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Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands
that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about
he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays
Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.
i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.
Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.
If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.
Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.
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that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.
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I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
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But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked
I know it's not a real 4g but t-mobile uses HSPA+ 21Mbps and sell it as a 4g.
And all I know is gsm version of sgs2 comes with HSPA+ 21Mbps.
So probably verizion version would be 3g but t-mobile version would be 4g out of the box? Just out of curiosity.
Frankly no one knows, just guessing and speculation now
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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Until someone has the production ready device in hand and can examine the hardware, or Samsung/VZW release the product specs, there is nothing definite. Even if one could get ahold of pre-release software/firmware, there would be nothing that confirm nothing, just show you want pre-production models are using. So, if you want to continue speculation, the SGS2 will show up and make you 3 square meals a day, clean your house, teleport you to work, and shoot out rainbows and unicorns when you're feeling blue. Until actual device specs come out, it's anyone's guess as to what the SGS2 will be like on VZW.
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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kpark67 said:
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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VZW wouldn't be releasing the same device as T-Mobile anyways, because of GSM vs. CDMA. So who's to say that VZW wouldn't put in an LTE radio in their version now? The 10.1 Tab will be LTE on VZW in July and has the same slim form factor. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the SGS II
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec. So I just guess that would happen again for sgs2. Also samsung can put lte modem for function(verizon). But news release in Korea indicate samsung release first lte version of sgs2 for Korean market on september. Even if samsung could make lte version of sgs2 before september then what about the droid charge? if verizon release function with lte within a few months it's gonna go over $350 with 2 yr contract cause charge is $300.
Anyway it's gonna be very interesting.
I would think if anything, the Charge would drop in price and the SGS II would take it's place, price-wise
Yep. That would make sense.
l just hope it would stay within price range I can afford.
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kpark67 said:
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
Google Samsung Function. There is a speculated spec sheet right on top. Also includes pics.
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landshark68 said:
ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
The Fascinate also came out nearly 2 months after T-Mobile's Vibrant. Long story short, what other carriers do or don't do is completely irrelevant to us.
As long as I remember all 4 variants of galaxy s fo US market have 512mb ram. What I remember is system info (quadrant) on captivate shows around 340mb something which is almost same as fascinate.
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Falcyn said:
There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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With the latest roms available I would easily be satisfied with the fascinate for another two years if only it had a little more ram. Ram is really my only complaint at all with this phone.
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At first I was thinking 3G since they couldn't fit an LTE radio. But they managed to squeeze one in the 8.6mm GTab 10.1, so maybe they can here too. Even if they have to make it 8.6mm thin, I won't care, it'll be an awesome device. Unless Verizon Bings this one.
It would be nice, but it would call for some heavy duty changes by Samsung engineering wise. Have you noticed the sheer size of the lte phones? The whole lte system doesn't have the whole system on a chip it and it requires two separate radios, which is why it allows talk and surfing. This would make the galaxy s2 pretty huge unless Samsung has created an lte system on a chip for this phone.
According to the leaked rumored spec sheet, 4G will be included. Here is the link below.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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why couldn't samsung make the galaxy note a pentaband just like the Galaxy Nexus? man i'm mad i think they do that on purpose to sell more phones.i just saw the galxy nexus review on engadget. i'm confuse to which one to get, i'm on t-mobile don't want to go to at&t for the note and i love the note more than the nexus. man they're foever playing with us and our money, they never want to give you what you want in one device
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
Their initial focus for the Note is obviously not the US, T-Mobile is not the biggest carrier in the US, and T-Mobile uses the AWS frequency range, which almost no one in the world uses. (Does anyone else use 1700/2100?) As much as I would love it if it were Pentaband, I'm not at all surprised that it isn't.
As to the Nexus, it is the ICS flagship, and so Google/Samsung will want it released in as many places as possible, so including AWS makes more sense. The Note, in comparison, might end up being a niche product, so there is probably less pressure to rush it to minor segments.
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You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
industry’s first fully integrated LTE world mode/multimode
modem"
man you are so right about this part.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.[/QUOTE]
i never even realize this until now, man we're screwed bigtime in u.s
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The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
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That would be nice! I hope Samsung's Exynos follows suit or they start using the S4.
mircury said:
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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I am happy with Hsdpa+. It's fast enough.
