not.
Well, I hate to anger you guys further, but just got to my computer checking mail, FB, etc. And seen he commented again. I haven't been home for a while, so I have been yet to paste any of your responses there.
This is a long one too, but now I can cut and paste it.....
"It's always the same arguments. Citing 20 different phones, 100 different features, who has what first, etc.... It's the same on both sides of the argument. It all boils down to preference... Both sides will fight tooth and nail to make their points heard. But nobody can deny the fact that no matter what Android OS you're on, or what phone ( HTC, Samsung, Google, Motorola, etc ) they are never compared to each other or previous models, they are all compared to the iPhone. Since that is true, you gotta ask yourself, if Android is so much better regardless of manufacturer, then why? It's not apple or "iSheep" making these comparisons. It's rating companies, magazines, and media making these comparisons. The iDevices do, and always will stand alone. And every new phone will be compared to it. I don't think less of Android users... There is an argument to be made about anything. My personal preference is the iPhone ( being someone who as had and used both OSs and Android on several different platforms ). A lot of argument comes from people, and developers, who have never even owned an iPhone. Maybe just played with one in a store or tooled around on a friends. As iPhone users/developers/jailbreakers, we all agree that Apples restrictions to content is for the most part bull****. So to argue that one is better than the other from a downloadable content standpoint is valid. But I prefer the solid foundation that the iPhone provides. I think the OS is better implemented and that the hardware is superior to any competitor. Since I am able to jailbreak my device, I can install any software I choose, and again in my opinion is better than any content available in the Android Marketplace or on the stock Android OS. The rest is pure marketing. Are there pros and cons? Depends on what you need your device for. The simple fact is, Apples iOS is designed specifically for the iPhone. There are not 50 platforms. Android is open source so any manufacturer can add whatever feature sets they want to the OS. I think that's the biggest downfall, but that's how these companies sell their devices and try to set themselves apart from other manufactures. Android/Google don't care what features they add or what hardware manufactures install the OS on. The manufacturers pay to use the OS. Same with windows phones/computers. There is no quality control other than applications and software extensions have to meet minimum requirements to get licensing. All these manufactures have is themselves to compete with and usually offer up 1 "premium" model thats build to retail markup is ridiculous because for the most part, they use the cheapest commercially available hardware that meets spec sheet, not actual, performance standards. They put it all together in pretty cases with impressive looking feature sets then install a OS that was not designed to work on that particular hardware setup. Then they box it and ship it. That's why the UI is fragmented, but it's got a lot of appealing features that people gotta have. They tend to ignore the performance issues because they got all these bells and whistles on a 4 inch screen. Some features are useful innovations, but they come from developers outside of Google. Google buys software and implements it. Apple is not so open to outside development, but like Android, most of the innovative features were inspired from the developers in the jailbreak community and rewritten by Apple to work with the hardware. The point is, everything Apple is designed and implemented internally and each component is built by vendors to exacting specs. Much more quality control which produces a much more solid device. They have control over everything right down to the batteries and it is all designed with performance and durability in mind, they don't cut corners. The build to retail margins are much different... That's why they are more expensive and carriers are taking a hit selling them at contract prices even tho those prices are 2-4 times greater than Android based phones."
"Never argue with stupid people. They will bring you down to their level, and defeat you with their experience." -Mark Twain
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