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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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walliester said:
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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That's true but Tmobile is supposed to get a non LTE version and it will be much cheaper than the international version if you buy it on contract.
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
eksasol said:
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also international version is pentaband so you can switch between TMO and ATT. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
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I do have lte in my city, but not sure if it really matters to me. There is free wifi almost everywhere these days, and I am guessing lte coverage is going to be pretty spotty since it is so new.
I guess since I upgrade my phone once a year, I would be fine without lte for another 6-12 months.
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International.
Philly doesn't have LTE yet, but probably soon.
I like having the physical button on front to wake the phone, us versions usually don't have that.
Less bloat.
To make up the price difference I'll probably get the iphone 5 on contract when it comes out later this year and sell it on ebay.
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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I have pre ordered mine already as I have T-Mobile wthout LTE... I will however switch my order from blue to white as soon as its an option.
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eksasol said:
I need to correct myself, there is an update in spec, and it won't suport T-Mo 3G. gsmarena
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To each their own.
I am on AT&T and we are about to get LTE but I really don't care. I am a WiFi consumer 99.99999% of the time so I would rather have this phone with the hopes I will get updates to JB in the fall quicker and that the ROMS will come faster.
International.
I live in Northern part of LA, we have 4G LTE with ATT. But I always have wifi available where ever I go, even work. I'd rather have a better processor, ROM support, faster updates than 4G LTE that I'll honestly hardly ever use. I guess I'm fine with ATT FAKE 4G.
djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I already decided to skip LTE with the N7000. I don;t use enough carrier data to need it. I prefer the MediaNet $10 UL data. I barely use 1GB a month. Enough to have to pay $30 but not enough to get "value" for that money. I use WiFi almost 100% of the time. 3G+ can stream video without issues. I am ok with that.
LTE is probably great for those who have or don't want to pay for Home Intermet Service and tethers. I have no use for it at this time.
Tough to go back to carrier branded after having the more widely spread international versions.
I may get rid of my at&t Note, and use whatever funds I receive from that to get 1 of these intl versions.
Or, I might just get an intl Note instead...if the screen size and s-pen really is a good reason for why I want to stay Note.
Will the international version work with Tmobile? pros and cons?
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
Zabalba said:
Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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amazon, expansys, gummobile, handtech, negri, there are a lot of stores that ship to the u.s.
Newegg might sell it too...
Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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negri and onthegosolutions might send it out on release date. amazon is def not one of the sites that gets the phones on release day.
Does anyone have any information on release dates in the US?
I'm also curious if anyone has heard any rumors of price with contract.
I'm on sprint
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At the London event they said June for USA release, this didn't say what year tho. LOL
I would guess they will ask $299 with contract, will not ever get a US carrier branded phone again, go INTL it's worth every penny.
But that's just me.
itl sgs3's wont work on sprint. we're stuck with whatever butchered version of the phone sprint gives us
ps: will stick with sprint for their prices. unlim txt/data/cell-to-cell for $65/mo... not bad
As far as I've read , I think only people that use at&t can use the international version of the sgs3. Doesn't have the right bands for T-Mobile hspa+. So that means ill have to buy the carrier branded sgs3. Its cool though , I have an upgrade waiting just for it, and I'm going to keep my galaxy nexus (I love my nexus (- best of both worlds!
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I have to buy carrier branded phones as well because Verizon is really my only option as a carrier. So I probably have to wait till the end of this year/next year to get an LTE phone with a quad core. Too bad, I really wanted to give samsung my money for this phone.
snobrdr2324 said:
I have to buy carrier branded phones as well because Verizon is really my only option as a carrier. So I probably have to wait till the end of this year/next year to get an LTE phone with a quad core. Too bad, I really wanted to give samsung my money for this phone.
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They can has all of my moneyz.
Im on att and have the note,but i think im going to get this beauty of a phone,just hope the lte will work with international version
ssfirme said:
Im on att and have the note,but i think im going to get this beauty of a phone,just hope the lte will work with international version
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Thats a negative......No LTE on international version for us here in the states.
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Thats a negative......No LTE on international version for us here in the states.
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So u mean att lte wont work with the inter version?
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So u mean att lte wont work with the inter version?
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Correct.
bbgt2 said:
At the London event they said June for USA release...
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Actually, from what I remember they said Summer release, and details would be provided in June. Some rumours are pegging July 1st as the NA launch date, though.